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Porsche 918 Spyder Concept
Porsche is bringing sexy back with the 918 Spyder Concept

Porsche is not a company that produces concept cars very often. Come to think of it, only the Porsche Boxster and Carrera GT spring to mind as concept cars that the German sports car manufacturers has displayed within the past twenty years. That's not to say that Porsche can't pull out a nice concept whenever it wants to -- and today, the company has done just that.

Porsche unveiled its new 918 Spyder concept that not only brings sleek styling to the table, but also a wealth of high-tech powertrain goodness. Looking somewhat like a gorgeous mashup up of a Ferrari F430, Porsche Carrera GT, Porsche Boxster, and Porsche 911 GT1, the 918 Spyder concept features a mid-engine layout, seating for two people, and all-wheel drive.

The roadster also features dual side-exiting exhaust pipes on either side of the vehicle along with a nod to the past with an intriguing "disk" wheel design.

Being that this is a Porsche first and foremost, this vehicle is all about performance. Gone is the flat-6 that powers the mid-engined Boxster and Cayman (along with the rear-engined 911) and in its place is a high-revving (9,200 rpm) V8 engine producing 500 hp. As if that wasn't enough, there are also two electric motors installed in the vehicle (one for the front axle, one for the rear axle). The electric motors add another 218 hp to the mix.

Porsche isn't spoiling the fun by using a continuously variable transmission (CVT) in the 918 Spyder -- instead, the company is using a version of its seven-speed Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (PDK) dual-clutch transmission which transmits power to the rear wheels. The front wheels are driven by a fixated ratio transmission.

Porsche says that the plug-in hybrid 918 Spyder can bolt to 60 mph in just 3.2 seconds and can travel 16 miles on battery power alone. The 3,285-pound vehicle is said to deliver an estimated 78 mpg (U.S.) according to Porsche.

No one knows if all of this performance goodness will ever make its way into a production vehicle, but one can hope that at least the styling cues and maybe a toned down version of the hybrid system could make it into a production vehicle.

Porsche is also readying a hybrid version of its second generation Cayenne SUV. The hybrid powertrain is said to achieve 34.5 mpg on the European cycle.



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It's definitely sexy
By cwilson on 3/1/2010 4:13:07 PM , Rating: 5
But my jaw didn't drop until I tried to read "Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe"




RE: It's definitely sexy
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/1/2010 4:16:22 PM , Rating: 5
German is such a filthy language if you ask me :-) It just sounds so mechanical and abrasive.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By corduroygt on 3/1/2010 4:22:53 PM , Rating: 5
It is said that a German song is about as romantic as a French military anthem.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Smartless on 3/1/2010 4:51:50 PM , Rating: 2
Lol irony is that Hello in German "Guten Tag" sounds a grunt using the bathroom while goodbye sounds so nice "Auf Widersehen"


RE: It's definitely sexy
By jlips6 on 3/2/2010 12:31:12 PM , Rating: 2
actually, the more common goodbye is "Tchuss" which is equally fun to say.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By quiksilvr on 3/2/2010 12:42:33 AM , Rating: 2
Some say that German beards are more effective than Snuggies.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ClownPuncher on 3/1/2010 4:36:46 PM , Rating: 5
Usually portrayed in movies a bit harsher than it actually is. Find yourself a hottie German girl with a sweet voice and you'll think it sounds pretty fair ;)


RE: It's definitely sexy
By omnicronx on 3/1/2010 5:08:16 PM , Rating: 5
A hottie with a sweet voice could speak to me in Klingon and I would probably think it sounds pretty fair too ;)

I have a few German friends, and sometimes they sound like they are yelling at each other, even though they are having a perfectly normal conversation.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By phattyboombatty on 3/1/2010 6:10:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have a few German friends, and sometimes they sound like they are yelling at each other, even though they are having a perfectly normal conversation.

