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The fourth generation iPad returns to lineup at Apple

Apple first introduced the iPad 2 just over three years ago, which makes it quite ancient in today’s fast-paced tech world. However, Apple has continued to sell the device as one of its entry-level tablets with a price tag of $399.
 
Today, Apple is finally kicking the iPad 2 (with its non-Retina display and older 30-pin dock connector) to the curb in favor of the fourth generation iPad with Retina Display. The $399 price and 16GB capacity remain, but you get a faster A6X processor (instead of the older A5), Retina display (obviously) and the Lightning Dock connector.

“Now for $399 customers can get iPad with a stunning 9.7-inch Retina display, fast A6X chip, and 5MP iSight camera, offering a dramatic upgrade in power, performance and value compared to the iPad 2 it replaces,” said Apple's Philip Schiller. “The iPad line sets the gold-standard in mobile computing and all iPads have access to the largest and best ecosystem of more than 500,000 iPad optimized apps from the App Store.”

 
If users prefer to have a cellular connection, you can also opt to add LTE connectivity for an additional $130.
 
Both the Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi+LTE models are currently available from the Apple Store.

Source: Apple



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iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/18/2014 1:13:50 PM , Rating: 3
I love how Apple pretends the iPad 3 never existed. You know, for those 8 months it was out. I foolishly bought the highest end model. And everyone acts like it never happened. Apple can get away with anything and people ignore their faults and praise anything they do well, the exact opposite of the way people treat Microsoft.




RE: iPad 3!
By name99 on 3/18/2014 1:52:40 PM , Rating: 2
WTF are you talking about?
In what sense does Apple "pretend" that the iPad3 never existed?


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/18/2014 4:05:22 PM , Rating: 2
Find a reference to it anywhere. It's as rare with them as Windows ME is with Microsoft. They sold the iPad 2 for another 18 months after the iPad 3 was released. The iPad 3 was immediately discontinued when the 4 launched. They specifically called iPad 3 and 4 "iPad with Retina Display" to hide the difference. iPad 2 is iPad 2, the 5 is called iPad Air.

Think about that, why would they sell the iPad 2 and iPad 4 for so long? I'd be happy if someone would just acknowledge that from April to September is not a long enough product life cycle. As soon as the iPad 4 was released Apple dropped all reference to and sale of iPad 3. Nobody ever points that out. It was a ripoff. Millions of people bought one and it was a waste of their money.


RE: iPad 3!
By retrospooty on 3/18/2014 4:15:24 PM , Rating: 1
Apple released the iPad 3 - it was thicker and heavier than they wanted, and it also ran hotter... So they replaced it as quickly as they could. I see nothing wrong with that, I would have done the same if I were Apple. No one forced you to buy it and it didnt stop working when the iPad 4 came out, so what's the issue?


RE: iPad 3!
By sgestwicki on 3/19/2014 7:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
The issue is more of an annoyance that the latest and greatest was replaced so quickly. A lot of people would have waited for the 4th generation if they knew that it would be released a lot sooner than the rest of Apple's product cycles.


RE: iPad 3!
By retrospooty on 3/19/2014 8:34:38 AM , Rating: 2
So its not really about what it does and it's performance, its just not "the latest and greatest" ? Sounds pretty petty TBH...

That is pretty much true of any tech, if you want to wait for the next thing to come out before buying you will never buy anything because something better is always on the way. The next new model doesn't take anything away from the old, it still has the same specs and works the same way it did prior to the new release.


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/21/2014 2:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
Apple has an established pattern of iPad releases. They broke it with the iPad 3 and only the iPad 3. For me it's nothing to do with latest and greatest, but otherwise the post above is correct. They should never have released a product they weren't happy with. Have any of you people defending it actually used one? Even the Anandtech review noted that it just barely had the throughput to drive the display. Nobody else finds it suspicious that it was replaced only eight months after release? Name another product that has happened to, especially an Apple one.


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/21/2014 2:39:27 PM , Rating: 2
No, no one forced me to buy it. They just deceived me. You said yourself, it was thicker, slower, and hotter than they wanted. Why did they release it? You think it was a good thing that they replaced it as quickly as they could? You honestly don't see the issue with that? Nobody ever said it stopped working when the iPad 4 came out. I'm starting to think that people on the Internet are unreasonably attached to some companies and argue more out of emotion than reason...


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/21/2014 2:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
Also, the problem with your argument is that they didn't replace it. They continued to sell the iPad 2. If the iPad 3 was just fine, why did they replace it and sell the iPad 2 for over another full year?


RE: iPad 3!
By michael2k on 3/18/2014 4:23:06 PM , Rating: 1
It's literally in stock on Apple's refurbished iPad store:
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals...

It's not like it doesn't exist, it just got replaced twice over now (first with the iPad, 4th gen, then with the iPad Air.


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/21/2014 2:47:40 PM , Rating: 2
Please confirm for me, how far was it between releases of iPads? Was not the time between the 3 and 4 the shortest by far, even suspiciously short?


RE: iPad 3!
By name99 on 3/18/2014 5:11:49 PM , Rating: 3
I bought one, and am still using it. I've got, what, so far, 2.5 years or so of high value out it.
I hardly consider it a "waste of my money".

