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Samsung's latest smartphone is a specs monster

Samsung offered a brief teaser of its upcoming Google "flagship" smartphone earlier this week. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus (previously known as the Nexus Prime) will be the standard bearer for Google's Ice Cream Sandwich mobile operating system.
 

Today, Boy Genius Report (BGR) is revealing the full specs of the Galaxy Nexus that will be unveiled next Tuesday:
  • Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
  • 9mm thin
  • 4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
  • TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
  • 1GB of RAM
  • 32GB of built-in storage
  • 5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
  • 1080p HD video capture support
  • LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
  • Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
  • NFC
  • 1,750 mAh battery
According to BGR, the Galaxy Nexus will at least initially be tied exclusively to Verizon's wireless network. BGR also notes that since this is a Google Experience device, you won't have to worry about dealing with TouchWiz getting in the way.

Source: Boy Genius Report





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Battery life?
By Aaron M on 10/6/2011 11:22:44 AM , Rating: 5
Battery life is the most important spec that I'd like to know about this phone. Poor battery life is a non-starter, for me. And if the battery life is tolerable, then I'd see if Ice Cream brings Android within the same ballpark as iOS, in terms of usability.




RE: Battery life?
By niaaa on 10/6/2011 11:29:46 AM , Rating: 2
1750mAh is the biggest bettery I've ever seen on any phone...as a sidenote my Nexus S can see 2 days of heavy use with a 1500mAh battery.


RE: Battery life?
By JLL55 on 10/6/2011 11:37:34 AM , Rating: 2
The EVO 3D also has a 1750 mAh. If you are conservative, you easily get over a day. I am impressed that you get that much on your nexus S - what is the normal batter pack size? 1500?


RE: Battery life?
By niaaa on 10/6/2011 12:26:33 PM , Rating: 2
yep 1500 is standard. I have a European nexus S with a SLCD display if that matters. Heavy use was maybe an overstatement, I browse internet for maybe 30mins a day and watch about 80mins of divx, almost no phone calls.


RE: Battery life?
By 3DoubleD on 10/6/2011 12:49:35 PM , Rating: 2
I'd consider anything that involves the screen being on heavy use for my Motorola Milestone (aka Droid). That's pretty damn good if you get 2 days with that usage.


RE: Battery life?
By MozeeToby on 10/6/2011 1:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
The Milestone's screen is terribly power draining. Even playing SNES games on it is still the screen that takes the majority of the battery life, even with brightness turned all the way down.


RE: Battery life?
By Omega215D on 10/6/2011 4:19:26 PM , Rating: 2
This is where Pentile RGBW comes into play. Brighter screens without being too much of a drain. The original Droid/ Milestone has an IPS with some really powerful backlighting. I remember having to carry an extra battery for trips longer than 10 hours just in case.

There will be quite a power draw on larger screens as well but hopefully the increased battery capacity other optimizations can let the Prime achieve decent battery life.

Surprisingly enough my Thunderbolt has been getting decent battery life before the Gingerbread update and even better (in stand by) after the update. Heavy usage still clocks me in at about 12+ hours of use while moderate to light can get 15+.

I'm looking forward to the HTC Vigor and Samsung Droid Prime, especially now that Verizon has announced a Droid Loyalty program. I don't need a new phone but it's the inner geek inside that likes new electronics...


RE: Battery life?
By Sazabi19 on 10/6/2011 2:50:05 PM , Rating: 2
As a standard batter yes, my extended battery for my Bionic is 2730 or 2760 :) it lasts for quite a while with games, calls, plenty of texting, browsing, and interwebs videos. I never used the regular battery in my Bionic but a buddy that got his the same day is slightly envious of mine. Sure it adds weight and bulk to the phone but it felt too thin for me without the extended, also too light. If you have the chance of getting an extended battery and you live an LTE enabled area I would highly suggest it, you can always just carry for emergencies if you don't like it or sell it later.


RE: Battery life?
By Omega215D on 10/6/2011 4:35:01 PM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah. Brian Klug, if you're reading this forum, where's our Bionic review??

=P


BGR
By itlnstln on 10/6/2011 11:15:18 AM , Rating: 2
I wish BGR woudn't spill the beans on these new devices. They absolutely ruined the iPhone release for me with their spot-on predictions.

Oh wait...




