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Porsche gives the Panamera a much needed butt-lift courtesy of the Panamera Sport Turismo

Porsche's Panamera may get a lot of flak for being a bit "troubled" in the styling department (specifically, it's rear-end), but that hasn't stopped the vehicle from becoming German sports/luxury brand's best-selling model.
 
Since the Panamera is a sales and financial success, Porsche is looking to refine the design a bit more with the Panamera Sport Turismo. The Panamera Sport Turismo fixes the ass-end of the original by turning it into a full "shooting brake" or “wagon” for U.S. folks. The fresh styling makes the Panamera Sport Turismo look like a badass grocery getter that would take on the likes of the Mercedes-Benz CLS Shooting Brake.

 
Naturally, being a concept car, the Panamera Sport Turismo features an advanced powertrain with an eye on fuel efficiency. It uses a more powerful variant of the hybrid system already found in the current Panamera S Hybrid and the Cayenne S Hybrid. It features a supercharged V6 engine that generates 333hp that is paired with a 95hp electric motor -- total system output is listed at 416hp.

 
Even with 416hp on tap, don't expect the Panamera Sport Turismo to be chasing down 911s any time soon -- Porsche lists the 0-60 time of the vehicle as "sub 6 seconds". The vehicle can travel up to 18 miles on battery power alone and can hit 80 mph in pure electric mode.

 
Porsche says that the Panamera Sport Turismo is just a concept at this point, but all we can say is: "BUILD IT!"

Source: Autoblog



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Ugly from every single angle
By Beenthere on 9/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Ugly from every single angle
By Spuke on 9/27/2012 12:37:28 AM , Rating: 1
Save the planet types don't buy Porsche. Besides, Porsche doesn't sell very many hybrids. And for good reason IMO. And I like this but I'll have mine with a turbo thanks much.


RE: Ugly from every single angle
By theapparition on 9/27/2012 10:13:27 AM , Rating: 1
The new hybrid Panarama.

Now with extra ugly.


RE: Ugly from every single angle
By Beenthere on 9/27/2012 2:50:49 PM , Rating: 2
...and they'll charge extra for the extra ugly! Only a tree-hugger could like this thing, inspite of the 10 Pettawatts of energy used to produce it. <LOL>


RE: Ugly from every single angle
By RufusM on 9/27/2012 5:18:26 PM , Rating: 2
It's a souped up station wagon. To compete with the old Impala wagons it needs a third row, rear-facing, fold-down seat so the kids can freeze their butts off in the winter.


Meah
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: Meah
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/26/2012 5:49:22 PM , Rating: 2
You know full well that they'll make a Turbo version of this. You and me both would be blazing down the highway with our hair on fire! :)

They just highlight the hybrid for the show circuit.


RE: Meah
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/2012 5:52:53 PM , Rating: 1
They'd better! :P

quote:
They just highlight the hybrid for the show circuit.


But why? Even now hybrids make up like only 4% of all vehicle sales. People just don't care about hybrids! If they wanted to "highlight" this vehicle, especially a Porsche, wouldn't the turbo have more buzz?

See what I mean? It's like the world doesn't make sense anymore! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!! :P


RE: Meah
By Spuke on 9/26/2012 8:09:06 PM , Rating: 2
It's just marketing Rec. Green is the new buzzword and Porsche just like everyone else is riding that pony for all it's worth. Honestly, I don't see the point in them making a hybrid at all considering their own lack of sales in that department and the fact their lineup is pretty fuel efficient as is.


RE: Meah
By Captin Crunch on 9/27/2012 8:56:38 AM , Rating: 2
Audi won Le Mans this year with a hybrid car. Most current F1 cars (the ones at the front of the grid) are running a KERS hybrid system.

Hybrid technology has been lemon-lawed because of the association with the Prius, but there are many other applications of different types of Hybrid tech, which IMO is mega.

CBA googling what type of Hybrid system this Porche will use, but hopefully it will be the KERS system used in the GT3 (developed by WilliamsF1)


RE: Meah
By Reclaimer77 on 9/27/2012 11:16:08 AM , Rating: 1
What's with the preaching? I know all that. What's your point? You aren't saying ANYTHING!

Porsche was a purist company, now it's just making a lot of garbage. This isn't about technology, get a clue.

quote:
Audi won Le Mans this year with a hybrid car.


WOW that's amazingly relevant to this topic! Not. If I ever decide to buy a car just for racing 24 hours straight, this will be an amazing tidbit of knowledge to keep in mind!


RE: Meah
By Spuke on 9/27/2012 12:50:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If I ever decide to buy a car just for racing 24 hours straight, this will be an amazing tidbit of knowledge to keep in mind!
LOL!


RE: Meah
By freedom4556 on 9/27/2012 2:44:06 PM , Rating: 2
It's a reliability thing. Saying you won Le Mans with insert technology here used to mean that it was ready for prime time full production. If it didn't break at Le Mans, it's not going to break on your grocery run or commute. The problem is now, the average age of cars on the road is getting older and older, so it's just sheer years that's causing failures, rather than abuse, lack of maintenance, or bad designs. Almost all cars are reliable the first five to ten years on the road.


RE: Meah
By Captin Crunch on 9/27/2012 9:30:20 PM , Rating: 2
Put simply, the world is not upside down. Porche is taking a technology, which has been proven as a benefit and is adapting it to it's cars, which will be the same as any other car manufacturer, including "purist" manufacturers.

