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Sony says the PS4 is selling well

Sony says that it has sold 2.1 million PS4 consoles as of December 1. Sony also notes that PS4 owners are taking advantage of the social features of the new console, and that over 6.5 million shares have been captured using the Share button on the PS4 controller.
 
"PS4 delivered the best launch in PlayStation history with the North American release and we've continued this incredibly successful start in Europe, Australasia and Latin America," said Andrew House, President and Group CEO, Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. 

 
"Demand remains incredibly strong and continues to overwhelm the supply worldwide, but we are diligently working to meet those growing demands and to deliver additional PS4 units to our retail partners throughout the holiday season."
 
Sony officially announced the PS4 console in June. The PS4 launched on November 15 in the U.S. and Canada, but the console has been in limited supply and some of the early units had an issue dubbed the "blue light of death."
 
On November 29, the console was made available in Europe, Australia, and Latin America. As of now, the PS4 is available in 32 countries around the world.

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competition = good
By chromal on 12/3/2013 12:29:01 PM , Rating: 4
I'm happy to see both the xbox and playstation new generation platforms do well, and I wish Nintendo good luck as well. Hopefully a good healthy ecosystem of game consoles and titles for folks to enjoy.

Me? I'll stick with Steam on my decent Win7 PC. :)




RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/3/2013 3:45:31 PM , Rating: 2
As a card-carrying member of the Glorious PC Master Race, if I was forced to recommend only one console to a fellow member it would be a Wii U.

Seriously. There is so much cross-over between a PC and an XBox One, except that the PC has much better hardware, etc. A Nintendo console has A+ exclusives you aren't going to find anywhere else. The Wii U has the advantage of being out for a whole year, and as a result it has the best library of the new consoles. Super Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD, and Pikmin 3 are better than any of the other exclusives out there. SM3DW is incredible, up there with The Last Of Us for my GOTY.

I have a launch PS4, but I'm not kidding myself that it won't really get used much until next year. Its fine, console launches almost always suck. What were the launch games I got for the 360, King Kong and Condemned? Bleagh. :)


RE: competition = good
By Reclaimer77 on 12/3/2013 5:12:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
up there with The Last Of Us for my OGOTY .


Overrated Game Of The Year

/fixed :)


RE: competition = good
By retrospooty on 12/3/2013 8:05:29 PM , Rating: 1
That is pretty much takin on any software.


RE: competition = good
By Reclaimer77 on 12/3/2013 8:14:39 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah lol. Last of Us is SO bad. You aren't playing a game, you're watching a movie. And the gameplay mechanics, for a game so highly rated, are surprisingly lacking.

I think the reviewers are suffering from Avatar syndrome. Caught up in the visuals and splendor, and giving all the truly shi%^y stuff a pass.


RE: competition = good
By retrospooty on 12/3/2013 9:44:11 PM , Rating: 1
LOL... I know. I haven't played Last of us, but I did check out some of the other games Takin was going on about. FTL and Frozen Synapse are quite simply 2 of the lamest games I have ever been recomended to try. Not just boring, they were excruciating. These are a few of his examples of how apps are better on IOS. ROFL. It makes sense now, the guy just has no taste. Factor in the total lack of taste and his posts all make sense now.


RE: competition = good
By nikon133 on 12/3/2013 9:53:49 PM , Rating: 2
I have a strong feel Reclaimer hasn't played it either...


RE: competition = good
By Reclaimer77 on 12/3/2013 10:10:53 PM , Rating: 2
I played it at a friends house. Is that okay with you?

My friend thought it sucked too lol.


RE: competition = good
By nikon133 on 12/4/2013 10:43:41 PM , Rating: 3
Everything is OK with me, everyone is entitled to opinion. You only sound like you TRIED it, not really PLAYED it. Games with strong storytelling usually don't make proper impression for a short stints.

Yes it does have fair amount of cut scenes, but I found action quite good. Atmosphere is also great, strong feel of vulnerability, good dialogues and voice acting... for a game. Heck, for most blockbuster movies as well, really. All my friends who own PS3 and played through game, loved it.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/3/2013 11:12:01 PM , Rating: 1
You should play TLOU, its great.

As for FTL and Frozen Synapse, they're also great, and it isn't just me.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/frozen-synapse
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/ftl-faster-than-...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-21-ftl-f...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-26-froze...

