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Acer Aspire 9920G   (Source: Notebook Italia)

Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xi 2428  (Source: Notebook Italia)

Sony VAIO CR31S / D  (Source: Notebook Italia)
Notebook Italia spills the beans on a slew of new "Penryn" notebooks

Intel's 45nm Penryn-based desktop and server processors were released to an eager audience a few months ago. January 6 is the big day for Intel's Penryn-based notebook processors and it appears that the Santa Clara-based company won't disappoint.

As reported by DailyTech in early December, the Penryn notebooks to be launched in January will consist of the Core 2 Duo T8100, T8300, T9300, T9500 and Core 2 Xtreme X9000. Frequencies for the processor range from 2.1GHz on the T8100 on up to 2.8GHz on the X9000.

Even though Intel's official announcement won't come until January's Consumer Electronics Show (CES), notebook manufacturers are already leaking details for their upcoming Penryn-based notebooks. Notebook Italia has scored information on new Penryn notebooks from Acer, Fujitsu and Sony.

Acer will launch no less than eight new Penryn-based notebooks in January ranging from the 12.1" Aspire 2920 with a Core 2 Duo T8300 processor and 320GB HDD to the massive 20.1" Aspire 9920G with a WXSGA+ screen resolution, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT GPU, Core 2 Duo T8100 processor and 500GB of storage space (250GB x 2). Acer also has a full range of notebooks in between with screen sizes of 14.1", 15.4" and 17.1".

Fujitsu has two new Penryn notebooks on deck. The first is the Amilo Pi 2550 which features a Core 2 Duo T8300 processor, 2GB of DDR2 memory, 15.4" WXGA screen, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 GPU and a 240GB HDD. The second notebook is the Amilo Xi 2428 which ups the ante with a Core 2 Duo T9300, 2GB of DDR2 memory, 15.4" WXGA screen, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS GPU and a 250GB HDD.

Not to be left out, Sony is unleashing five new VAIO models ranging from the 13.3" VAIO SZ71XN/C to the 17.1" VAIO AR61ZU. The VAIO SZ71XN/C comes up to bat with a T8100 processor, WXGA screen resolution, Intel GMA X3100 integrated graphics and a 200GB HDD. The VAIO AR61ZU commands your attention with a T8300 graphics processor, 3GB of DDR2 memory, WUXGA screen resolution, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor, 500GB of storage space (250GB x 2) and a Blu-ray/DL DVD burner.

The above notebooks are just the first wave of new Penryn-announcements. Expect a bevy of new announcements at the start of CES from manufacturers including HP/Compaq, Dell and Asus.



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3GB in a lappy?
By Myrandex on 12/30/2007 11:03:06 AM , Rating: 2
That AR61ZU either has 4 memory slots (unlikely) or is running 1 x 2GB and 1 x 1GB therefore single channel mode (yuck). Just make it 4GB and say hello to x64 edition.




RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By StevoLincolnite on 12/30/2007 11:19:49 AM , Rating: 1
"Aspire 9920G" - I think I am in love.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Cr0nJ0b on 12/30/2007 12:25:17 PM , Rating: 2
Does Acer make good (reliable) laptops? I'm sure they have a following somewhere, but I've never tracked them...I always assumed that they were tier 2 at best...but that really is a nicely styled system.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By lumbergeek on 12/30/2007 1:44:16 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, they do. I'd take an Acer over a Sony any day of the week.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By therealnickdanger on 1/2/2008 11:20:59 AM , Rating: 2
Acer is very good, but I'd buy any brand that has great features for a great price. They are all basically the same on the inside, you just choose who you want to build it... or build it yourself.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By ImmortalZ on 12/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By mxnerd on 12/31/2007 2:43:15 AM , Rating: 3
Acer is Acer, COMPAL is COMPAL. They are completely different companies, no relationship at all.

Besides, Quanta, not COMPAL, is the world's biggest OEM laptop manufacturer.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Samus on 12/31/2007 8:42:42 AM , Rating: 2
Acer has always had decent laptops, but anything they offer for under $600 has always been kind of cheap feeling (Aspire 3000, for example.) However, their Travelmate notebooks are top notch, comparable to a Thinkpad in terms of a good business machine.

And like Dell and IBM, Acer laptops are easy to service with an abundant amount of support and supplies around the web. HP/Compaq have become very difficult to service since they merged, however, at least HP adopted compaq's 'spare' part number system.

