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Chromecast just got a little bit more awesome

Google’s popular Chromecast streaming stick is about to receive a functionality update that was first announced during Google I/O. By simply selecting the “Cast Screen” option from the Chromecast app, users will now be able to mirror their Android smartphone or tablet’s screen to your television.
 
Users will no longer have to wait on a case-by-case basis to see if their favorite app will support casting to a Chromecast.

 
Google says that the feature is currently in beta, but will be available within the next week via a new update for the Chromecast app (ver. 1.7). Unfortunately, just because you own Android smartphone/tablet doesn’t mean that you’ll be able to take advantage of this new functionality.

 
According to Google, only a handful of devices from HTC, LG, and Samsung are supported initially, although support for additional devices is “coming soon.”

Source: Official Google Blog



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Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/9/2014 7:42:11 PM , Rating: 5
How is this any different than Miracast?

Miracast Wireless Display with Windows 8.1 - Stream PC to TV without Adapters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQo6fgJ6eqU

Miracast on a Nexus 7 Tablet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfvYayclLqY

Not sure Android will let you but with Windows 8.1 you can extend your display through Miracast.




RE: Miracast
By ChronoReverse on 7/9/2014 7:44:18 PM , Rating: 2
The difference is the Chromecast adapter costs $30


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/9/2014 8:18:29 PM , Rating: 4
I've seen Miracast dongles for $17.00 and its also built into some newer TV's.

Miracast is not proprietary either. Lets say you want to stream your Windows PC to your TV or your friends come over and they have an iOS device, Windows phone, or Android device. Any of them can put it on the big screen.

I think its great they are expanding functionality and if your entire eco system is all Android it might make sense but Id rather have something more open.


RE: Miracast
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 8:22:17 PM , Rating: 2
"I've seen Miracast dongles for $17.00 "

Got link? Anything under $50 from a reputable vendor (like not Coby)?


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/9/2014 8:34:56 PM , Rating: 2
EZCast
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Factory-price-2014-...

EZChrome EZCast is a Google Chromecast knockoff with Miracast support
http://liliputing.com/2014/02/ezchrome-ezcast-goog...


RE: Miracast
By ChronoReverse on 7/9/2014 8:43:03 PM , Rating: 2
Do you have a link where it's in stock? Amazon has it for $42


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/9/2014 9:00:54 PM , Rating: 2
2014Newest M2 EZcast media player TV stick better than V5II DLNA Miracast Airplay better than ----- ---------
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Biggest-Di...


RE: Miracast
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 10:35:07 PM , Rating: 2
Sweet. Thanks

I have never heard of this company, but 97% positive ratings of over 200 users is more than good enough for any $20 tech item.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 8:09:40 AM , Rating: 2
lol wow. They purposely designed that to look JUST like Chromecast. Even the logo is a ripoff.

Why are you here peddling this Chinese knock-off product? Seriously, do you have THAT much of a problem with Google?

For a few dollars more you can get the real thing, from actual reputable websites. No thank you.


RE: Miracast
By ChronoReverse on 7/10/2014 10:43:57 AM , Rating: 2
It's actually an interesting product because a lot of things are compatible with Miracast. I hadn't known that the Miracast receivers had dropped this much in price for instance and I appreciated the information,


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 11:14:29 AM , Rating: 2
Im actually peddling Miracast and that it can be found for $17.00 and its not limited to one OS.

While most people may have an Android device Im pretty sure most of them have a Windows PC so there are functional advantages of using Miracast instead of a closed platform.

For instance streaming Hulu which generally has restrictions when not streaming from a PC or maybe you want the video game your playing to also display on your HDTV or in my case my Projector.

No more codec issues with dedicated streaming devices either because Miracast is a clone of your PC.

The question back to you would be why does Google need a closed platform when a perfectly open standard already exists with Miracast?


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/14, Rating: 0
RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 1:11:37 PM , Rating: 3
CLOSED PLATFORM
Can I Mirror my mother in laws iPhone to Chromecast - NO
Can I Mirror my Windows phone to Chromecast - NO
Can I Mirror or extend my Windows PC Screen to Chromecast = NO
Can I Mirror an Android device to Chromecast = YES Android Only

OPEN PLATFORM
Can I Mirror my mother in laws iPhone to Miracast - YES
Can I Mirror my Windows phone to Miracast - YES
Can I Mirror or extend my Windows PC Screen to Miracast - YES
Can I Mirror an Android device to Miracast = YES


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 2:00:13 PM , Rating: 1
Not yet. I'm sure a lot of that functionality is coming in future updates.

But whatever, congrats, you've accomplished your goal here of shi*ting all over Chromecast... Sheesh. How dare Google add free functionality to the device.


