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Announcement comes from companies CEO JK Shin

Samsung launched its Galaxy S4 smartphone back in April and the device has proven to be incredibly popular. It took the smartphone about two months to sell 20 million units and four months after launch to hit 30 million units. As the phone has aged and competition increased, it's sales pace has declined.

The Galaxy S4 sold only about 5 million units in August. However, Samsung CEO JK Shin recently stated that over 40 million Galaxy S4 smartphones have been sold globally since the device launched. Considering the phone is been around for about six months, this is an impressive feat for Samsung.

Samsung Galaxy S IV

Samsung has continued to roll out some interesting new products following the launch of the Galaxy S4. Most recently, Samsung unveiled its Galaxy Note 3 and the Galaxy Gear smartwatch. The Galaxy Note 3 has impressed both reviewers and customers; however, the Galaxy Gear smartwatch has proven to be rather unloved in many reviews.

Source: Sammobile



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Hmmm.
By johnnycanadian on 10/24/2013 10:49:08 AM , Rating: 2
I thought the S4 would have sold a LOT more than 40M. The iPhone 5 hit 89M in September:

http://www.statisticbrain.com/iphone-5-sales-stati...

Granted at that point they had 11 months to sell that many 5s but given Sammy's current pace they'll never come close.




RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 10:57:05 AM , Rating: 3
You cant compare the 2. The iPhone is the one phone of the platform for the whole year. The GS4 is one of many from many sifferent makers on the other platform.

Samsung estimated 100 million based on sales of GS2 and GS3 and increasing at that rate, but they didnt factor in all hte other great high end phones taking its sales. xperia Z, HTC One, Optimus G Pro, LG G2, etc. all have great points and make it tough to choose a GS4. I am a good example of that. Looking at LG G2, HTC One and GS4, the choice was simple. LG G2 won by a mile.


RE: Hmmm.
By johnnycanadian on 10/24/2013 11:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
That's fair, I suppose, but Sammy's sales numbers aren't exactly trending higher. That said, I can't fathom why someone would purchase an S4 over a Google edition Nexus. Even if I absolutely "needed" a new handset right now I'd wait until the Nexus 5's hit the channel.


RE: Hmmm.
By quiksilvr on 10/24/2013 11:36:40 AM , Rating: 2
Keep in mind you are talking about the iPhone 5 which has been out for over a year now compared to the GS4 which came out at the end of April.


RE: Hmmm.
By johnnycanadian on 10/24/2013 11:40:39 AM , Rating: 2
Absolutely -- but as I mentioned in my first post looking at the SGS4's sales trend there's no way it'll come close to 89M even at the 11 month point.


RE: Hmmm.
By Rukkian on 10/24/2013 5:09:34 PM , Rating: 2
Same boat here, did not want the Samsung Bloat, went with the LG G2, and it is really an incredible phone.

Comparing iphone to GS4 is silly, but it is still valid in some respects, since the GS4 is really the main flagship for Samsung for the year. While there are plenty of other devices (even from Samsung) it is their main high end device. The Note is a nice phablet, but the sales numbers of that are no where near where the Galaxy S line does.


RE: Hmmm.
By Reclaimer77 on 10/24/2013 5:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
The LG G2 is an incredible phone. But you don't come off as credible when you accuse Samsung of doing the same thing LG is.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/19/lg-g2-revi...

LG's custom UI layer needs a LOT of work. In many areas it's worst than TouchWiz.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 6:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
"LG's custom UI layer needs a LOT of work. In many areas it's worst than TouchWiz."

True, but it's still not as bloated, and more importantly doesn't have the bloatlag that Sammy devices can tend to get.

STill though, day one - rooted it and closed all the LG and Verizon apps. Then adjusted DPI for more screen realities ... The damn thing just flies and the battery life is insane!


RE: Hmmm.
By flyingpants1 on 10/24/2013 6:36:21 PM , Rating: 2
You realise you can wipe all these phones right? Who the hell cares what software comes with it?


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 6:41:32 PM , Rating: 2
I dont care, and I do wipe mine. The context above was about Samsung bloat, so I am assuming we are referring to stock OS. LG is bad, Samsung is even worse and the bloat causes chopiness at times form some users.

