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Original 60GB PS3 heatsink with five heatpipes  (Source: DailyTech)
Third-generation PlayStation 3 fan and heatsink lighten console load

The evolution of console hardware is a part of its natural lifecycle. The PlayStation 3, however, has seen a rather accelerated level of change as compared to other consoles.

Within its first year on the market, the PS3 has seen no less than four different hardware configurations. The main differentiator to the consumer is hard drive side, but inside the black plastic casing are many changes that affect wireless connectivity, USB ports and PS2 backwards compatibility. With all those different factors, Sony engineers have had multiple occasions to revise its technology inside the console.

Besides just simplifying or removing circuitry, Sony quickly shifted from a 90nm manufacture process for its Cell Broadband Engine processor to a cooler running and more economical 65nm chip size. This in turn made the system demand less power, which in turn generates less heat and lowers the cooling requirements.

Now according to Japan publication Tech-On, the Furukawa Electric company showcased at the Techno-Frontier 2008 exhibition its third-generation work on the PlayStation 3’s fan and heatsink system.

The first two iterations of PS3 cooling had a massive heatsink cool both the RSX graphics chip and Cell CPU, but the latest model offers separate cooling for each chip. The heatpipes used in the original models have also been completely eliminated without endangering the operation of the PS3.

These changes actually simplify the design, allowing for a noticeable weight savings – the latest cooling apparatus weighs 350g, or half of the original launch cooler.

Such revisions are a part of the reason why Sony was able to halve the manufacture costs of its PlayStation 3 during 2007. Estimates from earlier this year peg the costs to make each console at around $400 – a far cry from the original $840 estimate set during the console’s launch in 2006.



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Probably a factor but
By FITCamaro on 4/30/2008 9:52:53 AM , Rating: 4
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Such revisions are a part of the reason why Sony was able to halve the manufacture costs of its PlayStation 3 during 2007


I would say the better yields on Cell and the lowering cost of the blue laser diode are the bigger factors than 65nm and a reduced size of the cooling system. When the PS3 was first released, yields on the Cell chip were terrible. And the laser diodes were in short supply. Now production has ramped up on both.

Regardless, its good to know since by the end of the year I'll have a PS3. Likely Christmas.




RE: Probably a factor but
By therealnickdanger on 4/30/2008 9:58:55 AM , Rating: 2
Since I don't need one for BD-playback, I have very little incentive to buy one at the moment. The only two games I must own this year are Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, and Vigilante 8 Arcade - all on 360. The other games I'm interested in are multi-platform.

We'll see...

Back on topic, hopefully Microsoft gets their arse in gear and improves the power consumption / noise of the 360. Isn't the GPU shrink coming this fall?


RE: Probably a factor but
By FITCamaro on 4/30/2008 10:11:11 AM , Rating: 5
Thats 3 games. ;)

As far as noise of the 360, I don't have a problem with it. The only game that I've even noticed the console while playing was Mass Effect due to the constant disc access. GTA IV doesn't seem to suffer this problem though and its even more intensive (to me) than Mass Effect.


RE: Probably a factor but
By GlassHouse69 on 4/30/2008 10:23:52 AM , Rating: 2
the noise is absolutely horrendous.

kiddie crap x3


RE: Probably a factor but
By Locutus465 on 4/30/2008 10:36:46 AM , Rating: 2
Which generation do you own? I agree that earlier models will be fiarly noisy, but I have the latest HDMI premium design and fraknly it's far from being my loudest CE device. You'll never hear that thing while playing a game/watching a TV show or x-box live video.


RE: Probably a factor but
By therealnickdanger on 4/30/2008 11:46:09 AM , Rating: 2
I was referring to the relative noise of the 360 to the PS3. The newer 360s are very quiet unless there is a lot of disc-thrashing.

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Thats 3 games. ;)

1+1+1=2 in my world! :P


RE: Probably a factor but
By homerdog on 4/30/2008 12:15:33 PM , Rating: 3
My 360 is loud as f**k, and it's one of the newfangled 65nm HDMI models.


RE: Probably a factor but
By SilentSin on 4/30/2008 3:21:41 PM , Rating: 3
Same here. Far louder than my PC that I make no attempt to make quiet, and it does actually get distracting when trying to watch movies. Even if the movies are digital content without any need for disc access, those fans are going nuts.

I've heard a PS3 side-by-side and the difference is huge. On top of that the PS3 has the power supply internal so it's cooling that as well and doesn't seem to have any problems.

Microsoft hardware has failed to impress me past their initial sidewinder controllers from more than 10 years ago.


RE: Probably a factor but
By Locutus465 on 4/30/2008 5:02:08 PM , Rating: 2
Wow... Not sure what's up with your 360's but mine is very quiet... I'm not saying a PS3 wouldn't nessesarly be quieter, I don't know since I don't know anyone that owns one. But I absolutly can't complain about noise from my 360, even with my sound system turned down low it very easily over powers any fan noise coming from my 360...