They might not be your thing but they're excellent games in the roguelike and strategy genres. They are very challenging though, especially FTL. Amazing soundtracks too. If you don't want a challenge of any sort then I can see how they aren't up your alley.

quote:
These are a few of his examples of how apps are better on IOS.


I was playing those games on PC well over a year before the ports were announced. I wasn't cherry picking them as iOS examples either, there are countless other games exclusive to it as well. Those two just happen to be great PC games I'm a fan of that can also work well with a touchscreen. I hate shooters and tech demos like Infinity Blade on touchscreen, great as they may look. The gameplay isn't my thing. I think tactics games, board/card games, and strategy games are perfect for touch though. I have no problem recommending those to anyone, while the other stuff flashy depends on if you are a graphics nut or not.

XCom Enemy Unknown manages all of these: good graphics, 100% faithful port from PC version, and great tactics gameplay.

Again, no cherry picking, its just that unless we're talking about Zynga and Rovio, what Android lacks in games is so incredibly wide that its actually really hard to miss with that sort of thing. Stuff like Blizzard putting off an Android port of Hearthstone for over a year isn't something I just made up, its just one of those things that consistently happens.

Its like talking about third party games on the Wii. Its just way more likely that something like GTA won't be on it while its on the XBox and Playstation, you know?


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 2:15:44 AM , Rating: 1
And because you guys dragged mobile app libraries when I was talking about PC gaming vs consoles, here's a great app my digital imaging tech and I used on set today: http://www.lightiron.com/
http://www.lightiron.com/products/todailies

Yes, I know, it doesn't matter how many games I bring up, how many specialized apps for medical/aviation/filmmaking I link, numerous quality apps like Alien Blue, no, there actually is no difference in depth or quality between iOS and Android mobile ecosystems, and if there is then it doesn't actually matter.

Because card slots. ;)


RE: competition = good
By retrospooty on 12/5/2013 7:33:13 AM , Rating: 2
"it doesn't matter how many games I bring up, how many specialized apps for medical/aviation/filmmaking I link, numerous quality apps like Alien Blue, no, there actually is no difference in depth or quality between iOS and Android mobile ecosystems"

Correct, but not for the reason you meantioned. It doesnt matter becasue we now know 2 things.

1. You have lousy taste in apps.
2. You dont know what is available on Android.

The truth is its really close. Not a distant second. IOS at this point still has a slight edge. 9 on a 10 scale while Android is an 8.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 11:27:23 AM , Rating: 2
Lousy taste because you say so? Haha, ok.

FS and FTL are two of the best PC strategy games and roguelikes in years. Super fun gameplay, awards like crazy, rabid fanbase, and Android users clamoring for them.

I can't help it if they're too hard for you or if you need a lot of hand holding in your games.

I also don't need to own a Wii to know that its missing most of what other platforms have. Same situation here. I see this kind of post on gaming sites every day, even among Android fans: http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=31174457#item_3...

These aren't indies that are being missed out on either, these are flagship games by the biggest companies in the industry. But who cares about 2K and Blizzard, right?


RE: competition = good
By retrospooty on 12/5/2013 6:52:11 PM , Rating: 2
"Lousy taste because you say so? Haha, ok"

But that is the exact same logic you use for games and apps that you like. I agree, ridiculous. Mine was mockingly sarcastic though, yours is real. We have all come to the realization that when you say "better" it means absolutely nothing other than "better to Taken" and your points should be taken with huge lumps of salt.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/6/2013 3:13:50 AM , Rating: 2
Nah, if someone like BF4 or something then more power to them, it just isn't for me. That's totally cool, I think its boring but I prefer harder games like Starcraft/DOTA and old-school style FPS like Quake. Again, that's just me.

If I talk about something more objectively measurable, something like color gamut, gamma curve, accuracy, software libraries, or performance benchmarks, then it is much much easier to make more solid statements like that.

Better is better.

After that its all about explaining why the drawbacks of something inferior are acceptable (ie - I can't afford more horsepower in my budget, my lighting conditions don't allow for a better display, I prefer hardware flexibility over horsepower and software ecosystem, etc). That doesn't automatically make the alternative better, its just better given self-imposed constraints and preferences.

I understand both sides. Its when someone (like most active posters here) insists that their way is the ONLY way and everyone else is an idiot that it gets ridiculous.


