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Lenovo's new tablet will ship in June

Lenovo accidentally leaked its new ThinkPad 10 tablet late last month on its Australian website, and quickly removed the product page once it realized its error. Today, however, the company is ready to officially announce its latest tablet offering.
As we previously reported, the 1.31-pound ThinkPad 10 comes with a 1920x1200 IPS display, quad-core Intel Atom Processor Z3795 (Bay Trail) processor, and can be paired with up to 4GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD. LTE connectivity is optional, and Lenovo promises up to 10 hours of battery life.

The Windows 8.1 tablet will also have a few optional accessories:
  • ThinkPad Tablet Dock ($119): includes three USB 3.0 ports, and HDMI port, and a Ethernet connectivity
  • ThinkPad 10 Ultrabook full sized keyboard ($129): includes ThinkPad “chiclet” keys, multi-touch trackpad, and a slot for the digitizer pen
  • Quickshot Cover ($59): a lightweight cover that provides quick access to the rear camera
“Our new ThinkPad 10 tablet marries business optimized features with a unique multimode design to offer an exceptional computing experience that allows users to work, play and create in virtually any environment,” said said Luis Hernandez, vice president and general manager for Lenovo’s ThinkPad group. ThinkPad 10 is engineered for quality you can touch and measure and is designed to adapt to be what you need, when you need it.”
The ThinkPad 10 has a starting price of $599 and will be available in June.

Source: Lenovo

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Really great price
By tayb on 5/13/2014 9:44:18 AM , Rating: 3
I have a feeling these tablets are going to sell extremely well when Windows 9 (or 8.2, whatever they call it) is released. At $599 this is a great price. The 32GB Nexus 10 and 16GB iPad are both $499. For $100 more you get a tablet that is infinitely more useful.

This also begs the question as to why the Surface Pro 2 is so freaking expensive.

RE: Really great price
By martyrant on 5/13/2014 9:51:13 AM , Rating: 3
As for the Surface Pro 2...maybe because it's using an ATOM for a processor?

As for the Nexus 10 and iPad, yeah, those will have some decent competition if this goes on sale or doesn't get inflated.

RE: Really great price
By ritualm on 5/13/2014 12:29:40 PM , Rating: 2
As for the Surface Pro 2...maybe because it's using an ATOM for a processor?

Nope, it's using the same ULV CPUs as conventional ultrabooks, only the form-factor is different. If you can game on your Macbook Air, guess what - I can do the same with a SP2.

RE: Really great price
By Mint on 5/13/2014 2:15:46 PM , Rating: 2
He just worded that poorly. He's saying the Surface Pro 2 is obviously much more expensive because the ThinkPad is using an Atom.

It's rather silly to compare this tablet to a Surface Pro 2, IMO.

RE: Really great price
By Alexvrb on 5/13/2014 11:33:44 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. It's not even in the same league as the Surface Pro 2. As more Bay Trail tablets hit the market, we'll see if Lenovo's pricing on this thing makes sense. If I were to hazard a guess, it would be more competitive at $500.

RE: Really great price
By Flunk on 5/13/2014 9:55:39 AM , Rating: 2
It depends on usage, if you have both a PC of some kind and a tablet the extra functionality isn't really a big draw. I'd rather have the Android for the app library and interface.

RE: Really great price
By kmmatney on 5/13/2014 10:17:14 AM , Rating: 3
This is a real windows computer, so all windows program are in it's "App Library". I think most of the most common Apps exist for Metro as well. With the dock station, this can become a desktop replacement.

RE: Really great price
By name99 on 5/13/2014 12:51:26 PM , Rating: 2
Like most of the great tech failures of the past (WebTV, OpenDoc, netbooks, XTerminals) you're praising the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Computing hardware is just not that expensive. Chips and screens are cheap. Good batteries remain expensive but even they are getting cheaper each year.

