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If true, this move would bring the iPhone's screen size more in line with the Android competition

Whenever there is a new iPhone waiting in the wings, the rumors of purported features tend to fly fast and freely. One rumor that seems to pop up every year -- but never comes to fruition – is the use a screen larger than 3.5”.
 
According to the Wall Street Journal, the sixth generation iPhone will buck this trend and will come with at least a 4” display. The move would put the iPhone more on par with its Android-based rivals that long ago went with 4.3” to 4.65” (and sometimes larger) screens. 
 
Those that have defended Apple’s decision to stick with a 3.5” screen have made the case that it’s harder for your thumbs to navigate the entire surface of the display when holding the phone with one hand.
 
“There is no doubt that some people would prefer a bigger screen. But nor is there any doubt that many other people would not. I wouldn’t,” wrote Daring Fireball’s John Gruber back in October. “I like to see things get smaller, not bigger. Bigger is not necessarily better. Apple decided on the optimal size for an iPhone display back in 2006. If they thought 4-inches was better, overall, as the one true size for the iPhone display, then the original iPhone would have had a 4-inch display.”
 
However, if the WSJ sources are correct, those who think a 4” or larger screen size for an iPhone is “all wrong” will have to jump onboard or just stick with the previous generation models.

Sources: Wall Street Journal, Daring Fireball



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Fanbois
By Gio6518 on 5/16/2012 9:27:52 AM , Rating: 5
Now all the crApple fanbois that said 4 inches was too big that iphone 3.5 was a perfect size will change their tune saying 4 in. Is perfect....?? LOL




RE: Fanbois
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 9:33:06 AM , Rating: 2
Depends if they have to change the form factor of the phone. If they simply fill the existing one, be fine.


RE: Fanbois
By Solandri on 5/16/2012 5:17:37 PM , Rating: 2
No, they're screwed either way.

If the switch to 4", the fanboys who said 3.5" was the best size will be proven wrong.

If they add a second 4" model, the fanboys who said that iPhones are great because there's only one model and no confusing choices will be proven wrong.

If Apple sticks with 3.5", they'll continue to lose customers who think it's too small or too big.

This is the problem with (in a business environment) taking the opinion of a single man (Jobs) as the irrefutable and infallible word of god. The market doesn't have one opinion. It covers a wide range of opinions. A single-model product is the best choice only when you have a monopoly.


RE: Fanbois
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:05:07 AM , Rating: 2
Nonsense.

If they stick to 4" whilst keeping the same form factor, the people who said 3.5" was best due to being able to reach the whole screen with your thumb will still be correct.

They wont have two different models released at the same time, so your 'second 4" model' argument is nonsense. If they do release 4" screen, it'll be THE screen for the new generation, just like the retina display was THE SCREEN for the iPhone 4. No confusing choices, just 1 new phone.

If Apple does go for the 4" model, they wont have stuck with the 3.5" model so your final argument is destroyed. Interesting though how you are picking a feature of the best selling phone of all time as why they are 'losing customers'.

The views have jobs have proven to be extremely lucrative and it's unlikely we'll see such domination again in the near future, he's been proven correct by sales. And it's not just his opinion, lack of fragmentation in the iOS range is still the reason they have better quality apps which feel and look better than equivalent Android ones do. This is especially obvious in the tablet world, and is a major reason why Android tablet sales continue to be poor.


RE: Fanbois
By Souka on 5/16/2012 5:20:55 PM , Rating: 3
I've had Windows 5/6.x, Droids, Blackberries, and two iPhones... 3G and 4.

After being spoiled on a number of Droid 4in+ devices... the 3.5" device brings me back to the Samsung Omina..small

Pocket wise, the iPhone 4 feels bigger than my DroidX2

Let apple make a 4.5" iPhone... it'll do just fine.
If they make another 3.5" iPhone... it'll do just fine.
People with b*tch either way.

I'd soo readily give up my iPhone4 for a Droid. After months of using the iPhone4... I'm really disappointed with the speed and restictions the 3.5" screen has.

Also not a fan of the built-in email client I have to use for my corporate emails.

My $.02


RE: Fanbois
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 9:34:15 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah who's copying who now iTards?

I suppose the next form-factor change will be to make the phone thinner and lighter too, bringing them in line with Samsung Android products.


RE: Fanbois
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 10:56:16 AM , Rating: 1
Grandma's have a hard time seeing a small screen so grandparents everywhere are demanding a bigger screen on the iPhone.


RE: Fanbois
By djc208 on 5/16/2012 11:40:14 AM , Rating: 4
Haven't you seen the adds? Only attractive 20-somethings and kids use idevices. It wouldn't be cool if Grandma had one too.


RE: Fanbois
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 12:20:21 PM , Rating: 1
All the old people I know have iPhones and I recommend them to old people looking for a smartphone. You think Grandma is going to root a droid or use a Windows Phone for Office/WiFi hotspotting?

iPhone is your grandparents device because they need to be told what they can do.


RE: Fanbois
By Jeffk464 on 5/16/2012 3:22:17 PM , Rating: 1
Yup I have hear over and over iphones are great for non techies. Personally I love my LTE 4.65" screened android phone. The bigger the screen the more usable it is for browsing and other smart features. I say just keep it slim and light enough to fit in my jeans pocket and then its not to big.


RE: Fanbois
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 12:20:59 PM , Rating: 2
According to Apple's latest ads they are for total flakes or total badasses with a heart of gold; referring to the Zooey Deschanel and Sam Jackson ads.


RE: Fanbois
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 12:24:43 PM , Rating: 2
Love Zooey but that's not the Sam Jackson I like.


RE: Fanbois
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 12:30:04 PM , Rating: 3
Right on! I want the "Do they speak English in What?" and "That's my Bad Mother Fu%ker." Sam Jackson to do an ad.


RE: Fanbois
By RjBass on 5/16/2012 11:29:15 AM , Rating: 2
Next form factor change will prob be a removable battery or expandable storage. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Apple copying the best features of it's top competitor.

But then again, when we look at the last 12 years of Apple, what they will most likely do is look at the best features in Android, make those features available on the iPhone, then market it as something new and innovative so the iSheep think it is an Apple invention. Then they will patent some obscure piece about their new addition and then sue the shit out of everybody else who has been using the same tech for years.