RE: BGR
By CoreGamer on 10/6/2011 12:10:08 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, these are the "geniuses" that said that the iPhone 5 would be sprint exclusive.


RE: BGR
By kittypuncher on 10/6/2011 12:31:08 PM , Rating: 2
Don't be so hasty... the iPhone 5 could still turn out to be a Sprint exclusive.
/s


RE: BGR
By 3DoubleD on 10/6/2011 12:47:22 PM , Rating: 2
I've also heard Ice Cream Sandwich called Android 2.4 (unlikely) and 3.5 (by Anandtech). I'm sort of doubting the jump to 4.0 at this point. So that might be a sign this is bogus... or not, we'll find out on the 11th.

I was also really hoping for a 2000 mAh battery. The more the better really, even if it makes the phone a whopping 10 mm (GHASP!!!).

32 GB of internal storage is nice, but I didn't see any mention of a microSD slot? I hope there still is one. 32 GB + 32 GB would be a nice option for those who want it. I can't understand why SDXC isn't here yet... what's taking so long!


RE: BGR
By MozeeToby on 10/6/2011 1:42:03 PM , Rating: 2
That's odd, I always assumed ICS was going to be 4.0. The 2.x branch was the phone version, the 3.x branch was the tablet version, and Ice Cream Sandwich was meant to be the unification of the two. From a source control standpoint it certainly makes the most sense to me to put it on it's own branch with it's own version number to make maintenance releases on the other branches easier to follow.


RE: BGR
By Sazabi19 on 10/6/2011 2:52:45 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, ICS is going to be 4.0 it has been stated by google before (not sure where and have no link). It does merge both 2.3.4 and 3.2 (1.x and 2.x being phone based and 3.x being tablet based). I am looking forward to getting it on my Bionic and my Asus Transformer.


RE: BGR
By coldpower27 on 10/8/2011 7:34:45 PM , Rating: 2
SDXC is here in it's full form... not in the microSDXC yet though... maybe they are trying to figure out how to do it..for now... or see the market as not ready for it yet... a 64GB micro Card is pretty excessive for mobile storage...


RE: BGR
By Omega215D on 10/6/2011 4:35:32 PM , Rating: 2
Phone Arena is worse.


Purported Specs Released
By KPOM1 on 10/6/2011 12:17:58 PM , Rating: 5
After BGR's iPhone 5 debacle, I doubt we should be looking to them for proof of what the Nexus Prime's specs will be. Hopefully they are wrong about it being a VZW exclusive, and Samsung has some surprises for us.




RE: Purported Specs Released
By gookpwr on 10/6/2011 3:37:07 PM , Rating: 2
I think the specs have to be wrong. Why would the Galaxy Nexus have an inferior SOC to the Galaxy II that contains Samsung's Exynos 4212?? I can't imagine the Nexus using a SOC with a 45nm node. If that is the case I'll be waiting for something that comes in at least a 32nm.


RE: Purported Specs Released
By theapparition on 10/6/2011 4:43:30 PM , Rating: 2
BGR has already been debunked by insiders. Their specs are mostly incorrect.


RE: Purported Specs Released
By Omega215D on 10/6/2011 4:37:54 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't other carriers get the Galaxy SII not too long ago?

It might seem a bit plausible due to someone at Verizon stating that they will be getting a Samsung that would be tailored for them after not receiving the GSII.


I am disappoint.
By SKiddywinks on 10/6/2011 5:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
No, really. Not even SAMOLED+, they even downclocked the OMAP 4460 (from 1.5GHz to 1.2GHz), and while the clock speed bump on the GPU (SGX 540) is nice and welcome, it is still less than a 33% bump, and so I can't see this at all competing with the current flagship, the SGS2, with it's Mail-400. Neither in GPU nor CPU performance, with a worse screen to boot. How is the 540 going to handle that resolution?

You can't call a new phone a flagship if it is worse than the last flagship. I like the curved screen (and 720p, which is impressive to be fair), but other than that, I see no reason at all to go for this over the SGS2. My contract is due in March, and an SGS2 was the logical choice. When I read about this, I started getting excited; maybe we had a contender? That is, until I read the actual specs.

And being tied to Verizon exclusively isn't going to do it any favours either. Not that it effects me, being in the UK, but who knows what kind of similar dealings will be going on my side of the pond.




