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Hiroshi Sakamoto  (Source: at7addak.com)
Sony VP mentioned an E3 announcement, but said a surprise may come in the next few months

After releasing the PlayStation 3 console just over six years ago, it looks like Sony is ready to launch its successor as early as this spring.

Hiroshi Sakamoto, Sony's vice president of home entertainment, recently gave some vague details about when we'll finally see the PlayStation 4 in an interview with Chilean site Emol. According to Sakamoto, the PS4 could make an appearance as early as May of this year.

However, Sony's VP was asked whether the new console could make an earlier entrance within the next few months.

"That's still a big secret, but our friends are preparing Sony PlayStation," said Sakamoto in the interview. "I can only say that we are focused on the E3 gaming event, scheduled for June. [An] announcement may be [made] in that minute or even earlier in May."

It is rumored that the PS 4 will have a custom chip based on AMD's A8-3850 with a quad-core 2.9GHz processor and a 1GHz graphics card with 1GB memory.

Source: CNET



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benjamin button
By Nortel on 1/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: benjamin button
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 1:49:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
that's a 5 year old game
that still has no real competition and probably won't have any in the next 5 years too (metro 2033 is the only rare exception so doesn't count)


RE: benjamin button
By OnyxNite on 1/16/2013 2:06:33 PM , Rating: 3
And why is that?
Because developers primarily target consoles and then port to the PC. So if the next gen consoles are weaker then current budget PCs then there is going to be no real advance in PC gaming tech for the foreseeable future.


RE: benjamin button
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 2:10:53 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
there is going to be no real advance in PC gaming tech for the foreseeable future
Crytek is laughing hard at you dude. Have you ever heard about something called Crysis 3?


RE: benjamin button
By OnyxNite on 1/16/2013 2:25:14 PM , Rating: 1
Last I checked Crysis 3 runs on the PS3 and Xbox 360 with their dated graphics capabilities. Ever since the first one CryEngine development has focused on bringing the features down as best they could to weaker hardware (and simplifying development) not raising the bar on graphical capabilities. Support for features that REQUIRE a directX version greater than 9.x is just tacked on at the end as an afterthought. Real advances will only come when they start developing things from the ground up to use these capabilities which means they won't be able to run on modern day consoles. Consoles are where the money is, a fact Crytek learned with Crysis, and so now they develop for the limited console specs as well.


RE: benjamin button
By Nortel on 1/16/2013 2:30:58 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Last I checked Crysis 3 runs on the PS3 and Xbox 360


Take a look at comparison screenshots of PC running "high quality" vs PS3/Xbox. They cut down on the quality substantially, and I mean substantially .


RE: benjamin button
By OnyxNite on 1/16/2013 2:45:28 PM , Rating: 3
But the core graphics pipeline remains DirectX 9. There was a substantial changes in the core capabilities between DX 9 and 10 alone which modern consoles are unable to handle. Crysis 3 is still fundamentally a DirectX 9 game with optional more modern DirectX enhancements. Sure those enhancements can make a substantial visual difference but the game is still fundamentally a DirectX 9 game. I'd really like to eventually see DirectX 11+ games get made but if consoles don't push the boundries developers are going to keep targeting older versions because consoles are where the money is.


RE: benjamin button
By geekman1024 on 1/16/2013 9:40:04 PM , Rating: 5
fundamentally, this is a fundamental comment on fundamentality.


RE: benjamin button
By maugrimtr on 1/17/2013 11:32:00 AM , Rating: 2
When I read those rumoured specs I almost fainted.

But seriously, this is below-budget PC territory - about to be advertised and marketed as the greatest advance in Human history. Worse, people will buy into it and spend a small fortune buying overpriced games. Launch price for the PS3 was $500 I think...


RE: benjamin button
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 11:43:10 AM , Rating: 3
Yeah, people pay quite a lot for convenience and comfort, Apple has proven it a long ago.


RE: benjamin button
By SPOOFE on 1/16/2013 2:36:23 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
here is going to be no real advance in PC gaming tech for the foreseeable future.

PC graphics tech. We've had more than enough computational horsepower to make amazing games for decades now. T3h Gr@f1xXx W@nk needs to end.