Which means a "solution" based on providing one sub-optimal piece of hardware to replace two pieces of more optimal hardware is just dumb. You'd be more happier and more productive owning a cheap laptop and a cheap tablet (and, in fact, a large screen to plug the laptop into) than with a high-end tablet and a dock.

There is a mindless obsession in the tech world for owning a single piece of hardware that is supposed to solve all your computer problems at once. It's, frankly, idiotic, regardless of how technically "cool" it may be.
Professionals don't use a Swiss Army knife to do everything from carpentry to plumbing, and even amateurs own both a hammer AND a screwdriver.

The only people these types of products make any sense for are people who are so poor that $500 is a serious expense, regardless of how much more productive the $500 would make you. But selling to poor people is a very tough business --- and selling products that are more expensive than they need to be (better build quality, better battery, better CPU etc) to people who by definition are buying the cheapest they can is a really strange business strategy --- kinda like running a warehouse type store (like 99c or Loehmann's or Costco) and then filling it with Louis Vuitton and Tiffany's merchandise at Louis Vuitton and Tiffany's prices.

RE: Really great price
By Manch on 5/13/2014 2:18:47 PM , Rating: 2
Swiss army knife may not be there main tool but I bet they have one! Well, probably a leatherman.

There's nothing idiotic about wanting an all in one device.

This tablet is what I wanted the surface 2 to be. It's powerful enough than I can dock it and use it as a desktop for all the endless paperwork I must do.

I can use it as a laptop while on the road or off site.

In tablet mode I can use it simply for media consumption or when doing inventories and other fun crap. Also I can use it for dataloggin my car. Lot better than tryig to strap a laptop down.

The baytrail proc sips power so the battery lasts all day.

That takes care of 95% of my computing needs.

When I have to actually do something that requires gobs of processing and graphics power Ill use my rig. For work, thats not that often.

Right now i have a surface pro and while the battery is a bit short, it takes care of 95% of my needs. I have a dell venue 8 pro as well. It's fast enough for doing the mundane tasks and all but there are no decent accessories to make it a true convergence device. Lenovo is being smart about how they are designing this.

RE: Really great price
By Mint on 5/13/2014 2:45:04 PM , Rating: 2
Same here. I wanted Surface 2 to basically be Surface Pro 2 with Bay Trail, including the stylus (and preferably a place to dock it).

I hope the keyboard covers work well and are light. If so, then I'm pretty much sold.

So did you wind up getting the touch cover for your Surface Pro? If so, how do you like it?

RE: Really great price
By Manch on 5/14/2014 2:27:33 PM , Rating: 2
I bought the original surface pro when it was on sale for $500! Then I picke up the type cover 2. I like it a lot. I even picked up the docking station. It sits with my hometheater. I use the Surface as my media PC. The touch cover 2 is lighter and types really well. Much better than the original touch cover and that thing was very easy to type on as well. The track pad on it sucks though. itll get you by but a bluetooth mouse is a must for me as I hate track pads period. The battery life last about 6-6.5 hours for me. I thought about getting the powercover but its hefty and while it does double the battery life, I just dont have the issue of being away from the wall that long. If you can live with the battery life, then I would recommend it over the surface pro 2. Its pretty much half the price. As for the weight, it doesnt bother me although it is hefty compared to ay other tablet but the benefit is it can run everything. Also if it's too heavy, you need to go to the gym!

This lenovo coming out though has piqued my interest.

RE: Really great price
By Mint on 5/13/2014 2:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, cause smartphones were such a failure, right?

Cellphone, pocket computer, camera, and GPS all in one. The camera is worse than a P&S, the computer is worse than a tablet (let alone a real PC), and it's bulkier than a dumbphone.

So why does it sell so well and decimate the sales of all standalone devices that do their job better? Because nobody wants to carry 4 different devices.

Whatever computer and tablet combo you're thinking of for the same price as this ThinkPad (or other 2-in-1's) will weigh far more, have worse battery life, or other compromises. If you don't move your laptop very much, then fine, you're obviously outside the target demographic, but a lot of people DO want a very portable PC.

