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Apple's fourth generation iPhone  (Source: Gizmodo)
Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

It's been a wild week for Gizmodo. The popular tech blog got what could be considered the tech scoop of the year (and possibly of the past decade) when it laid hands upon a prototype fourth generation iPhone.

According to Gizmodo's numerous stories on the topic, the phone was left behind at Gourmet Haus Staudt, a bar in Redwood City, California specializing in German suds. The person that found the phone tried to contact Apple directly in order to return the phone. The quest to find someone at Apple who could identify the lost prototype proved unfruitful.

Interestingly, the person who found the phone didn't hand the lost phone over to a bartender or appear to try to contact the person that actually lost the phone. The name of the person was gleaned from his Facebook profile on the iPhone and all of his pertinent information was available -- we know this because Gizmodo outed the Apple employee that actually lost the phone.

In the end, Gizmodo ended up paying $5,000 to the person that found the iPhone and ran with the story. Gizmodo later returned the iPhone prototype at the behest of Apple after it a finished a dissection.

According to Apple guru John Gruber, the iPhone in question is indeed a late prototype judging by its barcode:

One of the barcodes attached to the unit read “N90_DVT_GE4X_0493”. According to several sources (of mine) familiar with the project, “N90” is Apple’s codename for the fourth-generation GSM iPhone, slated for release this June or July. “DVT” stands for “design verification test”, an Apple production milestone. The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I now believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release.

Now, almost a week later, the police are involved according to CNET. Police in the Silicon Valley-area are now investigating whether the actions of Gizmodo and the person who found the phone were criminal and if there is enough evidence to file charges. The investigation is being headed by a computer crimes task force based out of the Santa Clara County DA's office.

CNET also reports that Apple has been in contact with the authorities regarding the incident.

The boys over at Gizmodo and Gawker Media are probably sweating a bit now that the police are involved, but the Apple employee who lost the phone may actually have a free getaway to Germany waiting for him. Lufthansa has offered the unlucky fellow a free flight to Germany where he can continue his love for great beer.

"At Lufthansa we also noted with great interest your passion for German beer and culture," said Lufthansa's marketing director for the Americas, Nicola Lange. "We thought you could use a break soon--and therefore would like to offer you complimentary business class transportation to Munich, where you can literally pick up where you last left off."


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Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By pjs on 4/23/2010 6:10:28 PM , Rating: 5
Real class on Lufthansa's part. My hat is off to them.

On the other hand, don't the police (Silicon Valley police???) have any real work to do. I live in Mountain View and I'm guessing that maybe Apple is trying to make a stink about this. This does not seem to be a crime to me but it may take an "official" investigation to convince others of that. Way too much attention is paid to Apple and their products.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By chagrinnin on 4/23/2010 6:42:11 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah, you gotta wonder why Apple didn't track down their phone the next day with GPS on the phone. Instead they remotely bricked it? They could have easily traced it back to the guys house, broken in and retrieved their phone before hangin' the guy naked in his closet,...and shoving a Droid up his butt. :P

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By cplusplus on 4/23/2010 9:30:16 PM , Rating: 4
From the Gizmodo posts, there was apparently a bug in MobileMe on the new OS that prevented them from using GPS tracking with this particular phone.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By fifolo on 4/24/2010 2:32:55 PM , Rating: 3
Or, give previous stories...
pushing him out the window.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By satveeraj on 4/26/2010 12:54:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL!!! + 10!

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By walk2k on 4/23/2010 6:48:52 PM , Rating: 2
How is it not a crime? He picked up someone else's phone, stuck it in his pocket, and walked out the door with it. He then fenced this stolen propery for $5,000.. pretty sure that's a crime.... and/or crime(s). He may have "tried" to return it later on, but the fact that he walked out with it in the first place, instead of turning it in to the lost & found, or the police, that makes it a crime. It's known as theft. Or what your kindergarden teacher called "taking something that doesn't belong to you".

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By alifbaa on 4/23/2010 7:06:31 PM , Rating: 1
True. When he got the phone, he unlocked it and was greeted by the owner's facebook page, left up from the last time the owner used it. Without trying to contact the owner and waiting the obligatory waiting period for the then lost property to become his property, he sold it to Gizmodo. He stole the phone, and then sold stolen property. But those are not the only crimes here.

