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Warming up with Wii makes surgeons level up

The popular media has long sensationalized video games for its violent content acting as so-called “murder simulators,” but perhaps now some will see the other side – video games being a life-saving simulator.

Games series such as Trauma Center for the Nintendo DS and Wii allow gamers to play the role of a surgeon to save the lives of patients in dire need of help. According to a recent study, real-life surgeons may be able to boost their life-saving skills with the Wii.

Dr. Kanav Kohel and Dr. Marshall Smith, of the Banner Good Samaritan Medical Centre in Phoenix, Ariz. found that surgeons who “warmed up” by playing games such as Marble Mania for an hour scored 48  percent higher on a virtual 3D training tool called ProMIS than those who were did not play the Wii beforehand.

The researchers attribute the increase in performance to the fine movements with the Wii Remote required to control certain types of games. On the other hands, games that called for less specific, intricate movements were less helpful.

"You don't gain a lot from swinging an imaginary tennis racket," Kahol said in a New Scientist story. "The whole point about surgery is to execute small, finely controlled movements with your hands, and that is exactly what you get playing Wii."

The research team is currently designing Wii software that will be even better suited in training surgeons, potentially leading to a low-cost training system for doctors located in facilities unable to afford high-end simulators.





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No surprise...
By oralpain on 1/17/2008 4:55:31 PM , Rating: 5
that doing activities that require hand eye coordination and manual dexterity makes one better at activities that demand similar skills.




RE: No surprise...
By HakonPCA on 1/17/2008 7:09:57 PM , Rating: 3
Yup, its not just the Wii everyone

Studies have shown that playing video games 3-6 hours a week will help a surgeon perform a surgery 15-25% faster with 15-25% fewer mistakes, with the largest improvements coming from Lyproscopic surgeries (spelling?)

In fact Because the Wii requires less actual finger to eye coordination I would wonder how much "wii" skills would apply to surgeons as they require much more finger dexterity.

Definately not Wii Specific though


RE: No surprise...
By tajoh111 on 1/17/2008 8:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
My friend has a wii currently and is a med student. He has trauma center and he tells me that trauma center is so easy and over simplified that its almost dumbing. I saw him play the game and he demolished the hardest parts.

He not a surgeon either and doing just the basic surgery required of him in med school.

He says it doesn't simulate the real thing at all, its like basic addition compared to calculus. I kind of believe him too because trauma center is only 2d. That 3rd dimension adds alot of complexity.


RE: No surprise...
By Pandamonium on 1/18/2008 12:45:46 AM , Rating: 4
Did you really think a video game is at all like real life?


RE: No surprise...
By jtemplin on 1/18/2008 9:22:40 AM , Rating: 2
Not anymore? He kind of already answered your pointless trolling question IMO.


RE: No surprise...
By tajoh111 on 1/18/2008 1:03:31 PM , Rating: 2
I already said more or less that it is not like real life. Its just some of these reports I think are pretty bogus to try to get people to pick up the wii or atleast give positive publicity.

If I had a surgeons who performance increased dramatically because of a bit of wii action, I would ask for a different surgeon because obviously that guy has no experience.

Seriously how does playing the wii improve performance for a job that requires unfathomable more dexterity and skill.

By the way Wii bowling is nothing like real bowling(as I have one).


RE: No surprise...
By JimmyC on 1/19/2008 9:36:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
By the way Wii bowling is nothing like real bowling(as I have one)


Tell me about it, I'm actually good at Wii bowling, near 300 versus trying to break 100 :)


RE: No surprise...
By murphyslabrat on 1/18/2008 3:38:36 PM , Rating: 2
That point wasn't that playing that game helped, the point was that playing games requiring very fine-tuned actions at breakneck paces related to higher scores on a test.

Trauma Center has nothing to do with it.


Wii = Gold mine?
By InternetGeek on 1/17/2008 4:54:32 PM , Rating: 3
I don't think Nintendo suspected the Wii would turn out to be such a sucess among so many different demographics.

MS and Sony should better come up with Controllers like the Wii's ASAP if they want to score big.

Maybe this article is just a marketing stunt but it is good to see that games are protrayed under a positive light as well. All we need now is for some game maker to come up with a game about a crazy surgeon... Nip/Tuck anyone?




RE: Wii = Gold mine?
By Schadenfroh on 1/17/2008 5:42:59 PM , Rating: 3
Tell us what you do not like about your console.


RE: Wii = Gold mine?
By HakonPCA on 1/17/2008 7:10:57 PM , Rating: 3
I want to see Wii Operation.....bzzzzt....lol


RE: Wii = Gold mine?
By BansheeX on 1/17/2008 11:38:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
MS and Sony should better come up with Controllers like the Wii's ASAP if they want to score big.


I will take a responsive, accurate controller or mouse over a finicky airmouse any day. We don't need three Wiis. Want Wii controls? Get a Wii. Why should Sony and MS abandon the traditional approach? It's still a significant market and at the forefront of the third-party development pool. Let Nintendo get rich marketing to non-gamers, and let Britney Spears get rich making mainstream pop music. I don't care about who is "winning" in the sales charts, I care about new or improved concepts and art within games. Portal was super fun with an original concept, a humorous direction, immersive production values, and challenging level designs. Cheater-free, online competitive gaming is also extremely fun and convenient.


