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Sony's PS4 continues to dominate the next generation console market

While Microsoft has yet to offer up an official tally of Xbox One consoles sold to date, Sony continues to tout the sales performance of its comparable PlayStation 4 (PS4). In mid February, Sony announced that it had sold 5.3 million PS4 consoles since its November 2013 launch.
 
Reuters now reports that as of March 2, that figure has jumped to 6 million.

 
The spike in sales can mostly be attributed to the console’s launch in Japan during the weekend of February 22. During its Japanese launch, Sony sold 322,083 PS4s.
 
So far, the PS4 is trending well ahead of Sony’s sales projections — the company had forecast that it would only sell 5 million units by the end of March.

Source: Reuters





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Congrats to Sony
By therealnickdanger on 3/4/2014 8:40:57 AM , Rating: 2
It's still early, but it sure seems like Sony is kicking arse this time around. Microsoft is already admitting how overpriced the Xbone is by cutting their prices (Titanfall Bunduru). I'm just happy I abandoned my 360 a couple years ago and went back to PC gaming. No more consoles!




RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2014 1:51:26 PM , Rating: 2
PS3 initial sales looked bleak as well but can anyone say the PS3 failed in the long run?

Microsoft will not close the performance GAP but make it close enough that no one will care but if Microsoft gets Mantle and Sony cant then the gap could close altogether.

Microsoft to boost Xbox One GPU performance by making Kinect optional
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/175463-microsoft...

Rumor: Xbox One Might Be Getting Graphics Performance Patch
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/01/28/...

Updated: Microsoft Preparing To One-Up AMD's Mantle With New Version of DirectX
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/02...

If anyone is losing here its Nintendo.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By SPOOFE on 3/4/2014 2:28:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
PS3 initial sales looked bleak as well but can anyone say the PS3 failed in the long run?

Nope, but it didn't dominate as Sony expected, a la the PS2. The PS3 gave em a slice of humble pie, probably why they went with more conventional tech this time.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By retrospooty on 3/4/2014 3:14:36 PM , Rating: 2
Dood... You sound desperate.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2014 3:47:27 PM , Rating: 2
Desperate for what? I already own the XBox one and it does what I expected it to do? My family mainly plays games like Skylanders and Dance Central.

If I want to play first person shooters I will play them on my PC at 5760x1080 on triple screens.

If Im desperate its to play on 6 screens at 5760x2160 but Im working on that.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By retrospooty on 3/4/14, Rating: 0
RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2014 4:29:06 PM , Rating: 2
I fail to see the problem.

No amount of resolution or framerate can turn a bad game into a good one. The game is either fun or its not.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2014 4:47:34 PM , Rating: 2
Personally I think both consoles are GPU limited maybe a Jaguar version short of where they should be especially if both Sony and Microsoft think they can get 7-8 years out of them. Just dont see it happening. The PS4 has stuttering issues with some games at 1080P. Patching and further optimizations will most likely clear it up its just bad out of the gates. Both companies rushed to be first when both probably should have waited another year or went for discreet GPU instead of current generation integrated and the game companies are to blame for poor porting of the games.

Thats the plain truth do you honestly think either console has a 7-8 year life span like the previous generation consoles?

I think consumers would be best to potentially skip this round and wait till both consoles drop in price significantly or wait for the next gen consoles which I honestly believe is 3-4 years from now and enjoy the PS3/XBox 360 a few years more. Its not like there are a ton of exclusives for the PS4/XBone that justify the price of either console still. Its still just bragging rights.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Reclaimer77 on 3/5/2014 12:27:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Thats the plain truth do you honestly think either console has a 7-8 year life span like the previous generation consoles?


I think the one that can't even manage 1080p@60fps in 2014 has less of a lifespan than one who can.

Your arguments are old and tired, and they come off as desperation.

Microsoft blew it with the Xbone. And the market is speaking to that fact.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/5/2014 9:35:16 AM , Rating: 2
Lot of people are complaining about stuttering on the PS4 games so in order to fix that they will most likely have to sacrifice eye candy. So lower textures to get 1080p or lower resolution to keep framerates up.

Like I said I believe both consoles are a jaguar version too early trying to beat each other out the door. Even if both got Mantle low level API's it will help but I don't see either as 7-8 year console lifespan. 4 years tops.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By retrospooty on 3/4/14, Rating: 0
RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/4/2014 7:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
I dont see a spin answer in any of my posts. If anything Im telling people to steer away from both until the price drops and there are more titles worth upgrading for. The PS3 and 360 have almost all the same titles if your ok with spending about $20.00 less per game and a little less eye candy. Im sure Titanfall will be a great game but is it worth spending $500.00 for just one title and maybe 2 other titles worth owning heck no.

I see this as an opportunity for Nintendo do drop the Wii-U and provide a real next gen console late this year but very doubtful they will.