I would highly recomend to ANYONE getting any OEM skinned Android phone to go through the effort to kill the bloat... But alot of people dont want to do that. Google edition and Nexus are pretty clean, but OEM's go way too far.


RE: Hmmm.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/24/2013 6:49:36 PM , Rating: 1
You might be surprised how many people will pay $600-$700 for a smartphone and get scared shitless about wiping it. In fact it is jkust a rare few that are willing to take that kind of expensive chance with their phones.

I know if I were a noob at working with these phones, the idea of bricking my expensive phone there would have to be a very, VERY strong reason for me to risk flashing non-factory ROMS with Odin or TWRP and Rooting it.


RE: Hmmm.
By flyingpants1 on 10/25/2013 12:51:14 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah but this is DT not fuckin youtube


RE: Hmmm.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/25/2013 2:35:22 PM , Rating: 2
Your point? I have no idea wtf you are talking about there.


RE: Hmmm.
By ritualm on 10/25/2013 7:03:48 PM , Rating: 2
Well. I paid about that much for my GS4 in July. Stock ROM lasted only an hour before I killed it lol.


RE: Hmmm.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/26/2013 9:53:24 AM , Rating: 2
Same here. But then I know how to un-brick my phones. Most don't.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/24/2013 5:51:31 PM , Rating: 3
The GS4 is the king of high end Android devices, nothing comes close. Competing devices from HTC, LG, Moto, Sony, at best sell 1/10th of what Samsung does. Other Android devices that are selling well don't compete with flagship devices or iPhones, they're low end. That's where most of Android's growth has been and where it continues to be as the high end tops out.

This doesn't mean that other high end Android phones are bad, devices by HTC and LG are better I'd say, its just that nobody has the muscle that Samsung does.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 6:03:16 PM , Rating: 2
I fail to see the relevance of your point. I was saying you cant compare one Android phone to the iPhone in sales #'s. The iPhone is one phone per year on the whole platform, the GS4 is one of many.

Nevermind, look who is posting. Captain soapbox... YEs Takin, the iPhone sells more and earns more and is more prefered by the upper class/wealthy and has wings. Happy?


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/24/2013 6:56:36 PM , Rating: 3
You should learn to relax.

The point is in response to this: "the GS4 is one of many from many sifferent makers on the other platform."

Disregard manufacturer because that is far less relevant than hardware tier. When taking low end devices out of the equation there are only a few relevant names: GS4, iPhone, HTC One. That's the point. The explosion in low end devices has no influence on someone buying an iPhone or a GS4 or an HTC One.

You saying you don't understand this point is like saying you don't understand why eMachines or netbooks don't have any influence on people who buy better hardware. Someone who would buy better hardware clearly has no interest in something low end. If someone is buying a GS4 they're doing it because they are getting better hardware than an Android device that is $100 or free with contract, and they would almost never consider getting such a device.

These are two discreet markets with very low crossover.

Either quality is the driving factor or price is, and rarely do the two meet. The only competition the GS4 has in the Android space is getting absolutely crushed by them. They're literally selling at ten times the rate of their Android competition.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 10:49:22 PM , Rating: 2
You keep thinking that, I am tiring of the same conversation. You are like talking to a wall with a broken record inside of it.

ooh look, a chance to hijack another topic and get back on my soapbox. Oh boy....... Yawn.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/24/2013 11:16:50 PM , Rating: 2
You keep thinking these are based on opinion when its all about hard facts and reality.

But no, your right, GS4 sales are clearly being cannibalized by Galaxy Reverb, LG Mach, and Kyocera Rise sales.

Incredible logic you have there.


RE: Hmmm.
By Shadowself on 10/24/2013 6:37:37 PM , Rating: 2
So you're really trying to get us to believe that the GS4 had all that competition but the iPhone 5 had none of that competition? In its nearly six months it sold significantly less than the iPhone 5's first six months. In just shy of six months the GS4 sold just 4.5 times what the iPhone 5C (truly an iPhone 5 equivalent) and iPhone 5S did in three days. Hmmm, three days versus 181 days. That's 60 times the duration with just 4.5 times the uptake.