RE: Fanbois
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 12:21:37 PM , Rating: 1
You mean like Google Voice, oops I mean Siri?


RE: Fanbois
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 12:25:38 PM , Rating: 3
AskZiggy or Built in if your Windows Phone.


RE: Fanbois
RE: Fanbois
By Solandri on 5/16/2012 5:54:35 PM , Rating: 2
You're pointing to the evolution of technology as if it's something Apple invented. Prior to 2006, digitizers on devices like PDAs almost universally used a stylus. It wasn't because people liked a stylus. It was because touchscreens weren't really viable with the state of the art back then. That's why the phone designs from then and before have a physical keyboard. It was either that or a stylus.

It was around 2006 when the touch-sensitive displays really started to be rolled out in commercial products. The Thinkpad X60 was one of the first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvAlLVJq4l8

From there, it was only a question of time before the physical keyboard was replaced by a touchscreen keyboard. Yes Apple took a risk by betting that the state of the art touchscreens in 2007 would suffice as a replacement for a physical keyboard; a risk Google wasn't willing to take until the iPhone proved it. But that doesn't mean Apple invented it or other companies copied them. The technology has been around since the 1960s. It just matured to where it became viable on a phone's (or laptop's) display around 2006-2007.

If you disagree, then I can predict right here and now that in the future we will be able to take holographic 3D photos. That the CPUs and storage in our phones will replace laptops. And (let me go out on a limb here) that DDR4 memory will supplant DDR3. And when these evolutionary changes come true, all the companies implementing them will obviously have copied me.


RE: Fanbois
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:08:40 AM , Rating: 2
The final paragraph wouldn't have been a pointless rant but for the fact that thousands of companies had the thoughts you listed way before you. Thus making your example pointless.

Also, look up the difference between innovation and invention. Apples contribution also extends way beyond the screen technology they introduced which revolutionised the market.


RE: Fanbois
By tayb on 5/16/2012 12:34:48 PM , Rating: 1
The best android phones don't have removable batteries because a removable battery is a giant waste of space and no one ever actually swaps batteries anyway. It would cost me $60 to get a brand new battery. Why would I do that? I'll just charge it at work.

Expandable storage would be nice but it won't happen and doesn't even need to happen now with iCloud. And if they did do it it would sure as hell be a lot more seamless than my crap Droid X. Despite having 8GB of internal memory if I pull out my SD card I can't even take pictures. How idiotic.


RE: Fanbois
By Homerboy on 5/16/2012 1:02:32 PM , Rating: 1
iCloud only works if you have unlimited data transfer. Which, if you have noticed, isn't what is offered anymore.


RE: Fanbois
By name99 on 5/16/2012 2:04:39 PM , Rating: 2
iCloud is not a copy of dropbox, moron. It is a mechanism for synching (many many aspects of) a variety of devices. As such, to claim it uses a large amount of data is as stupid as the previous claim that Siri uses large amounts of data.


RE: Fanbois
By Jeffk464 on 5/16/2012 3:24:30 PM , Rating: 2
Batteries sometimes don't last the life of the phone, at which point its awfully nice to be able to swap it.


RE: Fanbois
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 11:44:35 AM , Rating: 5
LMAO

Do we need to pull the picture of the original Google phone? The one that looked like a "Walt Disney" Blackberry.

Google copied Apple is such a hard core giant ass raping way that what little Apple could derive from any Android phones cosmetic changes today is like a Xmas tree LED held up next to the sun.

Grow up


RE: Fanbois
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 11:48:40 AM , Rating: 2
Too late.. Here you go. I know how you are big on websites. Here is one with facts, not conjecture.

http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...


RE: Fanbois
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 12:23:27 PM , Rating: 2
That looks like the 4th place phone company umm Blackberry that's them.

If anyone is keeping score Windows Phone might have just surpassed Blackberry market share.


RE: Fanbois
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 2:32:08 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, no offense to Google, cause it's the American way. But looks like they were planning on copying Blackberry until they decided to copy Apple.

Cheers to them.


RE: Fanbois
By PrinceGaz on 5/16/12, Rating: -1
RE: Fanbois
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2012 10:06:55 AM , Rating: 2
Because Apple dictates what is ideal? LOL


RE: Fanbois
By xti on 5/16/2012 11:11:36 AM , Rating: 1
prolly better than techies do tbh...


RE: Fanbois
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 12:24:35 PM , Rating: 2
You don't understand. It will be the best optimal ever because it is an iPhone. You know, the one with more GeeBees.

/s


RE: Fanbois
By Dorkyman on 5/16/2012 10:18:44 AM , Rating: 2
Exhibit #1 in the "Apple users tend to be Sheeple" category.

In the past, the perfect size was what Apple said it was, and in the future the perfect size will be what Apple says it is.

It's gotten to where I truly pity anyone carrying an iPhone. It's like acne for the brain.


RE: Fanbois
By tayb on 5/16/2012 10:21:35 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
It's gotten to where I truly pity anyone carrying an iPhone.


LOL. Seriously? I pity someone who generalizes people to that level.


RE: Fanbois
By Sazabi19 on 5/16/2012 10:35:08 AM , Rating: 3
We pity you for pitying people who pity them :)


RE: Fanbois
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/16/2012 10:40:18 AM , Rating: 5
I simply pity the fool.


RE: Fanbois
By name99 on 5/16/2012 2:08:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Exhibit #1 in the "Apple users tend to be Sheeple" category.


(a)
Really? The ads that say "When I take out my smartphone and it's exactly the same as everyone else, I'm expressing myself --- as an individual"?
Oh wait --- those WEREN'T Apple ads.

(b)
There are good reasons to believe that this phone comes with a larger SCREEN but not a larger SIZE --- the screen is stretched to use up more of the unused bezel at the top and especially the bottom of the phone. If this is so, your claims about Apple changing the phone size will look rather silly, won't they?


RE: Fanbois
By StevoLincolnite on 5/16/2012 10:50:37 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
3.5 inches was the perfect size back when the iPhone was first released. Times change, so if they do release an iPhone with a 4+ inch screen, then clearly a larger size is now perfect for the types of tasks we now do on smartphones.