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 3:03:24 PM , Rating: 3
Really you can find this in my second posting where I pay it a compliment.
quote:
I think its great they are expanding functionality and if your entire eco system is all Android it might make sense but Id rather have something more open. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=36192...

Reminder77 - Take your meds today?


RE: Miracast
By ShaolinSoccer on 7/10/2014 2:04:54 PM , Rating: 2
I read some reviews for Miracast and some people were saying the range was not as good as Chromecast. Do you know if that is true. Also, is mirroring all that Miracast can do, or can it also have apps like Netflix, Youtube, Hulu Plus etc. etc..


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 2:14:07 PM , Rating: 2
Mirroring is ALL Miracast can do.

For Mitch to compare it to Chromecast this vehemently, is just criminally insane.


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 3:05:25 PM , Rating: 2
Why do I need it to do more when the device its Mirroring can do everything? There are plenty of remote controls out there.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 3:09:52 PM , Rating: 2
Because phones, tablets, and laptops have these things called "batteries"?

Okay I'll start a Netflix binge session with a Chromecast using my phone. You do one with Miracast. First one who grabs his charger loses.


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 3:22:14 PM , Rating: 2
Good Question ShaolinSoccer I don't know.

I think a lot of it depends on how good a wifi signal the device transmits/receives and if there are any obstacles. I would imagine stick location behind a big Tv and thick wall might reduce some of those distance numbers. So YMMV? Miracast says 30ft and personally I think that plenty cant see much use for something further away. My PC is about 20ft from my projector with one wall between them.

Im sure there will be some reviews coming from sites to make a better decision.


RE: Miracast
By althaz on 7/10/2014 1:03:54 AM , Rating: 2
Have you got Google? I've bought four of them and haven't paid more than ~$20 US (and stuff is dearer in Australia, where I live).


RE: Miracast
By Nyanyanya on 7/10/2014 3:01:02 AM , Rating: 2
$70 in Europe, so it doesn't "cost $30".


RE: Miracast
By GotThumbs on 7/10/2014 10:50:25 AM , Rating: 2
With current exchange rate of 1.359, $30.00 US = 40.77 Euros. This does NOT account for your average 20% (~8 EU) VAT taxes or the added import taxes You the consumer will pay.

Margaret Thatcher: “There are significant differences between the American and European version of capitalism. The American traditiionally emphasizes the need for limited government, light regulations, low taxes and maximum labour-market flexibility. Its success has been shown above all in the ability to create new jobs, in which it is consistently more successful than Europe.”


RE: Miracast
By Jeffk464 on 7/9/2014 8:35:38 PM , Rating: 2
wow, this is super cool.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/9/2014 11:17:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not sure Android will let you


Android has natively supported Miracast since Jelly Bean.

But you seem to not understand the differences between Miracast and Chromecast. Miracast is a mirroring solution: that's it.

Chromecast in web app mode works like a media player embedded in an HTML 5 page. The Apps in your mobile device pass the URL and some other properties to Chromecast, which do the rest. So Chromecast actually handles the file and send output to the TV. The app in your mobile device may do something else.

So yeah if ALL you want to do is extend your display, and lose the ability to multi-task, hosing the battery life of your device, by all means get a Miracast dongle.

But don't kid yourself, Chromecast can mirror AND act as a media player and more.


RE: Miracast
By althaz on 7/10/2014 1:46:16 AM , Rating: 2
Can you still use your phone for other things while playing video through Chromecast? That's not what I've seen (but if so, cool).

If not, Miracast was far superior (was, now that Chromecast supports the same thing, there's little difference if you have only Android Phones/Tablets). Personally, as we have a range of devices in our home, Chromecast is worthless and Miracast is brilliant (although I don't use Miracast for watching media through my tablet, it's easier to just use DLNA which is built into every modern TV).


RE: Miracast
By xti on 7/10/2014 9:52:13 AM , Rating: 2
yes, you can do other things on your phone while your tv is showing the movie or w/e


RE: Miracast
By crimson117 on 7/10/2014 10:00:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Can you still use your phone for other things while playing video through Chromecast? That's not what I've seen (but if so, cool).
Rather than constantly streaming through your phone to the Chromecast, your phone just sends a quick message telling the Chromecast to stream the movie by itself. You could then turn off your phone entirely and Chromecast continues streaming.

This is true for all Chromecast-native services, including as Netflix, Hulu, HBO GO, Google Play Movies/Music, Youtube, MLB, ESPN. Chromecast has a built-in ability to stream media from these services without help from a smartphone.

I've never tried it, but think if you want to stream non-native services (vimeo? amazon video?), then your phone would need to act as the conduit and you'd need to keep it on while streaming. As for multitasking while streaming, that probably depends on your phone.


