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Privacy changes open Facebook user profiles to many more people

Privacy is one of the top concerns for millions of Americans who go online each day. A very large percentage of the millions of Americans who go online end up using social networking site Facebook to keep in touch with friends and coworkers.

Facebook is now the largest social networking site in America with 58.6% of all social networking site visitors in America. Facebook took the top spot from MySpace. Facebook recently made significant changes to its privacy settings and put in place recommended settings that would open a users profile up to many more people than most are available to now.

Marc Rotenberg from the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) said at the time the changes were announced, "Facebook is nudging the settings toward the 'disclose everything' position. That's not fair from the privacy perspective."

Yesterday, EPIC and nine other privacy and consumer groups filed a complaint with the FTC against the changes that Facebook made to its privacy settings urging the agency to open an investigation.

Rottenburg issued a statement saying, "This is the most significant case now before the Federal Trade Commission. More than 100 million people in the United States subscribe to the Facebook service. The company should not be allowed to turn down the privacy dial on so many American consumers."

Facebook maintains that it has gone out of its way to inform its users that the privacy settings were changing. It also points out that the privacy settings can be kept just as they are now if the user specifies that they are to be kept. The problem in the eyes of the user groups is that the default or recommended settings opens the profiles up to many more viewers.

Facebook is hoping that by making the information in its user's profiles open to other users on Facebook and across the internet via search engines that it can gain more users and get ahead of the competition in the market. More viewers also means the ability to generate more ad revenue for the site.

A Facebook spokesperson said, "We've had productive discussions with dozens of organizations around the world about the recent changes and we're disappointed that EPIC has chosen to share their concerns with the FTC while refusing to talk to us about them."

The spokes person continued, "We have gone to great lengths to inform users about our platform changes, beginning with our July announcement; founder Mark Zuckerberg's open letter to our 350 million users; our robust press and analyst outreach; the notice-and-comment framework for our new privacy policy; and simple customization tools for users."



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online privacy?
By smackababy on 12/18/2009 11:00:22 AM , Rating: 1
Whatever happened to that saying "if you want it to be private, don't put it up online"? I seem to remember that being the norm a while back.




RE: online privacy?
By AnnihilatorX on 12/18/2009 10:59:58 AM , Rating: 5
It's not just that. Sometimes it's beyond your control.

I had friends who put my photo up on the site before, without my permission. How do I deal with that?


RE: online privacy?
By Kefner on 12/18/2009 11:05:32 AM , Rating: 3
Beat their ass?


RE: online privacy?
By smackababy on 12/18/2009 11:07:06 AM , Rating: 2
Inform them to take it down? Depends if the picture was taken in public or not as to whether they can display it I believe.


RE: online privacy?
By bissimo on 12/18/2009 11:28:23 AM , Rating: 2
Legally, yes. Anyone can use your image for anything if it was taken in a public place, as long as it does not become libelous or slanderous and they do not use it for their monetary gains. Taking a picture of someone using your product, then using that image in an advertisement is not allowed. This is how news agencies can show just about anyone's image without getting written consent.
In a more practical sense, even if the use of the image is illegal, 99% of people will not go out and file a lawsuit over it.


RE: online privacy?
By jonmcc33 on 12/18/2009 11:28:07 AM , Rating: 2
Don't let them take your picture?

Photos are nothing. It's the personal information that can be alarming. I have been baffled for over a decade at why domain name companies (GoDaddy.com, etc) put the full contact information of the people that lease domain names from them on the internet. Name, phone number and home address. It's all out there.


RE: online privacy?
By rcc on 12/18/2009 11:58:46 AM , Rating: 3
Unless, of course, you pay them extra to hide.

Does that make it hush money?


RE: online privacy?
By wvh on 12/19/2009 10:51:48 PM , Rating: 2
Some registrars give the option to hide that information for the outside world. Gandi for example shows their own address in whois records.

I think it's good a registrar has this private information to make it easier to find spammers and terminate their accounts, but the information doesn't necessary have to be worldwide available through databases such as whois.

Perhaps you need to find a registrar more aimed towards the professional market?


RE: online privacy?
By amanojaku on 12/18/2009 2:55:48 PM , Rating: 1
If they don't respect your privacy they aren't your friends. I don't have any social networking accounts, and my friends respect my decision to stay anonymous on the Internet. Besides, I can't keep track of everyone with a camera so I make it a point to behave myself in the company of others I feel can't be trusted.


RE: online privacy?
By AstroCreep on 12/18/2009 4:55:43 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I had friends who put my photo up on the site before, without my permission. How do I deal with that?


Issue them a DMCA takedown notice.


RE: online privacy?
By aqwan135 on 12/20/09, Rating: 0
RE: online privacy?
By MrX8503 on 12/21/2009 2:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's not just that. Sometimes it's beyond your control.

I had friends who put my photo up on the site before, without my permission. How do I deal with that?


Well you can't really, which is something Facebook needs to really address. I think facebook should make the image unviewable if you are tagged and the person viewing is not your friend.

It sucks cause people can see pics of me in my friends albums. Facebook needs to do something about this.


RE: online privacy?
By Alexstarfire on 12/18/2009 3:11:09 PM , Rating: 2
Facebook certainly didn't inform me that their privacy policies were changing. Actually, if it wasn't for one of my aunt's who posted about how to turn this new "setting" off I'd probably never even have known about it.


Privacy
By really on 12/18/2009 1:21:33 PM , Rating: 4
The old adage of if you want it private don't put it on line came about during a time when there were few ways to control who saw the information. If you put it online anyone could see it.

The purpose of facebook and other social networks is the ability to stay connected with FRIENDS and share your information with them and only them if you so choose. So the problem is now they are making it easier for your information to spread to everyone not only in the social network site but outside of it as well making your information more readily available to search engines and thus the general public. This is the privacy concern that people are having. Just because the internet is available to everyone doesn't mean that every piece of information should be available to all who access it unless you so choose.

If you have a conversation in public at a restaurant and you don't want everyone around you to here, you speak in a quieter voice, if you don't care what you're discussing and who hears then you speak in a natural tone. Doesn't mean what you're talking about is wrong, you just want to keep it private. The table at the restaurant should not have a mike attached to it that broadcasts your conversation around the restaurant and to the world.




RE: Privacy
By Zensen on 12/18/2009 1:49:16 PM , Rating: 2
couldn't have said it better myself.

facebook is trying to lessen that walled garden that they have successfully built up over the years and these new privacy options have allowed them to share more and more of that info to more people who aren't necessarily on your friends list and I can understand some people arguing against that.


Newsflash...
By Motoman on 12/18/2009 10:59:59 AM , Rating: 4
...participating in a social networking site is an activity diametrically opposed to your personal privacy.




Kinda stupid...
By Iaiken on 12/18/2009 10:59:19 AM , Rating: 1
If you're THAT concerned about privacy then the answer is simple: Don't use Facebook.




RE: Kinda stupid...
By rdawise on 12/19/2009 12:20:39 PM , Rating: 2
So sad. So True...

To people who didn't know, anything you post online is no longer private. ANYTHING!


hmmm
By hughlle on 12/18/2009 11:21:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Privacy is one of the top concerns for millions of Americans who go online each day.


top concerns, uhhuh, how's about "a concern"

that's like saying my blind spot while driving is my top concern, no, it's an issue but not quiet top of the pile.

as people hgave said here, if it's meant to be private, why would you put it on a networking site? that's just leaning towards the "you daft p****" side of things :)




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