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Honda's FCX Clarity  (Source: Honda)

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The next generation fuel cell from Honda is trickling into the hands of a lucky few

Honda is among the automotive giants leading the charge to explore hydrogen technologies.  The culmination of its efforts to date is the Honda FCX Clarity.  The Clarity features a slick and curvy design, a 100 kW V Flow fuel cell stack that has shrunk 65 percent since Honda's initial design, 171-liter, 5,000-psi hydrogen fuel tank, a lithium ion battery pack, and a 95 kW (127 HP) electric motor.  At 68 MPG and a range of 270 miles, the Clarity is very competitive with other sedans.

This week, the first mass-produced units of the hot new zero-emissions car rolled off a Japanese assembly line in Takanezawa, Japan. However, they're not going to stay in the land of the rising sun for long; they're headed for the U.S.  The units are going primarily to Southern California, where a lucky few will receive them.  Among these are movie stars and starlets, who will help give the car, and Honda's hybrid efforts, a high profile.

Among these VIPs are
actress Jamie Lee Curtis and filmmaker husband Christopher Guest, actress Laura Harris, film producer Ron Yerxa, as well as businessmen Jon Spallino and Jim Salomon.  The group was flown to a special ceremony where they were presented with the cars.  Harris, who played villainess Marie Warner on the hit TV show "24" loves the car.  She states, "It's so smooth.  It's like a future machine, but it's not."

The new fuel cell vehicle is certainly promising.  Its two times more energy efficient than a gas-electric hybrid and three times as efficient as a traditional gas engine, brags Honda.

Honda is deploying a "few dozen" units this year to kick off production.  By the end of 3 years, this number will have jumped to 200.  The cars will be available to lease for $600 a month, which includes maintenance and collision coverage.  The actors and others receiving the early shipments will be able to drive home their vehicles starting in July.

In California alone, Honda received 50,000 applications for the cars.  Anyone living in the state could apply on the company's website.  The vast majority of these people were rejected as they did not live close enough to the three hydrogen stations in Torrance, Santa Monica and Irvine.

The enthusiasm from Honda was infectious.  John Mendel, a senior vice president at America Honda Motor Co. cheered at the ceremony, "This is indeed a historic day for both Honda and American Honda - a new chapter in our nearly fifty-year history in America.  It's an especially significant day for American Honda as we plant firm footsteps toward the mainstreaming of fuel cell cars."

Major obstacles remain, however, for fuel cell cars.  First and foremost, there's a lack of hydrogen fuel stations and an infrastructure to pipe fuel around the country.  Second are the issues surrounding the stack: high price and less than desirable lifetime.  While advances have helped alleviate these problems slightly, they still exist.

To Honda, its fuel cell efforts are a new chance to win over its rivals.  While Honda broke ground by releasing the first gas-electric hybrid in the States in 1999, Toyota quickly outpaced it with Toyota's Prius.  Toyota recently announced the sale of its millionth hybrid Prius, while Honda ended up struggling, discontinuing two of its hybrids -- the Honda Insight, and the Accord hybrid.

Honda will be releasing the Clarity in Japan this fall, and it will also be going hybrid crazy, trying to battle back against Toyota.  It will release a new gas-electric hybrid-only model and will be releasing hybrid editions of the slick CR-Z and Fit subcompact.



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Hydrogen is the future
By AntiM on 6/17/2008 9:45:29 AM , Rating: 5
To me, hydrogen fuel cells seem to be our best hope for the future. Since hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, it's doubtful we'll run out anytime soon. Certainly, there are many obstacles. The fuel cells are expensive to manufacture and hydrogen is difficult to store. But it's a promising alternative to fossil fuels in the long term future.




RE: Hydrogen is the future
By FITCamaro on 6/17/2008 9:54:19 AM , Rating: 5
I agree that its a good alternative. However what really pisses me off is that while GM has been working on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles for years, everyone has blasted them for it saying its a waste of time. Now Honda comes and puts one out, and they're praised for it as if its never been done before. I guess its because they gave the cars to actors and such.

Not people who could truly use the cars to save money. It's really doubtful that these vehicles will become available in large quantities in any reasonable time frame. And my bet is that these vehicles will sit in the celebrity's garage until they want to take it out to look like they care about the environment.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By vapore0n on 6/17/2008 11:40:59 AM , Rating: 3
I though it was because the American public wanted bigger and heavier SUVs, so GM dropped their environmental approach.
But now that the new "it" is getting fuel efficient cars... GM lost what ground they had gotten on H2-powered Cars.