My PC at boot is quieter but then again it's in a mid tower case, the CPU HSF is a thermal take design with a 96mm fan that blows air directly into the PSU's fan on the bottom of the unit and my video card is a dual bay Radeon HD 3870 which is considerbly quieter than my old geforce 7800GT. Additionally all my case fans are 100mm. Under a lot of strain my desktop gets quiet a bit louder than my 360 will, though since getting the "after market" HSF for my CPU that has changed quiet a bit for the better.


RE: Probably a factor but
By Reclaimer77 on 4/30/2008 7:06:18 PM , Rating: 1
PS3 owners forget they don't have a game console, but instead a DVD player.

Repeat after me, DVD players are quiet. Game consoles are not.

360 is working as intended.


RE: Probably a factor but
By leexgx on 4/30/2008 8:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
PS3 is an games console, just it has BR as well has more cpu power then an xbox 360 (7 cpus)

Xbox is way to noisy before you even start playing games or do something that needs to use the dvd drive in it, new ones are better but thay need to get the GPU croe downsized as well and stop cuting back on cooling inside (as thay did when thay lowered the cpu core size so fans need to work harder agane)

the only time my PS3 kicks into some noise is when i do Folding@home on it, even then it sounds just above an Xbox idleing type of noise but i have the 90mn ps3 the new 65nm ones are very quite even under F@H load


RE: Probably a factor but
By FITCamaro on 5/1/2008 9:17:30 AM , Rating: 2
The PS3 does not have 7 CPUs. Stop living in Sony marketing land. It has 1 CPU with 7 SPEs (6 used in games). SPEs are a form of register. They cannot make decisions about what to do. Only be given a task and execute it. They do not have branch prediction. They are not anything like an actual CPU. They could not run a computer on their own.


RE: Probably a factor but
By BZDTemp on 4/30/2008 8:54:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL in that case the 360 is one loud DVD player :-)

I find my self having to turn up the volume in games to drown out the 360 noise and that is with racing games where there is constant engine noise :-(

The PS3 is simply a much nicer piece of kit than the 360. Better plastic quality, the slot in thing is cool, buttons are nice... only thing not better than the 360 is the controller which is a bit small to me.


RE: Probably a factor but
By B3an on 4/30/2008 11:49:40 PM , Rating: 2
I just got a 360 Elite today, and its hardly any less quiet than my other 360 that i got on launch day. It's still too noisy, the main problem is the DVD drive noise. My PC is more quiet than both.

Theres no denying the 360 is noisy, magical ones dont exist that are more quiet than others, they are all the same. Anyone who says otherwise seriously needs a hearing check, or is a massive fanboi.


RE: Probably a factor but
By Locutus465 on 5/1/2008 12:21:28 AM , Rating: 2
That's what's kind of getting me.... Maybe I just got lucky as heck but my 360 is actually extreamly silent... After reading some posts this morning I picked up the harmony over lunch and booted up the 360 just to see how loud it was... I couldn't tell it was on at all durring the boot sequence (noise wise). After it was on for a bit with me browsing tabs I could just barely hear the fans if I really listened for it. The second you start playing a game or anything you simply woudln't hear the little guy.


RE: Probably a factor but
By ajfink on 4/30/2008 10:33:35 AM , Rating: 2
I'm in this camp - I've never noticed my Xbox 360's noise. To be fair, I've never used it in an entirely silent room, so take that with a grain of salt.


RE: Probably a factor but
By jonrem on 4/30/2008 12:00:09 PM , Rating: 2
I used to not notice it with my launch console, then I had a RROD and the refurb unit has been horendous. It sounds like an old dustbuster. It's so bad I cannot use it anymore. Whenever the system launches a game it goes into overdrive and is so loud that it is noticeable no matter how loud my speakers are set. I used to be partial to Microsoft, but I'll be buying GTA4 for PS3.


RE: Probably a factor but
By OxBow on 4/30/2008 10:50:11 AM , Rating: 5
I thought our 360 was noisy, but I figured that it was just part of what you needed to deal with and that the PS3 would be just as noisy.

When the PS3 came home I was amazed by how quiet it is. The only time I ever hear the PS3 is if the cabinet door gets shut and the fan has to ramp up to overcome the oven it's creating. I'm not saying that the PS3 runs cool, it does run quiet, though. If they're actually improving what to my mind was an asset on the sytem, that's great, but I think it worked well before.

As for those who say they can't hear their 360's, they need their hearing checked. Even my son, who is completely deaf in one ear and has partial hearing loss in the other says the 360 is to loud (that doesn't stop him from playing on it). If he can notice the fan noise while involved in a game and distracted by his friends to boot, then you know there is something wrong with the fans design.