RE: Wii = Gold mine?
By chsh1ca on 1/18/2008 11:44:37 AM , Rating: 2
I would not put a 360 or PS3/PS2 controller in the same class of FPS usefulness as a PC Keyboard + Mouse. I play console FPSes and it seems way to slow and easy for me. Aiming is trivial, etc...

Real challenge can only be had on the PC.


Its incredible...
By daftrok on 1/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Its incredible...
By aurareturn on 1/17/2008 5:24:06 PM , Rating: 2
At this rate, the Wii won't see a price drop until 2011.


RE: Its incredible...
By See Spot Run on 1/17/2008 7:46:02 PM , Rating: 2
even if the xbox saw a big drop in price, it wouldn't cause the Wii to drop in price. Even if the xbox elite and PS3 80GB dropped below the Wii, Nintendo still wouldn't need to drop it's price.

Reasons? The Wii doesn't compete with the xbox/PS3. Those consoles are targeted at "gamers", whereas the Wii is targeted at "non-gamers". sisters/moms/cruise ships/retirement homes would never buy a xbox/PS3 regardless of price.

That, and the unique feature of the wii-mote commands a higher price, as with anything unique in the market.

Lastly, Nintendo can't keep up with demand already. Dropping the price would increase demand for the Wii even more.


RE: Its incredible...
By Phynaz on 1/17/2008 9:15:30 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
I would never spend 250 bucks for a Wii because its so sub featured


It's has the only "feature" that counts: It's fun.


Yeah...
By Wightout on 1/17/2008 8:03:09 PM , Rating: 2
And playing wii help my bowling...

I wonder if they feel much of a difference between holding a scalpel and a wiimote?




RE: Yeah...
By saiga6360 on 1/17/2008 9:14:44 PM , Rating: 2
I can see it now, a Wii in a Holiday Inn commercial. Instant credibility but somewhat less funny.


Who'da thunk.
By vhx on 1/18/2008 12:22:22 AM , Rating: 2
Who would of thought that hand-eye coordination practice would improve performance of a job involving hand-eye coordination?

Was this article really necessary? Was kind of obvious IMO.




By xphile on 1/18/2008 2:42:37 AM , Rating: 2
Surgeon 1:
I just saw the latest posting on the notice board - that's someone playing a joke right?

Surgeon 2:
Sorry Bro, suck it up.. for real my man!

Surgeon 1:
Open-heart surgery start to finish in 14 minutes 38 seconds? Dude you have got to be sh!tting me!

Surgeon 2:
Just BLOWS your 36 minutes into the weeds don't it Hommie. (Big smile erupts on his face as he pokes finger into Surgeon 1's chest and proclaims):

And it gets WORSE for YOU fella! When they counted the gauze swabs at the end I was only short TWO!!

Surgeon 2 turns, fluffs coat-tails of white gown, dances down the corridor and pumps hands in the air shouting "HIGH SCORE! ... HIGH SCORE!" ...




Sure, but
By XPguy on 1/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: Sure, but
By dflynchimp on 1/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Sure, but
By Souka on 1/17/2008 5:40:17 PM , Rating: 2
a very tiny minority...

The guy prob has only used a PC his entire comptuer life...so anything else is "lame"


RE: Sure, but
By dflynchimp on 1/18/2008 1:32:11 AM , Rating: 1
yeesh, someone's really spreading the love with that neg-modding, neh?

If you define "great" games by graphics, then Crysis would beat down everyone for at least the next year or so. Nintendo realized that it can make do with "fun" games that don't require that much processing horsepower, and made do with a nicely developed and innovative control interface and banking off it's old time game series (Metroid, Zelda, Mario varieties), which have a huge installed fanbase (because previous games were also great).

And once SSMBB comes out I'm sooo gonna be PSYCHED.


RE: Sure, but
By VooDooAddict on 1/17/2008 6:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, This is actually an interesting comparison. Though flawed.

Mac ... Targeted at ease of use for those not used to computing.
Wii ... Targeted at ease of use for those not used to Gaming.

Both come by default in gloss white color scheme.

Both have an array of pricey color matched accessories.

That's about where the similarities end though.

Mac's don't get exclusive games. The games Mac does get are typically pretty big names that were either ported to the Mac (or developed in parallel when it comes to Blizzard). Some of the games Macs get are even available on consoles.

Wii gets exclusive games. Many games that are unavailable on other platforms.

Unfortunetly, calling them both poor quality and over hyped is just your opinion without backup evidence. (My personal opinion is that Macs need hype to sell and the Wii has hype because it's constantly sold out. Some hype for both could just be due the drastic differences between them and the "other guys".)

For the record I own a 360 Elite and enjoy its games and media capabilities greatly. Though I don't often have the time to do so. I do not own a Wii. If they were readily available that could change, especially if there was a price drop and/or change in color scheme.


RE: Sure, but
By wonderhat7 on 1/17/2008 8:38:02 PM , Rating: 2
Macs get a few exclusive games. A few.

But XPguy would have a natural inclination to poopoo Apple quality of product (and apparently that of Nintendo as well.)


RE: Sure, but
By inperfectdarkness on 1/18/2008 9:01:34 AM , Rating: 2
let's not forget that nintendo is RELIABLE.

i've said it before and i'll say it again:

if nintendo made cars, they'd put honda AND toyota out of business.


"Well, we didn't have anyone in line that got shot waiting for our system." -- Nintendo of America Vice President Perrin Kaplan










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