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Leaked Bandit screen shot  (Source: evleaks)
Leaked image shows extra columns of tiles on the home screen

A leaked image has turned up on Twitter (courtesy of evleaks) that claims to be a screenshot from the big-screen Nokia “Bandit” smartphone. The screenshot shows a reworked on screen for Windows Phone specifically designed for larger screen devices – in this case, 1080p. The Nokia Bandit is supposed to have a six-inch screen and the expanded Start Screen shows two extra columns for titles.

Previously leaked details suggest that Nokia's new phone could be called the Lumia 1520 when it's officially launched.

Current Windows Phone devices only have enough space for four columns of the smallest tiles. The Starts screen on the 1520 shows six total columns of small files. Other rumored specifications for the Nokia smartphone include a QUALCOMM 800 Snapdragon processor, full HD resolution display, and a 20-megapixel rear camera.
The phone is expected to launch a Nokia press conference to be held in New York on September 26.

This has been a big week for Microsoft and Nokia with Microsoft announcing that it is purchasing Nokia's hardware division and other assets for over $7 billion.

Source: Neowin



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Home Screen
By Red Storm on 9/3/2013 11:01:13 AM , Rating: 5
That home screen is one big cluttered mess...




RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 11:06:03 AM , Rating: 2
LOL... For the user that needs to see everything now, all at once. The only thing missing is the 5 day weather forecast and a stock ticker. ;)


RE: Home Screen
By p05esto on 9/3/2013 11:06:57 AM , Rating: 4
You should try it though. Once you use it you'll never ever go back to icons on a cell phone. The OS is slick, fast and the live tiles are wonderful. Trust me, try it!!! Win8 phones are VERY good. As much as I hate Win8 on the desktop I like it on the phone.


RE: Home Screen
By invidious on 9/3/2013 11:19:20 AM , Rating: 1
When cell phones start coming with 90 day no questions asked return policies then maybe people will be willing to "just try it", until then its a pretty thin argument. But we will all be driving flying pigs to work before that happens.


RE: Home Screen
By Samus on 9/3/2013 1:03:24 PM , Rating: 2
Just try a friends. I used my buddies Lumia 920 for 10 minutes an bought an HTC 8XT the next day.


RE: Home Screen
By n0b0dykn0ws on 9/3/2013 2:32:54 PM , Rating: 2
Out of all the people I know that have smartphones only one has a Windows Phone, and it's an older model at that.

Maybe a renter phone? Try it for 30 days, at the end of the month take it back and it gets wiped. If you want one you buy a new or refurbished unit.


RE: Home Screen
By Xplorer4x4 on 9/5/2013 6:05:59 PM , Rating: 2
They already do. Well close to it anyway on VZW and ATT. Not sure about T-Mob or Sprint, but Sprint is worthless in this neck of the woods. You have 14 days to decide. If you don't like it, you can return it before the 14 days is up and swap it out for another phone. It does cost like $15-$30 I think, but that's not so bad.


RE: Home Screen
By Red Storm on 9/3/2013 11:19:32 AM , Rating: 1
Oh I have tried it. Not for me. I also don't like the grid o' icons on iOS. I like a clean home screen with some toggles and a few gesture shortcuts to get to everything I need. ;)


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 11:45:37 AM , Rating: 2
"You should try it though. Once you use it you'll never ever go back to icons on a cell phone."

I have, and its OK, but I prefer the way Android does it... I have my launch bar for the main apps, Widgets for the things I want to see instant info on and a few icons for the rest, leaving room to see my wallpaper and customizations. Neat and clean and exactly what I want and need to see (not what some company thinks I need to see).

What looks nicer to me is this, /pasted screenshot to imgur http://i.imgur.com/udZf9zt.png


RE: Home Screen
By BZDTemp on 9/3/2013 12:23:12 PM , Rating: 4
Why waste space for seeing a wallpaper?

Nothing wrong with wallpaper, but unless I have a whole wall what matters is not wallpaper if that means having to do something to see the info I want.


RE: Home Screen
By piroroadkill on 9/4/2013 9:27:54 AM , Rating: 2
Personally, I like to see a nice photo of my girlfriend every time I unlock my phone, or am at my home screen.

Sometimes it's just flat out nice to have a full screen with little content.