RE: Miracast
By N8SLC on 7/11/2014 12:34:25 PM , Rating: 2
All you need is the mobile Chrome browser for Vimeo. Put the video you're watching in full screen mode and the Chromecast icon will appear. I've used this on many web sites.


RE: Miracast
By Flunk on 7/10/2014 9:00:03 AM , Rating: 2
The Chromecast should have supported Miracast from the start, the only reason it doesn't is to lock you in to Google's ecosystem. Yes, the streaming features are useful. But a more general-purpose function like Miracast could help fill in the gaps.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 9:08:21 AM , Rating: 1
If Google wanted to lock you into something, Android wouldn't natively support Miracast. I mean that's just common sense right there. They don't HAVE to support it, you know?

Or they would just pull support for it and push Chromecast.

Besides, most people are "locked in" to Google anyway. If you're mirroring an Android device anyway, I don't think Google cares much what solution you choose. They've "got you" either way don't they?

Streaming features useful? "Useful"? That was the entire POINT of Chromecast. An affordable and universal streaming solution in a sea of proprietary set-top boxes and gaming consoles.

The mirroring is just extra topping on the cake. For around $30 it's hard to find a whole lot to complain about.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 10:23:20 AM , Rating: 1
If you want to see what someone trying to "lock people" in really looks like, go check out Apple and that Airplay nonsense.


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 11:30:08 AM , Rating: 2
No Sh1t.

My question was could you Extend the Android desktop for multiple screens as usual you took a portion of my quote to make it serve your argument even when I did post a Nexus 7 using Miracast too. Who again makes the Nexus 7? /sarcasm off

If Chromecast supported Miracasting instead of its proprietary OS It would be a winner.

Its great they added functionality but Id rather have Miracast. To each their own.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/14, Rating: 0
RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 1:15:31 PM , Rating: 4
Really very first post contains a NEXUS 7 if anyone is transparent its YOU.

Your the reason Im looking at making a DT clone that is Reclaimer free.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/14, Rating: 0
RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 3:00:50 PM , Rating: 2
An Android Fan and Apple hater had trouble with an iPhone update news at ll.

ROFLMAO!

Jason might be quite the comedian to have quoted you. I have to wonder if he did it as an inside/personal joke.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 3:07:14 PM , Rating: 2
Hey do you smell something? It's the sweet sweet smell of your jelly flavored tears!


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2014 3:52:25 PM , Rating: 3
Oh yes I'm crushed its always been my life long dream to have an article referencing one of my rants.


RE: Miracast
By gixser on 7/10/2014 4:45:07 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I mean you seem to think you're better than me, but your opinions just don't seem to be valued here.


That's pretty funny.

Reclaimer77's lifetime post rating is 1.59 on 17552 comments.
Mitch101's lifetime post rating is 2.33 on 4921 comments.

Personally, I do come here for the freak show.....so in that respect I probably wouldn't visit Mitch's Reclaimer77 free "Dailytech" unless I actually wanted daily tech.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/11/2014 9:36:35 AM , Rating: 2
Mitch has "quit" Daily Tech three times now as far as I can recall. He claims he's better than Daily Tech, that he's going to go create his own website that's "Reclaimer free" or whatever, but he always comes back here.

Interpret that as you will, but that's just kinda...strange behavior imo.

And his rating is only a fraction of a percentage better than mine. Not sure why you even brought that up. Mitch, for example, ONLY talks about Microsoft. He doesn't engage in political discussions where just being on the "wrong side" of an issue gets your an automatic -1.


RE: Miracast
By Mitch101 on 7/11/2014 10:51:18 AM , Rating: 2
Please show me the post where I claimed to be better than DT?

I have made plenty of comments that the articles have improved greatly and that I enjoy reading them.

I think I recently thanked one the authors for the heads up on the uncharged device heads up at airports.

I do post much less and find the free time beneficial.

I find it funny you started a huge p1ss1ng argument when on the very first post had an Android device.

I think this place would be much better without you because you start a fight where there is none. You could have stated the benefits of Chromecast instead you turned it into a personal war that didn't exist.

I believe you actually convince people to not buy Android/Google and Samsung with your rants.


RE: Miracast
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/11/2014 12:42:19 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you. You put it much nicer than me and other people here would, but really, he's trash.


RE: Miracast
By Reclaimer77 on 7/11/2014 12:56:07 PM , Rating: 2
lol Koolaid still trying after getting beat down like Rodney King the other day.

You're just too dumb to know when to quit.


