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Microsoft is only taking the iPhone 4S or iPhone 5

Microsoft isn't going to stop until every Apple user hands over their device in favor of a new Windows Phone or Surface.

Microsoft recently launched a program that gives iPad users $200 to trade in their iOS-powered tablet for a Surface. Now, the company is gunning for the iPhone with a similar program. 

According to Forbes, Microsoft will offer a minimum $200 in-store credit to those willing to give up their iPhone 4S or iPhone 5 for a new Windows Phone or other item in the Microsoft Stores. 

This is part of Microsoft's #timetoswitch campaign, which is trying to encourage mobile users to switch to Windows Phone and Surface products.

Apple isn't the only target. Microsoft also launched an online program that allows Apple, Android or BlackBerry users to trade their devices in for a Visa gift card. 

Microsoft likely hopes that it can grab some smartphone market share by luring in the competitive devices and offering its own for cheaper prices. While Apple recently released its iPhone 5S and 5C -- which were big hits for the company, selling over 9 million devices over the initial launch weekend -- some people don't want to pay top dollar for a new device, which may make Microsoft's offer look good. 

Source: Forbes

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Windows Phone 7
By Flunk on 9/25/2013 12:04:37 PM , Rating: 5
What they should be offering is deals to Windows Phone 7 owners after they promised updates to Windows Phone 8 and then backpedaled after the fact.

After the way they treated us early adopters I'm going in another direction for my next phone.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By retrospooty on 9/25/2013 12:10:25 PM , Rating: 1
The only thing MS has proven over the past couple of years is that they don't care what you want. They want what they want and their products and features are designed to serve their agenda. Until I see proof of that mindset changing and them going back to the mindset they made Win7 with ( the "give the customer what they want" mindset) they wont see another penny of my money.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2013 12:55:10 PM , Rating: 2
Their reversals due to consumer feedback on the Xbox One show your statement to be false.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By Morvannec on 9/25/2013 1:05:01 PM , Rating: 5
Their XBox One reversals were due entirely to the fact that Sony was (or they were worried Sony would end up) kicking their arse in pre-orders and sales, not because Microsoft listened to the customers. If not for that they would not have changed the policies at all and told us all to "lump it".

RE: Windows Phone 7
By chripuck on 9/25/2013 1:08:27 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, so true. It's too bad there's no good competition in the mobile phone segment... oh, wait.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By ClownPuncher on 9/25/2013 1:20:10 PM , Rating: 3
Pre-order sales ARE the customers talking.

So much logical disconnect on the internet lately.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 1:28:26 PM , Rating: 5
Consumer feedback LOL!

In the runup to the big E3 pre-announcement, MS had a guy who very simply told its customer base and potential buyers, along the lines of "don't like what we do? F U, pay me". Sony seized on this colossal anti-consumer fail and stole the spotlight from Redmond at the convention.

1. MS showed its failboat cards too early.
2. Sony made a killing out of those failboat cards. Turned an otherwise-anemic product announcement into a slam dunk.
3. MS was forced into damage control and ultimately fired the guy who said "F U, pay me".

RE: Windows Phone 7
By retrospooty on 9/25/2013 2:10:27 PM , Rating: 3
Bowing to pressure inst the same as listening, its bowing and to do that, they took away some of the great mobile stuff (and didnt have to) Plus you still cant do things like use your own internet service to watch your own Netflix on your XboxOne (that you will also own) unless you also Pay MS to have "gold" service. Bah.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By BRB29 on 9/25/2013 1:12:56 PM , Rating: 2
The only thing MS has proven over the past couple of years is that they don't care what you want. They want what they want and their products and features are designed to serve their agenda.

sounds like Apple too. Let them battle it out with their billions then. We, the consumers, only gain from this.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By sleepeeg3 on 9/25/2013 5:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
You mean like Apple?

RE: Windows Phone 7
By retrospooty on 9/25/2013 5:47:48 PM , Rating: 1
Sure, you could say that... The difference being Apple is successful in convincing people that they want what Apple wants to give them. LOL. Thus the term Sheeple.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By BSMonitor on 9/26/2013 1:24:49 PM , Rating: 3
Says the Google sheepie

RE: Windows Phone 7
By chµck on 9/25/2013 12:45:07 PM , Rating: 2
But they're already using windows phone.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By Flunk on 9/25/2013 12:50:11 PM , Rating: 2
Not for long, not only that Windows Phone 8 apps don't support Windows Phone 7.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By Jeffk464 on 9/25/2013 1:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, why not android users. I'm three months from a new phone.

