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We hope the long wait is worth it for these folks

If you want to know why Samsung continues to mock Apple customers in its commercials, look no further than this. Apple’s next generation smartphone hasn’t even been announced yet — the keynote is just under a week away — and CNBC is reporting that eager Apple fans have already marked their place in line to be among the first to purchase the iPhone 6.
Customers started lining up on Sunday with sleeping bags in hand at Apple’s flagship store in New York City. According to CNBC, Jason and Moon Ray paid BuyBackWorld employees Brian Ceballo and Joseph Cruz $1,250 to nab their top two spots in line. The Ray couple plans to use their first place position in line to promote their iPhone app.

Ceballo claims that he has made $7,000 in the past five years by staking out a top spot in line prior to each new iPhone launch.
Apple’s iPhone 6 will be announced on September 9, reportedly in both 4.7” and 5.5” versions. Online pre-orders will likely commence on Friday, September 12, while general availability should begin on September 19.

iPhone 5s (L) pictured next to an assembled 4.7" iPhone 6 (R). [Image Source: YouTube]
The smartphones are expected to bring a 2GHz dual-core processor, NFC technology for a new mobile payments system, and a Category 4 LTE-A modem. The iPhone 6 will also forgo the squared off design of the iPhone 5/5s for a more rounded shape that fits easier in your hands.

Source: CNBC

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How does one wait in line for weeks?
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 3:29:47 PM , Rating: 5
Don't they have a job? How can they buy things like phones with no job? I would think, independently wealthy maybe, but if they were why would they waste time waiting 2 weeks in line. Why would anyone wait 2 weeks in line for anything that wasnt a life or death situation? Just WTF?

By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/3/2014 3:33:49 PM , Rating: 5
You can pre-order one a week before it's officially released and have it delivered to you on launch day in the AM free of charge. Like you, I just don't get it.

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By Mitch101 on 9/3/2014 4:16:18 PM , Rating: 2
Wonder if some of them are hired to camp out at the store to try and create marketing buzz like they used to generate back in the day.

By BrgMx5 on 9/3/2014 5:44:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah … that's more Samsung

By Bill S. on 9/4/2014 7:45:43 AM , Rating: 2
Much more likely (and true) that some Apple fanatic paid them to sit in line for them. Guess some lemmings just can't be bothered to do it for themselves.

By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 4:21:55 PM , Rating: 2
I know... Sometimes even earlier. I had my G3 up and running one day prior to its release. Free shipping at that. Why on Earth would anyone wait in line 2 hours, much less 2 weeks?

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By GotThumbs on 9/4/2014 12:28:40 PM , Rating: 3

Seems not all Apple fans are the sharpest tools in the shed.

This actually speaks volumes about some of the people who live in NY IMO.

By Motoman on 9/4/2014 12:34:00 PM , Rating: 2
At least the Apple fans in NYC...

I'm actually curious as to how it's legal to simply set up camp in front of a business, on city sidewalks, for weeks.

Would the police let homeless people do the same thing, in the same spot?

I'm guessing not.

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By javiergf on 9/3/14, Rating: -1
By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 4:23:44 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe they are... But still. I am trying to put myself in that scenario. If I were unemployed living off loopholes and/or uncle Sam, I still wouldn't wait in line 2 weeks for anything. Not even overnight.

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By Freakie on 9/3/2014 5:51:35 PM , Rating: 1
Unemployment has a maximum timeframe. Can't get Food Stamps and Disability at the same time. Section 8 isn't much for a family of one or two. ~$900 for disability and ~$500 for Section 8, that's $1,500 a month and in a city like New York, that ain't much.

By Xplorer4x4 on 9/9/2014 11:59:46 AM , Rating: 2
Can't get Food Stamps and Disability at the same time.

False. You might not get AS MUCH food stamps but you can get them. My Mom, as I call her, receives, well SII not SSD, but she receives both.

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By amanojaku on 9/3/2014 4:34:10 PM , Rating: 2
Don't they have a job? How can they buy things like phones with no job?
Um, that IS their job...
According to CNBC, Jason and Moon Ray paid BuyBackWorld employees Brian Ceballo and Joseph Cruz $1,250 to nab their top two spots in line.

Ceballo claims that he has made $7,000 in the past five years by staking out a top spot in line prior to each new iPhone launch.
For those who aren't paid to wait in line, many are entrepreneurs who can work remotely. They wait for the device, play with it for a week or two, then sell it for double or more. Then they wait for the buzz to die down and supply to restock, and they buy their own with the profits.

By chmilz on 9/3/2014 5:36:53 PM , Rating: 2
I made $7k after tax last month doing a real job. They should do that. They'd be able to afford a lot more iPhones.

By retrospooty on 9/3/2014 6:48:43 PM , Rating: 2
"Ceballo claims that he has made $7,000 in the past five years by staking out a top spot in line prior to each new iPhone launch."

OK, lets assume that is true. Some idiot is paying him for the privilege that you can have shipped to your door and arrive the same day for free?

On top of that, $7000 in 5 years to camp out weeks ahead of time? He'd still be better off with a low paying job. IT just makes no sense no matter how you add it up. Unless you were already homeless, then sell your spot to some iDouche... Why the hell not. LOL.