RE: I am disappoint.
By cmdrdredd on 10/6/2011 6:16:49 PM , Rating: 2
Verizon...

1) didn't get iPhone with AT&T
2) Didn't get Galaxy S 2

So why not Verizon get something? After all they have the fastest data network.


RE: I am disappoint.
By SKiddywinks on 10/7/2011 12:17:52 AM , Rating: 2
Hey, I have no beef with Verizon, I have beef with exclusivity deals in general. I just happen to be commenting on this thread at the moment.


RE: I am disappoint.
By freshmint on 10/6/2011 8:52:23 PM , Rating: 2
These aren't official specs. You seemed to have made up your mind on the device based on this, knowing full well that BGR has been wrong before. The OMAP 4460 isn't on any phone right now, so we have no way to compare it to anything. My best guess, it is downclocked to conserve battery life, but optimized to the teeth and along with ICS, will be faster than the SGS2. If I were you, I would hold judgement until the official announcement on the 11th.


RE: I am disappoint.
By SKiddywinks on 10/7/2011 12:25:05 AM , Rating: 2
I know full well BGR have been wrong before, but they have been correct as well. I was just giving my opinions on these specs. If it turns out to be wrong, no biggy, I will re-evaluate.

Downclocking to save battery life makes no sense when the screen is by far the biggest drain, and they made that thing bigger. Sure, when doing something the CPUs at 1.5GHz are going to be drawing more power than if they were at 1.2GHz, but they would also do it quicker, and shut down sooner. I am sure it would still equal a net power drain, but I would imagine it would be overshadowed by the extra power draw of a 720p, 4.5+ inch screen.

As for ICS and optimisations, that has yet to be seen, but I don't doubt the argument has some merit. Either way, I haven't made up my mind on anything yet. And I won't be passing judgement until my contract is up, much less on the 11th.


Verizon?
By CoreGamer on 10/6/2011 12:05:19 PM , Rating: 2
Why just Verizon? I was about to go trade in my Galaxy SII from AT&T :(




RE: Verizon?
By TheRealArdrid on 10/6/2011 12:43:16 PM , Rating: 2
Same, though in my case it's the SGS (Captivate). Of course, I'm very seriously contemplating jumping to Verizon if they're going to get the Prime as a lengthy timed exclusive. I hate losing my grandfathered unlimited data plan, but I don't hit the 2GB limit as it is, so I'm not terribly concerned about it should it come to pass that I leave AT&T.


RE: Verizon?
By cmdrdredd on 10/6/2011 6:14:12 PM , Rating: 2
Why not just Verizon? AT&T had the iPhone exclusivity for a while...


Thin phone for LTE...
By vortmax2 on 10/6/2011 12:56:58 PM , Rating: 2
I'm wondering how they packed in the dual-chip design required for LTE at only 9mm thick...that's impressive.




RE: Thin phone for LTE...
By Ushio01 on 10/6/2011 1:47:17 PM , Rating: 2
because the phone is still long and wide due to the size of the screen.


RE: Thin phone for LTE...
By vortmax2 on 10/6/2011 3:31:34 PM , Rating: 2
I see that, but the main reason why LTE phones are thicker than the rest is because the required PCB behind the screen. I'd like to see how the internals look on this one.


Was interesting
By Concillian on 10/6/2011 1:59:41 PM , Rating: 2
Verizon exclusive means it's not interesting anymore.

By the time exclusivity agreement ends, 28nm devices will be popping up and this phone will be interesting on zero networks. I hope Samsung got a load of cash from Verizon for the exclusivity.




RE: Was interesting
By AnotherGuy on 10/6/2011 3:10:55 PM , Rating: 2
When is this phone supposed to come out?


RE: Was interesting
By Omega215D on 10/6/2011 4:39:14 PM , Rating: 2
Supposedly sometime within the next 2 months. HTC's Vigor should be out in a week or so. That can change though.


By Ushio01 on 10/6/2011 1:48:45 PM , Rating: 4
BOOOO PenTile screen.




Sorry HTC
By ilkhan on 10/6/2011 9:51:43 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry HTC, if you can't match this device with an equivalent unit with sense by x-mas you are going to lose my preferred brand status.

Samsung is just kicking your ass all the way around the block lately. These specs are amazing.




