quote: Apple is now worth more than Microsoft and Google combined
quote: Try to install e.g. Linux Ubuntu on your average HP notebook and feel the pain: WiFi not working, video camera not working, hardware buttons not working, video hardware acceleration not working, sound not working etc..
quote: Half the world runs on Microsoft, by choice. Apple makes gadgets for hipsters and housewives.
quote: If Apple makes a bad move they risk their stock price spiraling out of control.
quote: Overvalued based on what metric?
quote: It won't happen though, and their price will continue to be driven by actual revenue and profit rather than lofty expectations/dreams of growth.
quote: Apple being "worth" more than ExxonMobile? That's all the metric you need. Of course Apple is overvalued. Only an iTard like you would suggest otherwise.
quote: Companies within the tech industry are being incorrectly valued, and we're heading for another tech bubble.
quote: That's patently false. Apple cannot keep growing forever at the rate investors expect, at some point market saturation will be reached or a bad decision will lead to a poor quarter etc etc. When that happens, investors will get weary. There is already a considerable debate by insiders as to weather Apple is a growth or value stock. The fact that they're sitting on tons of capital, and refuse to pay dividends, is holding some sway on that debate.
quote: I've said it again and again, but you should really start using hard numbers and logic to create arguments rather than basing them on rhetoric and emotion.
quote: Are tech stocks routinely overvalued in general? Sometimes yes. This is one such period.
quote: I've beaten you with logic in every single argument we've had, technical and otherwise.
quote: There are many ways to value a stock. PE matters here because actual revenue is the main thing driving AAPL's stock price, not speculation on future growth.
quote: Anyway, people have been saying that Apple is overvalued for almost a decade now, and they give no real reason aside from "because Apple hurr durr"
quote: WOW you really ARE channeling Steve Jobs aren't you? Amazing someone with such a big head can still cram it up his own ass.
quote: And they have all always been wrong every time because you didn't agree. What an ego!
quote: Secondly, this is mostly opinion anyway. There is no solid metric to determine undervalue or overvalue.
quote: That's patently false. Apple cannot keep growing forever at the rate investors expect
quote: Right, and this is a huge reason why Apple's PE is as low as it is. It isn't being priced as a growth stock, that's the whole point. It is priced very conservatively with a price-to-earnings ratio similar to stagnant companies that pay out a dividend. If Apple was priced as a growth stock, even conservatively, it would be worth more than it is now. A moderate 20 PE of Google's would put it over $700, which is insane.
quote: I can't think of anyone who would actually say Windows is a superior OS to osX.
quote: Hell osX is based on FreeBSD (unix) and you can't help but applaud Apple for being the one to bring unix to the masses.
quote: The world runs on Windows simply because Microsoft licensed out their operating system with healthy contracts first.
quote: Just because something is popular does not make it better
quote: Are you trying to say that businesses could not use osX? What magical reasoning do you have to support this?
quote: Apple is a software company
quote: they are kicking Microsoft and Google's collective asses
quote: It is hard to tout Microsoft's superiority when their market share is slipping every quarter to Apple
quote: I'd like to know in all your wisdom how you fail to mention Windows Vista and how wonderful an OS that was
quote: Going back to 2000 is an excellent point, they grew from little cash to $100 billion in only 12 years and yet you write them off as some shit company
quote: I think you meant the failed Zune, not the iPod
quote: I don't understand your point
quote: nobody runs windows server anymore unless they are getting major kickbacks
quote: quickly shrinking MS OS numbers?
quote: That same company whom has "laughable absolute marketshare numbers for desktop".
quote: Apple made its fortune off of a variety of products, not just off the iPhone