No, 3.5" wasn't the perfect size for everyone when the first iPhone was released.
I have big hands, larger the phone, the better. - The HTC Titan is a good fit for me.
Other cases I know is where friends/family have bad eyesight, the iPhone's small size made viewing it difficult for them, but you know... It was "perfect" when it was released wasn't it?

I am not and will not be dictated on whats fine and what's not by a multi-billion dollar company, they don't sell me something that suits my needs? Fine. ALL their competitors do and I'll buy from them instead.

This blind-sightedness from the worlds general population when it comes to Apple is simply stupid, they almost follow and believe everything they say like it's a god damn religion.


RE: Fanbois
By Pandamonium on 5/16/2012 12:31:07 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe your hands are at the margins of the size distribution. I'm sure there are people with smaller hands who say 3.5" is too big for one-handed operation. By extension, 4.7" should be too large for them. Should they ream HTC, Samsung, et. al. for making ridiculously large flagship phones? And I know there are people with great eyesight, who are dissatisfied with the sharpness of some smartphone screens. Should those people ream their phone manufacturers for not taking their 20/10 vision into account?

The point is, you have the choice to buy whatever combination of screen-size and feature-set that works for you. So vote with your wallet, and keep your mouth shut. The more people like you flame Apple or any other company, the more ridiculous you make yourselves look. These are all faceless companies run by boards of director that care only about the bottom line.

Clearly Apple has something figured out right if they're carrying some ~40% of the smartphone market. And it's equally clear that Samsung and HTC have something figured out right too. Is it really that difficult to believe that there are multiple strategies to run a successful company?


RE: Fanbois
By StevoLincolnite on 5/16/2012 1:41:57 PM , Rating: 2
You have just backed up allot of my points, in future though don't tell people when they can and can not voice an opinion, I won't listen to such demands from you or anyone and I doubt you would be any different in that regard. Just deal with it.


RE: Fanbois
By phatboye on 5/16/2012 12:39:45 PM , Rating: 1
guys, I'm pretty sure PriceGaz is being sarcastic. Way to not pick up on that.


RE: Fanbois
By PrinceGaz on 5/19/2012 4:28:25 PM , Rating: 2
+1 to you. It seems sarcasm here isn't noticed by most people, without a smiley.


RE: Fanbois
By tayb on 5/16/2012 10:04:42 AM , Rating: 2
It is not so much the screen size as it is the travel distance from the bottom of the phone to the top. I have a Droid X and if I position my thumb for optimal portrait texting I have to stretch to swipe down for notifications and completely reposition to type in the browser address bar. A 4" screen would be fine if there wasn't so much wasted space below the screen or if the UI was designed to never have to travel all the way above the screen. (Why isn't it swipe UP to view notifications?? MS had the right idea with the address bar at the bottom.)


RE: Fanbois
By yomamafor1 on 5/16/2012 10:47:18 AM , Rating: 2
This again?

Rumors of "ZOMG TEH NEXT GEN IPHONE WILL HAVE 4" SCREEN+" have been going on since iPhone 4. Before the launch of iPhone 4S, almost every big media outlet reported that the screen of iPhone 4S was going to be 4", some even say 5".

Only a fool would believe these rumors are true.


RE: Fanbois
By ksherman on 5/16/2012 1:29:50 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, ALL of us iPhone users said that 3.5" was too big. Every one of us. Stop lumping all of us together as if we're all stupid mindless drones.

3.5" was okay for a while, but it needs to be bigger now. I liked the 4.3" EVO (that I dumped and returned to an iPhone) and I thought it was a great size.


RE: Fanbois
By OCNewbie on 5/16/2012 11:40:23 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like many a nerd's fantasy: "FOUR inches?! Why on earth would anybody need one THAT big?!"


Good grief, folks
By Commodus on 5/16/2012 10:47:32 AM , Rating: 2
First up: if you can't act like an adult and refer to Apple, iPhones, and iPhone users without using childish names, you've completely lost your argument. Entirely.

Also, don't broadly stereotype (which ties into the first point, really). Most people buy iPhones because of the software, responsiveness and overall aesthetics. Screen size doesn't matter as much when those are your focuses. Apple picked 3.5 inches in 2007 because it was both a size they were comfortable with and because of what smartphone needs were like in 2007. That size actually lasted a long while, but the massive shift towards data and video has made 3.5 inches feel small.

Besides, Android faces an opposite problem: the Bigger is Always Better myth. It's to the point now where many newer phones -- the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Note, One X and Optimus Vu are examples -- force you to move your hand significantly or go two-handed just to reach all of the screen. That's not better, that's just letting marketing numbers override good design. There's an irony to calling iPhone users "sheep" when Samsung, LG and the like almost slavishly follow Marketing 101... and each other. You're not being a rugged individual by buying Android from a Korean megacorporation.




RE: Good grief, folks
By Arsynic on 5/16/2012 11:05:53 AM , Rating: 3
Shouldn't you be dusting your Steve Jobs altar?


RE: Good grief, folks
By Commodus on 5/16/2012 11:24:24 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for proving the point.


RE: Good grief, folks
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 12:26:42 PM , Rating: 1
Actually, you proved the point, that Apple's philosophy is the one that matters and you're incapable of seeing value beyond that.

You say don't stereotype (generalize) then right after that you say:

quote:
Most people buy iPhones because of the software, responsiveness and overall aesthetics.


WTF?

What about the hardware features and functionality I require for my mobile computing needs? You don't get to the software without first going through the hardware. It all matters depending on what the owner's needs are. You can fit many people's needs into one device, but others may have different needs where different devices work better.


RE: Good grief, folks
By tayb on 5/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: Good grief, folks
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 3:18:11 PM , Rating: 2
Let's see about hardware features that meet my mobile needs:
1. 4.5 inch screen
2. Higher resolution
3. HDMI video out
4. Battery life
5. NFC
6. Buttons for home, menu, back and search
7. Buttons in the configuration I like them in

Who are you to say what my mobile needs are, or anyone else's for that matter beyond your own? Seriously, go troll on Engadget.