RE: Miracast
By retrospooty on 7/11/2014 2:22:20 PM , Rating: 1
As opposed to you, who keeps coming back to a site he hates with multiple logins specifically to post on behalf of a company. reclaimer calls it like he sees it. You are trash. The worst kind of trash, the kind that is here on a clandestine agenda. He may be overly passionate about what he believes and you can certainly call him argumentative and abrasive, but you are mentally imbalanced my friend.


RE: Miracast
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/13/2014 10:31:27 PM , Rating: 2
Multiple logins, yes, because there is only one person who thinks reclaimer is a bigoted MRA tea partier and a technically ignorant moron that drags down wherever he is.

/s

Please. Just because you sock puppet accounts and votes doesn't mean everyone else does.


RE: Miracast
By retrospooty on 7/14/2014 2:34:30 PM , Rating: 2
Ummm... Yeah, OK, TYP. Good point.


Late to the party
By JackBurton on 7/9/14, Rating: 0
RE: Late to the party
By ChicoMonster on 7/10/2014 3:43:28 AM , Rating: 2
I know Steve Jobs told you that 4 inches was enough but that's what all egomaniacs tell themselves. Wake up.


RE: Late to the party
By atechfan on 7/10/2014 7:49:52 AM , Rating: 3
I get e-mails all the time telling me that 4 inches isn't enough, but they have a pill that will fix that.


RE: Late to the party
By CZroe on 7/10/2014 11:11:36 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, Steve Jobs told everyone that 3.5" was "perfect" and that anything more would be "too much." iPhone 5 *supposedly* had his blessing but he wasn't around to stick his foot in his mouth over that one same as he wasn't around to admit that the demand for a smaller iPad was real and justified.


RE: Late to the party
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 8:34:29 AM , Rating: 2
No, not at all based in reality. Android has supported Miracast for a long time. This is just a change to the cheap Chromecast dongle interface. The other thing is Apple, as always support's Apple devices, where you can use anything to cast to Chromecast and Miracast.


RE: Late to the party
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/10/2014 10:10:36 AM , Rating: 2
My receiver from 2010 supports Airplay. Didn't use it since I didn't have an iPhone but there have been compatible devices for a long time.


RE: Late to the party
By Reclaimer77 on 7/10/2014 10:19:32 AM , Rating: 2
Hey idiot, the point is not EVERY receiver and device supports Airplay.

But they ALL have an HDMI port. Hello? Wtf, are you really this thickheaded?


RE: Late to the party
By retrospooty on 7/10/2014 11:09:11 AM , Rating: 2
" Wtf, are you really this thickheaded"

You know, I don't think he is... He is pulling a ritual. Lost the argument, cant back out and is just trying desperately to change the subject and/or catch someone in a mental error, even on a separate thread.

It's absolutely hilarious to watch this clown.


RE: Late to the party
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/11/2014 12:35:15 PM , Rating: 2
Hey idiot,

quote:
The other thing is Apple, as always support's Apple devices


Many non-Apple devices support things like Airplay and Miracast out of the box. iOS has huge support from third parties, both through direct conection and wireless. A quick Google search has everything from $150 Sony receivers to premium ones from Marantz with AirPlay built in.

quote:
But they ALL have an HDMI port.


Yes, so you can use a Chromecast (which I do own and which fully supports iOS), an AppleTV, an XBox, whatever you want, because that is an aftermarket accessory, not something built in. Way to change the subject.

The post I was replaying to was regarding support for the iOS ecosystem from third parties without any additional hardware. Not only has it existed, its existed since 2010.

Are you really this thickheaded?


RE: Late to the party
By KoolAidMan1 on 7/11/2014 12:39:56 PM , Rating: 2
I mean, AirPlay support in receivers has been there back when Eclair was standard. That's ancient history, but somehow this is some new amazing thing.

And don't get me wrong, the Chromecast is a nice piece of hardware, especially given the price. I've owned once since it was released. It is still limited compared to a Roku (which I also own) or AppleTV but it keeps getting better.


KitKat and up only?
By CZroe on 7/9/2014 8:25:32 PM , Rating: 2
My Chromecast app is still 1.5.5 instead of the needed 1.7 and there is no update available even though the Play store shows today's date for the latest version. I do have a compatible device (Gnote3). I needed to keep root with Knox at 0x0 and I haven't yet had the chance to try GeoHot's KitKat root tool, so I am still on 4.3 Jellybean.




RE: KitKat and up only?
By CZroe on 7/10/2014 7:15:43 PM , Rating: 2
Finally got the update today and the date on the Play Store is today's as well not sure why this article or Google's couldn't mention the 4.4.2 KitKat requirement, but the updated description in the Play Store made it clear. :(


Sweet...
By retrospooty on 7/9/2014 6:10:49 PM , Rating: 2
That makes Chromecast a lot more convenient.




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