RE: competition = good
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 7:09:43 AM , Rating: 2
I totally agree with you here... It's just that this post conflicts with most of your other posts.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/3/2013 10:52:28 PM , Rating: 3
I'm generally all about mechanics in games. That's why my most played games are ones like Starcraft, DOTA, Quake 3/Live, Street Fighter, etc. Mechanically challenging, highly competitive, but fun. I hate most modern shooters because they've done mechanics so badly. My rig can play BF4 60fps on ultra at 1440p, no problem, and I feel like I wasted my money on the game. So boring.

I also hate most on-rails games. Naughty Dog got away with it for me with Uncharted 2 and TLOU. The stories are so good that they kept me drawn in. TLOU started off ok but by the Winter chapter it was impossible to put down. Going in between characters the way that it did was genius. The sneaking mechanics worked within the story. If you're so bad that its hard then I can understand it being frustrating. The ending is also one of the best I've seen in any medium this year, film and TV included. I think that and the Breaking Bad finale were up there.

By the way, your criticisms 1000% apply to Bioshock Infinite. Terrible gameplay, awful shooting mechanics, no meaningful choices, terrible plot driven story that is at the expense of character, and an ending that makes the most ludicrous M Night Shyalaman twist look good. Its just a terrible game that gets worse the more time you have away from it.

There's no waiting for the backlash there either, it started months ago. TLOU is only gaining in esteem as time goes on, and Naughty Dog's next game is going to be very highly anticipated.


RE: competition = good
By cyberserf on 12/4/2013 1:35:38 AM , Rating: 2
Competition really is an good thing. look how those fools at MS turned around their decision quick after an uproar to add always on internet/kinect always on and no used games.

Now look at the PC industry where there is no competition for Windows so we have W8 and no matter how much people complain MS just does not care since we don't really have any alternatives.


RE: competition = good
By HostileEffect on 12/4/2013 2:03:26 AM , Rating: 2
Linux, xsos, react os, older versions of windows with mods... ehh.. some others


RE: competition = good
By xti on 12/4/2013 11:50:46 AM , Rating: 2
no..just...no

at least not for gaming.


RE: competition = good
By Spuke on 12/4/2013 2:11:15 PM , Rating: 2
Takin,

BF4 is boring?? Really? I guess getting spawn trolled all the time would make me disheartened too. Actually, I think I have a set of your tags.


RE: competition = good
By Digimonkey on 12/4/2013 2:43:16 PM , Rating: 2
He also said BioShock Infinite had awful shooting mechanics. I'd assume that he's just really bad at FPS games.


RE: competition = good
By Spuke on 12/4/2013 3:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
He also said BioShock Infinite had awful shooting mechanics. I'd assume that he's just really bad at FPS games.
LOL! Yeah, he must suck.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 2:32:22 AM , Rating: 2
My railgun and rocket launcher accuracy says no. :)

Sorry dude, B:I had that awful Unreal Engine 3 feel to it. There was little meaningful difference between a bunch of awful feeling guns with no oomph, and there was no real hard decision to make between leveling up your skills since you could get your vigors all up to a decent place anyway.

Bioshock Infinite is an easy, boring game that takes absolutely zero skill and gives you no tough choices. Ken Levine peaked with System Shock 2, that game had great atmosphere that forced HARD decisions up the skill trees. No backtracking and there were big pluses and minuses with each decision. Bioshock was passable (awful last quarter) and B:I was overrated trash.

Its no big deal if you like it though. Lots of people like you enjoy easy on-rails games.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 2:24:32 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it sucks. The last fun Battlefield game was BF2, I think because of the novelty at the time. 1942 was the peak because of its awesome vehicle physics. I could play Market Garden and Wake Island all day. Modern realistic shooters are super boring and require no skill. Snipe snipe snipe, shotgun shotgun, get kills in a tank.

YAWN.

Keep your baby shooters. Give me a real skill FPS like Quake 3 any day.


RE: competition = good
By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 2:20:59 AM , Rating: 2
I think Valve has a shot at making Linux a viable alternative.

Yes, this will take time. Steam took time. I had it since early beta when it was just a patcher for CS 1.6, and it wasn't very good. The Half Life 2 launch was a disaster from a technical standpoint. Conservative tech-tards wrote it off as something that would never work, that it would never replace discs for media, etc. A few years later and it became an absolutely indispensable part of PC gaming.

Gabe is one of the few tech visionaries out there. He sees where the puck is going and he lays the groundwork years in advance to get to where its going.

Windows doesn't have an alternative for PC gaming. Not yet, but I think it will when Valve is through with their OS.


RE: competition = good
By Spuke on 12/4/2013 2:08:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I think the reviewers are suffering from Avatar syndrome.
And I thought I was the only one that hated Avatar.