Gizmodo, who knew all of this, also didn't attempt to give it back to Apple and also didn't wait the obligatory time period. Thus, they received stolen property.

There's quite a bit to investigate here, actually. This theft deprived Apple of its marketing strategy and degraded its competitive advantage in a product that accounts for an enormous portion of profits in one of the world's most valuable companies. It absolutely deserves investigation and prosecution.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mmatis on 4/23/2010 7:26:37 PM , Rating: 4
He also repeatedly tried to contact Apple to return the device, and they ignored him. Hopefully he did it from his cell phone so there's traceability of who he called when. Why should he contact "the owner", who obviously WAS NOT "the owner" of this particular phone? He TRIED to contact the REAL owner, and they didn't want anything to do with him!

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Brandon Hill on 4/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By rs1 on 4/23/2010 8:46:44 PM , Rating: 4
Whatever happened to "finders, keepers"?

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By shabby on 4/23/2010 9:51:28 PM , Rating: 4
That only works between the ages of 4 and 10.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By JonnyBlaze on 4/24/2010 5:01:27 PM , Rating: 2
Finding a next gen iphone does not make you a douche bag thief. It makes you lucky.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/24/2010 5:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
Finding a next gen iphone does not make you a douche bag thief. It makes you lucky.

No, but living by the motto "finders keepers" does.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mindless1 on 4/25/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/25/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By jRaskell on 4/27/2010 8:58:52 AM , Rating: 2
Possession is 9/10ths of the law.

That's a catchy little cliche saying, but under REAL law, it's not even remotely true.

In other words, I will assume if you leave something behind that you didn't deserve to have that thing in the first place. It can't be very valuable to you if you can't bother to treat it as valuable.

You can assume all you want, but I guarantee you that if I were to leave my car running with the doors wide open, anywhere at all, and you drove off with it, the police won't give a rat's ass what you assumed if they catch you. They will arrest you. You will be charged with auto theft, and you can cry to Bubba about how possession is 9/10ths the law and you assumed nobody wanted the car anyways while you receive night after night of buttseks from him.

The only difference between a car and a cell phone is the cost of the item. Nothing else.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Azure Sky on 4/28/2010 1:12:07 PM , Rating: 2
actually here, they would at minimum give you a ticket possibly even arrest you for leaving your car running with the keys in it, no, im not kidding, I watched them arrest a lady at the convenient store near my house after some kids stole her car (she left it running when she went in for coffee)

they arrested the kids as well, but the kids just got a slap on the wrist, cant remember what the crime is called but its a form of negligence and I dont feel sorry for the car owner for having her car totaled (on a USPS mail box), If you value something you take care of it, I am VERY careful not to leave my stuff behind or leave stuff where somebody could get access to it easily(example i lock the car doors when im not in it.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Patrick Canney on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Patrick Canney on 4/24/2010 9:25:45 AM , Rating: 1
Lot's of bitter people here I take it.
It's a phone, get over it.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By crystal clear on 4/24/10, Rating: -1
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 9:35:02 AM , Rating: 1
I agree, and Apple should do so.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By HrilL on 4/24/2010 2:56:56 PM , Rating: 3
I highly doubt that. What they did wasn't illegal. Buy a stolen phone is probably the most they have to worry about. If it even was stolen.

From the sound of it he tried to return it to the owner. Apple. Since it was a company owned phone. They didn't want it until after the news came out.

Apple is completely in the wrong here. And they should have paid the 5000 to get the phone back if not more if they wanted it back. The phone was bricked by them making it impossible to find out who the rightful owner was when gizmodo finally got access to the phone from what I've read. So only the person that found it who still had access to the OS could have known who the rightful owner was. And maybe be the time he went to return it was already bricked as well. So he tried the only way he knew how and that was to contact apple who didn't take him seriously.

Apple should stop acting like a baby...

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 3:56:17 PM , Rating: 2
Tell that to yourself the next time you lose something, hoping someone who finds it returns it to you. If you would apply your own personal ethics to all parts of life, you would prosper. But to pick and choose what is good and right and what is bad and wrong isn't prosperous.

