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The RIAA's costly legal campaign is dealt another setback

The Jammie Thomas case was a landmark event for the Record Industry Association of America (RIAA) and their pricey legal war against file sharing, marking their first trial to go before a jury for a verdict.  The RIAA secured a record $220,000 verdict from the jury, with some jury members calling on single mom Jammie Thomas to pay over three million dollars for two dozen named tracks allegedly infringed.

However, the RIAA's joy was killed when a judge tossed the verdict and called for a retrial.  U.S. District Judge Michael Davis who originally presided over the case said he misled jurors when it told them that simply sharing the file to others (making available) is tantamount to infringement.  A new trial was scheduled for March.

The RIAA appealed the decision to toss the verdict and yesterday was dealt another setback when it lost its appeal.  The case will indeed be going back to court for a retrial.

The case is being scrutinized as it marks the first time that the RIAA has actually officially charged someone with copyright infringement in court as it has threatened to do to 26,000 other people it has settled with over the course of its campaign.  While the others had settled for a few thousand dollars, Ms. Thomas refused, maintaining her innocence and denying that she used peer-to-peer service, Kazaa to share files.

While the case is significant, it has lost some of its luster due to the RIAA's recent decision to shift its focus from its lawsuit campaign.  While new lawsuits may be continuing, the RIAA has pledged to make its focusing getting internet service providers to adopt "three strikes" provisions like France has.

Under the RIAA's plan those found with a connection that's downloading or sharing songs will be warned by mail.  If the activity persists after another warning, the people's internet will be cut off.  The RIAA has not disclosed how it plans to monitor activity, setting off red flags for consumer advocates.

The key question in the Thomas case pertinent to the ISP plans as well is how to legally prove someone has violated the copyright law.  According to Judge Davis the burden is on the RIAA's shoulders to prove that the songs shared were actually downloaded by someone; "making available" does not equate to infringement.  The RIAA says proving such a transfer occurred is virtually impossible, so in the past it has primarily relied on the "making available" argument in its other legal cases.

Some believe that the Thomas case is destined to be appealed after the verdict, regardless of what it is and will travel up the federal appellate courts to the Supreme Court.  Already a landmark case, some analysts believe that the case will be brought before the supreme court to resolve whether making available equates to copyright infringement, something many judges have argued is legally flawed.



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Bullets in my Gun
By bobcpg on 12/30/2008 10:44:43 AM , Rating: 5
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The RIAA says proving such a transfer occurred is virtually impossible, so in the past it has primarily relied on the "making available" argument in its other legal cases.


The bullets in my gun, does that mean murder is available to me...I better hide.




RE: Bullets in my Gun
By PhoenixKnight on 12/30/2008 11:13:08 AM , Rating: 5
You evil [almost] murderer! You should be put in jail for that.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By eye smite on 12/30/2008 1:30:53 PM , Rating: 5
Or put on trial for conspiracy to share murder. lol


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By ThePooBurner on 12/30/2008 11:28:56 AM , Rating: 5
See, this is exactly why we need precrime! Burdens of proof are burndensome!

What's sad is that that is probably very close to how the RIAA actually feels. They have already stated on numourous occations that they (essencially) don't care if a person is guilty or not. They(riaa) think they(people) are and that is all that matters. Judge, Jury, and Executioner all in one. They ought to be dismembered by the teachers union for gross misconduct.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By murphyslabrat on 12/30/2008 12:33:57 PM , Rating: 3
When a word is underlined in red, that doesn't mean it's a power-word.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By BZDTemp on 12/30/2008 3:13:21 PM , Rating: 2
ROFL


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By theapparition on 12/30/2008 11:44:24 AM , Rating: 2
". . .you're under arrest for the future
murder of Mrs. Marks and Mr. Dubin. . ."

Then Tom Cruise flys out of your house.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By Thalyn on 12/30/2008 10:14:01 PM , Rating: 4
Yeah... but I doubt they'd send Tom over to your place to call out, "You are under arrest for the future sharing of Rihanna's next single!"

Then again, maybe he's the only one who could actually say that line with a straight face.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By Screwballl on 12/30/2008 11:47:09 AM , Rating: 3
We all own a butter knife so therefore it is "made available" to commit murder.
Most of us own a vehicle of some sort so it is "made available" to commit vehicular manslaughter.
Most of us own a computer with internet access so it is "made available" to commit a crime of any type.