RE: benjamin button
By OnyxNite on 1/16/2013 2:59:48 PM , Rating: 2
Well heck then, why even release new consoles. If we've had enough computational horsepower to make amazing games for decades now then why even bother with the PS3 let alone the PS4. We should all be happy with the decades old PS2 still. Creative developers can make amazing games on almost any hardware but each new generation of Playstation has traditionally push the boundries of what hardware was capable of doing at it's launch. The rumored PS4 does not. So what is going to make people throw out their existing console with their existing library of games to buy something that isn't backwards compatible and doesn't push the boundries beyond what a budget PC can already do. Just keep your old console or buy a budget PC.


RE: benjamin button
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 3:47:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
keep your old console or buy a budget PC
Most people are tech illiterate and don't know how to turn on a PC, so they'll keep buying new consoles since these are so much simpler to operate


RE: benjamin button
By ianweck on 1/16/2013 5:55:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
isn't backwards compatible


Do you know this to be true?

quote:
doesn't push the boundries beyond what a budget PC can already do.


Doesn't matter, people buying a PS4 probably don't care much about what a budget PC can do, only how the PS4 compares to the PS3. I'm assuming.


RE: benjamin button
By ianweck on 1/16/2013 6:07:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
isn't backwards compatible


Nevermind, I see why you said this now.


RE: benjamin button
By artemicion on 1/16/2013 6:36:24 PM , Rating: 2
You're being facetious, but ironically you make a point that a lot of consumers agree with. Personally, I'm dreading the release of the PS4/Xbox720 because it means money spent upgrading to a newer platform for features I don't want. Current gen graphics are fine by my standards and I'd rather not face the prospect of dropping $300-$400 to upgrade or being left in the dust.


RE: benjamin button
By epobirs on 1/17/2013 1:34:24 AM , Rating: 4
Don't be a slave to what other people are doing and you can save a lot of money. I waited nearly two years on both the Xbox 360 and PS3. I had a huge amount of games on older machine still waiting to be played and by the time I got the newer consoles they were in their second or third hardware revision and had substantial libraries of heavily discounted games.

There is no shame in having lesser funds for luxuries like gaming but spending beyond your means just because others are is something deserving of ridicule.


RE: benjamin button
By xti on 1/17/2013 5:51:31 PM , Rating: 2
he said you poor!


RE: benjamin button
By SPOOFE on 1/17/2013 3:53:49 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Well heck then, why even release new consoles.

Because things like "recouping investment" exist in the real world.

Answer me this: Why is it so bad that Crysis (or arguably Metro 2033) stays the top graphics dog for five years? Five years is not a very long time. What sort of rush are you in? Think there's not going to be any more games in five years? The hell is wrong with you, you panicky Chicken Littles?

quote:
The rumored PS4 does not.

I have no idea what the PS4 will or won't do, and neither do you, you windbag.

The notion that we have to constantly push the GRAPHICS envelope is what cripple PC gaming in the late '90s. I think more and more gamers are accepting that design and gameplay are more important that MOAR SHADURRZZZ. It's sad that people criticize consoles for holding "game development" (read: fancy eye candy), because the truth is they're being done a service with an environment where the technological leaps are more granulated.

Take a deep breath, kids. It's not like technology doesn't advance. It's just not advancing at the rate of new GPU releases, and frankly, GOOD. In an industry where it could take years to make an excellent, polished, AAA game, I'd hate to think how much it would screw with things if developers had to constantly shift their target hardware reqs. Oh wait, I SAW THAT, it was called the friggin' '90s, and it sucked.

Goodbye, bad old days.


RE: benjamin button
By mcnabney on 1/17/2013 9:54:04 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with most of your post, but it is notable that a game remains at the top for half of a decade in an industry that grows as rapidly as CPU and GPU technology. Crysis has stayed on top not because it was so gosh-darn good, but because the entire industry decided to stay within the technological confines of a console generation. While that is all fine and good for the console industry - it is really a slap in the face to the PC industry because the software developers are effectively saying - you don't matter at all and we will continue to release games to you as a side-note.


RE: benjamin button
By OnyxNite on 1/17/2013 10:31:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Answer me this: Why is it so bad that Crysis (or arguably Metro 2033) stays the top graphics dog for five years? Five years is not a very long time. What sort of rush are you in? Think there's not going to be any more games in five years? The hell is wrong with you, you panicky Chicken Littles?