I would never buy an ordinary tablet because I have a bigass phone that does anything a tablet does and more while always being on me. But a tablet that doubles as a 2lb PC? Now that could be useful.

RE: Really great price
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 7:52:38 PM , Rating: 2
"Which means a "solution" based on providing one sub-optimal piece of hardware to replace two pieces of more optimal hardware is just dumb. You'd be more happier and more productive owning a cheap laptop and a cheap tablet (and, in fact, a large screen to plug the laptop into) than with a high-end tablet and a dock."

Different needs for different people. Your scenario above works for many, maybe most, but not all. Some people want a single device that can do both. Some people dont want a "cheap laptop and a cheap tablet". Put them both together and you may have 2 cheap experiences to deal with.

Nether of those scenarios fits me, I have more computing devices than I can shake a stick and and even more on top of that if I count all the ones I have through work. But I can at least see both sides and why some people would want what you outlined and some would want one device that does both. It's not complicated, there are different options to suit different needs.

RE: Really great price
By Shadowmaster625 on 5/14/2014 9:10:33 AM , Rating: 1
As some one who was dumb enough to actually buy a windows 8.1 tablet, I can tell you without a doubt none of that matters. The OS is garbage, borderline unusable. There are so many bugs and glitches leading to so much frustration that the benefit of backwards (& desktop) compatibility is completely lost. Anyone buying a windows tablet is just throwing their money away.

RE: Really great price
By tayb on 5/13/2014 10:20:54 AM , Rating: 2
Windows application library > Android application library. This isn't Windows RT. Play Starcraft if you want.

RE: Really great price
By SpartanJet on 5/13/2014 11:08:28 AM , Rating: 2
LOL Windows apps >>>>> Adroid apps

My god, do people love micro transactions and cash shops that much?

RE: Really great price
By koenshaku on 5/13/2014 11:21:36 AM , Rating: 2
It is amazing isn't it? I use those devices and say cute then toss it to the side. No idea how they become PC replacements for so many people, but I am not your average user either though I guess.

RE: Really great price
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 11:37:27 AM , Rating: 3
I think what it comes down to is quite simple. These devices (Android, iOS, WinRT tablets, etc) are pretty much purely content consumption devices. Browse Facebook, play a few small games, check the weather. But that is what most people do. The majority of computer users don't even need productivity software. Most don't even need an office suite. These devices are really only PC replacements because the PC is never really what they needed in the first place.

RE: Really great price
By Da W on 5/13/2014 10:08:06 AM , Rating: 1
Haswell core i5. Bumps the price by 300$! And i've had a surface pro since it came out, i can say it's overpowered for most tasks (except that i can play starcraft or civ5 on it). A simple baytrail will do the job.

BUT, even better would be a Nvidia Tegra k1 tablet with streming from your PC like the Shield. Flaw: would be Windows RT.
So even better yet would be an AMD platform if they worked out something like Nvidia Streaming on an X86 APU tablet, oh my god that's all i need!

RE: Really great price
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 11:06:56 AM , Rating: 2
Not really... The Core i5 4200u is listed by Intel at $280, but OEM's dont buy at that price. They buy by the 1000's and get massive discounts for it... That and the quad core Atom in the tablet above isn't exactly free of charge. It's more but not $300 more. Probably more like $150, $200 max.

Ultimately you would have to decide on your usage and if its worth it. If you are buying a Windows x86 tablet to use while on the go or as a secondary system, go with the cheaper. If it is designed to be your main PC and you need more horsepower, go Haswell.

RE: Really great price
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 11:18:39 AM , Rating: 2
Don't forget that the Surface Pro also comes with a digitizer. The VaperMg casing is probably also added to the cost as well as a premium.