I bet there's a lot of spit flying during those conversations too.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By thepalinator on 3/1/2010 10:35:27 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing beats Welsh for a good spit-flying conversation.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Calin on 3/2/2010 2:00:08 AM , Rating: 2
I've heard greeks talking to one another - they sound like two machine guns on full auto


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ajfink on 3/2/2010 2:25:39 AM , Rating: 2
Chinese is probably about as bad as German for unintentionally inferred anger....


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ClownPuncher on 3/2/2010 1:43:36 PM , Rating: 2
China has a few different languages, depending on region. Mandarin is one that is not pleasing to my ear, but Cantonese is not so bad.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ChugokuOtaku on 3/2/2010 7:50:00 PM , Rating: 2
If you really wanna make the comparison there, I can say that Mandarin is to French as Cantonese is to Italian, both in terms of pronouciation, as well as in terms of how each language have deviated from their origin.

Personally, I have a liking for the rather coarse pronouciation of Canto(despite my fluency in Mandarin), simply for the fact that I think it sounds cool. I've always preferred listening to Germanic languages over Romance languages too.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By jvillaro on 3/2/2010 1:52:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A hottie with a sweet voice could speak to me in Klingon and I would probably think it sounds pretty fair too ;)


Come on, give the man a +1!


RE: It's definitely sexy
By afkrotch on 3/1/2010 6:20:43 PM , Rating: 3
Lived in Germany for 2 years. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is, it won't sound pretty. Course, you'd still sleep with her.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ClownPuncher on 3/1/2010 6:58:28 PM , Rating: 2
I actually like spoken German, I know most people don't, and I never used to. I just got used to it, then even liked it after 6+ months with a hot little German girl living in my apartment. I guess it helps that I have a good amount of stinky Kraut blood in me.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By KingConker on 3/2/2010 10:18:16 AM , Rating: 5
Did you eat her?


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Frallan on 3/2/2010 3:08:20 AM , Rating: 3
Ehhh... Nooo...

I have tried and believe me it isnt worth it. Though when nothing else is availeble it will have to do from time to time. (I lived 4 yrs in Germany).

My $0.69


RE: It's definitely sexy
By ZmaxDP on 3/1/2010 6:43:46 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah, there's a joke about it...

A German, an American, a Frenchman, and a Spaniard are all sitting around a table talking about language (in english of course). The American states that English is the most beautiful language (like he knows any others) an decides they should use Butterfly as an example. The Frenchman immediately disagrees because the French word is far more beautiful, and says, "just try it, Papillon." Of course, this riles up the Spaniard and he says: "Papillon? Please, mariposa is far more beautiful!" All of a sudden, the german breaks in and asks: "What's wrong with schmetterling?"


RE: It's definitely sexy
By chagrinnin on 3/1/2010 7:07:06 PM , Rating: 5
Hah! Sounds like something that would require a toilet brush to clean up after.

Wife: What's wrong der sweetness?
Husband: Urgh! I've gooten der schmetterlings! I haven't taken un goot Dopplekunpplungsgetriebe in 3 days!
:P


RE: It's definitely sexy
By the3monkies on 3/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: It's definitely sexy
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 3/5/2010 4:05:03 PM , Rating: 1
Not sure, so Why did you come to this page?


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Gul Westfale on 3/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: It's definitely sexy
By martinrichards23 on 3/2/2010 4:40:45 AM , Rating: 3
Actually, english has *far* more words than german/french etc.

We have many different words to describe things in just slightly different ways, where they just have one.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By S3anister on 3/5/2010 3:30:48 AM , Rating: 3
Very true. This is because English as a language is a derivative of both German and French, which are both latin based.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By boobo on 3/5/2010 8:07:11 PM , Rating: 2
German is not Latin based ^_^;
Germanic languages are a different branch.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Gul Westfale on 3/8/2010 8:18:39 PM , Rating: 1
according to wikipedia, english has over 1 million words, german has 9 million. not even close.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Hoser McMoose on 3/1/2010 5:27:25 PM , Rating: 4
LOL I was thinking the same! Only in German could you possibly get a word like "Dopplekunpplungsgetriebe"

It actually does make some sense though in typical German style. It means, very literally, "dual clutch transmission". Dopple = Dual, Kunpplungs = Clutches, Getriebe = Transmission. Smash 'em all together and you get a word that is just WAY too long!