RE: Good grief, folks
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:16:01 AM , Rating: 2
1. 4.5 inch screen - something most users don't require
2. Higher resolution? Hello Retina display
3. HDMI connector cable, $5
4. iPhone highest battery life
5. NFC because it's uses are so widespread?
6. Because some people are just that dumb they can't go back, home, menu or search on an iPhone.
7. As above

Lets just conclude by saying you're 'special' if you have all of these requirements which even a monkey wouldn't. Since humans in general are intelligent, iPhone remains the best selling handset of all time.


RE: Good grief, folks
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 2:34:40 PM , Rating: 2
That's why you have Android and BB. You have other choices. Why do you insist that Apple change it's business model to make you happy.

Here I thought a corporation's goal was to be profitable.

Weird.


RE: Good grief, folks
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 3:38:32 PM , Rating: 2
Apple already is profitable. Apple's goal is to bully their way to a monopoly.


RE: Good grief, folks
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 4:44:19 PM , Rating: 2
For shame, where is your boy FITCamaro ??

Control your boy, he is bashing capitalism.

http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...


RE: Good grief, folks
By Commodus on 5/16/2012 4:36:35 PM , Rating: 2
You read waaaaaaay too much into that statement.

I was saying that, of those who buy iPhones, they choose it for those reasons. It's hard to deny that there's a good app ecosystem, that the OS is very quick on its heels, and that the designs are pretty.

I do use Android very frequently -- I own a Galaxy Nexus, and I've tested the HTC One X enough to seriously appreciate the hardware. I'm with you: I think there are times when another device might be a better fit for some people. Be careful not to project your beliefs about what iPhone users (of which I am also one) are like.


RE: Good grief, folks
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 12:30:10 PM , Rating: 2
"Android" is on phones from little flip-phone cellphones and all form factors on up. What do you mean "bigger is better" myth? Only a small majority of Android phones have massive screens.

The point is you can find something that suits your needs. Unlike Apple. Apple tells you what your needs are.

quote:
Apple picked 3.5 inches in 2007 because it was both a size they were comfortable with and because of what smartphone needs were like in 2007.


Wrong. They "picked" 3.5" because that was the largest panel that could be made cheaply and in large numbers at the time. Apple doesn't do ANYTHING that threatens their massive markup profits on devices. And this is why they have stuck with 3.5" all these years. Money. Not innovation. Not market research. But just plain dollars and cents. Changing the form factor and screen sizes would require significant monetary investments.

quote:
You're not being a rugged individual by buying Android from a Korean megacorporation.


Weren't you the one just lecturing about acting like an adult and using childish tactics in this discussion? Ummm, yeah. So what's with this red herring?


RE: Good grief, folks
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 2:17:43 PM , Rating: 2
LMFAO

Yeah, those are the reasons. Forget the fact that EVERYONE said the iPhone would flop. Yeah, they were definitely protecting their "profits", before they even sold 1 device.

Love the spin zone. Forget facts just spin until it makes sense to your ignorance.


RE: Good grief, folks
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 2:39:25 PM , Rating: 2
Everyone said it would flop. Really? "Everyone"?

If by everyone you mean a small vocal minority, then yeah, you have a point.

And what does that have to do with anything I've said anyway? What spin?

Prove me wrong. Show me the technical reasons why Apple went with the 3.5" "Retina" display and show that cost and supply chain concerns had absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Are you nuts? They wouldn't be a very good business if that wasn't a chief concern.

LMFAO yourself BS, and grow up.


RE: Good grief, folks
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 4:23:58 PM , Rating: 2
LMFAO

http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-...

Retina Display was new for the iPhone 4. Previous iPhones had much lower resolutions.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-re...

That's too much to comprehend, so forget that previous iPhone 3G/3GS had a 480x320 screen resolution. Forget Retina iPhone 4/4S 960x640. That's an integer factor of 2. Adding to the size of the screen would be adding more pixels. 1080x 720 say. 2.25 ?? Hence, a resolution of something other than an integer factor increase. Uh oh, we are getting technical. Integer calculations tend to consumer much fewer resources than floating point calculations. These are CPU resources. Not the natural resources we were talking about yesterday.

What does this all have to do with anything?? Compatibility of Apps written for previous versions of iOS. Rendering speed when going from 480x320 textures to 960x640.

Look, FACTS. What we get is an App store stock full of Apps that ran on the original iPhone that do not look jacked up on the iPhone 4S. And at the same time, not sacrificing the snappiness of the response times in interacting with the iPhone.

But you are probably right, it's more fun deciding which version of Angry Birds will actually run and look right on my Droid X53 RAZR Extreme ZI.


RE: Good grief, folks
By Commodus on 5/16/2012 6:17:11 PM , Rating: 2
I'm talking about the endless screen size race: this refusal to ever ship a phone in a model line with the same screen size twice, and intentionally relegating anything under "big" to budget phone territory. The Galaxy S/S II/S III progression is an example, and arguably the Galaxy Note and Optimus Vu are the epitomes of this attitude. It's not about whether you can properly reach UI elements with your hands, it's about looking better in the sales flyer.

There's no doubt Apple has a one-size-fits-all approach, and that's sometimes bad. But there's something irritating about its opposite, the must-fill-every-niche attitude you see at LG, Motorola, Samsung and many (not all) Android designers. Look at Samsung's current worldwide phone lineup: Galaxy Ace 2, Galaxy mini 2, Galaxy S Advance, Galaxy M, Galaxy R, Galaxy Y, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S III... and outside of a few key models, the changes in cost and screen are so minuscule as to be irrelevant, even when you don't include carrier variants. It's one thing to reflect different tastes -- it's another to simply be scattershot. HTC is much smarter now, because it realized that it's better to have a cross between the Android and iPhone ideas: offer choice, but make it clear and know your limits.

The 3.5-inch panel size no doubt played into Apple's choices as well, but what about resolution? Apple was the first to push past 480x854, and doing that at four inches with already tight yields isn't the smartest idea. The case for a bigger screen got much more convincing in 2011, and certainly in 2012.

As for the "red herring" -- the point is that a lot of the people who throw in immature "Crapple" and "iSheep" references (or who are just completely irrational in their Android advocacy) act as though they're taking some kind of political stand. It's a phone. I don't mind closed policies and a one-size strategy on a hunk of aluminum and glass that makes my life easier. Save the talk of freedom and revolutions for Chinese dissidents being imprisoned and killed for their political beliefs.