I expect the iPhone 5C and 5S sales to fall off radically over the next couple months so I don't expect them to break 100 million for the coming year. BUT the GS4 was often billed (even by many on this site) as the iPhone killer. While I believe the GS4 is a very nice phone, it failed miserably in the iPhone killer role.

Apple's phones, which are all priced in the mid to top end, have the same competition as any other manufacturer's mid to top end. To even imply otherwise is either intentionally misleading or naive.

So far a real iPhone killer has failed to materialize in the marketplace. Maybe we'll see one in 2014.


RE: Hmmm.
By Reclaimer77 on 10/24/2013 7:03:31 PM , Rating: 2
You're making this harder than it has to be. Is that on purpose, or are you just ignorant?

There's LOTS of competition among Android. You aren't going to see a single Android model outsell the iPhone.

And it's not like the Galaxy S4 is the ONLY handset Samsung makes. Even among Samsung's own phones, there is competition there.

As far as "iPhone killer", well that's just hyperbole. You're judging a phone based on some arbitrary statements you've read on the Internet. And sales are your only metric?

The Galaxy S4 clearly trounces the iPhone anyway. Sales don't change that.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/24/13, Rating: 0
RE: Hmmm.
By w8gaming on 10/25/2013 10:37:35 AM , Rating: 2
Why exactly do we so obsessed of having a iphone killer in the first place? Android owns 80% market share and that will get developers to support this platform which is not going away and be always be a thorn on Apple side. This creates healthy competition and at the end all companies have to keep improving and us consumers will benefit. What we don't want to see is one company owning 90% of the market while the rest fight for the 10%.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 11:04:10 AM , Rating: 1
"Why exactly do we so obsessed of having a iphone killer in the first place? Android owns 80% market"

Exactly. I have posted this before but... 80%, vs. all other combined at 20%... It's not about one model, its about flexibility. Better high end phones. Better mid range phones and better low end phones (by default. This is done by supporting more than ONE resolution, DPI, chipset, ONE form factor, etc.

It's dominating because you can do anything with it, from low end cheapo phone to the highest of high end with all bells and whistles, to tablets to smartwatches to (soon to be) SmartGlasses.

If its a conversation about the high end, high end Androids absolutely pound the iPhone into the dust. There isnt even a competition anymore, just fanboys not wanting to admit their beloved platform is a relic.

- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens
- Higher DPI
- Better Edge to Edge display (no giant iBezel)
- Micro SD card
- Removable batteries
- NFC
- 802.11ac
- Mini HDMI port
- Can set default apps
- Back button
- Better Notifications
- Better Voice search (Google Now > Siri)
- Better Mapping software
- Widgets
- Live wallpaper
- Plays HD content without downscaling
- Greater than 5x4 icons
- Multi user support
- Multi Window support
- pop up browser(in a window)
- Wireless charging
- Eye scrolling
- Waterproof models
- Air gestures
- Active stylus support
- Better OS
- Better UI
- Micro USB
- Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware (qwerty models, waterproof models, removable batteries, larger models, smaller models, high end models, mid range models, cheap models)

Some is severe denial will balk at items on this list, but its not about the individual things that THEY may not need, again, its about flexibility to support thing that others MIGHT need. Its a HUGE list that demands respect.

Here is another great thing coming that wont be doable on iPhone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chUtv1kWIg8

signup here https://www.coverscreen.com/


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/25/2013 11:39:47 AM , Rating: 2
Be careful with that list, Mr. TryHard will be here spouting his Apple defense.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 11:59:56 AM , Rating: 2
I know, but I couldn't care less about his useless opinion. The list pisses him off because it bothers him looking at all the things he cant do. He will come in and attack 1 or 2 items on it and try to reduce the huge list to those 1 or 2 things... Whatever, he is just jealous and posting to try and detract from it. Like I said, it's not about the individual things that he doesn't need, its about flexibility to support the things that others do need. If he is happy with his one model with one small, low resolution low PPI screen he can keep it and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

Good luck Mr. TryHard. Keep tryin'


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/25/2013 12:40:20 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 12:47:29 PM , Rating: 2
Nice...