Come on, there is no way this should even be allowed to be used as an argument of any type, in any case. This is the same dumb line of reasoning Aristodemocrats have tried using to get guns outlawed in the US.

I say we shut down RIAA, MPAA or at least remove their ability to collect money of any kind for any media of any type, and also block their ability to institute a lawsuit of any kind as they do not officially "own" any IP/copyrights. The record label or artist does.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By StoveMeister on 12/30/2008 2:13:45 PM , Rating: 3
Even worse is that all us men in the world can be now locked up as we have the equipment "made available" to be rapists.
I agree- lock up the RIAA. How can they sue to protect something they don't own?


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By Solandri on 12/30/2008 2:37:39 PM , Rating: 3
I'm as anti-RIAA as the next guy, but that's not really a fair characterization. The predominant use of a butter knife is to spread butter. The predominant use of a vehicle is to travel. OTOH, the predominant use of Kazaa is (was?) probably to illegally share files.

This falls more along the lines of lockpicks. Their predominant use is probably criminal, but they do have significant legitimate uses. For this reason they aren't outright banned, but many states heavily regulate their purchase and use. (This is for Kazaa in particular. As a linux-nut, I'd say the predominant use of bittorrent is probably piracy, but it has so much other legitimate use that regulating it would be counterproductive.)

Remember, the way we win this battle is not by using biased arguments against the RIAA's tactics. If you do that, the public may view our arguments to be just as biased as the RIAA's. The way to win is to present a reasonable argument. Then the public can see that we seem to be thinking rationally, while the RIAA seems to be twisting logic to the fullest extent possible to try to legitimize their position.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By 9nails on 12/31/2008 10:50:40 AM , Rating: 2
I get where you're coming from, and indeed file sharing can be likened to many other activities which have a legitimate use but are often illicit in action. How many of us really roll our own tobacco when we buy smoking paper?

I think we should be careful not to use the term "illegal" with the use of downloading a copyright file. I would suggest that the term be "unlicensed", as it still is legal to download the file and carries a lesser, but more correct identification of how the file is to be used.

Being profit driven, its easier and technically more obtainable for the RIAA/MPAA to identify the person hosting the files and mark them as a target for infringement than it is to find the individual's who download parts of the files assembled as a whole. So, now under this ruling, the RIAA needs to argue and prove how the files were used after download rather than the fact that the file was made available. The person receiving the file is technically the "criminal" in any case, if that copyright work was not licensed. So I'm not so certain that they have a case in this situation any longer.

I wonder if anyone previously sued has recourse for action?


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By fotoguy on 1/4/2009 12:16:07 PM , Rating: 2
Not only is it an unlicensed download, but the person posting it in an unauthorized distributor.

In the case of file sharing, the person downloading made a conscious decision to download the file and the poster made a conscious decision to share it. Both acts break copyright law.

RIAA/MPAA does not have to prove how the IP was/is/will be used. An illegal copy has been consciously made.

It's not like some stranger on the street walked up to you and handed you a copy a movie or album. In that case, if you just toss it in the trash, you have not broken any laws. You did not ask for it, and you did not use (Hopefully you recycled properly ;). The person handing it to you is breaking the law.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By FITCamaro on 12/30/2008 4:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
You need a butter knife?

*wipes off his rock*


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By gstrickler on 12/30/2008 3:16:15 PM , Rating: 4
Funny, good use of hyperbole. I would have rated you up, but your comment was already a 5.

For a closer analogy, try this: I sometimes leave music CDs that I've purchased sitting on my desk even when I'm not at the office. One purpose of having information on my desk is for sharing or distributing that information to others in the office, but not everything on my desk is intended to be shared. I know there are dozens of CD-ROM drives that could be used to rip those to WAV/MP3 files and there are several CD burners in other machines in the office that someone could use to make a copy.

Does that mean I've made those CDs available for piracy by/distribution to my co-workers? What about the cleaning crew? What about the building managers and owners?

Is everyone who visits my desk (or my office) when those CDs are "available" subject to being sued by the RIAA? Not only were those CDs "available", some people actually visited the desk where those CDs were stored.

What about the software CDs on my desk or bookshelf?

Does the same apply to the books on my bookshelf? We have many photo-copiers in the office.

Other than the size of the population who can access my desk, how are these situations different than someone running a peer-to-peer file sharing setup (with or without any copyrighted information on it)? Unless you can prove that someone actually copied the information AND you didn't take reasonable precautions to prevent that copying, you have committed no crime.