If a crime is a crime to one, it is a crime to all. If you hope and expect someone to return your property, that should be the same for matter that Apple is a company.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Azure Sky on 4/28/2010 1:18:36 PM , Rating: 2
poor poor apple, i mean they have been harmed so much by somebody fiddling with a beta phone, it probably cost them alot to get that warrent to raid his house after all.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By dark matter on 4/25/2010 5:26:21 AM , Rating: 2
What they did was buy stolen property. You DO know how property law works don't you? You don't have to be touching your property or have it in your pocket to claim ownership. My car is out on the street right now can someone come along and simply "find it" and then sell it on to someone else who knows the car has been "found".

How about if I came into your house and "found" lots of your stuff. Or what if someone came to me and offered to sell me your stuff what they "found".

Wouldn't be so glib then would you.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mindless1 on 4/25/2010 10:20:42 PM , Rating: 1
You can't steal something that is technically abandoned. If the phone was picked out of someone's pocket it would be different, but it was not in the employee's possession so it is not stealing, unlike if you went into someone's house and "found" stuff.

If someone came to you and offered to sell you something they found abandoned in a bar, by all means buy it if you want it.

Remember that if someone finds something you abandoned, there is no obligation for THEM to go to extra effort to FIND YOU! Whether they keep what they found or sell it is rather irrelevant, just as it would be irrelevant whether you kept or spent a $100 bill you found lying on a sidewalk.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/25/2010 11:41:02 PM , Rating: 2
This last post was meant for you and was put in the wrong spot.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/25/2010 11:36:50 PM , Rating: 4
That's exactly what crooks tell themselves. That is exactly the anti-social and greedy attitude. Find any way possible to justify keeping something that doesn't belong to you. To keep something rather than be neighborly and return what was lost.

First off, your attitude goes directly to the "abandonment" scheme. You see abandonment so you can feel "okay" about keeping the item. Secondly, you never consider common sense in that items like this are rarely abandoned and always either fall out of a pocket by accident or are forgotten. That, in no way shape or form, says the owner abandoned it. But you frantically see "abandonment" that you may profit from the loss and misery of another person.

People like you firmly believe you are more clever and wise than all others. But that's another delusion people like you suffer from. You want something for nothing. You spend more energy trying to get all you can without providing compensation. You believe nobody sees your real motives.

Had you chosen a social and caring life, one that looks out for others and befriends and defends others, you would be what you want to be. But instead, you want what you want without paying for it. You tend not to get any of it...because you put yourself above all others.

Regardless of the many layers a person like you devices for their lifestyle, there is only the simplicity of common sense that remains. And that is: The item wasn't yours and it wasn't abandoned. You have absolutely no right to it by any means. Can you steal it? Unfortunately, yes, you can. Can you get away with it? Unfortunately, maybe. Is it right to to do either of these things? Absolutely not! The simplicity of life dictates that you would be a criminal and wholly matter how many people you gather around you to defend your actions.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By cheetah2k on 4/24/2010 7:00:20 PM , Rating: 2
Giving the phone to the bar tender would have been worse than taking it to an Apple employee. So Brandon, would you trust handing over a lost wallet or phone to a bar tender? Someone who's most likely a tourist earning the bare minimum wage?? LOL!

The only crime here is that he elected to sell it to Giz at a profit, however if the Authorities are smart, they will ask Apple why they didnt put a notice out to employees world wide in search of the prototype - and reminding them of confidentiality agreements if it was handed in. The fact that the Apply employee that was contacted had no idea what the guy was talking about just shows how much Apple really did care about loosing the prototype! I mean the damn thing was in the wild for almost 2 weeks, and only now does Apple get the police involved????

Apple should have been offering rewards straight away to maintain the strictest of confidentiality on the phone, and they should also be praising the guy that found it because it could have ended up in more serious hands - eg China!! KIRF to the max baby!

Maybe Apple need to have a specific hotline for returning lost prototypes? Maybe they should have offered rewards, either way, prosecuting this guy will only do more harm than good for Apples image.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Jalek on 4/25/2010 6:08:34 PM , Rating: 2
You've apparently not worked in service, the bar probably gets several phones a week. Everywhere I've worked, that's one of the things you do when it's slow in the morning, try and locate owners of phones, credit cards, purses, clothing... I mean there's no serious searching, usually calling "Mom" on the phone will get to someone that can identify the owner if it's not in the phone display.

