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PS4 off to a strong start in Sony's home nation

The Sony PlayStation 4 has been available in the U.S. and other countries for several months and has sold over 5.3 million units combined. The PS4’s January sales alone were nearly twice that of Microsoft’s Xbox One, and didn’t even include figures from Sony’s home market: Japan.
 
The PS4 just recently launched in Japan on February 22 and during its first weekend of availability, Sony sold 322,083 PS4 consoles. By comparison, when the PS3 launched in Japan it sold only 88,443 units on its opening weekend.

 
The PS4 sells for 39,980 yen in Japan working out to about $390 in the U.S. The system can also be purchased in a bundle with the PS Camera for 43,980 yen (roughly $430).
 
A special PS4 with Metal Gear Solid themes will launch on March 20.

Source: Computer and Video Games



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Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/2014 9:45:37 AM , Rating: 3
Its not often that the most competitive product wins, but its good to see when it does.

Sony won this round. Microsoft really screwed up with the Xbone, and the consumers lack of enthusiasm and their distrust of MS is plain.




RE: Not Often
By Arsynic on 2/25/2014 10:31:23 AM , Rating: 3
What world are you living in? Xbox One is $500 and sold almost 4 million units in less than 6 months. That's pretty damn good.


RE: Not Often
By wind79 on 2/25/2014 10:48:12 AM , Rating: 4
Being good or not is relative to your competition. If you scored 70 for an exam where the average is 80, you are not doing that well. But if you scored 70 for that same exam while the average is just 60, you are doing fantastic!

Moreover, this early market makes a lot of difference later on. There are a lot of people who stays only on 1 console, they won't purchase another consoles for various reasons. And thus, they will only purchase new titles from "that" console from now on. The crowd who moved on to the next generation will also affect an undecided last gen gamer. If he sees most of his friends on that console, that's where he is going too.

This console war is going to take a few years, but Sony definitely has the advantage and the gap is only going to widen unless Microsoft has a few more tricks, or Sony seriously screws up.


RE: Not Often
By Dr K on 2/25/2014 11:35:39 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. Momentum is huge in the game console industry. More momentum in console sales sells more games and MORE consoles, it also draws game developers to make games for the hottest console (look at the original Wii and how many games were made for that) which in turn sells more consoles. As someone else raised, it's hard to catch up and very surprising that the PS3 was able to do that after a terrible start. We will see, but the smart money is on PS4 right now. I currently game on an Xbox 360 and don't own a PS3. For those of us who only buy 1 console per generation, we will be placing a long term bet soon.


RE: Not Often
By superPC on 2/25/2014 4:01:34 PM , Rating: 2
But I do hope that steam machine sells better than both console (however unlikely that is). We need some shake up in the console industry. It's getting stale. Indie games are huge in PC gaming, with some titles that can be play for free. Consoles need something like that.

We still don't know though if valve will let games from other distribution network (GOG for example) run on steam OS, but if they do, it will be a truly open platform, in software and hardware. That's something that none of us has ever seen before in console. (Or you could always install windows in steam machines, no one will stop you)


RE: Not Often
By jnemesh on 2/27/2014 11:46:33 AM , Rating: 2
No they didn't sell "almost 4 million". Not yet. They announced, in a press release response to Sony's sales announcement, that they sold three million consoles TO END USERS in Q4 2013:

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-sells-3-million-20...

Then, they announced, in their earnings statement, that they sold 3.9 million units INTO THE CHANNEL...meaning 900,000 units sitting on warehouse and store shelves, collecting dust.

We have YET to hear that 4 million consoles have been sold to end users. Believe me, if they DID, you WOULD see an immediate press release! Their silence is deafening right now.

Add to that the fact that we are now seeing estimates of GLOBAL sales hitting a meager 40,000 units or so per week...it will be a while before MS hits that 4,000,000 mark at this rate.

Add to THAT the bundling of their most anticipated "AAA" game FOR FREE to consoles in the US and a £30 price cut on the console in the UK, a mere 4 MONTHS after launch, and you can see that MS is getting a bit desperate to move product.

No, this time out Microsoft LOST. As time goes by, and sales figures continue to roll in, it's only going to be more and more apparent, even to the most diehard Xbox fans.