The RIAA's tactics and "legal strategies" in this have been so outrageous and abusive that the RIAA should be forced to pay compensation to everyone they sued or threatened to sue, the RIAA should be disbanded, and their lawyers should be censured/sanctioned/disbarred for filing such abusive and absurd claims.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By codeThug on 12/30/2008 8:22:00 PM , Rating: 1
give him a "6" and get it over with.


RE: Bullets in my Gun
By mherlund on 12/31/2008 5:46:58 PM , Rating: 2
Just remember, this is the land where you can get a DWI by being in your car with the keys in your pocket.

Drunk: "I know I'm drunk officer, that is why I am just sitting in my car to stay warm"
Officer: "But your keys are in your pocket, DWI is available to you, your going to jail."


I predict...
By AntiM on 12/30/2008 11:18:59 AM , Rating: 2
The "making available is infringement" argument will make it to the Supreme Court and the Court will rule that merely making available is indeed infringement. The music industry has too much clout and too many friends in high places for it not to happen that way.




RE: I predict...
By Smilin on 12/30/2008 11:25:54 AM , Rating: 5
The Supreme Court generally gives two sh1ts about clout and friends in high places. I've never seen them be biased beyond their own personal beliefs in the constitution.

I would SERIOUSLY doubt they would find "making available" as infringement. Your public library rents books right next to a photocopier and you don't see them getting sued.

How this could be made into a constitutional argument will determine if the Supreme Court ever hears it.

The RIAA is way overdue for a serious ass whooping. It's just going to take someone (like that Harvard law professor) standing up to them. Everyone so far has just caved becuase they are little.


RE: I predict...
By Kibbles on 12/30/2008 1:16:56 PM , Rating: 5
I'm kind of curious. My local library lends out videos and music. Does that mean they are making available?


RE: I predict...
By Bateluer on 12/30/2008 1:49:48 PM , Rating: 2
By the definition, yep. Good time to be a lawyer.


RE: I predict...
By Smilin on 12/30/2008 2:26:26 PM , Rating: 1
Do they lend by giving you a single copy of the media which they loose posession of until you return it?

Or

Are they lending you by making you a copy of the media to take home then lending out an additional copy while yours is out.

No, they aren't "making available". Don't be so obtuse.


RE: I predict...
By geddarkstorm on 12/30/2008 4:14:43 PM , Rating: 2
Except, you could make a copy of the media they gave you once you get it home. The fact the library gave you the media makes it available for you to copy and file share ;). So you could say libraries are "making available" media for copyright infringement by this strictest sense the RIAA wants to use. A scary thought.


RE: I predict...
By Chemical Chris on 12/30/2008 3:50:30 PM , Rating: 3
The library pays a special price for their material because they will lend it out, so they are covered in that regard. However, having a photocopier could be considered illegal according to the logic of the RIAA. Officially, a photocopier is only for material which *you* have created and for which *you* own the copyright; using it to copy and copyrighted work is illegal.
Of course, my University library has a copy shop room, where every day thousands (or at least hundreds) of students go to copy material from those copyrighted works. This is illegal, and the school could be held responsible for the infringement.
Of course, this will never happen, as any judge would quickly dismiss the case, and it could lead to the law getting rewritten. The law is written to encompass any possible infringement; it needs to be 'over built' so that real criminals cant get away with it. But, legitimate use will sometimes be made illegal, except no one cares because they understand its ok, and to press the issue would only end up hurting them.
Unfortunately, the RIAA/MPAA MAFIAA have been abusing this system for most of the last decade. Hopefully, they will finally be stopped by the courage of Ms. Thomas. She is a real American Hero (really just a Hero who happens to be American).
While they (artists, etc) deserve to be compensated for their work, their current methodology is unacceptable. Yes, millions of people will enjoy your work for free, but if they really love it, they will buy it. Profit will still be made if you change with the times and GIVE people what they want rather than TELLING them what they want. 'nuff said.

ChemC


RE: I predict...
By joex444 on 12/30/2008 5:26:24 PM , Rating: 3
I happened to have worked in a library for a while, and I can tell you that the copying of materials by University students is protected under fair use acts. This is why your University library is not getting sued by every publisher on the face of the planet.

Students can make photocopies or have photocopies made of articles from a journal (but not the entire journal), a small part of a book (but not the whole book) for personal study, research, or scholarship.