I'm not in a rush and there is nothing wrong with a great game remaining popular for any number of years but if instead of a game being good or not your metric is "top graphics" then a game remaining at the top of a technical metric such as that for 5 years is a bad sign for the industry that metric represents (in this case the graphics industry). Competition leads to innovation and if only player stays on top for a long time it is a sign there is little to no innovation and the industry stagnates.

quote:
I have no idea what the PS4 will or won't do, and neither do you, you windbag.


Do you know what "rumored" means? What part of me saying "The RUMORED PS4 does not." lead you to believe I was in any way saying I knew what the PS4 will or won't do?

The PC gaming industry was far stronger in the 90's when you argue the graphics race was crippling it than it is now when the developers instead are targeting the much weaker consoles and then just tweaking games for PCs. I'll take the graphics race over what we have today any day but really with things like Kickstarter and GoG now you'll get the interesting new gameplay innovations from the crowd sourced and indy areas that weren't as viable in the 90s at the same time you have the big boys pushing the graphically demanding AAA titles so things could potentially there could be a better balance. Just because you CAN have some games pushing the graphics envelope doesn't mean you can only get games that do. While I may buy Minecraft or back indy Kickstarter projects I'd also like to get a game here and there that really pushes the boundries of what modern hardware can do.


RE: benjamin button
By RufusM on 1/16/2013 2:13:09 PM , Rating: 1
yes, it wouldn't make a very fast gaming PC because of the overhead required by Windows and the various abstraction layers.

Consoles have consistent hardware so coding can get down to a much lower level offering higher performance for the specifications. Also, consoles only need to push pixels for 1080p (2K) resolution unless they're targeting 4K displays.

For example, Crysis was published for the Xbox 360 and it looks pretty good. It's not super high res but it's all there and it has better lighting than the original since it runs on CryEngine 3, also used by Crisis 2.


RE: benjamin button
By Nortel on 1/16/2013 2:37:21 PM , Rating: 2
All modern consoles run on an operating system... that is always running even when gaming. These console OS' have the very same abstraction layers, typically a lightweight linux kernel.

Many current Xbox games like battlefield only run at 30fps and at 720p(!). When you display 1080p, the 720p rendered image is upscalled to 1080p but it still only renders the screen at 720p and still only pushes 30fps.


RE: benjamin button
By Argon18 on 1/16/2013 3:30:11 PM , Rating: 1
LMAO, nobody is claiming a console doesn't have an OS. The assertion, which is true, is that a console doesn't have a bloated multi-purpose desktop OS like Windows. It has a very lean lightweight embedded OS, and that allows for better application performance on the same hardware.


RE: benjamin button
By mckirkus on 1/16/2013 2:38:13 PM , Rating: 2
Next gen consoles are reportedly going to remain capped at 30FPS. This is also vastly better than current generation consoles which some would argue are sufficient. Keep in mind that this will likely cost much less at launch than the PS3/XBox 360 which were released in a better economy.


RE: benjamin button
By Nortel on 1/16/2013 2:49:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Next gen consoles are reportedly going to remain capped at 30FPS.

The industry showing a big middle finger to the customer... I play borderlands 2 (on PC) at over 100fps on a 22" 120hz Samsung. In the year 2019 Sony expects customers to be happy with worse graphics than we had 5 years ago for the PC and only running at 30fps? Are people actually going to buy this trash and still pony up $60 for a game?


RE: benjamin button
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 3:32:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Are people actually going to buy this trash and still pony up $60 for a game?
Most people are tech illiterate and don't know how to turn on a PC so yes, they are.


RE: benjamin button
By piroroadkill on 1/17/2013 4:05:44 AM , Rating: 2
Well, exactly. That's you get with consoles these days.
You used to get something premium that was not really comparable to the PC, but now you just get poorly rendered versions of stuff you could be using your PC for.


RE: benjamin button
By ianweck on 1/16/2013 6:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The industry showing a big middle finger to the customer...


To the customer, or you?

quote:
Are people actually going to buy this trash and still pony up $60 for a game?


Probably be closer to $65 by then.


RE: benjamin button
By TakinYourPoints on 1/16/2013 4:40:23 PM , Rating: 2
That isn't how developing for a fixed platform works. Developers can milk that sort of thing for far longer because they learn to optimize for hardware over long periods of time. This is very different from optimizing for a platform with higher overhead like the PC that is a moving target.