Of course its no iPhone. The iPhone has superior colors to those that you choose on your own, and it has superior software and is made for superior people to do superior things in thier very techncially limited (but still superior) ways. /s


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/25/2013 12:49:17 PM , Rating: 2
Oh right, forgot! Thanks for setting me straight!


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 4:17:22 PM , Rating: 2
you called it. Whiney boy is already at it. LOL


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/25/2013 4:22:52 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, amused :)


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/25/13, Rating: 0
RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/25/2013 4:58:59 PM , Rating: 2
I post a fraction of what you guys do, and I post nothing compared to the amount retro does. I don't get good responses that come from real thought or logic either, just the same tired lists, and when those fail its silly insults.

Yup, amused. :)


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/25/2013 5:28:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I post a fraction of what you guys do
If telling yourself that makes you feel better....


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/25/2013 3:54:13 PM , Rating: 2
The only meaningful thing in your comically massive adorable-in-its-fanboy-devotion list is multi-user support in tablets. Almost everything else is already addressed in software. Fun fact: iOS had upgraded Google Maps and Google Now before Android did. Going off the list, GMail and every other Google app has also had major revisions or launches on iOS first.

Otherwise these things are side-effects of bigger hardware (not everyone wants a 5"+ phone) or useless gimmick features.

Air gestures and eye scrolling are the Kinect of mobile devices, except (amazingly) worse. How can you put those on a list of "positives" without embarrassment?

quote:
- Plays HD content without downscaling


loooooooooool

I'll say it again: "How do video scalers work?"

You really are an ignorant IT guy, aren't you?

quote:
If its a conversation about the high end, high end Androids absolutely pound the iPhone into the dust.


Slower laggy hardware with inferior apps sure sounds way worse!

And I'll say it again, if you want bigger hardware with SD storage flexibility, Android all the way. If you want faster hardware and better software, iPhone.

No platform is perfect, they are all about tradeoffs. It is hilarious that you are such a fanboy over this. What grown man honestly writes out that list? You're like a console fanboy on Neogaf or something.

Cover does look really nice though. Its cool that you guys get one nice app exclusive to the platform or that you don't have to wait years for.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/25/2013 4:01:13 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, I take back what I said since your post was trying to justify this:

quote:
It's dominating because you can do anything with it, from low end cheapo phone to the highest of high end with all bells and whistles, to tablets to smartwatches to (soon to be) SmartGlasses.


No, it is dominating because it is cheap.

That list of features is mostly irrelevant to the majority of Android users out there because about 90% of hardware running Android isn't even capable of doing most of those things.

That list of yours is relevant to a niche that has actually flattened out in growth relative to both the iPhone and the low end Android market (which has EXPLODED).

It is cool that you like the things on your list. However, that list is meaningless in this context given that nearly all Android devices sold either lack most of those features or aren't capable of them.

If you want to talk about why Android is on 80% of devices, start talking about the price and ubiquity of low-end hardware. Those high end features (even the ones that are meaningless because you are a technical ignoramus or you are padding for space) are relevant to a small segment of the market.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 4:17:51 PM , Rating: 2
Jealous much?

Denial is bliss isnt it.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/25/2013 10:41:55 PM , Rating: 3
- He will come in and attack 1 or 2 items on it and try to reduce the huge list to those 1 or 2 things...

Wow, it's as if I scripted that. I cant say I am surprised you missed the point as almost any point is lost on you. Your handle is completely wrong, "MissinYourPoints" fits a lot better. You want to take any and all conversations to the end that your soapbox dictates, mr "I dont care about sales #'s or maketshare, but have literally posted 100's of posts insisting that Android has almost no high end marketshare and all the sales #'s are low end." - AGAIN (again [again{again}]) that isnt the point (dont go on and on about it again, COMPREHEND THAT ISNT THE POINT). Like I said, it's not about the individual things that you doesn't need, its about flexibility to support the things that others do need. That isnt one or two missing things on that list, its a ton of things that your supposed high end phone doesn't do. To quote you on that, read that whole list again and remember this line from you "Ah yes, another DT post defending third-rate tech as "perfect". How totally surprising." OK, now let that line sink in and stop being in denial if you can for just a moment


"Slower laggy hardware with inferior apps sure sounds way worse"

Highly wrong, uneducated comment. Anyone with an ounce of tech know how would be aware of it.