Sony's VAIO's are complete hell to service. Spare part's on eBay have always been my best bet, usually used screens, keyboards, etc. They're pretty, but crap on the inside (just like Apple's notebook architecture.)

Fujitsu's Lifebooks put a sour taste in most mouths during their prime in the late 90's, and I'm not sure how much better they've gotten. Support was always difficult to accomplish.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Mojo the Monkey on 1/2/2008 3:42:56 PM , Rating: 2
maybe you meant to say that many of acer's computers come from COMPAL as the OEM manufacturer. that would probably be accurate.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By StevoLincolnite on 12/30/2007 2:35:06 PM , Rating: 2
I had an Acer Extensa 2300 as my first laptop, and got it back in 2003, I then gave it to a friend as I wanted something with more 3D rendering power, so I got the Aspire 1680.
The Extensa 2300 has been going strong for 4 years now without a single Hardware issue, Its actually surprising though it's lasted this time considering how much it gets thrown around.

They are usually fairly light, with decent screens and good performance and a good warranty, far better than a Dell, or a Sony in My Opinion, if I had the money I would go for an Alien Ware Laptop, because seriously... They look hot.

Still... I am in love with that Acer... Someone buy me it, and I shall send you the wedding photos!


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By 440sixpack on 12/30/2007 5:31:19 PM , Rating: 2
A friend of mine has an Aspire 9810 (20" screen), and it actually has been pretty shoddy quality - poor keyboard/trackpad response, problems with USB and bluetooth, the DVD drive broke, etc. But then he beats on it pretty hard. I was not too impressed with the build quality of it myself - but then I am used to Thinkpads.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Spuke on 12/30/2007 11:25:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yes they do. Bought one for my stepdaughter a couple of years ago. Works great! A friend owns one too and is very happy with it. One of the things I liked is that they don't load a bunch of crap software on it.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By StevoLincolnite on 12/31/2007 12:06:26 AM , Rating: 2
But they do Partition the drives, but that never bothered me, I always formatted anyway "Just to make sure the junk was gone". - I've recommended Acer to allot of people, they do make top laptops.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By ImSpartacus on 12/30/2007 9:58:44 PM , Rating: 2
I hope you understand that that model has a 20 in screen and will most likely be a brick. I try to rationalize paying for a laptop with the thoughts that I can bring it places... without a forklift...

But everyone likes different stuff. I personally like the styling on those vaio's.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By StevoLincolnite on 12/31/2007 12:09:26 AM , Rating: 2
My Current Acer has a 17" Widescreen and the bezel around it says to me "I can have a 20" monitor to!" - And I just swing it under my arms, and chuck the power cord in my pocket or whatever, and I'm all set, they aren't actually that heavy, and it would probably do more good than harm with allot of people carrying around heavy laptops. (Free workout).
And they aren't as bulky as you might think either.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Flunk on 12/30/2007 12:25:07 PM , Rating: 2
Could also have 3 ram slots. Odd numbers of slots are possible with DIMMs.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By rninneman on 12/30/2007 12:34:01 PM , Rating: 4
Intel Flex Memory Technology has been in some of their chipsets for awhile. It enables dual-channel mode even with dimms of different sizes.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Assimilator87 on 12/30/2007 12:48:46 PM , Rating: 4
Although this doesn't pertain to laptops, I've ran different size/make DIMMs in dual channel for years on both the nForce 2 and nForce 4 without any problems.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By Anonymous Freak on 12/30/2007 11:03:46 PM , Rating: 2
Uh, one, these are Intel chipsets, not nVidia. Two, it DOES apply to Intel's notebook chipsets.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By mxzrider2 on 12/31/2007 1:29:53 AM , Rating: 1
cant run dual channel on nforce 2, blah. athlon and xp variants did not support dual channel memory. so almost all nforce 2 boards have 2 slots as even 2 gigs of memory was rarely needed when they were designed. my trust dfi built nforce board would have loved dual channel.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By MDE on 12/31/2007 4:28:03 AM , Rating: 2
Two RAM slots = two channels on nForce2. Your trust DFI board did have dual channel, as did my Asus and Abit boards.