RE: Home Screen
By Jeffk464 on 9/3/2013 12:35:38 PM , Rating: 2
wow, thats a pretty nice looking android page


RE: Home Screen
By Flunk on 9/3/2013 12:42:46 PM , Rating: 2
There's a lot of blank space on that screenshot. Wouldn't it be more effectively used with more widgets?


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 1:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
I actually do have a small contact Widget there, but I moved it to another page to not show peoples pics and names on the web.

The point is it's exactly what I want and nothing I don't- totally customize-able to suit any needs. For info I want to see immediately like emails, feedly(widgets on another page) contacts and time/weather - widgets. For other less used items, icons and some open space to keep it from being too cluttered *which is just a personal preference.


RE: Home Screen
By powerwerds on 9/3/2013 6:49:24 PM , Rating: 3
I also prefer the tidy, clean, uncluttered home screen. I put exactly what I want and nothing I don't. My phone is totally customizable and able to suit any of my needs. I have WP8 and my start screen looks nothing like the hectic bonanza in the article's photo. You are defending your style as if it is in opposition to what WP8 offers. It seems you as if you are unfamiliar with the WP8 UI. You do know you can remove every last one of those annoying tiles right?


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 7:52:45 PM , Rating: 2
I have played with it. It is customizeable but not as much so and not near the widget support. Tiles sort of cover that, but to a much lesser extent. If you are going in order.

1. Android - totally customizeable
2. WP - Mostly customizeable.
3. IOS - "We know what is best for you. Icons only, just like grandpa used to use".

:D


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 7:52:45 PM , Rating: 2
I have played with it. It is customizeable but not as much so and not near the widget support. Tiles sort of cover that, but to a much lesser extent. If you are going in order.

1. Android - totally customizeable
2. WP - Mostly customizeable.
3. IOS - "We know what is best for you. Icons only, just like grandpa used to use".

:D


RE: Home Screen
By crispbp04 on 9/3/2013 1:45:59 PM , Rating: 3
That screenshot is ugly as sin. So much chrome and nonsense I thought I took a time machine back to 2010.


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 2:33:52 PM , Rating: 1
Whatever, I change it often, that is just what I put on a few days ago. It also looks much sleaker in motion, which you cannot see in a screenshot. The point is it's totally customizeable to suit your specific needs. To me, WP8 looks like its from the 1990's. WP also it isn't nearly as customizeable.


RE: Home Screen
By crispbp04 on 9/3/2013 3:19:46 PM , Rating: 3
I'm glad it works for you. I love the cleanliness of a flat UI.

Not to call you out here, but could you explain why you think WP8 looks like it's from the 1990's? It is not reminiscent of any design language of that time. If anything, the flat UI makes anything chromed out look dated in comparison (IMO).

Your screenshot screams 1990's to me. Chrome buttons and animated backgrounds? The only thing you need is a MIDI file playing and you're back in 1996. I remember having an animated background on my laptop running Linux in 1997 and thought it was the coolest thing ever. It was a shame that the only thing productive I did in Linux was chat on BitchX and laugh at everyone getting blasted with teardrop.c and WinNuke. Those were simple times.


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/13, Rating: 0
RE: Home Screen
By ClownPuncher on 9/3/2013 6:33:03 PM , Rating: 2
Add a drop shadow to it so your brain can handle the change :P


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 8:16:36 PM , Rating: 2
HEy, if you like flat, bland and boring, we have that too. Win8 theme applied. Ick though ;)

http://i.imgur.com/t9Yl0uv.png


RE: Home Screen
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2013 8:39:23 PM , Rating: 2
lol dude come on, represent better! :P

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com....


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 8:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
Lol... I found it by searching for "ugly joke theme"


RE: Home Screen
By retrospooty on 9/4/2013 10:34:46 AM , Rating: 2
Your link didnt work, but I think you meant launcher 8 for Android, that makes your UI look like this...

http://i.imgur.com/jHLmg09.png

Not bad. It does look pretty damn close. All the more reason to stick with Android. LOL


RE: Home Screen
By Jeffk464 on 9/3/2013 12:33:39 PM , Rating: 2
I'm seriously considering a nokia 521, because its a steal at the price range


RE: Home Screen
By jklauderdale on 9/3/2013 1:06:49 PM , Rating: 2
No flash on the camera is a deal killer for me. The few times I need to use the camera at work I need that flash


RE: Home Screen
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2013 3:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No flash on the camera is a deal killer for me.


That and the 480p resolution. I mean seriously, 480p?