RE: Good grief, folks
By elleehswon on 5/17/2012 8:35:39 AM , Rating: 2
Battery Life. Larger screen = worse battery life. That's why apple has been using that tiny little screen. Oddly enough, though, both the global and us versions of the HTC one X show better battery life than the 4s.


RE: Good grief, folks
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:26:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
"Android" is on phones from little flip-phone cellphones and all form factors on up. What do you mean "bigger is better" myth? Only a small majority of Android phones have massive screens. The point is you can find something that suits your needs. Unlike Apple. Apple tells you what your needs are.


Well lets not talk complete trash. 'Android' isn't a manufacturer, it's a general operating system. The handsets themselves from any given manufacturer tend to do exactly the same as what Apple do in that they launch their leading phone with the specifications they believe match your needs. Android doesn't offer anything. Android manufacturers don't offer any more level of choice than Apple so long as we're talking about their flagship phones, and if you depart from that you have to sacrifice performance.

On top of that, because ANDROID in general has to work on phones you will never see or use, it's slower and fragmented and has fewer lower quality apps.

It's so interesting how you're so dumb that you describe Apple as 'telling you' what your needs are by releasing a phone, whereas Samsung with the SG3 are saying 'here's a phone we produced, dunno whether it's what you need or not' .... your biased drivel is ridiculous.


RE: Good grief, folks
By Dorkyman on 5/16/2012 12:34:44 PM , Rating: 2
This makes no sense at all.

I bought an Android because I wanted flexibility like a removable battery, freedom from iTunes, flash memory, and not having to march in lockstep with Jobs.

In contrast, many people buy Apple because they like being part of the cult they want to be identified with, or because they are a bit nervous about technology and want to be led.

So which user is the Sheep?


RE: Good grief, folks
By ritualm on 5/16/2012 5:30:17 PM , Rating: 2
Both.

Sheep = being led to believe nothing ever happened to the two Virginian-Plot reporters in Norfolk, with almost every level of the MSM conspiring to keep it off the radar, despite the incident having some very uncomfortable racial overtones

The definition of "sheep" is so wildly variable, it's not funny. Long-time PC users who use iPhones/iPads = they're sheep? What a joke.

Agent Smith: "We're not here because we're free, we're here because we're not free."


RE: Good grief, folks
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:32:02 AM , Rating: 2
Firstly, removable battery provides you with no benefit whatsoever. A portable phone charges consumes less space than carrying around a spare battery. You can easily get your battery replaced in an iPhone for free by Apple.

You don't need iTunes, at all, to use an iPhone.

Flash memory never affects anything or anyone so that is just ridiculous.

Not having to march in lockstep with Jobs is the irrational illogical bias drivel which makes you the sheep.

So all in all, you have not one accurate reason.

Then you mistakenly stereotype Apple users as people who want to be part of a 'cult'? Guess what, most Apple users are buying for

a) Best App store
b) Fastest hardware (CPU/GPU combo in iPhone 4S was faster than any other phone for a full 7 months)
c) Highest customer satisfaction ratings (Samsung second bottom)
d) High quality design & aesthetics - same reason people buy Ferraris
e) Best or leading battery life
f) USP's such as iCloud, Siri, or retina display - all of which have alternatives but none as successful or as fully integrated.
g) Ease of use and reliability of the operating system
h) Device support - 3 year old iPhone still receive updates. There are new Android phones released right now which don't even have ICS, and so many 6 month old handsets which will never receive this upgrade. The lucky ones receive it months after it is released.

Must be weird reading logical things for you, right?


RE: Good grief, folks
By Jeffk464 on 5/16/2012 3:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Note

Yup, but I'm much more comfortable reading ebooks, web browsing, blogging, etc on the bigger screen, infact I like the 4.65" so much I feel like I need the bigger screen of the Note. It makes my phone a much better jack of all trades device.

PS I always talk on blue tooth so the size of the phone for holding up to my head doesn't apply.


This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 9:41:23 AM , Rating: 2
In a discussion about an Apple phone.

quote:
“There is no doubt that some people would prefer a bigger screen. But nor is there any doubt that many other people would not. I wouldn’t,” wrote Daring Fireball’s John Gruber back in October. “I like to see things get smaller, not bigger. Bigger is not necessarily better. Apple decided on the optimal size for an iPhone display back in 2006. If they thought 4-inches was better, overall, as the one true size for the iPhone display, then the original iPhone would have had a 4-inch display.”


Because every other manufacturer out there gives you a choice of screen sizes and form factors. Only Apple would actually cause this kind of controversy with their continuing practice of one phone to rule them all.

So Gruber is guess people like you will just have to stick to last generations 4S for the next, oh, forever. Because I see no indication that Apple seeks to provide variety and empower consumer choice in their mobile device lines. You get ONE tablet form factor, ONE phone form factor, go suck eggs if you don't like them.




RE: This could only take place
By Dr of crap on 5/16/2012 10:14:04 AM , Rating: 2
Lighten up, it's just a phone.

You not have to much in your life to have to stress about this.


RE: This could only take place
By Jeremy87 on 5/16/2012 10:38:17 AM , Rating: 2
*Sad face*
Just a phone??
*sniff*
*runs away*


RE: This could only take place
By BillyBatson on 5/18/2012 1:50:00 PM , Rating: 2
You must not know reclaimer well.... He must not have anything else in his life to worry about because he is always stressed over EVERY topic he posts about, takes everything companies do to heart as if personal attacks are being launched against him only, he is incredibly opinionated and uses sarcasm and a patronizing tone to belittle people to get his point across, never stops and considers someone else's opinion and take on a subject, and often ignores responding to those who offer an intelligent argument with links opposing his own stance.
Bottom line is he will never form an opinion other than his own and once formed there is no changing it. He isn't here to discuss anything, he is here to lecture all of us with his skewed point of views.


RE: This could only take place
By Tony Swash on 5/16/12, Rating: -1
RE: This could only take place
By Decom on 5/16/2012 12:28:56 PM , Rating: 2
You cannot compare a "Mobile OS" with a fully fledged Tech. Company.