A tourist as a bartender? You must visit some odd places, a tourist behind the bar would be robbing the place blind.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mindless1 on 4/25/2010 10:23:15 PM , Rating: 2
In many service industries they do not go through, open or access the property, except maybe to look at a drivers license in a wallet or purse.

They just put it in a box behind the counter or back office in case someone comes back asking if they left XYZ behind and can positively describe the item.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By WinstonSmith on 4/24/2010 11:43:33 AM , Rating: 2
"There's quite a bit to investigate here, actually. This theft deprived Apple of its marketing strategy and degraded its competitive advantage in a product that accounts for an enormous portion of profits in one of the world's most valuable companies. It absolutely deserves investigation and prosecution."

Oh, come on. This is so obviously a publicity stunt by Apple to leak the iPhone specs in a more spectacular and "newsworthy" way than a typical release or leak just prior to the pending release of the Droid Incredible and the multiple Dell releases. I mean, just look at all of the media coverage that has been _wasted_ on it. And I have no doubt that Apple was involved in bringing the police into this thereby milking the farce for even more _free_ coverage. And, in the end, Apple will appear magnanimous when they don't press charges. "Gosh, what I nice company."

Come on people, don't be such manipulated lemmings.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Brandon Hill on 4/24/2010 1:04:37 PM , Rating: 3
While the skeptic in me would love to believe your commentary, one simply has to look at Apple's track record when it comes to product releases and how secretive they are. So secretive in fact that some Chinese workers have committed suicide (or been murdered, however you want to look at it) with regards to product leaks or missing devices.

Heck, even the rather routine recent upgrade of the MacBook Pro line was kept a secret until the morning of the launch.

So if what you are saying is true, then Apple just undid a decade+ of secrecy surrounding its product launches -- and to top it off, on probably their most important product.

And what possibly does Apple have to gain by leaking this early anyway? Not a thing. The launch of a new iPhone is frontpage news in every major and local newspaper, not to mention every tech blog on the planet from news stories to liveblogs so Apple would have gotten massive coverage anyway.

So again, what exactly is Apple gaining here by "leaking it" two months before launch? You could say that it was to stifle the reviews of the Droid Incredible, but Apple usually doesn't react to other people's product launches -- they march to their own drum beat. And there have been plenty of superior-spec'd phones that have come and gone since the iPhone has been on the market, yet the iPhone still continues to gain in sales.

So it definitely wasn't done out of fear, so what could possibly be the motivation from your viewpoint?

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mindless1 on 4/25/2010 10:25:04 PM , Rating: 2
Brandon wrote "The launch of a new iPhone is frontpage news in every major and local newspaper..."

No, it really isn't.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By inighthawki on 4/23/2010 10:04:57 PM , Rating: 5
While there is question of whether or not it was wrong to not contact the owner, I would hardly call "finding" something and keeping it to be the same as stealing. If you found a $20 bill on the ground are you going to put it back because you don't want to steal it from someone or do you smile because you're now $20 richer?

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Brandon Hill on 4/23/2010 10:35:11 PM , Rating: 2
It's kinda hard to assign a $20 bill to a particular person. But if you pickup a cell phone, it's usually quite easy to find out who it belongs to with a few quick phone calls from the phone -- or just checking for personal information within the phone itself.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By rs1 on 4/23/2010 11:35:15 PM , Rating: 4
So if I start writing my name on all my money, I can be stupid and leave it lying around in public places and not have to worry about anyone taking it? Cool.

Just because something has your name on it, that doesn't mean you're entitled to have it returned to you if you decide to do something foolish with it like live it behind at the bar. Stupidity has consequences. Such as losing your things.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Brandon Hill on 4/24/2010 10:03:23 AM , Rating: 1
Accidents happen, and not necessarily due to stupidity. If I'm sitting on a stool and my phone slips out of my pocket unnoticed, I wouldn't call that stupidity. I'd call it an accident.

If someone found my phone laying on the floor, I'd hope that they'd give me the courtesy of trying to get it back to me.

