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Developers are encouraged to join the program

A major part of the iPhone's success has been its industry-leading catalog of applications.  When Palm launched the Pre phone, which featured competitive hardware, the iPhone's App Store proved a major obstacle to Palm, which lacked a similarly diverse catalog.  At launch, only a handful of handpicked applications were available -- 18 in total (though one was an emulator for old Palm programs).

Now it has taken an important step forward in making its own App Store, opening its App Catalog e-commerce store to more third-party paid developers.  The new version of the store will officially launch in mid-September, replacing the current App Catalog, which despite its limited content has managed a million downloads.

Katie Mitic, senior vice president, Product Marketing, Palm, Inc. cheers, "We’re rolling out the submission process and e-commerce capabilities of the Palm App Catalog with careful consideration for both the developer and customer.  We want every part of the Palm webOS experience to be the best, and a strong e-commerce model is key to a thriving developer community, great apps and an excellent customer experience."

All the applications for the store will be written using the Mojo SDK to run on webOS.  Palm is launching a beta program to try to convince developers to jump onboard.  Revenue will follow a 70/30 (developer/Palm) split, identical to Apple's arrangement, minus sales tax.

Customers can buy apps on the store with Visa or MasterCard credit cards.  The new App Catalog will be fully available to customers in the U.S. this fall.  Now let's hope their application screening committee shows a bit more consistency than Apple's.


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Go Palm!
By Motoman on 8/18/09, Rating: 0
RE: Go Palm!
By T2k on 8/18/2009 2:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
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while I still can't approve of their attempts to hack


They did not HACK anything - it's perfectly LEGAL and...

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themselves into proprietary Apple services,


There's nothing proprietary about USB transfer, stop with the Kool-Aid , please.

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with any luck they have learned from Apple's perfectly-legal-yet-wildly-unpopular shenanigans with their App Store, and won't do the same things that consumers view as offensive.


Most of Apple's practices are [b]clearly illegal - their marketshare is far and beyond anyone else; M$ got their @sses burned for less (IE anyone?) already.

The problem is that US legislators thus laws and courts always serve the highest bidder, period.

Palm uses a perfectly legal, correct, free method to stick an umbrella into Apple's rectum... go Palm, open the ubmrella now! :D


RE: Go Palm!
By Motoman on 8/18/2009 2:18:30 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the laughable fails.

Apple did not publish an API, SDK, or any other way for any 3rd party to access and use the Synch function of iTunes. Palm hacked into the system, and went so far as to make their device masquerade as an iPhone to fool the system. Whether or not that's legal I'll leave to the lawyers (I can't believe that it would stand up in a court of law), it most certainly is a hack. It is the very definition of a hack, and that is an irrefutable fact that cannot be disputed.

As for your second point...thanks for totally missing the point. The issue has not the slightest to do with whether the actual transfer mechanism was via USB, Bluetooth, serial port, or abacus. It has to do with the fact that the iTunes functionality in terms of it's integration with Apple hardware is, in indisputable fact, proprietary. You might want to go refer to a dictionary if you don't understand multi-syllabic words like that.

None of Apple's actions have been illegal, at least not in regard to what they're doing with the iTunes functionality in this case. That is an indisputable fact...which is to say, feel free to dispute such a fact all you want - at the expense of labeling yourself an utter idiot without the slightest understanding of the issues at hand. Marketshare has no bearing whatsoever on this either...and as can be easily demonstrated, it is fundamentally impossible for anyone, ever, to have a monopoly position in a pure-commodity market - which is what the .mp3 market is. Hence, Apple cannot, in this market, ever be in the same position Microsoft was as a monopolist and therefore subject to legal smackdown.

Consult a lawyer before you respond. Or even a knowledgable businessman...or a professor, or someone who has a clue what they are talking about. Because you, most clearly, do not.


RE: Go Palm!
By adiposity on 8/18/2009 2:37:28 PM , Rating: 2
Hack != emulation

By your definition all PC BIOSes are a hack.

-Dan


RE: Go Palm!
By Motoman on 8/18/2009 2:42:58 PM , Rating: 1
They weren't emulating anything. They hacked into a proprietary Apple service and used a false device ID to trick the system. Apple does not expose that service for 3rd parties to integrate with in any way. Palm did not seek or get permission to attempt to integrate. They just reverse-engineered their way in, using a fraudulent device ID.

That is a hack, pure and simple. What other possible definition of "hack" do you think you could come up with?


RE: Go Palm!
By T2k on 8/18/2009 6:00:54 PM , Rating: 2
I'm always amazed by loudmouthed yet clueless wannabees (or Macalots, same thing) like you - have you ever heard of USBID?Vendor ID ?
Based on your nonsensical posts I highly doubt it.
Read and get educated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus

FYI emulation is a STANDARD method in this industry.

I'm asking you again to stop spreading the stupid "hack" Kool-Aid and your false info, please.


RE: Go Palm!
By Motoman on 8/18/2009 7:43:43 PM , Rating: 1
Well, thank you for formally identifying yourself as fundamentally cognitively incapable. You are so far off in left field you can't even see the stands anymore.

There is not the slightest point in discussing anything with you any further. You haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about, not a single one of your points is even vaguely accurate, and your vitriol is going to get you nowhere. Good day.


RE: Go Palm!
By T2k on 8/18/2009 6:10:13 PM , Rating: 2
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They hacked into a proprietary Apple service and used a false device ID to trick the system.