RE: Not Often
By jnemesh on 2/27/2014 11:48:26 AM , Rating: 2
oops, forgot the link for the earnings statement where it shows the 3.9 million number:

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinan...


RE: Not Often
By Manch on 2/25/2014 10:41:52 AM , Rating: 1
Sony definetly has the better hardware and is trouncing MS. This is news everywhere else but Japan. If hardware specs for the PS4 and XBone were reversed Sony would still trounce them in Japan. Japanese tend to buy stuff made in Japan over anything else regardless if its better or not. Always been that way. MS tried in vain to get the 360 to sell in Japan.

I bought an XBone and I want TitanFall for it. Wish i had waited for the TitanFall Edition. Same Price but with the game included. Until then, I have Forza & DR3 to keep me busy.

Ill pick up a PS4 as soon as an exclusive game for it I must have comes out. I like Killzone, just not enough to pick it up right now.

Id get TitanFall for PC(my preferred platform) but my brothers/father play on XB360/one so for games like that I get the console versions.


RE: Not Often
By nikon133 on 2/25/2014 3:59:45 PM , Rating: 2
Good approach.

I'm also multiplatform, albeit PC/PS. I got into some of better PS2 franchises back in the days (Ratchet, God of War, Killzone) and wanted to see how those stories will develop... so I got PS3. And that makes it only natural to keep on with PS4.

What I'm saying is, I'd probably be getting PS4 anyway... but it sure makes it sweeter to know that it seems to be better gaming device, and has better start in terms of sales, for all the reasons you and previous posters have mentioned.

I got mine recently because I run into shop with actual stock - they are still quite hard to find in New Zealand (or at least were until a week ago). Waiting for exclusives would probably be smarter thing to do, but what the heck. I got Killzone and AC4, and both look very promising - considering how early titles they are. If you ignore controller, they both could run on high end PC as they are, without being ashamed. Visuals are great. That aside, Killzone is just another FPS (albeit with some interesting add-ons), but AC4 is probably the most enjoyable AC so far, much as I am concerned (I did wait for good pirates game since Sid Meyer's Pirates!, so I'm a bit biased here ;)


RE: Not Often
By Manch on 2/25/2014 5:09:18 PM , Rating: 2
My PS3 is for exclusives and as a blur-ay player when I do buy them. My 360/one are for as I mentioned before playing with my brothers & father. Now BF series I refused to play on consoles. That game will always stay on the PC for me. I wont play an RTS on a console either. I prefer PC for that. For me its all about what platform works best for the game.

I picked up the XBone for Forza. I gave up on GT a while ago. Granted i could have waited and kept on my 360 with Forza 4. I got the wheel and all that, but it was my Christmas present for myself since I had the cash to burn. Would have got a 290X but hell if you can get them at a normal price!


RE: Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/2014 5:24:23 PM , Rating: 2
I can't stand shooters on any console. Thumb-sticks are a poor substitute for a mouse, and auto aim to compensate makes mediocre players as good as anyone else.

Titanfall for the PC all the way imo. If it's even all that good. Personally I'm thinking Destiny is a real game changer and worth waiting for.

quote:
Would have got a 290X but hell if you can get them at a normal price!


The biggest Bitcoin exchange in Japan just blew up. It's only a matter of time before this whole crytocurrency scam implodes, or Government's shut it down. I say wait until the cryptocurrency devastation is over and/or GPU mining crashes and then snag a VERY cheap (and ludicrously powerful) AMD video card. The prices WILL plummet and soon I predict.

Or you can just buy an EVGA Nvidia card today, which has a lifetime warranty and amazing support, better drivers, and is every bit the gamer an AMD card is.

There just can be no justification at the moment for an AMD video card purchase at the current insane prices.


RE: Not Often
By StevoLincolnite on 2/26/2014 3:13:36 AM , Rating: 2
I personally don't consider "lifetime" warranties as a bonus.
Most of the time "lifetime warranty" basically means the lifetime of a product on a shelf, not the consumers life.

In EVGA's case I'm pretty sure it's 10-5 years and not all products are eligible.
And you will only receive that if you register for the warranty within a 30 day period.