The only time that student photocopies become illegal is when they have more than 1 copy of the same work, the entire work, or if they are attempting to profit from the work.

Faculty have similar guidelines, the exception is that if they wish to distribute the material to a class it should come from something which they have purchased.

Of course, in today's world, an article from a journal is always found online so this is not really an issue. You can simply print your own copy and not have to go through a copy room or even the stacks to physically find a journal.


Wow...
By Joz on 12/30/2008 10:47:24 AM , Rating: 2
Firstly, I want to say, that jury is...(NOT NICE WORDS.) And secondly, the RIAA is now what? A Secret Soviet Police Service now? The SSPS!!!!Ssssssspsss!(ice!) But realy, I don't exactly follow the RIAA stuff that much so I had to go do a bit of research on the Thomas trial. It seems to me, that the goverment needs to put its foot down on the RIAA (and the other orginization suing people left and right,) its just a travesty, they are going after people who litterly can't afford to defend themselves. If this does happen like the anaylists expect, and it gets dragged before court after court after court, the defendands won't have anything left, (which I belive is what the RIAA is going for.)
So, can we all just have a vote in this democracy (bulls) of ours and outlaw the RIAA, and other court-happy-to-sue orginizations?




RE: Wow...
By codeThug on 12/30/2008 8:31:54 PM , Rating: 2
Now I get it. The case/jury was shopped in Minnesota. Have you ever spent any time there?

Talk about no humor rule freaks...

Don't get me wrong, the friends/family I have there are priceless, but no way could I live there.


RE: Wow...
By Joz on 12/30/2008 9:35:11 PM , Rating: 2
Im in Mendota Heights (minnesota, near St. Paul.)

I think I have plenty of humor.
It just goes away when winter comes along.


RE: Wow...
By codeThug on 12/30/2008 11:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
brother lives in Little Canada. I understand.


RE: Wow...
By Yawgm0th on 12/31/2008 5:58:40 PM , Rating: 2
We just may have barely elected a former comedian (whose previous political experience consisted of only comedic punditry) to the United States Senate and we don't have humor?


Where's the respect?
By neothe0ne on 12/30/2008 11:31:07 AM , Rating: 2
U.S. District Judge Michael Davis is an "it" now, is he?




RE: Where's the respect?
By StoveMeister on 12/30/2008 2:11:07 PM , Rating: 2
Mixed pronouns I agree, but normally a judgement is read by a court, not a judge, hence the "it". Bad England that's for sure


Bastards
By MrBungle123 on 12/30/2008 11:26:04 AM , Rating: 2
I really hope that the RIAA doesn't get their way on this one. I'm not going to try an argue that Ms. Thomas did nothing wrong, but I don't think the punishment really fits the crime in these cases.

24 songs for $220,000 is just rediculous. What she did was roughly the equavalent of stealing two CD's, her punishment should be what would go along with stealing around $30 of merchandise... while admittedly I'm not exactly sure what an appropriate punishment for that is I do know it is not a $220,000 fine; which will almost certainly mean the financial ruin of this single mother of 3.

The idea that she is some how guilty of copyright infringement for making these songs available for someone else to steal doesn't even make any sense. If that were logical the RIAA could go after walmart for making thousands of CD's available in locations where they could potentally be stolen copied and those copies distributed... hell walmart even sells the computers and CD-R's to do it too. But then again an organization like walmart can afford to defend itself unlike the RIAA's usual targets.




Well
By xxsk8er101xx on 12/30/2008 1:16:05 PM , Rating: 2
I stopped buying music a long time ago. I hate fascist, i hate Nazis, and I hate Tom Cruz. HMmm am i implying something? i dunno maybe ...

anyway RIAA music industry needs to be destroyed ... only way to do that is to stop buying their music. Just stop. Make your own. That's what people did before the RIAA came out.

Go buy a guitar or something and make your own music. That's what I think anyway.




Reminds me
By FITCamaro on 12/30/2008 4:08:12 PM , Rating: 2
Of a Sliders episode where right before they slid, Rembrant bumped into an old lady, said sorry, and then lawyer came running up to him a second later saying she was suing him for injuries and trauma which occurred during the collision.

Wonder how far we are from that...




question...
By MadMan007 on 12/30/2008 4:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
Is part of copyright infringement making profit from the infringement? If not what is that called since it must have a different term? I'm thinking of the NFL rebroadcast disclaimer where it's not a problem to say, record the game and play it back for a group of friends.




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