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Analyst declares PlayStation 2 "on its way out of the industry for good."

Approaching nearly a year since the launch of the PlayStation 3, something is happening that Sony could have never expected: one of its home consoles continues to sell well, as does the software that it plays. What few, including Sony, could have guessed is that it would be the PS2 leading the way, rather than the new technology-packed PlayStation 3.

Last month, the PlayStation 2 sold 215,000 consoles, once again outpacing the PlayStation 3 which moved only 119,400. For casual gamers, the draw of the PlayStation 2 may be its low price and extensive library – two characteristics that the PlayStation 3 has yet to display.

The PS2 still exhibits surprising market strength in its seventh year, though Sony would like to think that it is all a part of their plan, as the games company has boasted that its PlayStation platforms were all designed with a 10-year lifecycle in mind.

One particular analyst at the Deutsche Bank observed a slight dip in PS2 performance in the September NPD sales figures, and noted that it could mean the beginning of the end for Sony’s most successful platform yet.

“PlayStation 2 software sales fell 47%Y/Y to $85mn, representing a deceleration from the 33% Y/Y decline last month,” declared Deutsche Bank analyst Jeetil Patel. “While this substantial decline was inevitable, it is currently unclear whether the drop reflects consumer transition to next-gen software or weak spending patterns amongst the low-end consumer. Needless to say, with tougher comps ahead for PS2 software sales, we think that the PS2 may finally be on its way out of the industry for good.”

Whether or not the PS2 is on the way out, Sony still intends to sell plenty of it to consumers this holiday season. SCEA announced late summer that it will be bringing this November a special edition Ceramic White PS2 console bundled with SingStarPop and two microphones. With both Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band set to appear on the PS2 also, the old console appears to still be relevant in the eyes of publishers.

In fact, a report from Nielsen GamePlay Metrics finds that as much as 42 percent of all console use was on the PS2.


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By comparison...
By Demon-Xanth on 10/23/2007 9:29:21 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure the Xbox and Gamecube sales dropped like Joe Kittinger right after the 360 and Wii were launched.




RE: By comparison...
By FITCamaro on 10/23/2007 9:46:14 AM , Rating: 4
Yea they went down faster than Paris Hilton on a guy in a crappy hotel room.


RE: By comparison...
By mdogs444 on 10/23/07, Rating: 0
RE: By comparison...
By BladeVenom on 10/23/2007 10:00:04 AM , Rating: 1
At least there's the video tape of it.


RE: By comparison...
By FITCamaro on 10/23/2007 10:05:45 AM , Rating: 5
I don't know about you, but I prefer not to get a VD.

Besides, Paris Hilton is f*ing ugly. She looks like a holocaust victim in expensive clothes and makeup on.


RE: By comparison...
By mdogs444 on 10/23/2007 12:21:00 PM , Rating: 2
While I dont think shes the hottest thing in the world, I happen to think shes far from ugly. She would not be my first choice, but i wouldnt kick her out of bed for eating fruit loops.

However, I guess if you are looking for a girl who has the mind of a rocket scientist (or a mind of her own at all), then you best look the other way.


RE: By comparison...
By FITCamaro on 10/23/2007 10:41:39 AM , Rating: 2
You people need a sense of humor.


RE: By comparison...
By mdogs444 on 10/23/2007 12:18:24 PM , Rating: 2
I know, too many uptight people on here. We can be serious on this issues, as well use some humor


RE: By comparison...
By mikeyD95125 on 10/23/2007 5:36:40 PM , Rating: 2
We are not uptight, it just wasn't that funny.

I believe the funny posts get rated up very quickly.


RE: By comparison...
By rsasp on 10/23/2007 1:08:09 PM , Rating: 2
you can't even find xbox or gamecube after couple months when xbox360 released.


RE: By comparison...
By wallijonn on 10/23/2007 1:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm sure the Xbox and Gamecube sales dropped like Joe Kittinger right after the 360 and Wii were launched.


That's because everyone bought every GC that they could find when it hit $99. You couldn't find a GC after Christmas in most stores. Basically all stock was sold out. All Xboxes sold out because MS didn't continue to manufacture them. The same will happen when the PS2 is no longer produced. The big question for Sony is, if they discontinue the PS2, will the PS2ers buy a PS3 or a 360?


RE: By comparison...
By Locutus465 on 10/23/2007 10:11:20 PM , Rating: 2
And today the only nintendo you'll find in the stores 'round these parts is the GC... Well, you'll find DSes as well, but I'm talking consoles....

As for PS2ers going to 3 or 60... I'm guessing the deciding factor will be the available game cataloges, price and value added packages.... At least Sony is coming around on price as best as they can... They're still being beat by MS (as evidenced by the fact that Core/Arcade systems are hard to find), but with the a (much) better game catologe Sony won't totally lose out.