I bought Corsair DDR2 Ram years ago, came with a life-time warranty and it became faulty 6 months after purchase, low-and-behold the warranty length was for as long as the product was being sold on shelves, not my life time, heck not even a year. :)

As for "better drivers" well. My experience has been that both nVidia and AMD's drivers are fantastic.
It's Intel's that makes both companies driver sets look gold plated...
So that's not really a plus either. (Your mileage may vary, if you had an nVidia card+Vista you know what I mean.)

As for the prices, that is indeed what it all should come down to, thanks to the inflated AMD prices, it's really a no-brainer to choose nVidia for all your gaming needs at the moment.


RE: Not Often
By Totally on 2/26/2014 8:11:26 AM , Rating: 2
Just found out the other week that the poor drivers* thing is from their poor drivers for Linux. Which gets parroted by every idiot whenever a video card discussion degrades into an AND vs Nvidia fangasm.


RE: Not Often
By Manch on 2/26/2014 4:22:28 AM , Rating: 2
I prefer PC, which is why I play BF on PC. COD is fine on the console, TitanFall as well. Like I said I play on those with my brothers & father The PC version of course is m/k control. It didnt seem to offer much else. Still 6v6. I dont know if this was just for the beta but the PC version was capped @60 frames. I could run it at full detail no prob but fraps had it pegged at 60 the entire time. It didnt look any better than the XBone version even @ 1080p. It's a fun game and worth playing. I dont like that there is no campaign. i like playing those. For a strictly MP game it better offer more in the final game than whats standard fare in COD.

My last card prior to my 6950(flashed to 6970) was an EVGA 8800GTX. Love that card. That may because I paid out the nose for it but it is an awesome card. I still have it.

Im patient in regards to my next desktop builds so Ill wait for the cards to come down to normal prices. The way they are inflated now there is no pressure on NVidia or the retailers to reduce/drop their cards either which sucks. I do play ARMA II/III & use VBS a lot so maybe Ill go NVDIA for one box and AMD for teh other.


RE: Not Often
By themaster08 on 2/25/2014 10:55:52 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Sony won this round.
This has got to be the most asinine comment I've read all week.

These consoles have been out for just a few months, and already you are calling a winner.

This is not the smartphone race. These consoles have many years to go yet.


RE: Not Often
By FaaR on 2/25/2014 11:16:53 AM , Rating: 2
PS3 seriously lagged behind 360 in every market except Japan for years, but eventually managed to largely catch up and even exceed in Europe. Took a good while tho, which goes to show that you can't tell what'll happen in the end of a really long race.

Of course, there's no way of knowing the race will be as long THIS time 'round. :) I think most of us are feverishly crossing all crossable extremities it WON'T be, because last generation was just plain painful in the end...


RE: Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/14, Rating: 0
RE: Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/2014 11:44:47 AM , Rating: 2
The only outcome that might stave off this slaughter is a massive price reduction, and soon.

The Xbone @ $300 looks a lot better. Honestly, that's pretty much what its worth.


RE: Not Often
By Manch on 2/25/2014 12:01:55 PM , Rating: 2
There are several articles talking about resolution and frame rate with the PS4 vs the XBone. The main issue developers have been talking about is the SRAM(only 32MB) and the fact that some of the processing power is reserved for the Kinect. MS has already made adjustments in regards to the Kinect and is working with the developers on how to use the SRAM effectively. PS4 more powerful and is easier to develop for. Last generation it was the other way around and Sony helped teh developers make the best use of system resources and they in turn were able to make some really beautiful looking games with solid frame rates. MS is now doing the same thing this round. Theyll be abl to hit 60 @ 1080P once they learn the tricks to getting it done so quit with the XBone is doomed and the sky is falling already.

They're both decent consoles and when it comes to multiplatform, the differences will eventually be nil. Exclusives are what sells consoles. That will be key.


RE: Not Often
By atechfan on 2/25/2014 12:30:53 PM , Rating: 3
Maybe remedial math is in order. The last numbers that we knew both put the PS4 at about 4 million and the Xbox One about 3 million. Since then, we've heard that the PS4 surpassed 5 million. I haven't seen updated numbers from MS, but even in the unlikely event that not one Xbox has sold since then, Sony is far from tripling MS sales numbers. 3 to 2 in favour of PS4 is a much more likely figure.