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By Motoman on 9/3/2014 4:34:45 PM , Rating: 3
If you're an Apple consumer, reality is of no importance in the first place. So why even bother asking such sensible questions?

By GotThumbs on 9/4/2014 12:34:29 PM , Rating: 2

Sometimes it's just a waste of breath/time to try to explain to some people. They just will never get it.

As long as I'm not responsible for them, I couldn't care less.

Life is full of choices and consequences for those choices. I just want people to own the consequences for their own choices in their lives.

By Legolias24 on 9/3/2014 5:19:58 PM , Rating: 2
Not trying to judge a book by it's cover...or title for that matter, but the name "Moon Ray" doesn't necessarily strike me as the name of someone from the standard 9 to 5 world. So for those questioning their employment status, I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that Moon Ray is an that of the digital, water colour, oil on canvas, paint by numbers, crayon on construction paper...what ever, type of artist. Hence why she (or he) is standing in line prior to anything being announced.

Something about the combination of Apple and the name "Moon Ray", screams "I am an artist therefore I NEED to own the latest iPhone otherwise I wont't be seen as the trend setter by all my hipster artist friends and that is really all that matters to me in this world...that and the fact that I am a starving artist who's mind is boggled because my latest work 'crayon scribbles on construction paper' won't sell for $50, non-artists just don't get it or value true art!!!". [run on sentence intended btw]

I am willing to concede that I may be wrong here but just call it a tongue in cheek hunch. :P

RE: How does one wait in line for weeks?
By tayb on 9/3/2014 5:38:30 PM , Rating: 2
Many of them are paid to wait in line and then many others just simply camp out, work remotely, pick up an iPhone, and then profit on the sale. I'm sure some of them are unemployed though.

What's crazy is that from what I can tell the new iPhone is going to be a major letdown. Seriously disappointing in almost every way. Maybe they'll pick up an iWatch instead.

By Dr of crap on 9/4/2014 12:13:57 PM , Rating: 2
Funny thing is I can get the new phone for free after a year or so, so why must I wait again???? HA!

By Ammohunt on 9/3/2014 6:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
Its called public assistance YOU are paying for them to wait in line for a new phone.

By w8gaming on 9/3/2014 7:31:21 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is like religion with its share of zealots. At least buyers for other phones are reasonable people with common sense.

By Makaveli on 9/3/2014 10:30:58 PM , Rating: 2
And you guys want blackberry to die so we can have more of these peons?

And where is the OMG this is not a QUAD core WTF how am I to use this phone crowd?


Let's see
By siconik on 9/3/2014 4:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
Aug 30st (day when lines begin forming) to Sep 19 = 20 days = 160 work hours @ standard 8 hour day.

$1,250 / 160 = $7.81/hour.

New York minimum wage = $8/hour.


RE: Let's see
By amanojaku on 9/3/2014 4:43:01 PM , Rating: 2
Have you seen the pictures? All of the people mentioned in the article look homeless or broke. They already have low-wage wage jobs, or extremely volatile income.

Many also share spots with friends. They take turns showering, eating, etc...

RE: Let's see
By liquidaim on 9/4/2014 8:52:28 AM , Rating: 2
I think you are trying to calculate the pay off for the first two in line? If that's the case, the time frame needs to be adjusted.

Start on 8/30 (sat) sell on 9/3 (wed). Three work days = 24 hours. 1,250/24 = 52 per hour (without taxes etc.). Working at one of the fast food locations would mean paying taxes, SS etc. Take home pay would equal to ~80% of the minimum wage.

I'd say that's one of the better returns on investment even in New York...

By Colibrium on 9/3/2014 3:21:53 PM , Rating: 2
They should provide wool coats to keep warm during the wait.

By DaveLessnau on 9/3/2014 7:42:45 PM , Rating: 2
From Monty Python's "The Architects Sketch:"

Mr. Wiggin: This is a 12-story block combining classical neo-Georgian features with the efficiency of modern techniques. The tenants arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these...

By Lord_Conrad on 9/3/2014 10:45:33 PM , Rating: 2
The two states where I usually see this happen are New York and California. By a strange coincidence, these are the same two states I usually think of as having a lack of common sense.

By amanojaku on 9/4/2014 2:22:55 PM , Rating: 2
I passed the 5th Avenue Apple store on my way to a client and there was barely a line. Maybe 10 people. I've never seen the outside of the Apple store so empty pre-launch. People must have switched to pre-ordering online, or the anticipation just isn't as great as it once was. Either way, the source article is exaggerating the fanaticism.

New Yorkers
By kaborka on 9/4/2014 2:38:34 PM , Rating: 2
New Yorkers don't wait "in line," they wait "on line."

The commenters of this post...
By epollyon on 9/8/2014 8:54:39 AM , Rating: 2
The people commenting on this should be embarrassed. The comments are prejudiced, judgmental, uninformed, immature, and just ignorant.
Not all of New York is any particular way, not all apple fans are any particular way, not all the people camping out are unemployed hipsters, but, clearly, all the users commenting here have no idea what they are talking about.

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