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Lexus HS 250h

Lexus CT 200h
Lexus HS 250h could get kicked to the curb

When it comes to hybrid vehicles, Toyota has had plenty of success with its Prius, Camry, and Highlander. Toyota's Lexus division also has a few hybrids in its portfolio, but premium pricing means that sales of these models pale in comparison to their plebeian Toyota counterparts. One model in particular, the HS 250h, is sinking in the marketplace.
 
Left Lane News (via Ward's Auto) is reporting that the Lexus division is looking to kill the HS 250h after it only found 205 U.S. buyers in October of this year. For the January through October 2011 period, sales for the hybrid dropped nearly 73 percent compared to the same period last year to fewer than 2,400 units.
 
The HS 250h has plenty of strikes against it; one of which is the pricing. The vehicle has a starting price of $37,000. The second issue is that the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid is larger, more fuel-efficient, and undercuts the HS 250h by a few thousand dollars. The third problem is that its CT 200h sibling starts at around $30,000, offers better fuel efficiency, greater cargo flexibility, and livelier handling.
 
In addition, the CT 200h appeals to a younger clientele that Lexus is desperately seeking -- the HS 250h on the other hand attracts a much older buyer (and not very successfully as the sales numbers prove).
 
Lexus has its work cut out for it if wants to build a successor to the HS 250h that actually strikes a chord with consumers. They could start by dropping the price, upping the fuel efficiency, and giving the vehicle an exterior that would actually make onlookers' pulse rise instead of flatline.

Sources: Left Lane News, Wards Auto (Subscription)



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Horrible car
By One43637 on 11/8/2011 7:44:53 PM , Rating: 5
I'm a Lexus owner, and when I got one of those for a loaner, I couldn't believe how cheap and crappy the car was. I promptly told my service advisor and he said he wouldn't sell the HS250 to someone he hated.




RE: Horrible car
By Shig on 11/8/2011 9:03:40 PM , Rating: 2
This was also another one of those joke hybrids and by that I mean they slapped a hybrid signature on the back and improved mileage by about 2mpg.


RE: Horrible car
By mead drinker on 11/8/2011 9:45:30 PM , Rating: 3
Who would've thought that a meagerly disguised corolla, in hybrid format, bloated with sound deadening as well as batteries, and marginally improved interior finishes compared to Toyota products priced in the high 30s would be such an abomination!


RE: Horrible car
By Samus on 11/9/2011 3:50:28 PM , Rating: 3
Of course its horrible. It's a Toyota Corolla, and if you've been in one of those, you know its a complete piece of crap by Toyota-standards: the cabin is a rattle-trap of plastics and the transmission is a buzz-bomb of epic proportion, every time you hit a bump the rear sounds like closing a drawer of cutlery.

The CT200 is far more attractive (at least its based on a Matrix, ie, the greatly improved Corolla platform) but realistically, there is no Lexus model under $40,000 that I'd consider luxury (they're all based on the Corolla, Camry or Matrix) and at that point, why aren't you buying a true luxury car like a Mercedes, BMW, Volvo or Audi?


Quick Note:
By someguy123 on 11/8/2011 8:15:30 PM , Rating: 5
Lexus to Reportedly Drop HS 250h Hybrid Due to Crappiness




By lamerz4391 on 11/9/2011 9:40:50 AM , Rating: 3
How could people not buy this beautiful machine that represented such great value and luxury!

/sarcasm




Not even good enough for a loaner
By dionx on 11/9/2011 1:38:45 AM , Rating: 2
Th HS 250 was the first hybrid car I've ever driven. It was given to me as a loaner car from Lexus while they were working on my GS 350. Maybe I was expecting more coming from a performance sedan, but every time I'm given a loaner car at Lexus, I specifically ask for anything but the HS 250.

The design was more boring than a Camry or Corolla, and the power was much to be desired. The luxury amenities didn't impress me enough make me consider the HS over any other model since other models offer more.




Camry Hybrid owns this car
By DukeN on 11/9/2011 12:02:07 PM , Rating: 2
And yes, I own a Camry hybrid.

The CamryH costs less, has more room and the same fuel economy. Comes with a lot of the bells and whistles too (keyless entry/start, etc).

And the Camry is now a first generation vehicle.




Price
By btc909 on 11/9/2011 9:04:40 PM , Rating: 2
Once I read what the price was I knew this pile was done & I didn't even know it was also a rattle trap. Oooo it's a hybrid with a Lexus name on it, WINNING!!!




By nofumble62 on 11/10/2011 12:30:52 AM , Rating: 2
why bother with hyrbid. It cost more to service, to insure.




Better than an MKZ and a CTh.
By HSOwner on 11/13/2011 6:47:18 PM , Rating: 2
I happen to be an owner of a 2010 HSh. I spend 2 hours a day in the car and find it a capable highway cruiser, and a competent handling car.

You have to keep in mind that this car is offered as the front wheel drive counterpart of the IS. My father has an IS, and the CT is a far superior car in many ways, far more usable interior and better configuration of trunk dimensions. But the IS is a better driver's car, which means than 80% of the time you're better off with the HS. Sure this car is not a sports car, nor is it supposed to be, but it is no slouch either. 0-60 in 8.4 seconds is far faster than a Prius and CTh, it is also faster than an MKz hybrid, and the Hyundia/Kia hybrids, and only a half a second slower than a Camry Hybrid. And the HS is not a Corolla, it doesn't share any parts, or even the wheel base. Saying that an HS is just a Lexi'fied Corolla is like saying that a Bentley Continental is a Bentley'fied VW Phaeton, so sod off.

The real world fuel consumption of the HS and MKz are almost identical, and the CT only about 2mpg more. I routinely get 39 mpg in my HS, which is above the EPA estimate and above the real world figures provided by the EPA.

Is the HS a winner? No it isn't. The CT has cannibalized the sales of the HS and the earthquake didn't help. Had the CT been available I might have considered one, just based on the advertised economy difference, however in the real world there isn't much difference. As for why Lexus is killing the HS, there will be an ES hybrid, but that wouldn't work for the current ES. The HS is a far more youthful car than the current ES, which is why I didn't buy one (I'm 28). The next generation ES probably will not be as much the mush-mobile that the current one and when I'm ready to trade my HS in I'll probably consider an ESh.




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By Iketh on 11/9/11, Rating: -1
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