Priceless. :D

USB IDs, "hacked" as "proprietary Apple service" - truly priceless. :D

And all this from someone who typed up a mile-long nonsense
like

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Apple did not publish an API, SDK, or any other way for any 3rd party to access and use the Synch function of iTunes. Palm hacked into the system,


Not even the slightest clue about they way this "proprietary" iTunes "Synch" "function" works... :D

...but it gets better at the end:

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...Consult a lawyer before you respond. Or even a knowledgable businessman...or a professor, or someone who has a clue what they are talking about. Because you, most clearly, do not.


Priceless, truly genius!

You GOTTA LOVE the internet and all the BS here... :)


RE: Go Palm!
By Motoman on 8/18/2009 7:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
...see the post I left you just above here. Here's your sign.


Too little, too late...
By T2k on 8/18/2009 11:31:58 AM , Rating: 1
...and that's a very nice way to put it - Palm has engineered some very nice OS, a fairly decent phone and an ugly PoS SDK which they did not even bother to release until it's got leaked , let alone the total lack of available applications for the launch.

In short: another Folio-like Palm managerial royal fukcup in the works , period.

Too bad, it's a very nice platform from a user PoV - the totally incompetent leadership of Palm managed to screw everything up again, most likely this time for good as this was their very last chance...




RE: Too little, too late...
By taber on 8/18/2009 1:53:34 PM , Rating: 3
What is so bad about the sdk? I'm impressed they made it cross platform and the eclipse plugins work nicely. Sure the html and javascript limit 3d apps right now, but that's about it. On top of all that, I'm impressed it's rolling out so fast.

Yes, I own a Pre (typing on it), but I've akso used the mojo sdk.


RE: Too little, too late...
By gereth86 on 8/18/2009 2:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
I don't understand how this is "too little, too late". Apple didn't even have an app store, let alone a single third party application, for over a year from their release. The fact that Palm had an app store with third party apps on release of the device is pretty amazing, and releasing an SDK in a matter of months, along with their e-commerce system, has put them far far ahead of where Apple was in the iPhone's lifecycle.

In fact, if I remember correctly, it was about this point in the iPhone's lifecycle that Apple did massive pricecuts ($600 down to $200 in 3 months?) and even felt obligated to give back some money to those who paid $600 and adopted the device early.

The Pre blows the iPhone out of the water in terms of functionality, especially considering how this is their first generation compared to Apple's 3 generations of fine tuning and OS upgrades. And they are on practically the exact same hardware.


RE: Too little, too late...
By T2k on 8/18/2009 6:02:41 PM , Rating: 2
Have you seen Palm's numbers lately? And the craptastic 3GS sales numbers and Apple's numbers lately?

Now you understand how is it too little, too late...?


RE: Too little, too late...
By rudy on 8/18/2009 8:13:34 PM , Rating: 2
Because apple already has it. Honestly every company knew an iPhone was coming years ahead of time Remember the law suit apple went for to try to steal the iphone tm from cisco? Who would have guessed it would be anything other then an ipod that works as a phone?

What did other companies do? Nothing. And so they got burned. Now the game has changed since everyone else is behind they cannot be as relaxed as apple if they want to catch up. They must move much faster and they will be held to a higher standard. That is the way the competition works.


RE: Too little, too late...
By grath on 8/19/2009 12:31:51 AM , Rating: 2
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What did other companies do? Nothing. And so they got burned.


Who else was in a position to bring high end smartphones into the mainstream? The technology was there, but Palm or Blackberry or whoever, lacking the Reality Distortion Field, would have been unable to generate the kind of instant critical mass of demand that Apple knew it could rely upon.

Wielding this known quantity, Apple could act with a confidence that others could not, telling suppliers to start producing high end components in quantities usually ordered for basic phones, dictating terms and exclusivity to carriers, and maximizing the subsidization of the device.

By doing so, they have accelerated both the supply side of the smartphone industry and the increasing adoption of more capable devices. This should be to everybodys benefit, and without someone like Apple to break the smartphone out of a niche market, we might not be concerning ourselves with such things as "App Stores" until years from now and that new Palm would be a couple hundred bucks more.

Disclosure: iPhone owner, yet still an ardent PC user. The Reality Distortion Field has only limited effect on us who bother to pay attention to reality sometimes


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Too little, too late...
By T2k on 8/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Too little, too late...
By acase on 8/18/2009 11:55:45 AM , Rating: 5
< b></b > ftw


RE: Too little, too late...
By JosefTor on 8/18/2009 12:52:30 PM , Rating: 3
Apple took a while to get their store and everything going for their store as well. For such a small company as Palm to come up with a phone that almost rivals the iPhone, release software updates, fix manufacturing defects (something Microsoft doesn't even do), release the SDK, and have their pay for download app store almost up within a few months is one VERY impressive feat. You should be more supportive of competition... without Palm and Sprint the cellular world would be a little less bright.


RE: Too little, too late...
By T2k on 8/18/2009 1:55:35 PM , Rating: 2
I do support it moreover I really like the WebOS - but nobody cares if Palm is a small company or how much we like it when it can't survive on its own.
Apple is big, Google is big, Nokia is big, even Sony Ericsson is big compared to Palm so when they (Palm's leadership) decided to take on this journey they knew what they are up to.
And once again, just like with Folio, they fcuked up everything royally, this time by rushing out this unit way too early (let alone giving it to Spring but it's another weird story.)

Had Palm released Pre around now they would have beaten the 3GS craze and had time to build a decent app store.

So far for me it's the same awfully incompetent-amateur-loser management style I saw at their last (failed-canceled) product launch with Folio, sorry.


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