RE: Really great price
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 12:03:13 PM , Rating: 2
Ya... I dunno. I am leaning toward a Yoga 2 pro if I go convertible... It's a bit bigger, faster, better. Still convertible, and a rediculously high res 3200x1800 screen and Lenovo's legendary build quality. Best in the industry every year.

RE: Really great price
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 12:20:44 PM , Rating: 2
I've got one myself and I love it. Highly recommended. My only complaint is that 13" is a bit on the smaller size for a laptop in my book. I would've preferred 15", but it's not a huge deal.

RE: Really great price
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 12:24:31 PM , Rating: 2
Nice... I like the 13's. To me, the point of a laptop is to be easily portable. 13 is a good combo between portable and powerful enough to get real work done.

RE: Really great price
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 3:30:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah the portability of the thing is quite awesome I'll give you that :)

RE: Really great price
By Mint on 5/13/2014 6:40:51 PM , Rating: 2
FYI, this ThinkPad 10 has a digitizer also.

RE: Really great price
By kyuuketsuki on 5/13/2014 12:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
It's not just the Core i5 that bumps up the price. You're also talking an actual SSD versus eMMC (this Thinkpad will be using eMMC, not a proper SSD, as I'm pretty sure Bay Trail only supports eMMC), more RAM, the Wacom digitizer, the VaporMg casing, etc. The Surface Pro is pricey, but it's not overpriced.

RE: Really great price
By retrospooty on 5/13/2014 1:42:25 PM , Rating: 2
I know , it has other things beyond CPU. I was just pointing out that the CPU wasnt a $300 upgrade.

As far as value, I would say the Yoga 2 and/or Yoga 2 pro are both far better. There are other convertibles as well that stack up against the Surface well.

RE: Really great price
By Da W on 5/13/2014 3:29:12 PM , Rating: 2
Surface pro with core i5 can do some serious number crunching. It is a powerful computer. I argue at work that it's the only computer we would ever need... with a dock, a 24" screen, mouse and keyboard... detach it from the dock while you're on the go.

In practice though (been using it for 2 years), big number crunching is done on my big desktop. My surface is a laptop replacement but not a pc replacement, and for that, a simple atom (or mullins!) would do the job for most people.

RE: Really great price
By koenshaku on 5/13/2014 11:19:38 AM , Rating: 2
This looks cool they are trying to get this out to take some steam off Microsoft's surface announcement on May 20th we'll see how this holds up. I think surface would be perfect with an 11" screen just a little larger than the 10".

RE: Really great price
By inighthawki on 5/13/2014 11:31:47 AM , Rating: 2
The surface is already 10.6". I'd have trouble picturing 0.4" making a significant/noticeable difference.

RE: Really great price
By kyuuketsuki on 5/13/2014 12:47:11 PM , Rating: 2
Surface Pro is more expensive because a full Core i5 with an actual SSD (despite what this "article" states, this Thinkpad will be using eMMC as I don't believe Bay Trail supports an interface for using a proper SSD), the Wacom digitizer, etc. is much more expensive.

I actually don't think this Thinkpad is all that great of a price, assuming that the base price doesn't include the 4GB of RAM and 128GB of eMMC, which I'm pretty sure it doesn't. You can already get the HP Omni 10 with 32GB of storage and 2GB of RAM for $350, which is otherwise identical.

Battery life?
By stmok on 5/13/2014 9:48:13 AM , Rating: 2
Given that its a portable system, what kind of battery life does it have? How does it compare to its predecessor?

RE: Battery life?
By kyuuketsuki on 5/13/2014 12:49:04 PM , Rating: 2
Given that this is a press release and the actual tablet isn't coming out until June, there isn't really any way to know. I can say that there are Bay Trail tablets that get comparable, if not better, battery life than Android or Apple tabs already.

Incorrect screen resolution
By SpartanJet on 5/13/2014 11:42:52 AM , Rating: 2
They are offering a 1920x1200 IPS screen not 1920x1080.

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