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Underground releases are usually accompanied with elaborate "NFO" files, such as this one.
Hackers vow to destroy P2P, “one step at a time”

Private BitTorrent tracker Feedthe.Net was recently attacked by a group of hackers claiming to be members of the underground release ‘Scene.’ The group released a text file containing intimate personal details about one of the site’s administrators, Brandon Taylor.

The text file – called an NFO file – was signed by “CELLKiLL,” with a subtitle that describes the group as “Destroying the P2Ps, One Step at a Time.”

According to TorrentFreak, FeedThe.Net is the second such BitTorrent tracker to fall prey to CELLKiLL’s vendetta.  Late last year, SuperTorrents and its administrator Ersan suffered grievous security breaches, with the attack culminating in a lengthy NFO describing the site’s security systems as well as the theft of $2,000 from the site’s PayPal account.

While it may not seem so, it appears that the world of P2P file sharing is under siege from both the legal content industry, as well as the very groups who supply the scene with releases -- many “warez” groups are just as picky about distribution as the content providers they steal from. Oftentimes, release groups have approved channels for distribution as well as strict formatting rules, and historically they have not taken kindly to interruptions.

It appears that this specific attack was a direct reaction to Taylor’s behavior, as the group accused the FeedThe.Net of stealing “thousands and thousands of releases from the scene” and then banning sites that he claims stole from him. Despite this, the attackers’ agenda is not completely clear; CELLKiLL offered a number of different possible intentions without stating specifically what – or who – it was working for.

The NFO file closed with a warning, stating that there are more attacks yet to come: “We have yet again erased another torrent admin from existence. Other Groups (sic), do your part to make the scene what it was in the beginning. Secure.”



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Honor among thieves?
By ice456789 on 1/9/2008 6:25:30 PM , Rating: 5
"How dare you take what I have rightfully stolen!"




RE: Honor among thieves?
By Polynikes on 1/10/2008 11:53:10 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously, why the hell do they care HOW their releases get distributed? Isn't the whole point that it should be free for all to acquire by whatever means necessary?

Or am I missing the point of pirating?


RE: Honor among thieves?
By aharris on 1/10/2008 12:38:40 PM , Rating: 5
These hackers require recognition for their efforts in order to inflate their ePeen.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By Polynikes on 1/11/2008 1:24:29 PM , Rating: 2
So it seems. Poor bastards must have no self-esteem at all.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By Shwanzig on 1/12/2008 7:28:10 PM , Rating: 2
Aye, this has 4chan all over it.

People want more people to dl their torrents, so they seem that much cooler.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By HighWing on 1/10/2008 1:20:07 PM , Rating: 2
At one time that was the war cry, but as someone else already mentioned many hackers now are only it it for the fame. And because of the larger and more open web, many hacking communities suddenly found themselves easily being discovered themselves. In response many closed their doors tight and will only allow new members by request from more then one existing member. IMO many of the ones on the front act more like High School Cliques then what Hackers used to be.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By SiN on 1/10/2008 2:23:04 PM , Rating: 4
you know i really miss those good old days when the information was free and the power of knowledge was easy to obtain. now everythings locked down tight. and every click you take is a firewall you have to pay the privillage to pass.

yes i mean to say that to do anything on the net it costs you. and the things you get are not what they once were, but watered down and diluted.

I welcome back the old days anytime... horay to the 90's.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By shabby on 1/12/2008 11:52:34 PM , Rating: 3
Originally warez content wasnt meant to be distributed to little johnny like it is today, it was only meant for those in the scene.
Back in the day you had to know a lot of people who could vouch for you to be given access to a site, and even then you had to move releases around to keep your ratios up before you could download something for yourself.
Now you just go to goggle, type in "300 torrent" and you have your release... its too easy and the people rip/crack/curry dont appreciate it.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By acme420 on 1/11/2008 2:14:13 AM , Rating: 2
this is how it works.

someone gets a piece of software through whatever means.

they then rip (remove all protections and then package it) the software (includes movies and music) and upload it to a private server. one of many in a private network.

groups get credits for uploading and whatnot. these credits are used to download/ get acces to higher up servers.

this is a secure model with limited access.

the way warez gets from these private servers and eventually into your hands is because people affiliated with groups along the chain download from the servers and then in turn spread the release to wider distribution networks such as p2p, torrents and usenet, etc.

almost every p2p/torrent site ive seen has a section where you donate money and get more credits/bandwidth. when money comes into the equation then so does the fbi. this is a security risk. which is why the "scene" doesnt like p2p.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By acme420 on 1/11/2008 2:17:04 AM , Rating: 3
i forgot to add. pirating isnt about getting software to you for free. all it is when you boil it down is a private game of skill to see who's the best at cracking protections the fastest. you getting free music and movies is just a side effect.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By Christopher1 on 1/11/2008 10:18:37 AM , Rating: 1
Actually, it's usually about, for most hackers, restoring their right to fair use of things and not having to buy countless numbers of the same item in different formats from the studios.

That's the main reason why I use DVD ripping software: I want to buy the disks, rip the thing to Divx at a reasonable bit-rate, and then get rid of that disk (trash it, not sell it) and burn multiple movies to one DVD, to save space!


