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Good news for Apple in terms of sales is offset by a pummeling on the stock market

Independent research often is used to verify thing we knew all along.  Among the studies to fall in this category was the recent market research which confirmed that Apple computers, on average, cost nearly twice as much as Vista computers.  This is good news for Apple, who despite a reinvigorated advertising campaign from Microsoft, is cashing in on its chic brand image.

In the latest NPD sales info, Windows PCs had a strong 80 percent unit share at online and brick-and-mortar retail stores in June and July.  However, despite having less than 20 percent unit share (some units were netbooks running Linux distros), Apple managed to make over 35 percent of the revenue share -- over 1 in 3 dollars spent on computers.  Apple may not be beating Windows in sales, but it is making a lot of money.

Notebooks are the biggest sales category according to the latest report, with unit sales expected to eclipse 148.2 million this year, says research firm IDC.  Year-to-year growth rates of notebooks were 37.2 percent and an impressive 44.7 percent outside the United States.

Apple laptop revenues continued to rise, growing 30 percent, compared to Windows which showed 1.5 percent growth.  Windows fared better in unit growth, which was 10 percent compared to 35 percent for Apple.  Windows is selling more, but Apple is selling less for more.  The lowest priced Apple computers were $1,099, while most Windows partners had a model priced at below $500. 

The average sales price for both Windows and Mac computers dipped slightly.  For Windows in July and August Window's ASP fell to $694, from $700 in June.  Meanwhile, Apple's dipped to $1,471, down from $1,515 in June and $1,588 in June 2007.

The report generally was good news for Apple, but some analysts, such as eWeek's Joe Wilcox think that Apple has hit a peak at its current price point.  Wilcox wrote, "What's next? I predict that Apple's grab for dollars has gone about as far as it can, without price cuts. Apple's higher prices buck industry trends. About two weeks ago, IDC credited low-cost portables for driving worldwide PC shipments. The trend in notebook buying is lower pricing in a market where Apple sells high."

To add to its worries about netbooks, Apple also has to recover from a beating on the stock market.  RBC Capital analyst Mike Abramsky downgraded his rating on Apple, following a survey from RBC conducted with ChangeWave, which indicated Mac sales could be cooling off in the corporate market.  The result was dramatic, with Apple shares taking the worst hit in eight years.

Shares of Apple plunged 18 percent, after falling 16 percent in only an hour.  The losses in that hour cost Apple $18B USD in market capital.  The losses for the day brought its stock down to May 2007 levels.  Some analysts argue that the market and fellow analysts overreacted to the report.  Nonetheless, despite the good news, Tuesday was a painful day for Apple.



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Economic Fallout...
By nycromes on 9/30/2008 1:27:28 PM , Rating: 5
Unfortunately for Apple, they are probably looking at some tough times ahead. As people worry more about the economy they are going to be less willing to part with their cash for a product that will do exactly the same thing as a lower costing competitor. It will be interesting to watch things pan out as the economy gets more of the national spotlight in the media. Not to be all doom and gloom. They will have a large base of loyal customers (big suprise) but I would think their growth will slow down considerably till people get more comfortable in the economy.




RE: Economic Fallout...
By mmntech on 9/30/08, Rating: -1
RE: Economic Fallout...
By Flunk on 9/30/2008 1:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think you are reading a bit too much personal bias into this. I think that the Apple fanbase is a lot more diverse than that. You don't need to be a professional to buy Apple products, you just need enough money, which plenty of other people have too.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By tential on 9/30/2008 2:51:35 PM , Rating: 3
Lets just think about it this way. The general public generally knows very little to nothing about pcs. Sales will dip proportionally. I doubt people who were using macs will be switching over to PCs because of the economy.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By mikefarinha on 9/30/2008 3:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
The economy affects everyone differently. This may mean that current Mac users, and probably Windows users as well, will probably put off buying a new PC longer than they would have had the economy had not had this current mess.

If a user does need to buy a new PC durring these hard times they'll probably be looking a bit closer at the value of each.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By robinthakur on 10/1/2008 6:21:53 AM , Rating: 2
Sales might dip proportionally, but remember that Apple is now the number 1 most trusted brand in the eyes of the public. There will always be a place for the top brands and, actually, they tend to be not as affected by recessions as lower brands.

If anything I would actually say that MS will be worse hit here as they depend on business more for their revenue than Apple, and what with companies putting software refreshes for Office/Vista etc on hold and freezing development, buying of new hw etc. its going to have an obvious effect. Banks in particular spent ALOT of money on IT and this will be felt by the whole industrya as a knock on.