"Cover does look really nice though. Its cool that you guys get one nice app exclusive to the platform or that you don't have to wait years for ."

See, right there tells my you don't know anything at all. On the large list of completely wrong things that you regularly post, that sentence tops it. Completely uneducated and ill though through. As always, your arguments are years old and full of holes. I have gone back and forth with you enough to know you arent stupid. You have a funtional brain, so I am left with only the thought that your are a hopeless clandestine fanboy trying to front like he isnt.

Whatever, I am sick of explaining things to the walled garden that is your mind. Enjoy your little world.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/26/2013 1:55:32 AM , Rating: 1
I completely understand that hardware flexibility and price ranges are an advantage to Android, I've never denied that or argued against it.

The only points I've made are that Android high end sales are a niche of Android's total marketshare and that it is smaller than Apple's, and that the drawbacks to the ecosystem (updates, performance, applications) aren't strong enough to switch me over.

Again, I understand and respect the checks and balances between the two. I totally get why someone would choose Android or iOS.

The only thing that confuses me is your anger and complete inability to accept that your precious is anything but perfect in every way.

Your devotion is fanatical and strange.


RE: Hmmm.
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2013 8:41:20 AM , Rating: 2
And, he is the type who always has to get the last word in...


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/26/2013 10:01:08 AM , Rating: 2
I know... I have seen times where I go back like a week later looking for a post I made and I see this nut had come back 4-5 days after the thread is long over and article days removed from the main page and posts again.

THERE, LAST WORD!. LOL.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/26/2013 8:48:29 PM , Rating: 2
I don't spend every waking moment F5-ing here like the rest of you guys. Sorry.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/26/2013 9:10:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
See, right there tells my you don't know anything at all. On the large list of completely wrong things that you regularly post, that sentence tops it. Completely uneducated and ill though through.


Based on what? The app ecosystem is still the most obvious difference between the two.

Simple staples like Instapaper took years to get a port. There aren't RSS readers anywhere in the same league as Reeder, Reddit browsers like Alien Blue, etc. Games are a foregone conclusion, Blizzard isn't touching Android for Hearthstone, 2K Games still has no plans to port XCom Enemy Unknown to Android, Epic still doesn't make games for Android, Baldur's Gate has been "coming soon" on Android for a full year, there are loads of indie exclusives and board games that aren't getting on Android, and so on.

I know this doesn't matter to you, but every time I see a game announced for iOS all I see are requests for other platforms, but they have to wait.

Even cross-platform apps are generally worse on Android, just look at something simple like Yelp. Google of all companies still releases their major app revisions on iOS before Android.

The app situation is the main reason I'm on iOS and especially the iPad. Sorry that software isn't something you use very much but it is really important to me.

Its like the difference between Windows and Linux.

What blows me away is that I thought the gap was going to close last year. The gap in quality and availability is as wide as its ever been, that honestly surprises me after all this time.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/26/2013 10:01:04 PM , Rating: 1
I mean, Android can't even get an SSH or RDP app on the same level as what's on iOS. What good is a fancy custom launcher or skin if what you're running is second rate?


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/27/2013 10:15:17 AM , Rating: 3
Absolutely clueless and incorrect.

Is that what you found with your few minutes testing on Android? You dont think that you are a BIT more familiar with the app world on the platform you have been with for years and just maybe the the few moments wpnt on Androiod had you draw an early conclusion.

Let me ask you this, what RDP app do you use on IOS? I use 2x and pocketcloud on Android and IOS and find them both exactly the same on both. Is there something better I am missing or are you just full of it as always?


RE: Hmmm.
By Reclaimer77 on 10/27/2013 11:07:50 AM , Rating: 3
He never quantifies anything or provides objective evidence or links to support his statements. Apps are just globally better on iOS, in ALL cases, because he said so.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/27/2013 1:01:37 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, I know. But he finally gave us a specific about remote desktop so I am calling him on it. the new one from Microsoft is pretty good too.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/28/2013 11:31:24 PM , Rating: 2
I always back up what I say.