RE: Home Screen
By cbf on 9/3/2013 6:19:50 PM , Rating: 2
Uh, the camera is listed as "5 MP" (see http://www.nokia.com/us-en/phones/phone/lumia521/s... ) -- that'd be about five times 480P resolution. Even for video, it's capable of 720P.

Are you referring to 480 as in the 800 x 480 resolution of the screen? Do you have know of another Smartphone that sells for $130 *no contract* that does better?


RE: Home Screen
By corduroygt on 9/5/2013 12:08:22 PM , Rating: 2
8GB Google Nexus was $199 before they ran out of stock, and it's a better phone in every way.


RE: Home Screen
By Xplorer4x4 on 9/5/2013 6:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
I think he means the display, not the camera..
From your link:
Display resolution: WVGA (800 x 480)


RE: Home Screen
By YearOfTheDingo on 9/4/2013 4:37:57 AM , Rating: 2
I have a Lumia 520 on pay-go and, yeah, it's an absolute steal. The phone itself is solid. The software is intuitive and run smoothly. By default it also seem to be very conservative when it comes to data usage over cellular. I put in $30 when I bought it two months ago and I think it'll easily last till the end of the year.


RE: Home Screen
By drumsticks on 9/3/2013 11:31:55 AM , Rating: 5
It's a good thing you can resize tiles to make it less messy if you'd like.


RE: Home Screen
By Arsynic on 9/3/2013 12:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
It's cluttered if you want it to be. If you don't want it to, it doesn't have to be.


RE: Home Screen
By CaedenV on 9/3/2013 2:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
No kidding. I know quite a few people with Lumia 920s and 1020s, and many of them look absolutely nothing alike. Some people use nice clean medium tiles, others have a mess of tiles. Personally I like to have a medium tile surrounded by several small tiles. Like the people/contacts tile surrounded by phone, email, text, and social media tiles. The medium game tile surrounded by a bunch of small tiles which link to my most used games. A medium IE tile surrounded by links to my favorite websites.
It looks a bit like a mess at first, but once you get a system that you like then it works out quite nicely.


RE: Home Screen
By Jeffk464 on 9/3/2013 12:32:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
home screen is one big cluttered mess


if its anything like start screen in win8 you can clean it up


RE: Home Screen
By kwrzesien on 9/3/2013 1:26:22 PM , Rating: 2
LOL - do you see the XBOX tile?! 2x8=16 spaces!!! Because that is clearly more important the email...


RE: Home Screen
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2013 3:06:34 PM , Rating: 2
What a FUC@ING mess! I love how Windows Phone and Windows 8 Metro fans just cannot understand why people have a problem with the UI scheme. Are they blind? It's like Hoarders: Windows Phone edition. And that color scheme is awful!

Sure it's different, I'll give them that. Is this a meaningful and positive innovation? Just no.

Can this at least be customized somewhat IE. made to be more useful and less like random sh*t thrown on the screen? Well probably not, Microsoft is too much like Apple in that regard with their mobile ideology.


RE: Home Screen
By inighthawki on 9/3/2013 4:36:17 PM , Rating: 2
I see you've never used a Windows Phone before. You can customize the layout and size of all of those tiles. I'd bet large sums of money that the tile layout in the screenshot is just to show an example of different tile sizes and layouts, and probably takes no consideration as to what is considered or more less important.


RE: Home Screen
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2013 4:50:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I see you've never used a Windows Phone before.


Ah, quick Google search confirms they just added that feature last year. It wasn't present when I tried Windows Phone.

And yeah no offense, but that's not a very effective comeback when like 95% of the smartphone-buying public hasn't tried it either.

Still no matter how you customize it, it's still an ugly mess.


RE: Home Screen
By inighthawki on 9/3/2013 5:08:54 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Still no matter how you customize it, it's still an ugly mess.

Agree to disagree. I find the layout of the WP start screen to be superior than any of the "ugly mess" I've seen on Android and iOS.

quote:
And yeah no offense, but that's not a very effective comeback when like 95% of the smartphone-buying public hasn't tried it either.

It just goes to show that people like you are dissing the platform and spreading false information that ordinary people see which turns them away from trying it, thinking that it sucks without ever even seeing it in real-world use. Maybe you should refrain from commenting on the usefulness of a product before you use it. (Your opinion on a WP8+ device holds no merit if the last one you tried was WP 7.0)


RE: Home Screen
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2013 5:50:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It just goes to show that people like you are dissing the platform and spreading false information that ordinary people see which turns them away from trying it


Oh come on, that is so low.