No one is denying the PS4 is beating the Xbox One so far, but exaggerations like you just made make you look like you just want the Xbox to fail and aren't even actually paying attention to how well it is doing. Both consoles are greatly exceeding the sales of their predecessors at the same point in their life.


RE: Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/2014 1:02:43 PM , Rating: 2
http://i.imgur.com/sPmnPys.jpg?1

You do the math. Its straight up outselling the Xbone 3 to 1.


RE: Not Often
By atechfan on 2/25/2014 1:09:19 PM , Rating: 3
That is one week. I could cherry pick a week too and make the claim the Xbox is selling better. Maybe the week Titanfall launches I'll extrapolate total sales based on that one week.

Up until the Japan launch, it has been, overall, about 3:2. Now that it is selling in Japan, the PS4 will probably increase the lead significantly.


RE: Not Often
By Reclaimer77 on 2/25/14, Rating: -1
RE: Not Often
By ianweck on 2/25/2014 1:51:13 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
I'm starting to think you enjoy arguing with me over every little thing.


One could apply your quote to every post you ever make on this site.


RE: Not Often
By atechfan on 2/25/2014 9:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't say it wasn't. Just stating that your numbers are bogus. 3:2 is still a significant sales advantage for Sony, just not even close to the 3:1 you are quoting. You can't take a one week snapshot and make any long term extrapolation based on it and have anyone take it seriously.


RE: Not Often
By ven1ger on 2/25/2014 1:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
A friend works for Sony here, he's in management and he's has managed to avoid getting laid off for the past many years as Sony has downsized the workforce. This year, he's remarked that he probably needs to send out his resume because he doesn't think he'll survive this next wave of downsizing.

I have a PS3, PS2, PS One but not sure how well Sony will be doing in the future and how much support will be there. For now, I'll stick with the PS3 and see how the market shakes out before diving into this round of console wars.


RE: Not Often
By atechfan on 2/25/2014 9:11:01 PM , Rating: 2
That is the reason I'd avoid buying the PS4. Sony is nearing bankruptcy, and the PS4 alone cannot save it. I hope they survive, I want to give Everquest Next a shot, but things look grim.


Japanese economy
By ianweck on 2/25/2014 11:58:10 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
during its first weekend of availability, Sony sold 322,083 PS4 consoles. By comparison, when the PS3 launched in Japan it sold only 88,443 units on its opening weekend.


I wonder how much of this is due to their economy picking up since then. Weren't the in a recession for most of the 2000's?




RE: Japanese economy
By Manch on 2/25/2014 12:03:15 PM , Rating: 2
I dont know about economy, but I do know the price makes a huge diff! Remember how much the PS3 was at launch?!


RE: Japanese economy
By TSS on 2/25/2014 8:07:55 PM , Rating: 2
They've been in a recession for over 2 decades now. Japanese real wages have never been as low as they are now. That's not even counting the economical suicide Abenomics represents.

No the reason(s) why it's outselling PS3 in japan is very, very simple: It's cheaper then the PS3 at launch, and it has more games then the PS3 at launch.

More stuff to do at a cheaper price = win. Wonder why that isn't in the article. Too lazy to even put any effort into sony advertising these days? Sure as hell isn't "tech" news. Otherwise i wonder why i haven't seen anything on sales numbers of the latest Whirlpool washing machine, there's technology in there too yknow....


perfectly timed for Japanese student holiday
By purerice on 2/26/2014 5:36:13 AM , Rating: 2
I guess there are not too many Japanese here. Japanese students recently finished entrance exams (to all levels of school from kindergarten to university). The PS3 was released in November, 2-3 months before exams. The PS4 was released just after exams. Parents held back buying their child a PS3 until after exams so launch was slow.
Sony timed the PS4 so it would not interfere with exams and parents happy with their children's results might buy a PS4 to say "congratulations".




By jnemesh on 2/27/2014 12:40:57 PM , Rating: 2
Excellent point! I was wondering if the delay in launching in Japan was just to have more time to localize the western games or to allow time for the Japanese games to launch, but it looks like more thought that I imagined was put into the launch date.


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