RE: Windows Phone 7
By Mitch101 on 9/25/2013 2:02:57 PM , Rating: 2
I dont recall when they stopped selling Windows Phone 7 devices but I would guess its been over a year and close to time to upgrade anyhow.

What proportion of Windows Phone 8 apps are available for Windows Phone 7.x?

Key findings

More than 25,000 additional apps available for Windows Phone 8 compared to Windows Phone 7.8
83.5% of the apps available for Windows Phone 8 are also available for Windows Phone 7.8 (some may be different versions)
Just over 25% of the top 1,000 apps on Windows Phone 8 are either unavailable, or offered as lesser versions, on Windows Phone 7.8 devices
50% of apps submitted in the last 3 months run only on Windows Phone 8

RE: Windows Phone 7
By palmira_friend on 9/25/2013 3:32:15 PM , Rating: 2
my parents inlaw just got a 2013 Audi TT Convertible by working part time off of a computer. additional info..........

People should give it try
By YearOfTheDingo on 9/25/2013 12:05:59 PM , Rating: 3
The Lumia are awesome phones. Their best feature, for me at least, is the fact that the touch-screen works well even when you're wearing winter gloves. I live in a cold region so not having to remove your gloves before typing a message is a major plus. Another great feature on the Lumia is the map software. It's bar none the best in the business. The ability to download maps means you save a lot on roaming charges, which can get excessive over here in Europe.

RE: People should give it try
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2013 12:56:10 PM , Rating: 2
Google Earth supports download sections of the map as well.

RE: People should give it try
By FITCamaro on 9/25/2013 12:56:27 PM , Rating: 2

RE: People should give it try
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 1:31:32 PM , Rating: 3
Nokia's fully offline maps are better than Google's cached routes, and even more so once you meander off the pre-planned route (which happens far too often than not).

RE: People should give it try
By Jeffk464 on 9/25/2013 2:39:11 PM , Rating: 2
My understanding is that Nokia was one of the major mapping companies, they should be good.

RE: People should give it try
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 3:09:43 PM , Rating: 3
FITCamaro implied that Google Maps is as usable as Nokia's because the user can download routes. There is just one teething issue with that logic: Google still does not have offline mode for its maps, and cached routes don't count. As soon as the user needs to take a detour away from its pre-planned route, he needs a data connection or his Google Maps won't work.

Whereas for Nokia's maps, that data connection is optional.

By YearOfTheDingo on 9/25/2013 2:02:59 PM , Rating: 2
But don't you have to retrieve the map first, then tell Google Map to save the cached contents? On my Lumia, I just select say Germany and the entire country becomes available offline from then on. And do you get driving or public transit directions?

RE: People should give it try
By Reclaimer77 on 9/25/2013 6:32:19 PM , Rating: 2
Another great feature on the Lumia is the map software. It's bar none the best in the business.

That is such hyperbole! Come on. Both have pro's and con's, sure, but Google Maps is still the perennial gold standard.

The ability to download maps means you save a lot on roaming charges

Wow I got a 1990's flashback reading that. Who the hell gets charged for "roaming" anymore? They seriously do that still in Europe!!?? :(

By StevoLincolnite on 9/25/2013 6:54:57 PM , Rating: 2
That is such hyperbole! Come on. Both have pro's and con's, sure, but Google Maps is still the perennial gold standard.

Thankfully I have both on my Lumia.
But I agree with the other guy, Nokia's map software is indeed superior in my opinion.

By YearOfTheDingo on 9/27/2013 8:17:38 AM , Rating: 2
Roaming charges are like $0.05 per K when you're outside your home country even when it's the same freaking company providing the coverage. You can imagine just how quickly one bleeds money looking up directions. Offline map is perhaps one reason why WP's market share is in the teens in Europe while stuck in the low single digit in the US. It really matters a whole lot over here.

By retrospooty on 9/25/2013 12:01:17 PM , Rating: 2
Please... Please PLEASE!!! Someone buy our phones. We'll give you money!

By chripuck on 9/25/2013 1:14:53 PM , Rating: 2
They're giving you $200 for a phone that they'll turn around and sell for $450. You don't get a Windows Phone for free + $200, you get $200 towards a Windows Phone of your choice...

Even if Windows Phone was this great thing it still would be stupid.

By retrospooty on 9/25/2013 5:51:14 PM , Rating: 2
MS is clearly counting on Apple fans being stupid. Most of them are, but they are also very loyal and not likely to leave.