I've found wallets and cell phones on occasion. In all instances, I've turned them into whoever was in charge at the store/restaurant I was in.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By dark matter on 4/25/10, Rating: -1
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By crleap on 4/25/2010 12:30:22 PM , Rating: 2
hahaaaha... "worth reading" didn't seem to quite echo my pleasure with this post. kudos.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thekdub on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/24/2010 3:29:42 PM , Rating: 3
I would and have turned found money to the clerk or whomever was at the place where I found it. If I need $20 bad enough to take it when it is not mine I have bigger problems than the $20 is going to solve.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By inighthawki on 4/24/2010 5:26:07 PM , Rating: 1
It's not about needing or at all. Most people when they find a $20 bill on the ground just find themselves lucky and go buy something with it. Eluding yourself to believe that you are actually being a good samaritan by turning in a $20 is just stupid because it's never going to be claimed. Chances are the person you give it to is just going to pocket it anyway. It doesn't make you a bad person to keep money you find on the ground. Unless the amount of money you find is substantial, nobody is going to come looking for their lost $5/$10/$20 bill.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By thurston on 4/24/2010 5:30:36 PM , Rating: 2
I guess I'm stupid then.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 6:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
Not at all. You are the ideal. If everyone had such an attitude as yours toward everyone else, there would be no crime and life would be a paradise. Nothing stupid about that.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By mmatis on 4/23/10, Rating: -1
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By zozzlhandler on 4/23/2010 8:16:45 PM , Rating: 4
I expect them to investigate crimes, which this undoubtedly was.

As for calling our police officers that insulting name, you should be ashamed and apologize.

The way that name got pushed on law enforcement officers originally was by communist influence. Communists were trying to tear down our society by dividing the people and the police and attempting to set them to fighting each other. The pseudo-philosophy of communism was that out of divided societies in conflict a new order (socialism) could emerge. We have seen where this took the communist countries. It is time for us to get rid of any vestiges of this unfortunate era, now thankfully past, and stop calling our law enforcement offices insulting and degrading names.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By bigboxes on 4/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By dark matter on 4/25/2010 5:27:27 AM , Rating: 1
The fact you got rated up shows the intellect of yourself, this site and those who voted for you.

Doesn't change the fact you're a dickhead and so are those who voted for you.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By MartyLK on 4/24/10, Rating: -1
RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By Black69ta on 4/25/2010 5:23:42 AM , Rating: 2
"Pigs" from communists? are you nuts or just Friggin' stupid?
Communists love police, look at your history Russian had the KGB, N. Korea has it version of secret police. The only ones who may have been more heavily policed were the Nazi's. blaming Communists for calling police pigs is like blaming Mickey Mouse for the Orkin Man.

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By andylawcc on 4/23/2010 10:26:10 PM , Rating: 2
seriously, how does Lufthansa can even connect this incident to a marketing opportunity? It's like McDonald giving a free lifetime supply of burgers to a guy who got fired from a Vegetarian restaurant.

still cool for Luft though

RE: Way to go, Lufthansa!!!
By dark matter on 4/25/2010 5:30:09 AM , Rating: 2
Did you even bother to check the subject line all the way down this thread?

Apple is a cry baby
By mavricxx on 4/23/2010 6:32:43 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is such a cry baby and so full of S**t! Someone loses their prototype phone, someone finds it and tries to do the right thing and then they turn around and try to get Gizmodo (innocent people) in trouble. This is the reason I don't buy Apple products, they are either suing or trying to get someone in trouble. They act like its a super weapong that they're developing.

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By blueboy09 on 4/23/2010 7:02:58 PM , Rating: 1
Absolutely agree w/you. I bet you 10 to none that Jobs has a big smirk like that pic they show. Cops? Goody! Goody! (Rubs hands together) Now all get those Gizmodo bastards, and there puny employees too! (Mimics witch's cackle). But seriously, this could blow up to something big if Job gets his hands into it. He's looking for anything to protect his investment, and I'm sure that he's even considered putting up a little green into somebody's hands (hint, hint) to clear things up, and I wouldn't pass it up when it comes to him. It's snake-in-the-grass actions at it's finest!! Also, a big thumbs-up to getting the "victim" a free beer at the request of the beer-loving society of Germany. Where's mine? I'm thirsty!! - BLUEBOY

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By Tony Swash on 4/23/2010 7:24:47 PM , Rating: 2
then they turn around and try to get Gizmodo (innocent people) in trouble.