If anything it shows that people are willing to spend $400-$500 on a game console and if Nintendo were smart they would come up with a system that these two should have been.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Reclaimer77 on 3/5/2014 12:22:46 AM , Rating: 2
Isn't it amazing how Mitch claims to quit Daily Tech to do "more important" things. But as soon as something is posted that might make Microsoft look bad, he's here carrying the water?

Either he's checking Daily Tech more often than he would admit, or he has a "Spidey" sense and gets a tingle whenever Microsoft fails.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/5/2014 10:41:19 AM , Rating: 2
Self boosting your credibility?

I made whopping 13 posts last month probably all to the same article. Im quite sure there were many other negative articles I could have posted to but chose to do something else. Like the collecting parts for a custom built virtual pinball machine takes time I found someone that will fabricate a custom lockdown bar for a reasonable price of $75.00 instead of $150.00 like one particular site charges.

I still read DT they are publishing much better articles I just choose not to participate as often its rather pointless. Posts are very one sided here and counter productive.

And Dont worry you still own the comments section. I can tell by your votes that your comments are highly valued here.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By retrospooty on 3/5/2014 12:48:27 PM , Rating: 2
"Posts are very one sided here and counter productive."

That couldnt be more ironic if Tony Swash himself posted it. Mitch, you do NOTHING here but defend MS as if you have a personal stake in it. You are the LAST person that should call anything "one sided". You are the one on one side.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/5/2014 1:54:11 PM , Rating: 2
Because my family likes Kinect and dance games instead of mashing buttons?

Because I use an HP Touchpad running Cyanogenmod and don't feel the need to upgrade?

Because I recommend waiting on console price drops or more games and have even suggested building a steam box instead or an opportunity for Nintendo?

Because Im capable of installing a Free app that solves the disaster that is a missing start button on Windows 8?

I do love my Windows Phone you got me there its rock solid unlike the number of Android disasters my wife and I have owned?

Solved that Pro MS case have you?


RE: Congrats to Sony
By retrospooty on 3/5/2014 2:15:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, nothing to do with any of that. Its about you coming here and defending anything and everything MS does, consistently. Lets not pretend you don't do that, it's just insulting.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By Mitch101 on 3/5/2014 3:31:12 PM , Rating: 2
Nice try but I tell people to buy Android tablets because its the best deal and that Microsoft isn't there yet.

Not impressed by Android as a phone so you got me there but a 50 megapixel phone is on the way from Oppo so Nokia could have some competition there but why change when Windows Phone works perfectly for me. Just have no interest in looking elsewhere because my Nokia is great.

Really am I supposed to have something positive to say about a Chromebook when a Laptop is much more functional and Apple is way overpriced?

Bing is on par with Google search but Bing excels at other things Google isn't (flights and video) but sure they will steal them from Bing just like image scroll. Sorry about Google Maps thats a huge negative now I really hope they go back to the old maps the new one is a disaster.

Sorry if I'm not cheering up a storm for Google/Android its a good tablet OS Ill give you that otherwise everything Google makes isn't gold.

Get over the hype and its ok for people to like things you dont its not all about specs.


RE: Congrats to Sony
By inperfectdarkness on 3/6/2014 4:16:07 AM , Rating: 2
Still rather have a Wii-U over an Xbone.


It cool to hate
By Da W on 3/4/14, Rating: 0
RE: It cool to hate
By retrospooty on 3/4/2014 9:48:48 AM , Rating: 3
"May be it's a generation thing, it's cool to hate everything Microsoft does"

No, IT's not that. MS lately has really pulled some boneheaded moves, and released questionable products with features and limitations that make you go "WHAT"? They have earned the negativity. They can also earn the positive back.


RE: It cool to hate
By drlumen on 3/4/2014 11:21:28 AM , Rating: 2
Generational? Perhaps.

I guess my generation started hating MS during the windows 95 rollout. MS was screwing every company and developer left and right to get an unfair advantage for their new offerings of office and explorer. My favorite adage for them is still that others invent and develop while MS discovers and acquires. It is their founding principal. ie pcdos.

IMO, they went from reasonably cool to downright abominable. I don't see them EVER being "cool".

Granted Sony has problems too.


SO!
By Dr of crap on 3/4/2014 8:48:58 AM , Rating: 1
Kind like all the news on here about the number of cell phones sold - SO!

Should I be impressed by some number of units sold?

Totally not needed.

Like you parents would say - "If Johnny jumps off a bridge, will you too?"




RE: SO!
By tayb on 3/4/2014 9:43:16 AM , Rating: 2
In the console world I think sales numbers do have some relevance. If the PS4 is the runaway sales leader it will be harder for Microsoft to convince developers and publishers to target the Xbox One as the primary platform or as the exclusive platform. Because games are planned years in advance a massive early lead by Sony could potentially cause 2016 AAA titles to be just a hair better on the PS4.