If that was true I would own an iPhone right now, because when I first tried Android all anyone ever talked about was how much it "sucked".

I would also probably own Bose speakers *shudder*...


RE: Home Screen
By inighthawki on 9/3/2013 6:21:35 PM , Rating: 2
You might be shocked about how easily ordinary non tech-savvy people are influenced by what people like us say. Even a slight inaccuracy due to not being up to date with what is offered by a platform is taken completely 100% to truth. I know some people who are still convinced that Windows 8 doesn't even have a desktop.

Also maybe my experience was a bit different, but when Android first came out all I heard about was how it looks so cool and new on the new Droid.


Variety is a good thing...
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 10:51:19 AM , Rating: 2
I like the idea of a 1080p large screen WP8 phone... But I don't think this, or things like this are going to help MSkia too much. They need to go back to the drawing board and come up with something that will make people want to switch + get on it and lure more app developers over.




RE: Variety is a good thing...
By stm1185 on 9/3/2013 11:06:48 AM , Rating: 2
I think they have that lure in the Lumia 521.

I spent the $200 up front + $90 a month for the high end Android phone + Verizon service 2 years ago. That contract just ended and I was going to get a HTC One and do T-Mobile's jump program.

But in the store I tried a 521 and I couldn't reason needing more then it offered, or spending that $25 a month for the HTC One or S4.

When you actually have to stare down the $600 cost of the phone, it really makes you think if that screen resolution, apps, and faster SOC makes it worth the 4x cost increase.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 11:31:13 AM , Rating: 2
"I think they have that lure in the Lumia 521."

Clearly they don't because not many people are buying it. There are high and , but also low an Android phones that are dominating the market. They need to do something significantly more than just what the 521 offers to get in the game. Right now, the global 4% marketshare isnt really much.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By drumsticks on 9/3/2013 11:36:24 AM , Rating: 2
The 4% market share doesn't include influence from the 520/521 iirc which just launched recently (it's not included in the latest report rather).

Meanwhile, the Lumia 521 and (I'm pretty sure) the lumia 520 on AT&T gophone remain and have been listed as "top sellers"

I'm not saying we'll have 20% market share by december, but the Lumia 521 is certainly drawing in customers more attractively than a low end android, at least IMO.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 11:47:46 AM , Rating: 2
I hope it does grow... More players is better for competition. I just dont think it will. Not with WP8 and current Nokia hardware. Maybe if WP9 and future hardware has something better than IOS or Android at the time its released.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By BSMonitor on 9/3/13, Rating: -1
RE: Variety is a good thing...
By stm1185 on 9/3/2013 11:58:27 AM , Rating: 2
It's the best selling no contract phone on Amazon. I'd say that is selling well.


By retrospooty on 9/3/2013 12:09:37 PM , Rating: 2
%'s of total phones sales would say otherwise.

Being the highest of one particular small segment (no contract) on one vendor (amazon) that isnt even a carrier isnt really much of anything. At the end of last quarter WP8 in total - all devices from all makers was at 4% worldwide marketshare. That needs to grow to get better dev support and market sway.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By Jeffk464 on 9/3/2013 12:39:03 PM , Rating: 2
the 521 from walmart with the prepaid plan saves a fortune over an android/verizon plan.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By name99 on 9/3/2013 3:57:57 PM , Rating: 2
Right...
The 520/521 are selling so well that Nokia has no desperate need for cash, isn't COMPELLED to sell itself for a song (less than the value of Skype). Oh wait...

Look, it's fine to like an OS or a company for aesthetic reasons, or history or whatever. But don't waste our time making supposedly FACTUAL claims that are clearly BS. If Nokia had great numbers to report on the 520/521 line (or any other line) they'd be telling the world about it, and using that information to get a bank loan.


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By crispbp04 on 9/3/2013 1:51:32 PM , Rating: 2
Clearly they have a winner with the 520/521, but maybe not so much the U.S. market. http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Lumia+520#q...


RE: Variety is a good thing...
By Jeffk464 on 9/3/2013 12:37:19 PM , Rating: 2
yup, the 521 is one heck of a bargain. Just wish it had a 4.5" screen.


Blah
By Stuka on 9/4/2013 1:15:33 PM , Rating: 2
No wallpaper? No thanks. lol




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