RE: It's definitely sexy
By Schugy on 3/1/2010 6:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
This really isn't a long word.

I recommend to buy Mark Twain - The awful German language/Slovenly Peter.

Have fun :-)


RE: It's definitely sexy
By porkpie on 3/1/2010 10:45:49 PM , Rating: 5
If you like that, try "Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswe rkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft"

And yes, that's a real word in German.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By eddieroolz on 3/2/2010 7:28:41 AM , Rating: 2
o_o


RE: It's definitely sexy
By n0ebert on 3/2/2010 9:22:27 AM , Rating: 2
According to wikipedia it translates into;

"Association for subordinate officials of the head office management of the Danube steamboat electrical services"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donaudampfschiffahrts...


RE: It's definitely sexy
By S3anister on 3/5/2010 4:07:54 AM , Rating: 3
If you think that's ridiculous, the compound nouns extend into the number system.

The number "9451238153702812" in German would be "Neunbilliardevierhundarteinundfünfzigbillionzweihu ndartachtunddreizigmilliardeeinhundartdreiundfünfzi gmillionsiebenhundartzweitausendachthundartzwölf"
149 characters.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By fic2 on 3/1/2010 5:55:56 PM , Rating: 2
It's name should be Sexy Beast. Of course, in German it wouldn't sound as good.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By rcr on 3/2/2010 11:43:37 AM , Rating: 2
It would just be sexy Biest


RE: It's definitely sexy
By rcr on 3/2/2010 11:44:12 AM , Rating: 2
It would just be sexy Biest in German


RE: It's definitely sexy
By bildan on 3/1/2010 8:07:36 PM , Rating: 4
Not hard.

Doppel = double
kupplung = clutch
Getriebe = transmission

They just don't waste keystrokes on spaces so it's like doubleclutchtransmission

German doesn't sound bad, just precise.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By bigboxes on 3/1/2010 8:36:13 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. It's sounds weird cuz it's different. There are a lot of words in the English language that are influenced by german.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By FastEddieLB on 3/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: It's definitely sexy
By Murloc on 3/2/2010 4:40:21 AM , Rating: 3
it depends. My english teach told me that everyday stuff comes from german, for example body parts, but that most abstract and high level words come from latin because there was a time where the french dominated england and all the politics and administration were in french, which brought latin words in english.


RE: It's definitely sexy
By gamerk2 on 3/2/2010 9:00:39 AM , Rating: 3
Technically, English is bastardized French; the sad part is the only people left who speak the language properly are in the lowlands in Scotland (where they still use the old vowel sounds, so "mouse" [pronounced as moose] and "house" still rhyme)


RE: It's definitely sexy
By MrBlastman on 3/2/2010 12:12:37 PM , Rating: 5
It isn't our fault the French surrendered their language to us. :)


RE: It's definitely sexy
By whiskerwill on 3/3/2010 10:32:57 AM , Rating: 2
No, the previous psoter was right. Technically English is a germanic language. It's #2 influence is Romance (mostly French).

But beyond that, it has loanwords in it from a hundred other languages. It's the most bastardized language in the world (which probably explains why its the #1 second-language)


RE: It's definitely sexy
By poohbear on 3/5/2010 4:05:52 PM , Rating: 2
i thought it was because the Romans were also in England?


RE: It's definitely sexy
By SoCalBoomer on 3/2/2010 2:45:40 PM , Rating: 3
English is a mutt - derived from the myriad of places we have taken our words. We have a LOT of Latin in our specific words, but many others come from the Romantics (which, themselves come from Latin) but we got others from the Germanics, and others from wherever. We're an equal opportunity language! We'll bastardize just about anything. . . LOL


RE: It's definitely sexy
By redbone75 on 3/2/2010 2:59:50 AM , Rating: 3
Stayed up for 30 minutes longer than I wanted to past 1am laughing!


