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  (Source: nytimes.com)
They could be released as early as this week

National Security Agency surveillance programs will be declassified and available to the public as early as this week.

U.S. spy agencies are declassifying documents that shed light on surveillance programs in an attempt to place more transparency on such affairs. 

Also, the documents will reveal information about the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. 

James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, has been working on the declassification of some information by the Surveillance Court.

"I think there is a high likelihood of FISC opinions being declassified soon," said Clapper.

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden uncovered the spying methods used by U.S. intelligence agencies earlier this year, which included collecting data from phones. This was used to fight terrorist attacks, but the public feared for their privacy after such revelations. 

Now, the release of declassified information is an attempt to restore a bit of trust and understanding regarding the intelligence agencies' actions. 

Source: CNN



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Trust and Understanding
By dsquare86 on 7/30/2013 5:50:48 PM , Rating: 5
Why would anyone trust the government?




RE: Trust and Understanding
By TSS on 7/31/2013 1:26:18 AM , Rating: 3
Don't bite the hand that feeds?

Just saying it's pretty hard for any human being to knock on the government when it's the government keeping you alive. That it was the government that got them there in the first place doesn't matter(see stockholm syndrome, on a national scale). It's just human to like the entity being benign in a crappy situation, which for alot of americans is reality right now (50 million people on foodstamps anybody?).

The only way to stop that is to point out the emperor has no clothes on.


RE: Trust and Understanding
By Flunk on 7/31/2013 9:01:10 AM , Rating: 2
I hear this a lot, but I don't see anyone doing anything about it. If you really didn't trust your government you would be doing something about it.


RE: Trust and Understanding
By ClownPuncher on 7/31/2013 12:00:12 PM , Rating: 3
We are doing something about it. Just because nothing seems to change doesn't mean some of us aren't working to make this a better place.


RE: Trust and Understanding
By Crank the Planet on 7/31/2013 5:39:32 PM , Rating: 2
I have a question, isn't the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court supposed to be for spying on Foreign countries, as the name implies? Why then are they using this court to obtain warrants to spy on us???


RE: Trust and Understanding
By Spuke on 7/31/2013 6:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Trust and Understanding
By Ammohunt on 7/31/2013 11:48:16 AM , Rating: 2
47 million people on SNAP?


RE: Trust and Understanding
By Spuke on 7/31/2013 6:11:13 PM , Rating: 2
23 million according to the USDA.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/30SNAPcurrHH.htm


Snowden
By chmilz on 7/30/2013 7:32:11 PM , Rating: 2
Declassification should come with dropped charges for leaking it in the first place. Declassifying is PR step 1. PR step 2 would be letting the dude go. PR step 3 would obviously be scrapping the whole thing entirely (while building their newer, better, more secretive program of course).




RE: Snowden
By Ammohunt on 7/30/13, Rating: 0
RE: Snowden
By spread on 7/31/2013 1:26:51 AM , Rating: 2
Like during the prohibition. If you went to prison for having a drink of alcohol you must serve the rest of your sentence even if it becomes legal the next day.

It's not immoral. It's the law and he broke it. What the government needs to do is write some new laws (or bring up some of those secret laws that nobody can see) and charge him with those as well because he broke all the laws.

Charge him with the law!


RE: Snowden
By Ammohunt on 7/31/2013 11:46:23 AM , Rating: 1
Nice emotional response there! The "Age of Reason" is dead behold the "Age of Emotion"!


RE: Snowden
By MichalT on 7/30/2013 8:47:49 PM , Rating: 2
He also released additional classified information to WikiLeaks. Any sympathy I might have had for him disappeared with the additional disclosures.


RE: Snowden
By PontiusP on 7/30/2013 8:59:26 PM , Rating: 2
Since the ban against the government using propaganda against Americans has been lifted, I see the paid shills are hard at work here.


RE: Snowden
By captainBOB on 7/30/2013 11:47:52 PM , Rating: 2
He gave away all the information to specific people, such as the guy working at The Guardian.

Any additional information you're seeing isn't being released by Snowden, its the press that's deciding when to do it.


RE: Snowden
By Azsen on 7/31/2013 12:16:27 AM , Rating: 2
And that's exactly what they'll do. The current program might be denounced and dismantled, they'll win some support from the people. Meanwhile they'll create another system to do exactly the same thing. Less people will know about it and it will be even more highly classified. Anyone working on the new program will be highly scrutinized and watched day and night.

Actually they don't even need to dismantle the first system. No-one will be able to actually prove that they dismantled it as they said. Are they going to let the media into the NSA and watch them blow up the system and datacenters? How would you know if all of it got destroyed? Maybe they only blew up a tenth of it for show. Obviously blowing it up is a bit over the top and a waste of money. They'd try to repurpose all the datacenter servers and equipment. But how would you prove it got repurposed truthfully? They could just move it to another location deep underground and continue as normal.

The only way to truly get rid of this spying on the whole world is to impeach your entire congress, senate and presidency. Start afresh with honest people. Have a revolution. That's what the Second Amendment is all about, your right to bear arms in defense of yourself and a rogue government. I tell you, if all 314 million+ people decided for a revolution all across America, there is absolutely nothing the government could do to stop it.


RE: Snowden
By Spuke on 7/31/2013 6:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
The thing is that despite what Congress and the President dictate, reasonable people are actually carrying out the "orders". If the NSA is disclosing the program, that's exactly what they're doing.


International laws override US laws.
By Gnarr on 7/31/2013 6:50:30 AM , Rating: 3
"Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials




By Ammohunt on 7/31/2013 11:51:03 AM , Rating: 2
identify exactly what "crimes against peace and humanity" the NSA committed as according to the law not everyone's knee jerk pitchfork and torches, emotional, mob mentality response.


By ClownPuncher on 7/31/2013 12:02:56 PM , Rating: 2
International laws don't override US laws unless you're not a citizen of the US.


Dirty secrets are hard to hide
By PaFromFL on 7/31/2013 9:15:03 AM , Rating: 2
All too often, "need to know" is used to hide information that would be more properly classified as "afraid to tell our own citizens". When you involve over one million US citizens in a program to hide information from everyone else, you had better make sure you are not hiding anything immoral, unethical, or contrary to the constitution. Otherwise, someone will become morally outraged and leak.

The argument that leakers have no right to decide what is right or wrong can also be applied to ethically-challenged leaders who have no right to decide what should be hidden from US citizens. The reason we have so many secrets and enemies is that we are meddling in the affairs of other countries (for BS reasons that serve to line the pockets of one percenters). Too few secrets help your external enemies. Too many secrets make your own government more of a threat.




RE: Dirty secrets are hard to hide
By Spuke on 7/31/2013 6:17:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
(for BS reasons that serve to line the pockets of one percenters)
Your comment was fine until this piece crap.


By PaFromFL on 8/1/2013 12:56:12 AM , Rating: 2
Unless a country is fighting for its very existence, the goal of most wars is to increase the wealth and power of the upper class at the expense of the lower classes. Why do you think we have been fighting for a decade even though it was always clear (proven by the Russians), that there was no chance of victory or establishing a Western democratic society (proven by the British). The wars redistributed a trillion of taxpayer dollars, and greatly weakened the constitutional rights of citizens. Who are the real winners and losers? The rich and the poor, as always.


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