You have clearly accepted that Porche are not a "purist" sports car manufacturer anymore, so why is it such an "upside down" idea to suggest they might use hybrid technology?

F1 & Le Mans are examples that demonstrate the success (or grown pair) of hybrid technology. It would be foolish for any car company to ignore hybrid technology as a gimmick, even "Purist" car manufacturers. I'm sure Ferrari will pop out a hybrid or electric car eventually. It will be the future...deal with it.


RE: Meah
By Samus on 9/27/2012 1:47:43 AM , Rating: 2
Porsche ruined their brand, image and reputation among us loyalists when they made an SUV. I thought it was moving away from their roots when they went front engine (although I loved my 924s) and literally tearing their roots out of the ground when they went all-wheel-drive, but the 959 proved itself to still be a Porsche at heart.

The Cayanne, Panamara, and basically any Porsche larger than the Boxster, doesn't deserve the Porsche nameplate. This is just Audi/VWG grossly tarnishing the Porsche image.

Seriously, have you seen what BMW has done to the Mini? How is it a Mini when it's larger in all directions and has a wheelbase 6" longer than my Focus ZX3!?


RE: Meah
By Spuke on 9/27/2012 9:51:21 AM , Rating: 3
Believe me I disowned them for quite a number of years when the Cayenne appeared (and they are my fav brand by far) BUT without the Cayenne and Panamera, there would be no 911'a, Boxsters, or Caymens. I doubt they would've made it past 2008 without those sales. The purists may not like it but money runs a business not emotion. I have since reinstated Porsche as my fav car company. :)

PS - It was the Cayman that brought me back.


RE: Meah
By danjw1 on 9/26/2012 6:41:25 PM , Rating: 2
Hybrids were first developed for racing cars, then the rules were changed to not allow them. Telsa Motors' Model S Performance EV can do 0 to 60 in ~4s. I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head. So why the hate for new technology? Why are you on a technology website?


RE: Meah
By Reclaimer77 on 9/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: Meah
By Spuke on 9/26/2012 8:10:30 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Hybrids were first developed for racing cars, then the rules were changed to not allow them.
No.

quote:
Telsa Motors' Model S Performance EV can do 0 to 60 in ~4s.
Model S isn't a hybrid.


RE: Meah
By Iaiken on 9/27/2012 1:26:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote:
Hybrids were first developed for racing cars, then the rules were changed to not allow them.

No.


Not first, but KERS derived from hybrid electric power plants were used in F1 for a season and were ruled to give teams that could afford them an unfair advantage. Williams has even set up a company (Williams Hybrid Power) to sell it to racers in other series. The Williams version is tuned in to the traction control system and puts out the maximum amount of additional power that traction allows. The Audi R18 e-tron's (TDI hybrid) have been dominating the World Endurance Championship with this technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_recove...


RE: Meah
By Spuke on 9/27/2012 2:04:19 PM , Rating: 2
KERS has been back in use in F1 for two years now. It was only out one year. Still, KERS is not the first hybrid system and hybrid engines were not developed for racing. Hybrid tech in racing came LONG after it's use in street cars. My answer still stands at NO.


RE: Meah
By Reclaimer77 on 9/27/2012 5:28:05 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah F1 is just garbage that way. They routinely legalize technologies that they KNOW give some teams and unfair advantage.

If only we could combine the kick ass performance of F1, with the fairness and uniformity of rules like Nascar.

But you didn't disprove Spuke and I. He clearly said Hybrid technology was "first developed" for racing. This is mine boggling false.


RE: Meah
By Iaiken on 9/28/2012 10:15:03 PM , Rating: 2
Nowhere did I try to say that it was developed first for racing, only that it is being used in racing to devastating effect because it focuses on recouping power that would otherwise be lost and making it available later.


RE: Meah
By topkill on 9/26/2012 10:04:23 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer,

You're worried about Porsche building a hybrid....when the real crime is that damn thing looks like a 4 door station wagon from 1979!!!

I just threw up in my mouth.

That thing is an abomination in the eyes of all that is good and holy.


RE: Meah
By ShaolinSoccer on 9/27/2012 12:42:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
You're worried about Porsche building a hybrid....when the real crime is that damn thing looks like a 4 door station wagon from 1979!!!


They should just make it look like a Porsche from 1979...

http://automobilesdeluxe.tv/wp-content/gallery/ste...


RE: Meah
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/27/2012 1:41:49 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Meah
By topkill on 9/27/2012 2:40:43 PM , Rating: 2
Sigh...Agreed.


RE: Meah
By Blowme on 9/28/2012 1:38:36 PM , Rating: 2
If you don't like it don't buy it....it's that simple


RE: Meah
By topkill on 9/28/2012 3:23:49 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you must be a prophet or something. You should go out and start a religion or something and teach us all the ways life! Thank you so much for your wisdom, and by the way....blow me.


RE: Meah
By shmmy on 9/26/2012 10:19:52 PM , Rating: 1
wake me up when you grow a pair?

They have been working on a hybrid drive porsche for a few years now. Less gas, more power.

Google road and track 911 GT3 Hybrid 2.0 Race car. Cant link it due to spam.

Stick with tech and maybe not cars Reclaimer :P


RE: Meah
By topkill on 9/27/2012 2:43:53 PM , Rating: 1
So you think the 918 Spyder needs to grow a pair?


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