Beautiful car...
By ATC on 3/1/2010 4:48:49 PM , Rating: 2
...but are those little things supposed to be the side-mirrors?




RE: Beautiful car...
By UppityMatt on 3/1/2010 4:49:15 PM , Rating: 3
In a car like this you dont need mirrors...you expect everyone to be behind you lol.


RE: Beautiful car...
By MadMan007 on 3/1/2010 5:11:39 PM , Rating: 2
That would seem to me to be the exact purpose of REARview mirrors.


RE: Beautiful car...
By fic2 on 3/1/2010 5:54:50 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty sure he meant in the rearview and fading (fast).


RE: Beautiful car...
By inighthawki on 3/1/2010 5:09:00 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly I wouldn't doubt if people who owned this car expected everyone else to drive according to what they're doing.


RE: Beautiful car...
By afkrotch on 3/1/2010 6:23:48 PM , Rating: 3
Let's hope obstacles move out of your way when you're parking too.


RE: Beautiful car...
By bighairycamel on 3/1/2010 5:10:47 PM , Rating: 2
No, actually I believe they are video cameras. The display is shown on the center console of the dash.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


RE: Beautiful car...
By gucio69 on 3/1/2010 5:24:33 PM , Rating: 2
I can't say whether you're right or not, but that is the same thought that popped into my mind when I've seen those "mirrors".


RE: Beautiful car...
By Einy0 on 3/2/2010 8:49:44 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking the same thing, what a great idea from a safety and aerodynamic stand point. It's brilliant...


RE: Beautiful car...
By Spuke on 3/1/2010 5:50:08 PM , Rating: 2
Good God this car is stunning!!!


RE: Beautiful car...
By messyunkempt on 3/1/2010 6:19:34 PM , Rating: 1
I'd tap it.


RE: Beautiful car...
By kmmatney on 3/1/2010 6:24:35 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. They hsould make a non hybrid (and presumably lower cost) car with this amazing design.


RE: Beautiful car...
By afkrotch on 3/1/2010 6:25:34 PM , Rating: 2
Reminds me of a Lotus Elise. Except, it looks much better and a hell of a lot more powerful.


RE: Beautiful car...
By cherrycoke on 3/3/2010 11:11:21 AM , Rating: 3
Yep, The Porsche is much heavier but still almost double the hp to weight ratio.

Lotus Elise (Supercharged)
1,984 lbs - 218 hp ~ 9.1 lbs/hp

Porsche 918
3,285 lbs - 718hp ~ 4.6 lbs/hp

You would also have that instant torque from the electric motors as well. I like the 0-60 times.


RE: Beautiful car...
By afkrotch on 3/4/2010 12:36:22 AM , Rating: 2
Course, I'd still take a Ford Fiesta ST ERC. Can you say, 0-100 kph in 2.2 secs? Not even a F1 car can match that.


RE: Beautiful car...
By eddieroolz on 3/2/2010 7:28:29 AM , Rating: 2
To me it looks like a Carerra GT++. Stunning!


Was always a fan of the 914
By Lord 666 on 3/1/2010 4:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
Now that Porsche is pretty much owned by VW, wonder if this is going to share parts with the VW Bluesport.

http://www.vw.com/upcomingcars/bluesportconcept/en...




RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By Spuke on 3/1/2010 5:48:50 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Now that Porsche is pretty much owned by VW, wonder if this is going to share parts with the VW Bluesport.
Somehow, I don't think those two cars are on the same planet. Just a guess.


RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/1/2010 5:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure I follow...


RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By afkrotch on 3/1/2010 6:30:22 PM , Rating: 2
I think the VW can hold the electric motors, but definitely not the gas engine.


RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By Lord 666 on 3/2/2010 9:43:50 AM , Rating: 2
Spuke,

Generally, your car knowledge is spot on. However, if you peel back the pretty sheet metal, I am going to hypothesize that VW AG will be sharing several components between both the Bluesport and the 918.