Compare a release title for the PS3 like The Bouncer with a later release like God Of War 2. GOW2 looked so good that it stood toe to toe with XBox 360 games that were coming out at the same time. They were squeezing every last drop of blood from that ancient PS2 hardware, but they did it. The same thing is happening now, compare Halo 3 with the newest one, GTA 4 with the expansions, and GTA4 with the release films of GTA5. This is all on ancient hardware with only 512MB of RAM.

I'm mainly a PC guy when it comes to games, haven't fired up my 360 in weeks and I mainly use my PS3 for Blu Rays. That said, looking at raw hardware specs hasn't worked with consoles before and it won't work now. Optimizing for a static platform is a much different game than what happens on PCs.


RE: benjamin button
By epobirs on 1/17/2013 1:45:44 AM , Rating: 2
There is a long history to this. You'll see the best of a platform when it has to compete with much more powerful new platforms. What they squeezed out of the Commodore 64 in its last years as the Amiga became the top gaming platform was pretty amazing.

I'd argue that for someone who hasn't had a console for a long time and wants to get back into it, now is a great time to buy a PS3 or Xbox 360. Huge libraries at low prices. Especially on the PS3 side where they've been taking advantage of the Blu-ray format to release collections of HD remakes of PS2 classics on a single disc. I just started playing the Jak & Daxter collection last night. Polygon counts onthe models were pretty low but in general it looked great and the gameplay was still excellent after all these years. Not bad for a title that can be easily found for $20 or less.

Wait for the new machines to mature, getting decent libraries and reduced prices on the early titles. Then consider whether the price is right.


RE: benjamin button
By TakinYourPoints on 1/17/2013 7:21:19 PM , Rating: 2
The C64 example is a great example, the differences between a C64 game from 1982 and 1988 was huuuuuuge.

Rattling off raw specs doesn't make much sense with static platforms, the whole point is that developers get better and better out of optimizing specifically for them. By the end of its lifecycle it starts to overlap with the initial wave of next-gen titles.

Good call on picking up an old system as well, all three have such amazing libraries that can be had for cheap these days.


Lousy Specs
By Flunk on 1/16/2013 1:49:27 PM , Rating: 2
If this thing really comes out with an A8 and Radeon 6670 it's not going to be very powerful. That's less powerful than the Geforce 640M or 650M laptop GPUs. The A8 is not very good either.




RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 1:59:13 PM , Rating: 4
thing is AMD is (and always been) a champion in bang for the buck department, unlike Intel, and this is exactly what Sony needs for their new console. not the fastest turbo durbo hardware from Intel that is seriously overpriced, but the cheap and fast enough stuff from AMD, the company who knows how to build fast chips for much lower price than Intel. besides Bulldozer was pwning best Intel chips in heavy multithreaded tasks and this is where console gaming is headed. probably Sony with their multithread crazy Cell chip noticed that trend too and decided that AMD is not only cheap but best in heavy threading too. no wonder they went with Bulldozer or something


RE: Lousy Specs
By OnyxNite on 1/16/2013 2:19:34 PM , Rating: 1
AMD might not even survive 2013. As for the bang for the buck department that would be ARM not AMD and that would have at least given the compatibility with the PS Vita. Sure AMD is bang for your buck WITHIN the x86 compatible world but x86 compatibility means nothing to the PlayStation brand. If they weren't going to stick with a Power based architecture (like the Cell) they should have at least gone for something like an ARMv8 based SoC with integrated Rogue GPU and a separate nVidia Kepler or AMD Southern Islands based graphics chip. Then they could run it in low power compatibility mode to run shared PS Vita/PS4 downloadable games (with the AMD/nVidia GPU disabled) and ramp it up to 64bit full speed CPU with the AMD/nVidia GPU enabled (and used the SoC GPU for OpenCL/physics/etc.) for the disc (BDXL?) based PS4 games.


RE: Lousy Specs
By nafhan on 1/17/2013 12:42:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
AMD, the company who knows how to build fast chips for much lower price than Intel.
I don't think that's true. AMD is the company that's willing to sell what are - quite likely - MORE EXPENSIVE to build chips at a lower price. The "bang for the buck" has to do with end user pricing and performance NOT AMD's costs.

I don't think it's completely unreasonable to believe that Intel could provide competitive (or better) pricing for a volume customer such as Sony; they just don't want to for whatever reason. That reason is probably Intel could make more money selling chips to someone else.

It's also possible that Sony may have gone with AMD for GPU related reasons, rather than price.

