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Fuel cell will be able to power notebook for five hours on 5cc of methanol

Fuel cells are one of the most intriguing battery replacement technologies around and are one of the few that is already on the market. Today the fuel cell isn't a viable option for the consumer, but in the future charging your notebook computer could be a thing of the past.

Engadget reports that Panasonic is readying the first fuel cell that will fit into the battery compartment of a notebook computer to go on sale in 2012. The fuel cell reportedly could power your average laptop for five hours on 50cc of highly concentrated methanol. When you start to run low, all you would need to do is squirt some more methanol into the cell to keep working.

The only fuel cell available for consumers right now is the Medis Power Pack. It is far from powerful enough to run the average laptop and is really only suited to charging a cell phone or MP3 player. The Pentagon recently awarded a $1 million prize to the winner of a competition to produce a wearable power system weighing under eight pounds and capable of 96 hours of run time. The winning concept used a fuel cell and a rechargeable battery.

Automakers are keen on fuel cell technology as well with several big automakers working on fuel cell-powered cars right now. Honda is one of the carmakers and has its FCX fuel cell vehicles on the streets for testing already.

The biggest issue for fuel cell cars at this point is the lack of hydrogen fuel stations needed to make the vehicles viable across the country. So far, most carmakers are limiting the vehicles to use by customers in close proximity to a hydrogen fuel station in the southern California area.



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Banned from Airport
By vapore0n on 10/20/2008 11:52:38 AM , Rating: 2
I bet the first thing to happen is that these batteries will be banned from all public transportation systems, especially airplanes.

1 battery + lighter = fire inside plane.

And I dont see these as 1 use type batteries.




RE: Banned from Airport
By Aloonatic on 10/20/2008 11:58:16 AM , Rating: 5
lighter = fire inside plane? :-/


RE: Banned from Airport
By Tsuwamono on 10/20/2008 12:12:45 PM , Rating: 2
Aren't we on the ball today? I think someone ate their Cheerios.


RE: Banned from Airport
By WoWCow on 10/20/2008 12:19:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The fuel cell reportedly could power your average laptop for five hours on 50cc of highly concentrated methanol. When you start to run low, all you would need to do is squirt some more methanol into the cell to keep working.

Yeah, never mind the fact some overheating laptops might just go kaput like the blazing iPod batteries out there.

Also, with so many computer novices out there, would you trust them to refill the batteries with methanol? Just imagine the fumes inside a hot lecture hall... And the consequences of skin contact with methanol!


RE: Banned from Airport
By Ammohunt on 10/20/2008 1:44:53 PM , Rating: 2
I am sure it will be as easy as popping an old Methanol cartridge out and the a new one in. Not to mention people have been using refillable lighters for decades.


RE: Banned from Airport
By omnicronx on 10/20/2008 2:27:24 PM , Rating: 2
No doubt, I don't think anyone would release a solution in which you had to manually refill a battery with a liquid.

I also find it kind of funny that nobody pointed out that many lithium batteries already contain liquid. In fact I think all Li-SO2 lithium batteries do.

Merely having cartridges seems like a valid solution, and a bright idea.


RE: Banned from Airport
By omnicronx on 10/20/2008 2:28:36 PM , Rating: 2
er.. SOCl2 not Li-SO2


RE: Banned from Airport
By mindless1 on 10/21/2008 5:33:31 PM , Rating: 2
It seems like a terrible idea, because customers will either buy cartridges and still refill them, or have to buy individual cartridges pre-filled that cost quite a bit more than bulk methanol. 50cc of methanol is very inexpensive compared to the cost of a safe cartridge for it, I'd guess the cartridge would cost well over 10X as much.


RE: Banned from Airport
By geddarkstorm on 10/20/2008 2:15:49 PM , Rating: 3
I've never had any problems with skin contact and methanol, and I work with nearly pure stuff for making gel staining and destaining solutions. It evaporates too quick to be a problem if spilled on the skin. Now, if you stick your hand in a vat of methanol for awhile to give it time to soak in and get to your blood stream in sufficient quantities, then you might start having problems. But otherwise, it's a safe.

You're right in that the fumes could be troublesome, though, if there's enough of it in an unventilated space. Still, 50 milliliters (50cc) of the stuff even iterated over quite a number of students in a big lecture hall is not going to make any amount of fumes capable of causing problems - never mind the fact the lecture room is going to be heavily ventilated in the first place.


Doubt it will catch on.
By Innocent Hawk on 10/20/2008 11:52:28 AM , Rating: 2
I'd rather carry a power cable with my laptop.

With the amount I use my laptop I'd spend a fortune on Methanol every week just to keep charged.




RE: Doubt it will catch on.
By Lord 666 on 10/20/2008 11:54:16 AM , Rating: 1
Its interesting technology, but doubt the FAA will allow people to carry 50cc vials of methanol onboard.

Maybe if they make one that will work with urine ;)


RE: Doubt it will catch on.
By blowfish on 10/20/2008 12:10:39 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Its interesting technology, but doubt the FAA will allow people to carry 50cc vials of methanol onboard.


no but I bet the airlines would love to sell you 5ml miniatures at $10 a pop....


RE: Doubt it will catch on.
By Oregonian2 on 10/20/2008 1:54:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
With the amount I use my laptop I'd spend a fortune on Methanol every week just to keep charged.


What if it'd work with Bourbon or perhaps Midori so you had to carry a bottle around. Of course, just for your laptop mind you!


Is it 5cc's or is it 50cc's?
By dijuremo on 10/20/2008 12:21:28 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
TextFuel cell will be able to power notebook for five hours on 5cc of methanol


Later on:

quote:
The fuel cell reportedly could power your average laptop for five hours on 50cc of highly concentrated methanol.




RE: Is it 5cc's or is it 50cc's?
By Bateluer on 10/20/2008 1:11:22 PM , Rating: 1
Has to be 5cc, I would think. 50cc is quite a bit of liquid.


RE: Is it 5cc's or is it 50cc's?
By pattycake0147 on 10/20/2008 4:44:43 PM , Rating: 2
However, a battery compartment could still hold it so the I still wouldn't be sure. What is the original source to check the number?


RE: Is it 5cc's or is it 50cc's?
By AlexTRoopeR on 10/20/2008 6:56:22 PM , Rating: 2
The source (first link of the article) says 50cc for 5 hours . So title is wrong.


RE: Is it 5cc's or is it 50cc's?
By mindless1 on 10/21/2008 5:36:33 PM , Rating: 2
5cc would be impossible, no way it could power the laptop for the proposed interval.


Title vs Body
By ineedaname on 10/20/2008 12:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
The title states that it can run for 5 hours on 5cc whereas the body of the article says it needs 50cc. So which one is it?




By Guttersnipe on 10/20/2008 2:07:46 PM , Rating: 2
carrying a bottle around is easier than carrying a load of batteries. excluding flying of course.

the last ones they tried were all cartridge based..ridiculously expensive disposable systems.




Wait, what??
By Alias1431 on 10/20/2008 8:35:32 PM , Rating: 2
First exploding batteries, now this?!




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