If you Google the 914, it will detail the collaboration between VW and Porsche some 40 years ago. I find it too coincidental the new car is designated the 918. In an effort to reduce platforms and the other projects going on, it would be logical for there to be some part sharing between the the Bluesport and 918.

914/4 - VW motor
914/6 - Porsche motor

Toureg/Q7 - TDI with possibility for hybrid
Cayenne - Hybrid already in the works with V8 (maybe even the 3.4 from the 918)

Bluemotion - TDI with posibility to make diesel hybrid
918 - V8 with hybrid


RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By Spuke on 3/2/2010 2:48:45 PM , Rating: 2
The 918 is obviously a high end (read exotic ala Carrera GT). The Bluesport is obviously a more pedestrian vehicle (read non-exotic). The Carrera GT shares no relevant parts with anything in the Porsche lineup let alone the VW lineup. I seriously doubt that this 918 will share any parts with the Bluesport. The only things these two cars have in common is they're both sports cars. Both are aimed at two totally different markets and VW nor Porsche would pollute the image of their exotic by parts sharing. And considering the potential market for the 918, there would be no need to do so.


RE: Was always a fan of the 914
By Lord 666 on 3/2/2010 3:10:06 PM , Rating: 2
Listen, I've seen more Carerra GT's in my life (there are two in my area alone) than 959s, but driven the 959 more. Which model is more exotic? Even the 959 shared some parts with other Porsche's of that era, and there were only 212 made! There is no doubt there will be parts shared between the 918 and the Bluesport. With the push for hybrid/alternative fuel cars, for the economy of scale, there will be parts shared. Even the Telsa is "just" a Lotus with some batteries and electric motors, but it aims for a "high" end market.

PS - My first car was a Porsche.


Sick
By amanojaku on 3/1/2010 4:25:49 PM , Rating: 2
High ICE revs means low torque (should be about 285ft-lb for 500HP @ 9200RPM), so the ICE is best when this thing is already moving. Electric motors have low HP, but generally have crap loads of torque at all revs, so the electric motors are best to get this thing moving from a standstill. This may never be practical for normal cars but it's one hell of a design for a sports car!




RE: Sick
By Camikazi on 3/1/2010 6:13:30 PM , Rating: 2
I so need to become rich fast, I want this, I want it now.


RE: Sick
By fic2 on 3/1/2010 7:28:30 PM , Rating: 4
4 8 15 16 23 42


RE: Sick
By Noya on 3/1/2010 9:39:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
High ICE revs means low torque (should be about 285ft-lb for 500HP @ 9200RPM)


I don't think so.

A Ferrari F430's V8 spins to 8,500rpm and has 483hp/343tq.

The Ferrari 458 4.5L spins to 9,000rpm and has 560hp/400tq.

The high rev engine with your rating doesn't exist. The E46 BMW M3's S54 engine reds at 8,000rpm and has 343hp/269tq.


RE: Sick
By amanojaku on 3/1/2010 11:44:25 PM , Rating: 5
First, you need to understand car specs. By definition, torque peak occurs at a lower RPM than power peak. Therefore, the torque at power peak is lower than the torque at torque peak. Obviously, since peak means top, and an ICE does not have flat torque through all RPMs.

The F430 has its peak torque of 343 ft-lb at 5250 RPM, while the engine achieves peak power of 483HP at 8500 RPM. The torque at 8500 RPM is around 298 ft-lb, not 343.

The 458 Italia has its peak torque of 400 ft-lb at 6000 RPM, while the engine achieves peak power of 560HP at 9000 RPM. The torque at 9000 RPM is around 326 ft-lb, not 400.

The M3 has its peak torque of 269 ft-lb at 4900 RPM, while the engine achieves peak power of 343HP at 7900 RPM. The torque at 7900 RPM is around 228 ft-lb, not 269.