Read the part about dual 400MHz DDR memory controllers...
http://www.nvidia.com/page/nf2_eg.html


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By AstroCreep on 12/30/2007 3:57:18 PM , Rating: 4
How much of a performance increase can you expect with dual-channel in a notebook though, really?
I'm not flaming, I'm asking, as I don't know...


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By IvanAndreevich on 12/30/2007 8:57:29 PM , Rating: 2
0-10%. Usually closer to 0, I think. If you have integrated graphics it would be a whole different story, though.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By cochy on 12/31/2007 12:13:02 AM , Rating: 2
Dual Channel RAM on paper provides more bandwidth however you'll hardly ever see real life performance gains of over a 1% or so.


RE: 3GB in a lappy?
By johnsonx on 12/31/2007 2:53:00 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not saying this particular model does or does not have this, but I certainly have seen some notebooks that have some amount of RAM on the mainboard (saves money on the base model), and then one or two slots to add RAM. So this could have 1 GB onboard in dual-channel, then 2 slots to add more dual-channel RAM.


Can someone please shap the crap out of HP....
By SiliconAddict on 12/30/2007 4:38:50 PM , Rating: 2
Why in the name of god is HP using AMD in their tablet PC...price? Gah. Please HP....get a brain why don't you. AMD in desktops. Sure. Fine. Go ahead. AMD in higher end laptop\tablets is retarded.




By nerdye on 12/30/2007 8:12:14 PM , Rating: 3
From a consumers stand, I see your point as intel holds the greatest performance advantage in mobile computing at this time, but HP has done this for a reason that equates to dollars have they not? Perhaps a counter argument will ensue, but if HP was not making the most profit on their tablets considering they use both AMD and Intel cpus in their portfolio, mocking their choice from a financial standpoint does not make sense. But I hear you, and agree with you as a consumer, penryn and nahelem are the future purchases of most of us.


By rcsinfo on 12/30/2007 8:12:38 PM , Rating: 2
Check out the HP tc4400 and the 2710p business line tablets. Both models are Intel chips only. I think the Pavilion AMD tablet was aimed more at the consumer market.

Now getting back to the article at hand, Will the new Penryn notebook chips work in existing notebooks? HP's tablets tend to have a longer production run, so I am wondering if we will see the new chips in the 2710p tablet.


Model numbers
By imperator3733 on 12/30/2007 7:49:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Core 2 Duo T8100, T8300, T9300, T8500 and Core 2 Xtreme X9000


Isn't it the T9500 ?




RE: Model numbers
By nerdye on 12/30/2007 8:05:09 PM , Rating: 3
If you must be logical, my bet is you are correct sir. This guy wrote this article in 5 minutes between taking a dump and watching reruns of sampson and son, lol.


RE: Model numbers
By Spuke on 12/30/2007 11:28:33 PM , Rating: 2
That would be SanFORD and Son. :)


Acer and Penryn
By sprockkets on 12/30/2007 2:59:08 PM , Rating: 2
I've been looking forward to 45nm processors for the desktop. Oh well, laptops should be first.

For Acer's reliability, a friend of mine at Carrier said they bought a bunch of them, and had issues with them more than they did with Dells. Compal may own them, but again, you get what you pay for.

Not saying they are junk; I would buy one because they are cheaper. I know my cheaper Brother printer will not outlast my HP, but it had better features and to me was a better deal.

Now having a carbon fiber Sony $1700 would be nice, if I had that kind of money.




RE: Acer and Penryn
By jconan on 12/30/2007 7:52:25 PM , Rating: 2
What Acer series did they buy? Was it the Aspire or the Extensa line? Isn't the Extensa series the business edition of their notebooks? (Most business series are more reliable than consumer lines. Basically you get what you pay for.) As for Dells even with Dells they also tend to break down. A few of my friends had Dells where their drives broke down within a few months but good thing it was in the warranty period of the notebook. The SD card reader on the notebooks are starting to become unreliable.

Does Acer carry any notebooks with LED backlighting?


RE: Acer and Penryn
By StevoLincolnite on 12/31/2007 12:15:57 AM , Rating: 2
Actually the Aspire and the Extensa use fairly similar parts, like the motherboard, Casing, sometimes even the monitor, but what they usually lack is a decent amount of memory, and Discreet Graphics, and are usually equipped with a slower processor, They are more of the "Bargain Laptop" my First laptop was an Extensa, before realizing that I did not have enough Graphics Power to run even the most basic of 3D games.
(It used the Intel Extremely Crap Graphics Version 2 back then).