RE: By comparison...
By inperfectdarkness on 10/23/2007 2:02:06 PM , Rating: 2
i'd also like to point out that unlike the pos xbox1, the gamecube still has a place in gaming--it has a player for GBA games. only if/when nintendo releases a gba/ds player for the Wii, will i get rid of my gamecube.

and no, the Wii could not have simply been a repackaged gamecube. there's too much difference in architecture. disk sizes, controller bios, wi-fi, etc.

funny how everyone learned back around 1993 that systems with a base price of $450+ were doomed to the scrap heap. sony is over 10 years behind the learning curve.


RE: By comparison...
By Gnoad on 10/23/2007 10:41:35 PM , Rating: 2
I think all companies learned this time around that we, the consumers, are FAR more budget dependent than they initially thought. With the middle class in the US slowly being phased out by price increases in everything from milk to gas, we simply can't fork out $400+ to play on new systems when we can get a ps2 and Guitar Hero for much, much less.


RE: By comparison...
By ViperROhb34 on 10/23/2007 9:09:31 PM , Rating: 2
One thing the article didnt mention is the PS2 just went on sale as a NEW console only three yrs ago in china after they agree'd to let it be sold there.

That helped sales. Either way PS3 selling in 5th or 6th place ( if you include handhelds ) says alot.

I had a PS2 for a long time and this time around I'm not a PS3 fan. They lack game support which stalls exclusive games that used to be strong in the PS2. Seems there are more exclusives on the 360. I have a 360 and Im gettig a Wii for Christmas.


$1 Million Question
By Guyver on 10/23/2007 10:29:52 AM , Rating: 2
The $1 million question that should be on everyone's mind is how many PS2 owners will remain loyal to PS3 and how many will defect to the XBox 360?

Afterall, Sony now has a cheaper PS3 with no backwards compatibility and no killer title while the XBox 360 is cheaper with a handful of killer titles under its belt.

By removing backwards compatibility on their entry level PS3, they have removed any monetary incentive for cost-conscious gamers to remain loyal to PS3 since people will start from scratch if they can only afford the entry level PS3.

This can only help XBox 360 and the Wii in my humble opinion.




RE: $1 Million Question
By michal1980 on 10/23/07, Rating: 0
RE: $1 Million Question
By Guyver on 10/23/2007 12:11:03 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that backwards compatibility was an after thought for Microsoft and they only implemented it because Sony put the heat on them in terms of features.

The reason why the other two companies got away with it is because prior to the the next gen console war starting, the PS2 was the undisputed champion. Their marketshare was nowhere near Sony's PS2.... but going forward, Sony has the most to lose because of their predecessor's marketshare.

I'm not trying to spell gloom and doom. Just that for some people, backwards compatibility may be THE feature to get them to at least migrate to the newer platform while they wait on a good PS3 game. Some people baby-step it. I suspect cost-conscious gamers do this the most.

And I agree on your assessment of simply adding the newer controllers to the GameCube. But Nintendo needed to reinvent their image and they needed to market a "new" product. Not breath life into something that the PS2 easily beat out.


RE: $1 Million Question
By ViperROhb34 on 10/23/2007 9:15:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, but Xbox had NOWHERE close to established userbase of PS2, nor did they have 500+ games the PS2 had.. yet the majority of Xbox games run perfect on the 360. Sony should've kept BC around.. they flip-flopped on their own "values" about BC the same way they did about rumble saying rumble was old tech no one wanted.. and twice they show they'll say or do anything. Integrity is something they dont have anymore.


RE: $1 Million Question
By Locutus465 on 10/23/2007 10:12:21 PM , Rating: 2
Most of my x-box games weren't supported on 360... Not even the POA sequals (sands of time was the only one that worked).


RE: $1 Million Question
By joemoedee on 10/24/2007 12:53:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yes, but Xbox had NOWHERE close to established userbase of PS2, nor did they have 500+ games the PS2 had.. yet the majority of Xbox games run perfect on the 360. Sony should've kept BC around.. they flip-flopped on their own "values" about BC the same way they did about rumble saying rumble was old tech no one wanted.. and twice they show they'll say or do anything. Integrity is something they dont have anymore./quote>

I believe the number is somewhere around 300 Xbox games that are compatible with the Xbox 360 (Total released games as shown on Xbox.com is 800) Not a real strong percentage.

I'm unsure if it is an integrity thing, or Sony just trying to feel the buyers pulse. Backwards Compatibility was big with the PS2 and PS1, however it does not seem to be a huge selling point this time around. (Probably due to the high number of installed PS2s in the market) Customers wanted rumble, they're adding rumble. The PS3 is not selling due to its high price, so they're trying to address that. Now if they could only get some games on it...