5mp?
By AMDftw on 10/6/11, Rating: -1
RE: 5mp?
By niaaa on 10/6/2011 11:20:23 AM , Rating: 5
lens quality > megapixel number. The numbers are just for the hype.


RE: 5mp?
By MrTeal on 10/6/2011 11:36:12 AM , Rating: 5
I don't get the drive to have such high MP counts in a phone, anyway. The lenses aren't high quality enough to approach even a good P&S camera, and the extra pixel density just hurts low light performance even with a good microlensing system.

Even then the extra pixels might be a benefit if the majority of people if they kept their images at the original size used high quality compression, but the vast majority of people aren't using a camera phone for serious photography. Once the image is resized and compressed for upload so that you don't have to send 3MB for each image, the benefit evaporates. Having a lower resolution sensor of the same size and with the same glass will often give you a better image if you have to reach a certain filesize for upload.


RE: 5mp?
By JLL55 on 10/6/2011 11:39:29 AM , Rating: 3
Bingo! Give this man a star. Often the higher MP makes people feel happy that they are getting the best camera mp... regardless of how it looks. I have seen reviews on this site and other tech sites showing that on such a small CMOS and as you said not the best lenses, the noise level is through the roof. Good post!


RE: 5mp?
By retrospooty on 10/6/2011 11:52:01 AM , Rating: 1
"I don't get the drive to have such high MP counts in a phone, anyway. The lenses aren't high quality enough to approach even a good P&S camera"

Exactly... A camera in a phone is nice to have, but any spec over 1-2megapixels is just fluff.


RE: 5mp?
By aegisofrime on 10/6/2011 12:34:57 PM , Rating: 5
I find the 8MP on my SGS2 pretty effective though. Here's a pretty nice (IMHO) photo I took a few days ago.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7718/201110020944...

Quite decent, if I say so myself.


RE: 5mp?
By Solandri on 10/6/2011 4:47:15 PM , Rating: 5
I'm sorry, but that just reinforces OP's point. Here's a 8MP pic I took (for a "found dog" poster) in 2005 with my then 8MP DSLR (Canon 20D). I picked this pic because (1) it was similar in composition to yours, (2) the camera was 8 MP, and (3) it was a JPEG straight from the camera (I normally shoot RAW). No additional processing has been applied.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17801522/IMG_6799.JPG

You can see how much clearer and more detailed it is than your smartphone pic. That is the OP's point. The 8MP pics you get from phone cameras and many digicams simply don't contain 8MP of information. The optics and small sensor are incapable of resolving that much detail. They're empty pixels added because marketing wanted a bigger number on the sales brochure. I'd have to scale down the cat pic by about 50% (2 MP) to make it look as clean as the dog pic.


RE: 5mp?
By cmdrdredd on 10/6/2011 6:12:43 PM , Rating: 3
You are comparing a DSLR to a point and shoot anything? WTF...


RE: 5mp?
By Solandri on 10/6/2011 6:38:45 PM , Rating: 2
To demonstrate that the optics in the point and shoot/camera phone can't generate 8 MP of data.


RE: 5mp?
By Roffles on 10/6/2011 6:48:53 PM , Rating: 2
His entire point was to compare to a DSLR. Look at both photos at 100% zoom and notice which camera is capable of using all 8MP and which one is not. The point being that small optical sensors on camera phones are not advanced enough to use all 8 megapixels (limited aperture, ISO and shutter speed). If you were to take that cat picture and reduce it to 5-6 megapixes, it would only then begin to resemble the quality of what you get on a DSLR at the full 8MP. Conclusion: megapixels on phones are just a number and a marketing gimmick.


RE: 5mp?
By aegisofrime on 10/6/2011 8:44:07 PM , Rating: 2
I fully get your point. Logical and coherent post as always Solandri. Thanks! :)


RE: 5mp?
By Fost04mach on 10/6/2011 7:26:50 PM , Rating: 2
That was my thought too, unfortunately, I can tell a difference between HTC's 8mp cameras and samsung's 5mp cameras. I have an epic (5mp) and the Evo camera (8mp) is way better. I don't know if it's the mp or not, but I highly doubt it's a better lens.

Knowing this is samsung though, this phone will come with android 2.2, with a promise of 4.0 shortly after release, and after half the world moves to android 5.0, Samsung will finally release an upgrade. Possibly to 2.3 or 3.0. After 5-10 leaked upgrades/beta tests.


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