RE: Honor among thieves?
By Christopher1 on 1/12/2008 12:17:58 PM , Rating: 1
Voted down because I am telling the truth here?


RE: Honor among thieves?
By glitchc on 1/13/2008 2:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
No, it's because you're not. This warez scene has existed for software primarily long before DVDs and mp3s became popular. Anyone can crack a DVD or a music CD now because the tool is widely known. Heck, WMP will do it out of the box for a music CD. Each new software or game, however, may or may not have a different kind of protection scheme, and therefore the crack is almost always individualized.

A case in point: Try cracking a game like Bioshock by yourself, by just working with game DVD, and without downloading any prepared crack. Let's see how far you get. Note that I'm not condoning cracking here, of course. I'm merely stating that there is a certain level of expertise required here which even most IT professionals (self-proclaimed computer experts) do not possess.

It has never really been about fairness. To assume that hackers are extremely altruistic people working for the good of the common man is highly fallacious. It is always about bragging rights and respect. Far enough down the line, bragging rights and respect can translate into money.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By wetwareinterface on 1/11/2008 9:20:53 AM , Rating: 2
by acme420 on January 11, 2008 at 2:14 AM

this is how it works.

someone gets a piece of software through whatever means.

they then rip (remove all protections and then package it) the software (includes movies and music) and upload it to a private server. one of many in a private network.

groups get credits for uploading and whatnot. these credits are used to download/ get acces to higher up servers.

this is a secure model with limited access.

the way warez gets from these private servers and eventually into your hands is because people affiliated with groups along the chain download from the servers and then in turn spread the release to wider distribution networks such as p2p, torrents and usenet, etc.

almost every p2p/torrent site ive seen has a section where you donate money and get more credits/bandwidth. when money comes into the equation then so does the fbi. this is a security risk. which is why the "scene" doesnt like p2p.


actually that's not how it is at all.
the days of private ftp credit accounts are over as most ftp server software has holes that are easy to exploit.
hacker 'scene' distribution is through simple methods either newsgroups or irc initial 'proof of hack'. this is simply a "hey look at what i cracked, i'm a l33t haxorzerer lol etc.." it is all about e-penis ego and proof of 'skillz'. they want as many in the 'scene' to see it as possible and so it isn't private at all but mass distributed to catch as much attention as possible.

the issue these tards are having is not their work being further distributed but their e-penis ego being plagerized by others claiming to do the cracking and are simply repackaging the material and deleting the original nfo files and retagging it with another nfo release file. you'll see it often when one groups nfo file has a big fuck you to another group in the text for claiming credit. first line distribution is either newsgroups or irc or even torrent sites.

the particualr issue here seems to be a torrent site operator is taking torrent files off of other sites and reseeding the files through their own tracker nets. this causes a problem in e-penis torrent land as now the exact same file is out there on 2 seperate tracker unique id's causing the distribution to get screwed up because you are splitting the seeds and that slows things down and reduces your e-penis when your hacked release is only being downloaded by 1/2 the audience it normally would show as having so you can't brag about your 'release' of windows vista (for the sake of example) being so popular as to be shared by xxxxx amount of people and downloaded by xxxxxx amount of people.

it's a stupid e-penis war and nothing else.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By spindoc on 1/11/2008 1:52:00 PM , Rating: 2
Here is my opinion... and nothing more.

The first things I remember downloading from the internet were music, games and porn. These were downloaded using newsgroups, IRC and FTP. Since these tools required a brain to use leeching was not that popular and remained underground beyond the sight (or cares) of stockholders. Let's not kid ourselves... it's the stockholders of large coporation that have been bringing the heat in recent years.

The greatest leeching tool (or simplest) to hit the web was Napster. It was the first P2P tool that I can remember and it made getting MP3s a whole hell of a lot easier. Of course, the downside to it's popularity was it's eventual demise. Metalica vs. Napster by Camp Chaos: Best Flash Cartoon Ever!

The same thing is happening with Torrent sites and the people providing the content on those sites are finally sick of all the attention they are getting and are attempting to put an end to it. Let them do it. Let's go back to the days when our moms weren't part of the leeching scene. My mom doesn't even know that what she is doing is illegal yet she knows how to do it.


RE: Honor among thieves?
By JS on 1/12/2008 8:23:15 PM , Rating: 2
No, everything was a lot better when the main distribution chain consisted of sending C-64 cassette tapes by mail.

These internet tubes are messing up the whole scene, man.


By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 1/14/2008 1:45:50 PM , Rating: 2
The top of the Scene hierarchy still relies exclusively on FTP distribution.


Disrespectful
By mufster123 on 1/9/08, Rating: 0
RE: Disrespectful
By TomCorelis (blog) on 1/9/2008 8:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
Without any kind of direct information, there's no story. With even the tiniest bit direct information, anyone with half a brain could punch a few tidbits into Google and come up with the full story. Sometimes, you just have to walk the line. The people who actually care already have the source materials anyway -- and I hope you have similar criticism in store for Torrentfreak and the other bloggers that picked up on this before I did.


RE: Disrespectful
By jajig on 1/9/2008 9:43:37 PM , Rating: 3
Better watch you back Tom the Scary Fairy is after you! Nothing can instil fear in a person like a threat on an Internet forum.