Also curious: what's happening in console gaming that's going to make it "heavily multithreaded" all of a sudden?


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 12:51:55 PM , Rating: 2
The 8-thread Cell CPU in PS3. Ever heard of SPU threading libs?


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/16/2013 3:19:42 PM , Rating: 2
The A8 is plenty for a console, the GPU does seem a bit low. They said they are targeting 4k gaming, so if that GPU does it, they rae planning on dumbing down the image quality like current consoles. Aaaugh, that sucks. The texture quality is so incredibly bad on consoles. Hopefully the 6670 is not correct, or is an early sample and the final will have something better.


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 7:26:31 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
GPU does seem a bit low
You don't even know the number of shader units and you already know it's low? Kinda similar to how you did know squat about RIM and were proclaiming it "low" too, don't you think? The similarity is startling eh :)))


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 7:45:40 AM , Rating: 2
480. The discussion was about the report of a Radeon 6670 you jackwad. That's an existing product with known specs. To be specific its a previous gen mid range card.

The only startling similarity here is your lack of reading comprehension and general human etiquette.


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 11:49:03 AM , Rating: 2
There's no mention of 6670 in that original CNET article everybody refers to, so keep dreamin RIM-sale-style nutso :P


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 12:33:42 PM , Rating: 2
Read the thread you are replying to. It starts with the title "Lousy Specs". I never said it came with a 6670 that. I was replying to someone else that said it. I consider it a rumor, nothing more. Its not announced. If it comes with that, its pretty lame, that is all I was saying.

I don't know what you are trying to prove here, but you missed completely... again.


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 1:07:58 PM , Rating: 1
Some lamer mentioned 6670 out of his a$$ and you happily reported that "GPU is low", then before that some similar idiot reported another strange fantasy about RIM and you were happy to run around with it just the same. This is a bad behavioral pattern dude, you got to break it sooner or later ;) When will you stop running around with rumors spread by some lame idiots?


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 1:49:35 PM , Rating: 2
better luck next time Pirks. You missed.


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 1:52:23 PM , Rating: 2
yeah I hope next time you'll have better luck avoiding running around with lame a$$ postings, duly noted retro


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 2:09:59 PM , Rating: 2
That's what's funny about you Pirks... You have reading comprehension issues and regularly misunderstand points, then you fly off the handle about something that you have misconstrued in your head that isn't even a real thing... Even when it's pointed out for you after the fact you still don't get it. At least you are consistent, I'll give you that.

Take your angry pills and come back down.


RE: Lousy Specs
By CarbonJoe on 1/17/2013 12:54:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
you jackwad

quote:
lack of general human etiquette.


Pot, meet kettle.


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 1:00:26 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think you know Pirks history. He is the resident bratty 12 year old of AT/DT.


RE: Lousy Specs
By Pirks on 1/17/2013 3:22:02 PM , Rating: 2
If you guys listen to old senile retrotroll who doesn't know basics about tech and fails to understand simple things all the time - you'd better stop listening :) Listening to him will do you no good. He failed hard with his RIM "predictions" and now he repeats the same by calling PS4 GPU "low" just because some other idiot said somethig about 6670 that he pulled outta his a$$. Parroting RIM-bashing idiots did not teach him anything useful, unfortunately.


RE: Lousy Specs
By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 3:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
You are absolutely nuts. Reread above. I didnt predict anything. I was simply saying If its a 6670, its weak. I also said "Hopefully the 6670 is not correct, or is an early sample and the final will have something better." It was just part of a discussion.

The assertion that you think I am "predicting" the PS4 will be weak or even implying that the 6670 will be in it is where you left reality.


RE: Lousy Specs
By mevans336 on 1/16/2013 7:58:21 PM , Rating: 2
The processor is largely irrelevant in today's gaming market. Take a look at this article posted a few days ago on Anandtech. An old dual-core Intel E6400 can push almost 30fps at 2560x1440 in Metro2033 as long as it's paired with the right graphics card. In the article, he used a 7970 and a GTX580. For comparison, the i7-3770k only pushed 33.47fps with the same card.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6670/dragging-core2d...

The main advantage to going with something like an A8/6670 is if they need to refresh the hardware, just swap the chips. They're commodity chips after all.


holy #!##!!!
By Pirks on 1/16/2013 12:55:32 PM , Rating: 1
they are going back to x86??!!! no no no I'm dreaming, I'm dreaming, nooooo!!!