That is where GM looses every time. They don't think about the future. See the mess they got themselves in right now.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By FITCamaro on 6/17/2008 11:47:41 AM , Rating: 4
GM has been developing hydrogen fuel cell cars for more than the past decade. For GM the issue has never been whether or not they could build the car. Because they have and they can. The issue is providing it cheaply (a $600 a month LEASE is not cheap) and having somewhere to fill it up. If gas stations nationwide started offering hydrogen tomorrow, GM would be on task to start providing cars because of all the work its done.

Yes they might have been selling SUVs. But as you said its because thats what people wanted. And GM sells what people want. That doesn't mean they stopped thinking about hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. They just weren't selling any.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By Lord 666 on 6/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Hydrogen is the future
By Spuke on 6/17/2008 2:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
Wouldn't you have to account for refueling costs? Doesn't the refueling station run off of natural gas?


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By dever on 6/17/2008 4:36:06 PM , Rating: 2
The $600/month is just for show. These vehicles are strictly advertisements for Honda... notice the press they're getting. I believe these vehicles cost around $1M each, so $600/month doesn't go far.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By elgueroloco on 6/17/2008 6:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
Is that 1M each total cost or variable cost? If they had 50,000 orders for these things in CA alone, they could very well reduce that price drastically if it is variable cost and they put it on the open market. They just need to get their Home Energy Station working so people can use the cars in any city.

I would suggest they use the latest advances in cheap, powerful solar panels to power the HES, as well as making the skin of the car out of those new cool thin solar cells, and have them powering a Hoffman apparattus which turns the exhaust water back into hydrogen and puts it back through the fuel cell.

That being said, there is still a fundamental flaw with hydrogen fuel cells: hydrogen requires slightly more energy to make than you get from consuming it. Hydrogen is therefore not an energy source, but a battery. Hydrogen plus fuel cells is probably not nearly as cost-effective a battery as Li ion. It may not be as energy efficient either. Therefore, there probably is no real reason to continue pursuing hydrogen fuel cells, unless they find a way to drastically reduce the costs.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By Spuke on 6/17/2008 8:46:16 PM , Rating: 2
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Is that 1M each total cost or variable cost? If they had 50,000 orders for these things in CA alone
Maybe so but there will only be 200 total over the next three years.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By tdawg on 6/18/2008 12:27:35 AM , Rating: 2
Wow! Whereabouts do you live? And are you far away from a park & ride?

I take the metro bus to work each day and my monthly bus pass is only $81 per month. A full year of metro bus service at the highest rate here in Seattle is just over $750, I believe. So $530 a month for public transportation is shockingly expensive!


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By BarkHumbug on 6/18/2008 10:58:59 AM , Rating: 2
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$530 a month for public transportation is shockingly expensive!


What, cabs doesn't count? ;)


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By tdawg on 6/18/2008 11:01:02 AM , Rating: 3
Do they?

I guess when I think "Public Transportation" I think of buses, trains, light rail, etc. Whatever is available to move large amounts of the public from point A to point B.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By Hiawa23 on 6/17/2008 4:22:39 PM , Rating: 2
I think it is great to find alternatives for vehicles but those expensive hydrogen vehicles will do nothing for our vehicles today, & I bought a MITSU Lancer Ralliart 2006 back in 06, & also own a 97 Honda Civic, so I don't plan on buying another car. What can they do to bring down costs for the substance that our cars run on today is what I want to hear. The hydrogen, electric cars may be the future, but we need relief now. That's really all I want to hear.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/17/2008 12:12:25 PM , Rating: 1
Maybe they would have been praised if they were the first to market with a car, such as Honda did with this. But alas, Honda was first, and also, I love my 05 SI, it's fun :)


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By FITCamaro on 6/17/2008 12:28:41 PM , Rating: 4
They're leasing out a few dozen. GM gave out 100 hydrogen powered Equinoxes last year for a 3 month trial to get feedback on them. I would hardly call a car that has less than 50 units on the road a production car. GM could easily do what Honda is doing. But its pointless and purely a PR move.


By TimTheEnchanter25 on 6/17/2008 3:14:47 PM , Rating: 5
Why do you assume that these cars would save people money? I'm pretty sure that hydrogen is still a LOT more expensive than gasoline.

Besides they aren't very practical when you can't drive more than 135 miles away from the filling station without calling a tow truck to get you back.

It is just a PR stunt to show people that the technology works. We are a good 20+ years away from this going main stream.


RE: Hydrogen is the future
By onwisconsin on 6/17/2008 8:40:12 PM , Rating: 2
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However what really pisses me off is that while GM has been working on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles for years, everyone has blasted them for it saying its a waste of time.


If by everyone you mean the press like the AP? I recall car magazines (and some science programming) earlier this decade were giving a good amount of attention to the concept and the working, running concept of later on.