Let the fanboy war commence
By dxf2891 on 12/3/2013 10:21:38 AM , Rating: 5
I don't care which one does better. I have them both. I'm a console gamer. I'm a BIG KID with a BIGGER CHECKBOOK. I don't have many vices, but this is one of them. My wife can have her cars, furs, jewelry and the like, as long as I have a well furnished Man Cave. Have fun, I know I will.




RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By retrospooty on 12/3/2013 12:18:26 PM , Rating: 4
"I'm a BIG KID with a BIGGER CHECKBOOK. I don't have many vices, but this is one of them"

LOL. +1


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By GulWestfale on 12/3/13, Rating: 0
RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By retrospooty on 12/4/2013 7:40:47 AM , Rating: 2
I wasn't mocking him nor do I think it's a vice... I was laughing because his comment was simply awesome! (Note the +1 ) LOL. I would hope it's not a vice, as my PC, XB360, PS3 and as soon as I can find one in stock - PS4 are all geared for it.


By Captain Awesome on 12/3/2013 12:34:37 PM , Rating: 3
LOL, whoever downvoted you doesn't approve of inter-console living rooms.

Although I do keep my 360 and PS4 segregated on different shelves.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By kleinma on 12/3/13, Rating: -1
RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By rburnham on 12/3/2013 2:15:18 PM , Rating: 2
That is how you make a marriage work. I like the way you think.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By nikon133 on 12/3/2013 4:46:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm doing the same. My wife just got iPhone 5s 64GB, Gold. Contract free for NZ$1,300.00. I got Lumia 920, contract free, for NZ$400. Price difference will cover for my PS4, extra controller and a game or two.

Fair is fair. ;)


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By GulWestfale on 12/3/13, Rating: -1
RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By nikon133 on 12/3/2013 8:28:36 PM , Rating: 2
We got phones we wanted, not phones we were trolled to buy.

Cheapest Galaxy S3 32GB is around $120 more expensive than Lumia 920, and since I use it as work phone - I find it inferior to Lumia 920 for my needs.

In addition, I have some disagreements with Google these days.

I admire your dedication to your favourite platform, but your approach needs some polish. Unless you are trolling on purpose.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Reclaimer77 on 12/3/2013 8:46:29 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft sells targeted ads by mining Bing data. Just thought you should know. They aren't all that different than Google.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By nikon133 on 12/3/2013 9:47:55 PM , Rating: 2
Of course they are. That is not my "problem" with Google anyway.

It is more things like this:

http://www.dailytech.com/Dutch+Gov+to+Google+Dont+...

Not that I hate them for this - they do what is best for their business, but my thinking is, company with bread&butter in advertising is likely to be more "liberal" with my data than company with bread&butter in volume licensing and, in general, software/service selling.

And their occasional sleazy acts, like trying to hold Apple hostage with inferior maps, and then quickly releasing maps superior to Google's own platform (their words, much as I recall) after Apple decided to divorce. First thing that came to my mind was "No balls", and then "don't play with fire if you cannot stand the heat". Both thoughts are still lingering in my mind.

And their treatment of Windows Phone platform, not letting MS to release quality YouTube app because "all 3rd party developers must do HTML5 YouTube app".

Not that it hurts me - I don't YouTube on smartphone. Haven't done that on iPhone, not doing it on WP either. Tablets and PCs are much nicer for this ror any other video. But I'm finding these tactics a bit low for such high profile company, much as I am concerned. It is almost like company is being led by bunch of smart but otherwise douchebag-ish teens.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Reclaimer77 on 12/3/2013 10:06:04 PM , Rating: 2
The Internet is nation border agnostic. How in the hell can Google realistically change their entire business model because of one countries laws? Especially the Dutch! :P

quote:
And their occasional sleazy acts, like trying to hold Apple hostage with inferior maps


Whoa! Wait what? Wasn't it Apple who decided to dump Google Maps and force their own, inferior, solution onto it's customers? I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Held hostage by Google?

quote:
And their treatment of Windows Phone platform, not letting MS to release quality YouTube app because "all 3rd party developers must do HTML5 YouTube app".


Yeah that's way worst than Microsoft teaming up with Apple to pound Google hardware vendors with the patent troll hammer...

I also find the irony of making Microsoft seem the victim of a licensing and TOS dispute entertaining. How many decades did Microsoft rule the entire software and PC business with an iron fist this way?