What do you do. Make up things, don't back up your claims, go off of old information, or make outrageously incorrect statements like "LCDs don't get image retention".

Give me a break


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/29/2013 2:41:42 AM , Rating: 2
What you did below was not backing anything up, it was showing us how totally wrong you are. LOL. Just stop, its getting painful.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/28/2013 11:28:02 PM , Rating: 2
Jump Desktop on the iPad. I have Pocketcloud too, Jump is better.

I use Prompt for SSH.

You didn't answer any of my statements on games, I reckon its because the Android ports actually don't exist.

Say it: "Games don't matter". I know you want to. :)


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/29/2013 2:35:48 AM , Rating: 2
Ummm, ya I wish we had that....https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com....

I repeat, you're familiarity with your platform and you're unfamiliarity with the other shows its face again... Totally clueless. And games? Same thing, you are clueless. You spend so much time with your head buried in IOS you have no idea what is going on outside that world. It works for you, great, noone is expecting you to change but REALLY, stop making idiotic comments about the other side, you just look uninformed as you did here again tonight. Your arguments are years old and invalid.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/29/2013 8:10:13 AM , Rating: 2
Bah, botched the link. Anyhow you don't need the play store link can even clearly see that it the devs website "BUY FOR ANDROID" LOL. http://jumpdesktop.com/


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/31/2013 7:01:46 PM , Rating: 2
Aw, you guys finally got a port.

That's nice.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/31/2013 10:54:06 PM , Rating: 1
That is what you come back with? Completely lame dude. The point is not that Android has the app that you thought it didn't have, the point is that you have no idea what you're talking about with the Android app situation. As I have told you a dozen times, your arguments are a year to 2 years old and don't hold water today.

You use iOS and have been on it for a long time. You are very familiar with its app world, but you don't know anything about what's going on Android. Your comments show it. Like I said above there's no reason for you to change what you use and what works well for you but stop making stupid uneducated and ignorant comments about something you have no idea about. It just makes you look rediculous.

And your ridiculous list of games? There are darn near a million apps and games on both sides. There are thousands and thousands of apps that are available on each but not the other... Congratulations for finding a few. Oh my god you're just reaching anymore to try and save face. Too bad you put your foot in your mouth and lost it so to speak. it's good to see proof though, the argument was getting old and now we know where you're coming from.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/31/2013 7:12:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And games? Same thing, you are clueless. You spend so much time with your head buried in IOS you have no idea what is going on outside that world.


You're not the only one who can make silly lists. Here's what I do know:

Blizzard: Not releasing Hearthstone for Android
2K Games: Not releasing games like XCom Enemy Unknown for Android
Epic: Not porting Infinity Blade series to Android
iD: Still no ports for Android
EA: Most of their games don't have Android ports
Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition: Been "TBA" to Android for a year when it was "coming soon". Can be bought for iOS, Windows, and OS X.
Playdek: The best maker of board and card game ports for mobile devices: http://www.playdekgames.com/game_catalog.php

Android users clamor for ports from Playdek, none of which are anywhere to be seen after all these years. One of the top threads in the r/digitaltabletop subreddit is "what games do you want to see on Android?", something that only exists because of the lack of them.

This is like arguing with a Linux user over the difference in game libraries between it and Windows. Sure there are games, you'll have Angry Birds and such, but a lot of the high quality stuff just isn't there.

I'm not being malicious when I say this, I truly mean it when I say that I'm surprised that more AAA games are still iOS exclusive.

The port of this finally did come out though!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com....

It is one of my favorite games from the last two years. Played the hell out of it on PC and the iOS port is even better. If it works on your Android device you should check it out, its awesome.


RE: Hmmm.
By TakinYourPoints on 10/31/2013 7:16:46 PM , Rating: 2
Oh WTH, the last link from the Play store can't be copied and work properly.

Search for "Frozen Synapse", that game is amazing


RE: Hmmm.
By Reclaimer77 on 10/26/2013 6:49:21 AM , Rating: 2
Add another one to the list: I just remembered that with the Note 3, Android now has the first handset with USB 3.0 support and rapid charging.