You should only be comparing specific Android to iOS, seeing graphs who's figures measure an "OS" against "a company" does not reflect equally.

The articles you link to have too many of the following nuances for any serious persons liking:-

"estimates", "approximate representation","the assumptions that are built into the model","I emphasize on average"," it’s possible", "It would also imply","We don’t know the exact amount but anecdotal evidence".
Are you having a laugh?? To say this guy's findings should be taken with a pinch of salt are an "understatement"...

It remains to be seen how profitable Google could be if they were to go down the route of designing and building their own line of Phones/Tablets and then strongarming OEM's, carriers and the like for favourable contracts. There's enough people out there that just flat-out dislike Apple to go with them that it could be hugely profitable.

Also, legitimate Android Activations just went 126% Year on Year growth for Q1 2012, giving a global market share of 59%.


RE: This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 12:46:45 PM , Rating: 2
It's Tony. He has a pro-Apple dialogue to support and will post whatever "facts" are required to back up his bias.


RE: This could only take place
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 2:26:27 PM , Rating: 2
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...

As opposed to you, who dismisses facts for random people's opinion and your own rationalizations...


RE: This could only take place
By ritualm on 5/16/2012 5:35:03 PM , Rating: 3
You do realize:

- Tony Swash is the undisputed Apple fanboy of DailyTech
- Reclaimer77 is the undisputed Apple/Microsoft troll of DailyTech
- nothing either says has any meaning whatsoever

?


RE: This could only take place
By Tony Swash on 5/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: This could only take place
By Fritzr on 5/16/2012 4:00:35 PM , Rating: 2
Henry Ford didn't think so when he introduced the original Model A followed by the Model T.

He figured low price & high volume==mega profits. There are still boutique car makers selling less than a 1000 cars a year for very high prices, but the majority of buyers are getting cars from makers following Mr. Ford's business model.

If Android gets a majority share of the customer base (numbers not dollars) then the competition has a smaller user base for developers & licensed manufacturers to sell to.

OSX vs Windows is a good example. Apple is the largest of the boutique manufacturers and gets excellent profits on a very small market share. Microsoft then laughs all the way to the bank, owning the majority of the OS market including sales to owners of Apple computers :)

Each company is making billions on their sales. Apple sells hardware and their OS is a custom feature to set their hardware apart from other Wintel machines. Add Windows and Macs become very expensive Wintel machines with Apple features and Apple marketing to set them apart from other Wintels.

In the end people who do the research buy the machine & OS that best fits their needs. Depending on the customer it may be a Wintel, OSX Wintel, *nix and occasionally an exotic.

Those who follow the latest fad trends are currently buying Apple or Android depending on which fad they are following.

The ones who listen to marketing are buying Apple or Android because they probably aren't aware of the other options.

Then there is the majority, they go to the store and ask the nice salesman to tell them what they need.

The trends seen recently show Android growing faster than the competition. The hit that HTC took in April will cripple HTC sales for a while, maybe even take HTC out of the market. However HTC is not Android. To kill Android as Mr. Jobs insisted needed to be done will require a similar deadly hit on all the manufacturers, major and minor, to end the Android invasion.

Apple is protecting their iOS profits in a manner similar to the way they did with the Mac. Mass advertising to inform the public that the competition does not exist and an Apple purchase is required...please ignore all those machines that aren't displaying the correct logo as they will not function correctly.

This type of advertising does protect the profit margins even when they are a marginal manufacturer in terms of units sold. I have no problem with Apple doing well. I have never found an Apple computer that meets my needs, but I did get a second hand iPod Touch to run a bonus app included with one of my Windows software packages that is iOS only. That might be a sale for Apple if the original owner replaced their iPod or it might be someone who abandoned it as something they did not need after all. Personally I don't care...the price was right and it fits my current needs...that is the criterion that matters most to this buyer.

My phones are Android from unknown manufacturers since I look for smartphone function, no contract and low cost of purchase. I let the people with money to burn fight over which of the $400-$1200 phones is the only one anybody should buy :P


RE: This could only take place
By xti on 5/16/2012 11:13:39 AM , Rating: 2
but...people do like them...

DT peeps gotta stop thinking they share trends of the masses. You think they are sheep, fine, but companies arent going to make a product for your weird 0.1% crowd.


RE: This could only take place
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 11:39:16 AM , Rating: 1
$142 Billion in revenue a year. Clearly, Apple is wrong and you are right.


RE: This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 12:17:33 PM , Rating: 2
Where did I say they were wrong? Of course people like those products, I'm not saying that. How did you, Tony, and so many others completely miss the point?

What happens when Apple makes major changes that people DON'T like, yet offers no alternative to get something in the way they used to like? If quadrillions of people are convinced that 3.5" is the perfect screen size and they don't want a change, what happens when the iPhone evolves into a 4+" form factor?

I predict those gillions of people who have scoffed at Android devices and their "way too big screens" will simply forget the years of proclaiming that 3.5" was the only viable size because Jobs told them so, and line up and buy the iPhone no matter what.

I also find it humorous that this blogger claimed that if Apple wanted the iPhone to be 4+ inches, they would have done that with the first iPhone lol! There was no such THING as a 4+" multi-touch panel in 2007. Apple can do a lot of things, but they can't move heaven and Earth and magic up panels nobody can make.


RE: This could only take place
By Mitch101 on 5/16/2012 12:28:14 PM , Rating: 2
Then Apple will make a blue one with sparkles.


RE: This could only take place
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 2:24:04 PM , Rating: 2
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...

quote:
I predict those gillions of people who have scoffed at Android devices and their "way too big screens" will simply forget the years of proclaiming that 3.5" was the only viable size because Jobs told them so, and line up and buy the iPhone no matter what.


In what world do all these "gillions" of people talk to you??

quote:
There was no such THING as a 4+" multi-touch panel in 2007


Right, because the R&D department settled on 3.5". If the design was for 4", they would have spent the R&D dollars developing a 4" screen.

This is how economics work. I know these concepts are hard for you with the "gillions" of iPhone users yelling inside your head.