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Totally on 12/4/2013 9:04:24 AM , Rating: 2
Chiming in on the Google vs. Microsoft point. It's not just youtube but all their services you used whenever they can. Their shenanigans with Gmail is what is getting on my nerves, they've practically disabled everything and limit you to the mobile version when on WP. Hop on an andriod phone or device it's all there. So much for a company that does no evil.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Reclaimer77 on 12/4/2013 10:43:27 AM , Rating: 2
How is that evil? If you want the full Google experience, you should have an Android device.

If you want the full Bing experience, there's Windows Phone.

If you want the full...whatever Apple does, there's iOS.

It sounds like Windows Phone users want to have their cake and eat it too. You want to claim it's a great ecosystem, then when the reality of how inadequate it truly is sets in, blame Google for that.

There's no official Instagram app for Windows Phone either. Are they also being evil and anti-competitive? No.

The truth is Windows Phone is an insignificant share of the market, and companies like Google see no point in dedicating resources to it.

The solution here is to just bite the bullet, and not use Windows Phone. Let's face it, it's always going to be last in app development. The updates from Microsoft itself come painfully slow, too slow. And you don't have the Google apps you crave and love, you might never have them.

It sounds like what you want is an open meadow, not the walled garden my friend.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Totally on 12/4/2013 3:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
When you're dicking around a certain set of consumers just because they're using a competitors product an no other reason other than just because is morally wrong. Sure it's within their legal means to do so but last time I checked laws aren't absolute and did't determine what is good nor evil.

These are services accessed through a web browser. On a desktop or laptop, it doesn't matter what OS one is using the experience is the same across all three OSX, Windows, and Linux. On a smartphone you are actively blocked and redirected to lesser services depending on OS. This isn't an issue of a company not porting software to a platform. And I'm getting sick of these double standards, if Microsoft was doing the same exact thing here I couldn't even begin to imagine the amount of litigation that would ensue. Nice straw man, btw.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By Reclaimer77 on 12/4/2013 9:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
I can't believe you're turning this into a moral issue...wow. Especially coming from a Microsoft advocate!


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By nikon133 on 12/4/2013 11:01:35 PM , Rating: 1
Microsoft is licensing their IPs, not trying to kill block Android in court like Apple... I think it is acceptable.

Back in IE/Netscape and Word/WP days, I was big opponent to MS in general, refusing to use their products whenever I could. But after they were slapped with anti-trust and domesticated, I accepted that they were not same old MS anymore.

Honestly, I think Apple and Google need some slapping as well, in order to make them decent, benign companies again.

I'm not expecting Google to write YouTube app for WP platform if they find it undersized, but I cannot justify them blocking MS to write their app properly. It does not cost them anything, and it brings more customers to YouTube (and Google adds). Insisting that MS must develop app in HTML5 might be their right, but it is also plain and simple bullying. They could just as well decide that 3rd party must do YouTube app in Commodore Basic, with at least 80% of code in PEEK and POKE commands.

In that light, it really saddens me that MS cannot demand that Google Chrome and other Google apps for Windows desktop must be made in some obscure, underperforming code. After all, Android mobile dominance is not that much lower than Windows desktop dominance.

Re maps, if memory serves, Google was refusing to do turn-by-turn navigation for iOS maps, or something like that? And after Apple announced their own maps, Google launched sparkling new maps for iOS and claimed that it is the best Google Maps app on any platform available, including Android. How spineless is that? Don't bully if you cannot stand being bitch-slapped.


By TakinYourPoints on 12/5/2013 2:41:27 AM , Rating: 2
Google does what any company does despite their cutesy marketing image: chase the money.

Why do they put the best versions of their apps first to iOS? Money. They make way more revenue from iOS than they do from Android, so they keep putting tons of resources into iOS even if it means their own Android efforts lag behind.

They don't make money from Windows Phone because WP doesn't have any meaningful marketshare, plain and simple. Google says "don't be evil" but altruism has nothing to do with anything, its all about money. If iOS wasn't so big and profitable for them then they'd be treating them just like they do Microsoft.

Its all business and what you can get away with.


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By nikon133 on 12/3/2013 4:43:04 PM , Rating: 2
I salute you.


By Monkey's Uncle on 12/3/2013 5:37:14 PM , Rating: 2
You da maaan!!!

Adopt me please!


RE: Let the fanboy war commence
By bgm063 on 12/3/2013 5:42:14 PM , Rating: 2
Amen brother! LOL.. Amen! :-)


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