Sounds to me like your primary complaint is that Apple isn't giving you free upgrades to the hardware you brought from them.
Good luck finding another company that WILL give you such a deal.


RE: iPad 3!
By car_analogy on 3/21/2014 2:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
How does it sound like the problem is a lack of free upgrades? I never said that, and obviously I am still getting free software updates. What I did say is that I see a problem with them releasing a product that they clearly were not pleased with, but of course pretending that it was part of their normal product refresh cycle. Then it was replaced eight months later with something that DID work well, and which was on the market for well over a year before it was replaced. You don't see a problem with that? I wouldn't be so annoyed if I hadn't bought an LTE 32 GB model. I spent money that I could have spent on a computer that would be much more future proof. Instead I bought a dead end. It wasn't a waste of money, but you must admit it was deceptive on Apple's part.


RE: iPad 3!
By robinthakur on 4/1/2014 8:51:39 AM , Rating: 2
It was not deceptive in the slightest, your 3 hasn't stopped working. They make 64GB and 128GB models as well, so you could have paid a lot more. I'd be willing to bet that for what you use it for 99% it behaves the same as a 4 anyway, so what's the point in getting so riled up? I've no idea where you get that the 3 "doesn't work well", or has some massive flaw! From what I can see, the iPad 3 works perfectly well, you just have a bee in your bonnet about frankly very little.


RE: iPad 3!
By amanojaku on 3/18/2014 2:07:00 PM , Rating: 2
It's not just Microsoft. The same is true for Google, HTC, Lenovo, LG, Nokia, Samsung, etc... The shine fell off these companies long ago, but they're still producing decent stuff. They're losing simply because this is an image war. Apple has the image of superiority, so it's crap is better than everyone else's gold. Not saying the company hasn't produced decent stuff. But, so has everyone else.


RE: iPad 3!
By robinthakur on 4/1/2014 8:46:23 AM , Rating: 2
So it got superceded by a slightly better model relatively quickly, big deal. Apple never says "Our products will be on the market for at least 1 year before they get replaced with better models". I'm assuming you aren't the guy who sold a kidney to afford one. If they had also dropped iOS updates and App store support, then I could understand your peevishness, but I still use mine daily and have used a 4 quite a bit in the past and noticed very little difference other than the lightning connector and bit more performance so I think your rage is misplaced. The main innovation with both was the retina display. I haven't noticed it overheating or anything like that, if it did I would have replaced it. Will probably replace with an Air when the second revision comes out as the 3 can be slightly heavy. At the end of the day, they are disposable electronics with a built in life to help you get stuff done, do not treat them like investments and you'll be much happier.


Cool.
By retrospooty on 3/18/2014 9:01:11 AM , Rating: 2
It's actually a decent tablet at that price. The previous iPad 2 at $399 was beyond rediculous, but this is a damn good tablet for those that like IOS.




RE: Cool.
By aliasfox on 3/18/2014 9:35:34 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, the iPad2 for $399 in 2013 was a sad joke. My guess is that Apple kept it around for those that wanted an iPad for Point-of-Sale use (think cash registers) with existing 30-pin docks and credit card readers. Now that Lightning's been out for 18 months there are probably enough point-of-sale adapters out there that there's no reason to keep the old one at all.

I also think they never really expected very many individuals to buy one anymore - for the budget folk, the iPad mini for $299 got you the same hardware, and the iPad mini Retina for $399 was generally a much more compelling option.

Lastly, for a high res, 'full size' tablet, the iPad 4 at $399 is actually decent deal. If I recall, it can generally outpace a Tegra3 equipped tablet and keep pace with a Snapdragon 600 - I haven't looked, but I'm guessing these SoCs are still in most of the mid-range Android tablet space.

Too bad it's heavier than the iPad2, that was a little disappointing. The difference in weight between an original iPad/iPad3/iPad4 and an iPad2 is surprisingly noticeable, despite being only 0.2-0.3 lbs.


RE: Cool.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/18/2014 10:49:14 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, the iPad 4 is a great tablet -- albeit a bit on the heavy side compared to the Air -- and I love mine. I got a 128GB Wi-Fi model a few months ago brand new for $519.

With all the storage space, this thing is my mobile gaming/TV shows/movie platform of choice.


RE: Cool.
By ilt24 on 3/18/2014 11:35:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The difference in weight between an original iPad/iPad3/iPad4 and an iPad2 is surprisingly noticeable, despite being only 0.2-0.3 lbs.


I'm not exactly sure what you are comparing, but the ipad 4 weighs 39g, 1.4oz or .086lbs more than an ipad 2.


RE: Cool.
By aliasfox on 3/18/2014 11:50:42 AM , Rating: 3
Hmm. My data shows an iPad2 Wi-Fi at 1.33 lbs, and the iPad4 Wi-Fi as 1.44 lbs, or a difference of 0.11 lbs. Off the top of my head I thought the iPad2 was 1.2 lbs, guess I was wrong.

It's still a noticeable difference in weight from my first gen (1.5 lbs) iPad, which is what I was using as a proxy for an iPad4 (which I've never owned nor extensively used). Both are noticeably heavier than an iPad Air.


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