RE: This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 2:45:12 PM , Rating: 2
lol R&D BS? What R&D? Apple is a notoriously low R&D spender. They did not "develop" that screen at all! They went to another manufacturer, Samsung, who spent far more in R&D developing that screen.

The technology at the time to make a workable 4"+ retina display was simply NOT cost effective. Those are the facts. Yes, that IS how economics work.

Continue your blind allegiance to Apple though, despite facts and history. It's amusing.


RE: This could only take place
By BSMonitor on 5/16/2012 4:36:28 PM , Rating: 2
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...

$841 Million R&D Dollars in the Quarter ending March 2012.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/04/24Apple-Re...

quote:
The technology at the time to make a workable 4"+ retina display was simply NOT cost effective. Those are the facts. Yes, that IS how economics work.


Retina Display was introduced 2 years ago. It was developed FOR Apple. If Apple, the customer, wanted 4" 326ppi screens, Samsung would have developed 4" screens. FOR Apple.

If Samsung simply had the product sitting around, why wouldn't other phone manufacturers used the technology???

Keep ranting troll!!

LMAO, your presumptions and rationalizations are what amuse me.

Blind allegiance?? LMAO I have only ever owned 2 Apple devices!! And you are calling me a an iTerd. Giving me allegiances. LMFAO I just like watching you make an ass of yourself!

http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...
http://obamapacman.com/2012/04/before-iphone-andro...


RE: This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 5:42:21 PM , Rating: 2
What's with all the "LMFAO's" all the time? Are you 15 and think this is the Battlefield 3 forum or something?

Anyway if you compared Apple to other tech companies, you would see they spend BILLIONS in R&D

quote:
LMAO I have only ever owned 2 Apple devices!!


That's two more devices than someone with a brain and self respect would have bought.


RE: This could only take place
By ritualm on 5/16/2012 5:45:23 PM , Rating: 2
Why do you keep playing the Republican-Democrat game?

(for those that don't get that political reference: whenever the GOP hits a new low, the Dems one-ups them some time later, forcing the GOP to go lower. Rinse and repeat)
quote:
That's two more devices than someone with a brain and self respect would have bought.

Guess what, Reclaimer77? I have a brain and self respect. I bought 4 Apple devices and am planning to buy a fifth. I also had a Palm, a Nokia, and 3 custom-built PCs with everything you seem to love to hate with a passion.

Therefore, you're wrong.

You behave just like BSMonitor... childish.


RE: This could only take place
By Reclaimer77 on 5/16/2012 6:29:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
have a brain and self respect. I bought 4 Apple devices and am planning to buy a fifth.


Well then, the fiery pit of Hell awaits...

:)


RE: This could only take place
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:44:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
That's two more devices than someone with a brain and self respect would have bought.


Apple users are, on average, better educated, better paid, and older than Android users.


RE: This could only take place
By testerguy on 5/18/2012 2:41:55 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
What happens when Apple makes major changes that people DON'T like, yet offers no alternative to get something in the way they used to like? If quadrillions of people are convinced that 3.5" is the perfect screen size and they don't want a change, what happens when the iPhone evolves into a 4+" form factor?


Right OK, so when Samsung gets second bottom in the customer satisfaction surveys, they provide us with an alternative without such rubbish figures?

When all Android manufacturers produce hardware which is slower than the iPhone 4S for a full 7 months after its release, they provide us with an alternative with as good performance as the iPhone 4S?

When Android manufacturers release devices with poor battery life across their range, they give us an alternative with good battery life?

When Android manufacturers release a phone with access to an App Store missing key apps we may want, such as Sky Sports or Formula 1, they give us an alternative?

When Android manufacturers release phones with no software upgrades or with an already outdated operating system, they give the users an alternative phone which isn't ignored as soon as people have bought it?

Your drivel is a complete logical fail. All companies have unresolved failings in their phones, for some people. That you think that this only applies to Apple and fail to realise that their sales figures prove they have fewer such failings for fewer people, is your failing.

As for the screen size and form factor - what people specifically like is the FORM FACTOR, not the screen size. Many arguments put forward to defend 3.5" screens are things such as being able to reach the entire screen surface with your thumb - well guess what this doesn't change if you keep the SAME FORM FACTOR - which is what is rumoured. It wasn't the 'screens' on the Android phones which were scoffed at, it was the fact that the footprint of said phones with large screens resembled that of a BRICK, such as people who answer calls on a Note.

As for one blogger and his opinion on 4 inches, not really relevant to anyone else on here.


So let me get this straight
By Apone on 5/16/2012 12:02:24 PM , Rating: 2
if Samsung raises the bar by releasing a large 4-6-inch screen smartphone, then it's considered "ridiculous", "stupid", and "desperate" by Apple fans? But if Apple does it, then it's okay, right?




RE: So let me get this straight
By ksherman on 5/16/2012 1:35:06 PM , Rating: 2
Most people wouldn't say that a 4 or maybe even up to a 4.3" screen is all that large. But the new trend of 4.6 or 5"+ is pretty silly.


RE: So let me get this straight
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 3:32:58 PM , Rating: 2
I recommend trying a 4.5 inch screen phone for a while. I was skeptical about going larger than a 4 inch screen, but I'm glad I went to a 4.5 inch screen. In the right hardware package, it's not that much larger of a device and it makes a difference for typing accuracy, nicer to browse on, nicer for pictures/video, etc. At this point I don't think I would want to anything less than 4.5 unless I had to.


RE: So let me get this straight
By Jeffk464 on 5/16/2012 3:35:50 PM , Rating: 2
ahmen


RE: So let me get this straight
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2012 1:56:20 PM , Rating: 2
They have a 5.3 in phone out by the way....