Never had Issue's with them, except with the Hard Disk getting the "Click of death" but that actually didn't surprise me considering how much the machine used to get thrown around. (And still does, I dropped it down the Sand Dunes once.. I still haven't cleaned it out).

People who say "We bought 20 of this, or 500 billion of that and they all broke" - Are usually fibbing or biased towards another company, I mean seriously? Do even the Xbox 360's have that much of a defect/failure rate?


Intel 's 45 nm & Nvidia SLI ?
By crystal clear on 12/31/2007 10:04:09 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Intel's 45nm Penryn-based desktop and server processors were released to an eager audience a few months ago.


Rahul Sood has a blog here on this site, also has his own blog site.

He use his site to get himself in trouble......

Read on-

We haven't launched Intel's 45 Nanometer processor as planned. We, like many, were hoping that it would work flawlessly on certain chipsets - and well, unfortunately it doesn't - not yet anyways. Even though we were getting close to qualifying it - last week we received some really bad news. The bottom line is we're working on a solution for Nvidia SLI, but at the moment there isn't one.

Interestingly enough there are those out there configuring this processor in configurations which we *know* are unstable. I think their customers will be in for major disappointment based on current issues. ..although there are certain configurations which do work, the question is whether they deliver a decent value to the customer.

That said, it's not an issue of Intel's chip reliability, it's an issue of platform stability on certain current non-Intel platforms.

I don't want to get into the details, it's not a pretty situation. There is much confusion surrounding this launch -- it's somewhat unbelievable.


http://www.rahulsood.com/2007/11/intel-45-nanomete...

Now Rahol you better be sure what you are talking about & you bettter be sure with your facts.

it's an issue of platform stability on certain current non-Intel platforms.

I don't want to get into the details, it's not a pretty situation. There is much confusion surrounding this launch -- it's somewhat unbelievable.



Do you have to go public rather than approach Intel for a solution ?

What do you gain by making such statement-do these statements get you the solutions you are looking for ?

Now whats this ? -share it with us,since you go public.

last week we received some really bad news.

Whats the bad news ?




RE: Intel 's 45 nm & Nvidia SLI ?
By crystal clear on 12/31/2007 10:38:17 AM , Rating: 2
Or like Charlie Demerjian concludes-

What does it all mean? Without concrete explanations, not much at all.
That said, there are too many things coming in from too many places for me to think all is well, but nowhere near enough for me to believe that anything is definitively wrong


RE: Intel 's 45 nm & Nvidia SLI ?
By MightyAA on 12/31/2007 12:52:58 PM , Rating: 2
Purely just a guess, but I'd bet it'd have something to do with the new NVidia 8800M cards. I know they take a new motherboard to put them in. Nothing can upgrade to the card without the new mobo (unless you just bought a new machine with the new mobo). I'm not even sure who makes the board, but my prior version was a Intel Capell series in my Clevo. I've not yet heard of a sli solution with the 8800M cards or sli with an intel mobile cpu.. Sounds like a chipset compatibility issue between intel mobile cpu's and nvidia.


Apple?
By melgross on 12/30/2007 12:48:54 PM , Rating: 2
Though they (Apple) were left out, it's likely that they will be changing their lines of MacBooks and MacBook Pro's to Penyrn at their own show, Macworld, which is at the same time as CES.




RE: Apple?
By FreshPrince on 12/31/2007 9:45:25 AM , Rating: 2
Lattitude D640

penryn + 14.1 LED screen + 8800M GTX + bluray + SSD

let's go!


Intel T8300 graphics processor!!!
By nerdye on 12/30/2007 3:28:16 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The VAIO AR61ZU commands your attention with a T8300 graphics processor


Wow, a cpu graphics processor! LOL




By IvanAndreevich on 12/30/2007 8:50:43 PM , Rating: 2
I got an IBM T60 with a Core Duo 1.83 GHz. It's upgradeable to any Core 2 Duo mobile chip. How about one of these?




By widefault on 12/30/2007 10:32:18 PM , Rating: 2
You're limited to the first gen Core 2 Duos; T5200, T5300, T5500, T5600, T7200, T7400, and the T7600. Anything faster needs a newer chipset and a higher bus speed.


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