RE: Hmmm.
By retrospooty on 10/26/2013 10:05:50 AM , Rating: 3
I know right... The list is starting to get too large and unwieldy. On most monitors you have to scroll to ginish reading it LOL.

http://i.imgur.com/rOcDqan.png


Impressive.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 10:46:43 AM , Rating: 1
That is a lot of phones. You hear alot about this phone not selling well, but that's not quite the issue.

Samsung, for whatever reason, forecasted to sell 100 million GS4's. I don't know what they were thinking on that, WAY too high of an estimate. So its not selling well to the 100 million end goal, but it is still selling extremely well.




RE: Impressive.
By Nortel on 10/24/13, Rating: -1
RE: Impressive.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 10:59:33 AM , Rating: 2
It was an idiotic goal in the first place, regardless of Samsung's planted trolls. No way in hell would that phone hit 100m with all the competition out there. It didn't make sense from day one.


RE: Impressive.
By ven1ger on 10/24/2013 3:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I bought my daughter a Nexus phone because I didn't care to pay that much for a GS4 when the Nexus was a whole lot cheaper. For Android smartphones there are a many different choices to choose from, I didn't feel my daughter needed all the features of the GS4 and so I was able to get her a cheaper smartphone without all the bell & whistles and she is extremely happy with it. And of course, now my younger daughter wants a Note 2/3...sigh.


RE: Impressive.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/24/2013 6:44:05 PM , Rating: 2
While I love my 16GB GS4 to bits, Samsung shot themselves in the foot with this one. Here's how:

Samsung created both 16GB and 32GB versions of this phone and equipped them with MicroSD card slots that can handle another 64GB in both models. The problem is they limited sales of the 32GB version of this phone only to select vendors in the U.S. To date you still can't get a 32GB SGS4 in Canada without smuggling one from an American AT&T store.

While that doesn't appear to be a problem, you need to realize that with all the bloat and crap Samsung loads up their phones with, that 16GB shrinks down to about 7GB of usable storage. To make matters worse, all versions of Android from Ice Cream Sandwich onwards do not allow you to store your apps on external storage. This is a conscious design decision by Google and it will not change for the base Android OS. That pretty much made having such a high capacity MicroSD slot pointless. So those with 16GB SGS4s were pretty much screwed after paying almost $700 for their phones.

Word spread like wildfire.

After a huge amount of complaints and threats of lawsuits from early 16GB SGS4 owners, Samsung released a proprietary patch that allows apps to be moved to external storage. Unfortunately that was too little - too late. The damage was already done. Those who lived in locations that could not get a 32GB SGS4 looked to other options and turned away from Samsung. To this day you still can't get a 32GB SGS4 anywhere in Canada and only AT&T in the U.S. (AFAIK Verizon & T-Mobile don't offer 32GB SGS4s).

To be honest I am surprised that Samsung sold as many of these that it did with this attitude.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my SGS4 for any other phone on the market (except maybe a 32GB Krait-based SGS4 ;) ) since I know how to get around Samsung's screwups. Most owners unfortunately don't my little tricks.


RE: Impressive.
By retrospooty on 10/24/2013 10:39:45 PM , Rating: 2
There's one trick for Samsung phones that all should do. Completely wipe it and load a custom ROM because Samsung's ROMs are sheeeut. wouldn't have the problem with 16gb if there weren't so much bloatware. Absolutely out of control rediculous. takes up all the storage and it takes up all the RAM. That's the reason to note 3 has 3gb ram, to manage the bloat.


RE: Impressive.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/25/2013 10:11:42 AM , Rating: 2
Oh I agree to a point. Samsung's ROMS are far too bloated and eat up all the resources on your phone.

Problem is that most roms available on xda-developers require your phone to first be rooted and have a custom recovery installed. Both of which will void the warranty and bump your customer image counter all by themselves without getting into the nice, lean, custom rom.

The average joe is not going to want to take on this kind of risk, and instead of buying the 16GB SGS4 will look to the 32GB from Motorola, LG, HTC and as much as I hate to say this --- Apple.


RE: Impressive.
By Reclaimer77 on 10/25/2013 11:55:59 AM , Rating: 2
Do you realize how small apps are? Its hyperbole to state that SD cards are now useless.

You're making a non-issue into a travesty.