If only they had 2 screen sizes!
By BillyBatson on 5/16/2012 3:22:19 PM , Rating: 2
I low my iPhone4's screen size! (and previous models). I do NOT want a larger screen!! The 3G/3GS was a great phone to hold felt great in my hands but the iPhone4's square body already makes it very uncomfortable to hold especially in landscape mode and especially with only 1 hard for sometimes an hour at a time. I've used android phone and they are just TOO BIG! They aren't easy to hold with 1 hand for a prolonged time, larger screen adds weight, and of course it's harder to store in pockets! Many times in my jeans android phones are a pain to remove from my pockets once it's snugly in there not to mention if you leave th screen on its impossible to take out of your pockets without pressing stuff on the screen.
Best case scenario would be to have 2 identical iPhones with 2 different screen sizes to choose from.
I never understood why android phones started coming in such ridiculous large sizes. I'm not saying you shouldn't have the option of a larger phone but all flagship phones are shipping with excessively large screens. Only thing I can think of for this is because even though the iPhone4 screen is smaller it provides much better quality/resolution so android phones need the extra size just to be able to be read as easily.
I also don't agree on the 1 size fits all iPad, 10" is too large for me I have a 13" laptop that does just fine but I would kill for a 7" iPad.
Who wants to carry around a 15" monitor in their pocket, I just want a 3.5-3.7" phone.




By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 3:37:53 PM , Rating: 2
If Apple does make a larger screen device that's likely what they will do is offer the current iPhone 4S and the next iPhone (5?) concurrently as a choice. They did this with the newest iPad and the iPad 2 which was a great move. Anyone looking at a decent Android tablet in the $400 range is probably comparing it to an iPad 2.

Choice is good, yes?


RE: If only they had 2 screen sizes!
By DeluxeTea on 5/17/2012 1:20:56 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Only thing I can think of for this is because even though the iPhone4 screen is smaller it provides much better quality/resolution so android phones need the extra size just to be able to be read as easily.

Quite a few of the current flagship Android phones have 720p screens. The iPhone 4S might have better pixel density, but that's about it.


By BillyBatson on 5/17/2012 7:23:07 PM , Rating: 2
"that's about it" seems to be the most importan part. Place a 4s next to ANY android phone and the 4s looks much much MUCH nicer. It's a fact. Not to mention that OLED screens no matter the size or resolution have a blue tint to them, aren't nearly as clear, and Inpersonally think not as bright as an iPhone on full brightness.

Also choice is a good thing, but I don't see a 3.5" 4s and a 4" 5 as a "choice" but 2 different sized screen 5's would be a choice.
I would rather want a slightly thicker 3.5" than a thinner 4". I don't see what people like about huge screens unless you're a girl with a purse to lug it around in, and way too thin form factors that make it uncomfortable and awkward to hold especially when being used as an actual phone to talk on.


Bezel
By chris2618 on 5/16/2012 10:38:10 AM , Rating: 2
Does this means they will finally get rid of the ridiculously sized bezel and actually fill the front of the phone.

For the size arugement i don't know if i have bigger than normal hands but i always found the screen on old phones to small for the full qwerty. I know on android you had the option to change to keypad which was very useful. 4in size does make a massive difference for the larger thumbed




RE: Bezel
By WalksTheWalk on 5/16/2012 3:27:09 PM , Rating: 2
If the bezel gets too thin doesn't it hurt one-handed usage? On a 4 inch or larger screen, when you reach to the other side of the screen your hand would tend to mush onto the screen if the bezel were too small.

Yes, for me a larger screen made for a much better software keyboard experience. I went from a 3.5 inch screen to a 4.5 inch screen and the difference was huge for typing accuracy in portrait mode.


RE: Bezel
By Jeffk464 on 5/16/2012 3:38:48 PM , Rating: 2
The best backing for a phone was on my old droid incredible, rubberized plastic. Sure it looks cheap, but it sticks in your hand. My new Nexus is way to slippery.


It's Simple, Really
By Arsynic on 5/16/2012 10:16:30 AM , Rating: 2
When Apple starts adopting ideas from competitors, it means that they're running out of fresh ideas to milk their sheep on an annual basis for $300 a pop.

How about modernizing iOS? It's long in the tooth.




RE: It's Simple, Really
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/16/2012 10:18:42 AM , Rating: 2
I'll agree with you on the OS. It still looks basically the same as when it was introduced in 2007. Especially on the iPad, it just looks... outdated.


subjective
By Nortel on 5/16/2012 11:37:38 AM , Rating: 2
apple will have the iphone 4s and new iphone being sold side by side... so there is no wrong answer...




RE: subjective
By BillyBatson on 5/18/2012 1:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
That is still a wrong answer!! No one will want an iphone4 just to go with a smaller screen! No one wants old tech least of all over screen size. Fast forward to an iPhone 6, 7, even 8 and will they still be offering a 3.5" iPhone4? NO! That means apple will only offer a 3.5" phone for 1 more generation and it will be an old tech phone no one but high school students with patents on a budget will want. When the iphone6 is released will the 5 and 6 sell concurrently? That would be 2 phones with no 3.5 option.
Buying old tech for the sake of screen size is the wrong answer.


Oh, DT...
By lowbot on 5/16/2012 1:16:38 PM , Rating: 2
You can always count on at least of of these in a Daily Tech story:
"One rumor that seems to pop up every year -- but never comes to fruition – is the use a screen larger than 3.5”

Anyone proofreading over there?




RE: Oh, DT...
By lowbot on 5/16/2012 1:18:41 PM , Rating: 2
Haha!! Look, I made a mistake in my post about them making mistakes! Never mind, I lose...


Not a fan of bigger phones
By aliasfox on 5/16/2012 11:15:32 AM , Rating: 2
My first cell phone was a Sony Ericsson T610 - tiny by today's standards. The iPhone is now small by smartphone standards, but I think it's actually bigger than it needs to be for a lot of people. Personally, I wouldn't want a 4.5+" phone in my pocket or up to my ear, it just feels too awkward. In fact, I was intrigued by the HP/Palm Veer (or whatever it was) - the tiny Palm phone that was on the market for about a week before HP pulled the plug.

Part of the reason so many flagship phones are getting bigger and bigger these days is because of the increased power draw of newer and faster chipsets/radios - if they can put a 20-30% larger battery (say, 4.5 Whr vs 5.6 Whr) in a 4.5" phone vs a 3.5" phone while increasing power draw less than that 20-30%, battery life will increase (ie, be tolerable). a jump from a 3.5" screen to a 4.5" screen, all else being equal, shouldn't increase total phone power draw by 20%, so the math works out.

But hey, I don't do much on my phone. I hope they keep a smaller form factor around as well, even if it's a somewhat lower performance device because of it.




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