RE: holy #!##!!!
By Mizerable on 1/16/2013 12:56:36 PM , Rating: 2
Back? When were consoles ever x86?


RE: holy #!##!!!
By SeeManRun on 1/16/2013 1:00:05 PM , Rating: 3
Xbox was x86.


RE: holy #!##!!!
By geekman1024 on 1/16/2013 9:45:01 PM , Rating: 3
That could be a good thing on the programmer/game developer side, though. x86 is so far, the easiest computer to program. Power PC is a nightmare, ARM is no better than that.


RE: holy #!##!!!
By Roffles on 1/16/2013 1:04:10 PM , Rating: 2
How many watts would a system like this be chewing on during game play? I wonder.


RE: holy #!##!!!
By dubldwn on 1/16/2013 1:11:30 PM , Rating: 2
126W for the 3850 but ~ double that for asymmetric crossfire.


RE: holy #!##!!!
By dubldwn on 1/16/2013 1:19:06 PM , Rating: 2
ooops a 6670 uses much less power than I thought. < 200W for the whole system easy.


RE: holy #!##!!!
By nafhan on 1/17/2013 11:15:06 AM , Rating: 2
I know the article here mentions a desktop part, but it seems like they'd probably use mobile parts or underclock to hit better power/heat numbers.

If they use mobile AMD parts, they could easily build something significantly faster than the PS3 while staying under 100 watts, total.


No hardware hype?
By TerranMagistrate on 1/16/2013 1:35:43 PM , Rating: 3
No Cell processor / Emotion Engine-esque hype this time around? Console releases just aren't what they used to be.




RE: No hardware hype?
By edge929 on 1/16/2013 1:48:10 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the same thing. It seems gamers have caught up to technology. At least Sony isn't insulting us by shoving marketing BS down our throats. "Turbo-Cell Processor" = $80 AMD A8-3850. "Emotion Engine" = $65 Radeon 6670.


RE: No hardware hype?
By piroroadkill on 1/17/2013 4:08:10 AM , Rating: 2
The Emotion Engine in the PS2 was the CPU, not the GPU, the GPU was Graphics Synthesizer.

Not that it matters, I see what you're getting at. I agree, no passion in console marketing these days. Bring back the 90s..


Weak specs....
By tayb on 1/16/2013 2:15:50 PM , Rating: 2
If the mentioned specs are real this machine will be pretty weak. I guess Sony is attempting to reduce the up front costs and release a new console in the $300 price range.




RE: Weak specs....
By haukionkannel on 1/16/2013 2:46:08 PM , Rating: 3
Well if the rumours are true... Both companies MS and Sony both are targeting to cheaper consoles than next time, so it allso mean cheaper and not so powerfull hardware (relative to the release time) as they did have last time.
Good thing is that they will be cheaper and allso don't run so hot from the beginning. The bad thing can be that PC gaming will remain the lonely king of the hill with poor console ports allso in near (and far) future.
The "good" thing may allso be that Wii will not be so far behind as last time when these will be released. So more balanced development options.


Consoles are optimised
By SierraMercury on 1/17/2013 3:48:50 AM , Rating: 2
The people cribbing about the A8 and '6670' are, maybe, not realising that consoles run on software optimised for the given hardware. They pull the maximum given performance from the processor and graphics unit.

Even with the bull hardware in a ps3 it plays all modern games with reasonable textures, frames and resolution. Trying playing the same game on a home made pc with similar hardware, the game/s wont even boot.

I have an old (in 2013) pc that is starting to struggle to play new-gen games. But my ps3 still plays them acceptably well.

I do really hope we get much better graphics and performance from the console. Till then i'm saving on a new cpu unit.




By inperfectdarkness on 1/17/2013 7:02:47 AM , Rating: 2
...the PS4 will have specs roughly equal to the Wii-U, slightly faster CPU clock.

Can we now dispense with the "underpowered" BS? Games are being developed at 1080p. There's no need to sell a console with $900 worth of graphic power when $200 of graphic power can't even be taxed by the software offerings of late.

I hope that "exclusives" from 3rd parties dies out.




expensive
By josh134 on 1/24/2013 3:33:14 AM , Rating: 2
Still much more expensive than http://www.iusedtobebald.com/Hair-Loss-Reviews/pro... while the configuration are still the same.




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