Not sure how you make out Gizmodo as innocent. They knew what this item was (hence their payment), they knew it didn't belong to the guy they were paying, once it was in their possession they failed to return it to the people they knew owned it until chased by the said owner. However you cut this they were not innocent.

I actually think that journalists should be protected in general when trying to dig up dirt on the great and mighty but stealing a prototype product just to drum up some viewers strikes me as a bit sleazy. What next - gusset shots of Mrs Jobs getting out of a car?

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By Gungel on 4/23/2010 10:10:56 PM , Rating: 2
This is blown way out of proportion. It's just a new phone that makes calls and does a view more things. Imagine people getting that exited about a new toilet design. In the grand scheme of things its really not that important.

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By FaaR on 4/24/2010 5:21:45 AM , Rating: 2
It becomes extremely important when this "just a phone" will be solely responsible for pulling in several billion dollars in profit for the company selling it.

You know how many attack lawyers that kind of money can buy?

Time to get worried for Gizmodo, I'd say. Hope they burn good for this.

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By messyunkempt on 4/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: Apple is a cry baby
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 4:52:51 PM , Rating: 1
Me too! I hope Gizmodo has their shit flung back in their face.

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By thurston on 4/24/2010 3:38:13 PM , Rating: 4
Depends on the toilet design, I would get pretty excited about a toilet that could wipe my ass.

RE: Apple is a cry baby
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 3:02:55 PM , Rating: 1
Gizmodo is FAR from being innocent. They are a bunch of elitist spoiled-brats who expect the public to kiss their ass in order to be allowed to post comments on the site. They deliberately ignore all questions for help sent to them if they arbitrarily choose to.

I hope Apple rips Giz a brand new A-hole. That should knock their ego down a few notches. I want to see their ego in the mud...and so far, I am getting all that I want. That will no doubt cause the veins in their head to pop out. That's the kind of ppl they are.

I hope Apple brings criminal charges against Gizmodo and also multimillion dollar lawsuits. I hope Apple locks Gizmodo down and does to them what they do to innocent ppl.

By Sazar on 4/23/2010 6:01:35 PM , Rating: 2
I think that the revenue earned in Ad-Clicks will make Gizmodo feel it was worth it and it added to their whole "rebel" persona.

RE: Somehow
By FaaR on 4/24/2010 5:30:03 AM , Rating: 1
They'll feel it's worth it just up until the point where the letter from Apple containing a lawsuit with demands of damages plonks down their mailslot.

I'm no Apple fan (for reasons too numerous to mention), all of theirs I own is a 2nd gen ipod shuffle which I don't even use anymore, but this was handled so extremely badly by Gizmodo they deserve whatever shit they get for it.

You can't sell stuff you don't own without permission, and you can't buy stuff you KNOW does not belong to the person selling it. It'd be a small miracle if Apple does NOT sue, considering what they did to Apple Secrets or whatever the website was called for just leaking info about upcoming products... The whole deal here was extremely ill-advised and should never been made.

RE: Somehow
By alanore on 4/24/2010 11:19:21 AM , Rating: 2
There seems to be a bit of a backlash now at Gizmodo from their readers.

See the comments section.

RE: Somehow
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 5:19:17 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting. Even the blessed-by-Gizmodo commenters are biting them in the ass. I love it! This is just getting perpetually better and better