By Donkey2008 on 9/26/2013 3:09:40 AM , Rating: 4
After meeting the Android diehards in our IT dept I do not think they are any smarter than any Apple user I have met. In fact, they come off as pompous blowhards who cannot accept that some users just want to check email, make a call or run an occasional app, not mess with animated wallpaper or customizing their phone. To them it is just an e-peen contest that has nothing to do with functionality. They make all Android users look like petty, jealous children. I get a good laugh talking to them.

Signed - A Galaxy S4 owner

It's All About The Ecosystem
By smegz on 9/25/2013 2:34:46 PM , Rating: 2
I have both a Windows Phone 7 phone and an iPhone 4S. I love the Windows Phone interface, but I love the iPhones app selection. Microsoft hasn't delivered on enticing developers to make apps for its phones (could be the $99/year they charge for the privilege of developing for Windows Phone.) Until that happens, Microsoft's market share will continue to wallow in the single digits in the mobile markets.

RE: It's All About The Ecosystem
By EnzoFX on 9/25/2013 3:03:15 PM , Rating: 2
It's baffling. They must not care enough, or too stupid. With the Xbox, they couldn't stop throwing money at the problem, until it became a leader in consoles. With WPhone, they just can't seem to offer phones at a better price, or pay developers to port their apps. Why don't they throw money at this problem? They think they can compete on the merits of their out of date solution, with limited app selection...

By StevoLincolnite on 9/25/2013 6:59:13 PM , Rating: 2
The limited apps is a sticking point, but it's not the end of the world.
I've found I have an app for everything I could possibly need except for a couple.
For instance there isn't any App from my bank or local radio station.
The bank was easy to solve just make a Tile on the Home screen pointing to my account.
The radio station due to the phones lack of Flash support is annoying to say the least. :(

By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2013 1:57:11 AM , Rating: 2
Microsoft has subsidized and invested in every level of Windows Phone, it just hasn't worked. They HAVE been paying developers, it's just nobody wants to make WP apps. And they just bought Nokia because nobody else really wanted to make Windows phones, as there was not much profit in doing so.

By Argon18 on 9/25/2013 3:17:40 PM , Rating: 1
This is just like Microsoft's failed MSN internet access. They were begging people with a $600 best buy gift card to sign up for a 2 year agreement. We all know how that ended up.

Windows Phone is well on its way into the failed products rubbish bin of yesteryear. This $200 bribe is Microsoft attempt at clearing out stale unsold inventory before they end this failed experiment, just like Kin phone before it.

By ritualm on 9/25/2013 3:49:41 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, we should all just pretend the long decline of the iPhone never happened.


By Argon18 on 9/25/2013 4:30:37 PM , Rating: 1
Eh? The line was 3 blocks long at the Apple store near me this weekend. 3 city blocks.

How long are the lines for the Microsoft Surface and Phone? Oh right... they're empty, hence the reason they're getting pulled from store shelves, and they resorting to bribing customers to clear out unsold inventory. Lmao.

You can go back to sleep now.

By Da W on 9/25/2013 11:31:23 AM , Rating: 2
Target Samsung if you want a significant number of people to switch, you freaking baboons.

By ritualm on 9/25/13, Rating: -1
By Jeffk464 on 9/25/2013 2:40:16 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, that was a pretty cheesy move.

Microsoft's new strategy
By Nortel on 9/25/2013 11:35:57 AM , Rating: 1
Microsoft's going to turn around Nokia by buying iPhones and reselling them on Kijiji... for profit!

RE: Microsoft's new strategy
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 12:25:25 PM , Rating: 2
And it's wrong how? Apple does that too. Funny how that works.

Oh look, a talking lump of refuse, how novel!

If I profit I'll dump my iPhone
By tayb on 9/25/2013 12:17:35 PM , Rating: 2
If I can profit from the endeavor I'll dump my iPhone. I actually like the Lumia phones and wouldn't mind switching but I don't like them enough to pay to switch. What it would take for me to switch is that I get to pick a Lumia phone I want and then they also give me $200.

I put my iPhone 5 on craigslist and have offers for over $450 cash. I value that at a Microsoft store credit value of $700. So give me the Lumia, $200 of store credit, and I'll make the switch. Otherwise I'll wait for the Note 3.

windows phone 7
By Captain Awesome on 9/26/13, Rating: -1
"If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -- Scientology founder L. Ron. Hubbard

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