Not only that but early console sales tend to have an effect on product perception which influences the market. If the PS4 is selling twice as many units as the Xbox One that may make the PS4 even more desirable and the Xbox One even less desirable. This could snowball.

It's still way too early in the game to be making long term predictions. I see a $100 price drop in the short term future of the Xbox One.


RE: SO!
By Argon18 on 3/4/14, Rating: 0
Short Term Sales King
By Arsynic on 3/4/2014 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 2
I fully expect PS4 early sales to be strong but they'll hit a nasty stall in a couple of years once all of the core gamers are on board. Casual gamers don't play console games anymore and non-gamers have no incentive to buy the PS4.

I do expect Xbox One to be slow and steady but have a much longer tail than the PS4 since it reaches out to non-gaming markets. Personally, I've used my Xbox One for everything but gaming for the first couple of months.




By zlandar on 3/4/2014 10:47:21 AM , Rating: 2
No games out on the PS4 or Xbox One that are "must buy" for me.

Not going to buy either one until it happens.




I will purchase one...
By Mithan on 3/4/2014 3:27:47 PM , Rating: 2
I will purchase one when Destiny comes out and they shrink the size down. It is far to big right now for me to want to add it to my entertainment center. I've still got the original Xbox360 and PS3 sitting in there and plan on boxing them both up now.

I hate huge entertainment equipment now.




6 million for a quarter? Meh!
By ApTeM on 3/4/14, Rating: -1
RE: 6 million for a quarter? Meh!
By Shadowmaster625 on 3/4/2014 9:51:44 AM , Rating: 2
Less than a smartphone? Smoke what? My smartphone with Snapdragon MSM8960 and a 5" screen only costed $150, with no contract. Just because some idiots like to waste money doesnt mean that is how much a smartphone costs. Smartphones are much cheaper than gaming consoles.


RE: 6 million for a quarter? Meh!
By A5 on 3/4/2014 9:59:16 AM , Rating: 2
Even ignoring that, the vast majority of smartphones are bought on contract.

And console game systems have never been a gigantic market, Even something like the PS2 "only" sold 155M units in a decade.


RE: 6 million for a quarter? Meh!
By Vertigo2000 on 3/4/2014 11:53:36 AM , Rating: 2
The target market is also a lot larger for phones. My grandparents, if they were alive, would probably have a phone... they certainly wouldn't own a console.

Your average house of 2 parents and 2 children probably has 3-4 phones and only 1 console.

Your average business is likely to provide phones to their employees... they certainly aren't providing them with game consoles.

Get the picture?


RE: 6 million for a quarter? Meh!
By nikon133 on 3/4/2014 4:12:19 PM , Rating: 2
This is true, but consoles really start generating money to manufacturers after they are sold. Software price is much higher than average smartphone software, and then there are subscriptions and accessories.

I don't know how common my scenario is, but still (some prices are rounded, I don't remember exactly how much I paid for each gadget:

PS3 console: NZ$540
2nd controller: NZ$100
2 move controllers: NZ$120
PS3 camera: NZ$50?
Motion controller: NZ$40
7.1 headset: NZ$150
Controller charger: NZ$40
Move charger: NZ$50

And then, I have collected around 70 PS3 games. New ones were around NZ$100, platinum/preowned from $20 up... say NZ$60 on average per game, total of NZ$4200.

All together, that makes around NZ$5300 - almost 10x the price of console itself. Of course Sony didn't get all the money, but still - they got decent chunk of it.

So for PS4, I will re-use my headset and Move controllers... but I will be paying around NZ$100 per year for PSN+. This might reduce my games purchase, though - I will be getting some of the games for "free" with PSN+. But, I will be looking at rumoured PS4 VR headset, which cannot be cheap. There might be other accessories that will attract me. Eventually, I'm pretty sure I will give Sony comparable amount of money for this generation.

Smartphones? I paid iPhone 3Gs full price back in 2009 - around NZ$1300 - but spent only NZ$20 for paid apps. Everything else I used was free or built-in. Last year I got Lumia 920 for NZ$450 (again contract-free), and so far I paid NZ$10 for couple of apps.

Again, I don't know how typical my scenario is - but most gamers I know do spend a lot of money on games and accessories for their system (or systems), and I don't know anyone who has spend hundreds - left alone thousands - on apps and accessories for their smartphones. I think this does balance things a bit.


By Vertigo2000 on 3/5/2014 11:37:11 AM , Rating: 2
The OP wasn't impressed by the initial sales numbers. All I was pointing out is that he's comparing apples to oranges. I've met people who work with 3 phones, but I know don't own a single gaming console.

The 2 should not be compared.


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