Second, you need to understand the relationship between HP and torque. If two engines have the same HP but different RPMs the lowest RPM has higher torque. If the M3 had a power peak of 483HP at 7900RPM it would have 321 ft-lb of torque; that's 23 ft-lb more than the F430. If the M3 had a power peak of 560HP at 7900 RPM it would have 372 ft-lb of torque. That's 46 ft-lb more than the 458 Italia.

You should look at a power curve as it makes more sense when you see the picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_band
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower#Relationsh...
http://craig.backfire.ca/pages/autos/horsepower


Porsche youtube video
By fic2 on 3/1/2010 8:03:52 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Porsche youtube video
By glitchc on 3/1/2010 10:27:16 PM , Rating: 2
I think I just came...


RE: Porsche youtube video
By Strunf on 3/2/2010 5:23:39 PM , Rating: 2
25km of autonomy with just the batteries, enough to go and come back from work!!


Correction: Boxster and Cayman have the H6
By joeRocket on 3/1/2010 6:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
"...flat-6 that powers the mid-engined Boxster and Cayenne..." Boxster and Cayman have the H6 (as well as many others...) Porsche has had a V8 for some time, in the Cayenne SUV and recently now for the Panamera. By way of history, the first Porsche V8 was in 1978, featured in the 928.




By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/1/2010 6:34:48 PM , Rating: 2
I had a brain fart moment. I was just too giddy with excitement when I was writing the piece -- I had the same euphoric grin on my face when I saw the first Boxster concept in 1993 :-)

As for the V8, the one in the 918 is much smaller than the V8s used in the Cayenne/Panamera. It uses a 3.4-liter unit.


By joeRocket on 3/1/2010 6:47:04 PM , Rating: 2
Haha - I see. The engine comes from the RS Spyder race car... 500 bhp from 3.4 litres! I agree, this is a very beautiful car, I'd love to have a chance to see it in person.


Safe Search
By UNHchabo on 3/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: Safe Search
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/1/2010 5:41:52 PM , Rating: 5
"Why don't you have a seat over there..."

;-)


want one, nao!
By zinfamous on 3/1/2010 7:26:45 PM , Rating: 2
like the subject says.

this machine is sex.




RE: want one, nao!
By ZoZo on 3/1/2010 8:37:30 PM , Rating: 2
If you relate cars to sex, this is extreme bondage with an angry Frau ready to spank you with her Streitkolben.
I'm just not man enough...


taking all bets
By shin0bi272 on 3/1/2010 7:37:20 PM , Rating: 2
lets start a pool. How many of these will they sell in the first 5 years of production?

Put me down for 500, +/- 100 cars.




RE: taking all bets
By Smilin on 3/2/2010 2:30:56 PM , Rating: 2
It's not a production vehicle.

I bet they sell 0, +/- 0 or so.


Not as impressive as it appears...
By goku on 3/2/2010 2:48:00 AM , Rating: 2
While they're claiming 78mpg, they're basing that on the fact that it's a plug-in hybrid, just like the Volt.. This means that while they can claim extraordinary MPG, the numbers are very deceiving. If you're looking for a "green car" this "78mpg" is most certainly not going to be "more green" than the Prius which is rated at 50mpg. This vehicle has the carbon footprint of a car that averages 33mpg combined, which while great, is certainly a far cry from the 78mpg claim they're purporting.




By Smilin on 3/2/2010 1:05:01 PM , Rating: 2
Screw green.

I just want the torque of an electric in my sports car. It's long overdue.


Gorgeous!
By thartist on 3/1/2010 4:13:33 PM , Rating: 2
Nice to see that Porsche came up with a nice refresh to their looks, they were so stuck in the 90's. What about those transparent rims??




Link to first image (full size)
By aguilpa1 on 3/1/2010 8:01:55 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone have a link to a full size image of the first image?




not so sexy
By Yojimbo on 3/1/2010 11:16:26 PM , Rating: 1
I don't really like the looks of it... It's "exotic" but not so attractive.




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