RE: Impressive.
By Monkey's Uncle on 10/26/2013 9:52:05 AM , Rating: 2
I know that, but perception is still 99% of reality.

Most possible potential SGS4 ownrs don't have the same technical savvy as either you or I. They saw a very powerful 16GB smartphone selling for $600-$700 that has only 7GB of usable storage. The common response was "WTF!!?? No Thanks! I'll buy one of (LG,HTC,Motorola)'s 32GB smartphones".

If Samsung wants to know why GS4 sales are not as strong as the SGS3's, maybe they should reflect on what it is they made available to the world markets when the released them.


About to return mine
By degobah77 on 10/24/2013 10:48:38 AM , Rating: 2
Had mine since July and nothing but problems;

Lock screen PIN stopped accepting my PIN out of the blue, had to factory reset and lost everything. Meanwhile I was still getting texts and emails, just couldn't access the phone to see who.
Nearly impossible to sync email, I have to toggle airplane mode on/off for the phone to actually download/upload anything.
Last weekend, it stopped recognizing my 32GB PNY SD card. The phone didn't even know the card was being put in and removed. Put the same card in my PC and everything is right there, reads it fine and I saved all my pics.
Bought a new 32GB and the phone couldn't format it.

Right now I'm rocking a 16GB card and seems to be stable, but one more crash and this POS is going in the trash.




RE: About to return mine
By jimbojimbo on 10/24/2013 12:57:08 PM , Rating: 2
I've had mine since May and haven't had any problems at all. My 64GB microSD card is still working fine. By the way if you're not backing up everything on your phone in some way or another you're basically OK with losing it all. I just back up my entire microSD card via SyncMe to a NAS share at home so I could care less if I lost my phone or it got wiped.
The PIN thing sounds like it's not the fault of the phone. I have never in my life heard of such a thing. Is it connected to a corporate email system? Sounds more like they reset it or something. My work email, Gmail, and Yahoo mail all sync without any problems.


RE: About to return mine
By degobah77 on 10/24/2013 1:14:07 PM , Rating: 2
It's my personal phone with the same PIN I have always used. I had just unlocked it, texted someone, relocked it. 5 minutes later I got a text reply so I went to unlock it again. "Password incorrect". Oh, I fatfingered it. "Password incorrect". 10 more times incorrect. Reboot, battery out. Typed in 100 more times. Password Incorrect.

It was the phone. I only lost internal memory which was contacts and pics, but I had most of those backed up.


Wow
By Argon18 on 10/24/13, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By themaster08 on 10/24/2013 2:56:05 PM , Rating: 2
What does this post have to do with Microsoft? What is with your post-and-run, blind hatred towards this company?

Seek help.


RE: Wow
By Reclaimer77 on 10/24/2013 5:15:47 PM , Rating: 2
Because lately on Daily Tech all you hear about is how great Windows Phone is and how Samsung and Android are just "cheap plasticy phones" and bla bla bla.

Not even in Nokia's wet dream can it move 40 million halo phones running Windows Phone OS.

There's a new Reality Distortion Field forming...god help us all


RE: Wow
By themaster08 on 10/25/2013 1:56:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Because lately on Daily Tech all you hear about is how great Windows Phone is and how Samsung and Android are just "cheap plasticy phones" and bla bla bla.
That's not it at all. That's simply your opinion.

The simple fact is that Microsoft recently released the Surface 2 and 2 Pro, and then shortly after the Nokia Lumia 1320, 1520 and 2520 were announced, keeping them in the news. They're new device announcements, of course they're going to be reported. Whether the reporter favours Windows phone is a completely different matter, but regardless, they will still be reported, as they have been on every other tech site.

Every single article in which this person posts forms some form of extreme hatred towards Microsoft, even if the article is not in the least bit related.

quote:
There's a new Reality Distortion Field forming...god help us all
Perhaps it's actually due to those who actually own Windows Phones realising that it is a really great OS and a real competitor to Android sans the app library.


RE: Wow
By TakinYourPoints on 10/25/2013 3:01:30 AM , Rating: 2
All WP8 really lacks is the app library. The OS is really nice (in some ways the best mobile UI IMHO) and Nokia's hardware feels great.


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