The Creative industries will always use Macs because they like them. If you want to take Macs away from them, you're a braver man than me lol

Note that I use both MS and Macs and am not a fanboi here.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/1/2008 8:12:16 AM , Rating: 2
The problem is that Apple's PC line is a small fraction of their revenue, the iPod and iTunes lines are where the majority of revenue is generated. Forecasting based on those lines would be more accurate of how healthy the company is overall. No offense but I find the iPod lines seem to be fairly stagnant at this point. Yes, there are new ones but they don't really offer anything over the last generation which doesn't push people with older ones to buy newer ones. The iPod userbase is fairly saturated now.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By kelmon on 10/1/2008 8:54:44 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, no. Mac sales represented 48% of all revenue generated by Apple Corporation in the last quarter, with iPods accounting for 22% and iTunes (plus associated music services) accounting for 11%. The remaining 19% came from sales of the iPhone, software and miscellaneous hardware, and associated services. I think that it is fair to say that the PC line is damned important to Apple still, particularly when growth in that area is far outstripping growth in the other areas of the business.

http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q308data_sum.pdf

Sorry, I don't like correcting people.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By paydirt on 10/1/2008 9:16:58 AM , Rating: 2
The loss in stock price actually does not hurt the company's bottom line unless they needed to sell more stock to raise cash. Apple has a ton of cash, so they wouldn't need to use their stock (price) as a financial tool any time soon.

It DID "cost" stockholders $18B in (temporarily?) lost market value. Stockholders being Apple employees, investors (mutual funds), and retirees (pension funds).


RE: Economic Fallout...
By omnicronx on 10/1/2008 9:55:28 AM , Rating: 2
Revenue is one thing, but how about profits? Selling 11 million Ipods at an average of 170$ a pop is going to net you some nice profits, with much higher margins than laptop/desktop sales (although they are high margin too).


RE: Economic Fallout...
By kelmon on 10/1/2008 10:17:15 AM , Rating: 2
It's hard to say because Apple does not break down their cost figures for each area of business. Still, it seems likely that the Mac business contributes significantly to profits given that the total margin on sales across the organisation was $2.6 billion, which is about $1 billion more than the total revenue generated by the iPod product line. The % margin per iPod unit may be more than that generated by the Mac business but there is no way to tell without more detailed information than that which is publicly available. Certainly the $ margin per Mac, however, is going to be higher than that generated by an iPod simply because they are considerably more expensive.

http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q308fin_statements....

I'm not sure why people would be suggesting that the Mac business is no longer important to Apple. It's undoubtably the single biggest area of revenue and profits for the corporation and the area of the business that is experiencing the highest growth. As noted previously, the iPod only contributes to 22% total revenue and is showing growth of only 7%, whereas the Mac side of the business saw growth of 43% in the last quarter.

This, it has to be said, does agree with Master Kenobi's point about new iPods being a harder sell. Growth of that side of the business is stagnating and it may well be fair to say that everyone who wants an iPod already has one.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By michael2k on 9/30/08, Rating: -1
RE: Economic Fallout...
By michael2k on 9/30/08, Rating: -1
RE: Economic Fallout...
By Plague421 on 9/30/2008 2:24:59 PM , Rating: 5
Have you tried windows Mojave? Its awesome!


RE: Economic Fallout...
By 67STANG on 9/30/08, Rating: -1
RE: Economic Fallout...
By michael2k on 9/30/08, Rating: -1
RE: Economic Fallout...
By MrPoletski on 10/5/2008 7:51:04 AM , Rating: 1
"Immunity from Windows spyware, trojans, and viruses"

ummm...

didn't some guy demonstrate and take control of a mac remotely in like 15 seconds or something? The only platforms that are affected by vir ii and spyware are those with a serious slice of the market share.

Nothing, I repeat, nothing is immune to viral infection.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By psychobriggsy on 9/30/2008 2:02:15 PM , Rating: 2
I think it will be bad for all companies.

Unless you need a new computer, you will hang on with your current system for longer. You may not wish to settle for less, or you might decide that you want to buy a computer that will last a long time (for which Apple has a good reputation, deserved or not), or you might reassess all your purchases and realise that what you need is a netbook + desktop, not a powerful laptop.


RE: Economic Fallout...
By nycromes on 9/30/2008 2:59:56 PM