No processes to deal with this.
By drycrust3 on 4/24/2010 2:49:55 PM , Rating: 2
I find this whole story so full of ineptitude it is incredible. Here is this "secret" phone being trialled and it doesn't have a "If this phone is lost then ring this free phone number for a reward" sticker on it. Then, when it was lost the employee presumably didn't try to contact the finder, nor did they have anyone to contact to report it without fear of dire consequences.
Then, when the Apple call centre received a call from someone reporting they had found one of their top secret phones no one had the nouce to "Take it to your nearest Apple store so we can check if it is one of our secret phones being field trialled, and if it is one and it wasn't stolen then we will have a reward for you (e.g. a new iPhone)".
Nope, what happens is the phone was issued to an employee without any "lost" proceedure, the employee doesn't try to recover it or report it, and the call centre has receiver (who is the "official representative of the company") tells the caller to go away.
I live in New Zealand and we have a saying: "Finders keepers, loosers weepers". The finder had contacted the owner (Apple) and was effectively told "We don't want it anymore", so he was free to do what he liked.
Apple should contact Gizmodo and pay them the $5k + a bit more and drop all legal proceedings unless there is clear evidence a real crime, e.g. mugging, theft, burglary, etc, was involved. The only people who should suffer wrath are those who manage the field trialling because they didn't have any "if lost or stolen" processes.

RE: No processes to deal with this.
By Tony Swash on 4/25/2010 9:54:31 AM , Rating: 2
I find this whole story so full of ineptitude it is incredible. Here is this "secret" phone being trialled and it doesn't have a "If this phone is lost then ring this free phone number for a reward" sticker on it. Then, when it was lost the employee presumably didn't try to contact the finder, nor did they have anyone to contact to report it without fear of dire consequences.

As I understand it the guy who lost it returned the bar he left in as soon as he realised he didn't have it to see if it had been handed in. The guy who found did not hand the phone to the bar tender for safe keeping until its owner turned up which would have been the right thing to do. Instead he pocketed it and once he realised he had stolen something a bit more than a usual phone he sold it to make a few bucks. This is just theft so why are people trying to defend such sleazy behaviour?

If the phone had been your mum's and contained details about her credit cards and the guy who found it sold it for a few bucks to some credit card fraudsters would that have been right? And if not then what's the moral and ethical difference to this guy's actions.

RE: No processes to deal with this.
By Jalek on 4/25/2010 6:09:48 PM , Rating: 2
We don't really know the details, maybe it was a pickpocket that struck gold.

Free plane ticket
By cerx on 4/23/2010 5:37:32 PM , Rating: 3
That is awesome. What a great promotion.

RE: Free plane ticket
By themaster08 on 4/24/2010 5:23:10 AM , Rating: 2
I think they're sympathising because they know he might attempt to "commit suicide" if he doesn't get away ;).

This is ridiculous. Mass hysteria over a god damn phone! Would there have been this much fuss if it was the new BlackBerry model? If Apple wanted their devices to be an absolute secret, they'd let no one take them out of the building, and lock them down in locked up rooms as they demand with developers.

Whilst stealing is wrong, Authoritarian Apple only have themselves to blame here.

If this were China,
By KIAman on 4/23/2010 6:02:45 PM , Rating: 2
the guy who found the iPhone, the employee who lost the iPhone, and Gizmodo would already be nearly beaten to death by now.

I love USA.

RE: If this were China,
By carniver on 4/23/2010 6:54:44 PM , Rating: 2
Steve can sue him until he gets thrown in jail, and there his army of convicts will greet him everyday.

No mention of this on Gizmodo
By Nekrik on 4/23/2010 6:07:10 PM , Rating: 2
weird eh, it is i<anything> related and they haven't even posted their own story yet. Slackers... :)

give it back
By Murloc on 4/24/2010 4:40:44 AM , Rating: 2
when you find something like a wallet, you have to give it to the police (there's lost items office I guess?).
This was a phone, but it was still the best choice from a legal point of view imho.

By Tony Swash on 4/24/2010 5:34:01 AM , Rating: 2
Gizmodo "Leaks" Another Prized Apple Product

Apple Prison
By toyotabedzrock on 4/24/2010 3:48:53 PM , Rating: 2
He won't be flying anywhere, Jobs has probably sent him to China and imprisoned him in the Foxcon factory already.

this topic...
By teng029 on 4/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: this topic...
By MartyLK on 4/24/2010 4:36:34 PM , Rating: 1
It represents multimillions of dollars as a product.

Get a clue <sarcasm intended>

By Silver2k7 on 4/24/2010 3:57:15 AM , Rating: 1
Wow don't you have any real news.
Are you sure it wasnt left as a marketing ploy ?

Its not even anything interessting about this telephone in this article.

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