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Verizon gets webOS devices

While this isn't exactly news to anyone that follows the mobile industry, Palm announced today what has been known for some time -- Verizon will be receiving PalmOS devices this year. Starting January 25, Verizon will begin offering the Palm Pre Plus and the Palm Pixi Plus.

The added "Plus" comes from the fact that the Pre Plus now features 16GB of internal memory (up from 8GB on the original model; 15GB of which is user accessible) and a Palm Touchstone battery cover which was previously an optional accessory. The Palm Pixi Plus, on the other hand, bring Wi-Fi to the table -- a feature that wasn't available on the original Palm Pixi.

“The Palm experience is all about helping our customers stay connected so they never miss a thing,” said Palm CEO Jon Rubinstein. “We’re constantly enriching this experience with new features and innovations.  The Verizon Wireless launch of Pre Plus and Pixi Plus is the next phase in delivering this unique Palm experience to more people.”

Another new addition offered up by Palm today is the new Palm Mobile Hotspot webOS app. The app, which is available from the Palm App Catalog, allows Verizon customers to share their 3G connection with up to five other Wi-Fi enabled devices.

The addition of two webOS devices to Verizon's network brings a well-balanced smartphone portfolio to Verizon's network. The company already has two competent Android-based smartphones with the Motorola Droid and the Droid Eris. The wireless company will also be getting its own CDMA version of Google's Nexus One in the spring. And if all of the planets align, Verizon could possibly land a fourth generation iPhone which would make its smartphone lineup a force to be reckoned with.

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What about sprint?
By Jabroney701020 on 1/7/2010 4:36:13 PM , Rating: 2
Is Sprint going to get the same upgraded Pre and Pixi that Verizon is getting? I'm trying really hard to want to stay with Sprint but if they don't get the updated version I can no longer justify in my mind staying with them.

RE: What about sprint?
By agent2099 on 1/7/2010 5:17:03 PM , Rating: 5
Saving $20-$30 a month over a comparable Verizon plan isn't enough?

RE: What about sprint?
By Ytsejamer1 on 1/8/2010 10:10:54 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I'm on Sprint and haven't had any problems with them or their support. I had the Palm Pre for a couple of weeks and went through two of them. The device and WebOS was really really slick, and easy to use...but the device sucked...kept locking up. I'm now on the Hero and it works great.

But as for Verizon's plan...they are a rip compared to Sprint. Just for a basic 450 month plan with text and limited data, was $99! Sprint's is $69.

RE: What about sprint?
By steven975 on 1/8/2010 12:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, but they don't offer that for the Pre.

I tried, but they said no unless you went for one of the $90 simply everything plan.

Now I'm on Verizon...not too happy about the $89 plan though. Sprint wouldn't even let me buy a Pre straight-up without changing my plan.

RE: What about sprint?
By bugsbunny651 on 1/7/2010 9:19:30 PM , Rating: 2
You must be out of your mind. Why would Sprint get an upgrade for the incentives that Pre has offered to Verizon to accept the Palms?

RE: What about sprint?
By chruschef on 1/8/2010 12:29:30 AM , Rating: 1
uhh, correct me if i'm wrong but..

you've got that backwards, verizon has to pay companies to make CDMA versions of their phones to sell on their network. most networks have moved onto GSM.

RE: What about sprint?
By bigboxes on 1/8/2010 1:02:22 AM , Rating: 3
Uhh, you are wrong. Sprint is on CDMA.

And just because GSM is dominant in Europe doesn't make it better. Try not being such a fanboy. You know the type. If you have a product it must be better.

RE: What about sprint?
By Penti on 1/8/2010 1:24:06 AM , Rating: 2
Plenty of countries have CDMA networks, but most don't run the 2000MHz frequency/band. GSM has nothing to do with it, WCDMA2100 is a whole different technology based on CDMA... (Instead of TDMA as GSM uses.) Normally you know it by UMTS/3G though. GSM/EDGE would be horrible to use.

RE: What about sprint?
By Omega215D on 1/8/2010 3:06:20 AM , Rating: 2
No, the US runs on 1900/ 800/ 850 MHz CDMA bands. I think it is Asia that runs on 2GHz +. Meanwhile there are 450MHz CDMA bands popping up in South America along with GSM. Both CDMA and GSM have their strengths and weaknesses but CDMA does have the upper hand in call volume per cell tower along with clarity (GSM being time divided cannot handle as much volume per cell).

WCDMA and UMTS are related while EDGE and EVDO are not. Hopefully the move to LTE can unify the data side of cell phones and maybe all CDMA phones will have GSM bands for overseas use as well.

*I have had and used all the MAJOR carriers available in the US and all at once at one point.

RE: What about sprint?
By KING1986 on 1/8/10, Rating: -1
By 3minence on 1/7/2010 4:00:07 PM , Rating: 2
Verizon and it's customers get a good product that has 6 months of field testing and updates courtesy of Sprint users. I am really thinking of the Pixi plus to replace my Treo 650.

RE: win-win!
By Chadder007 on 1/7/2010 6:46:36 PM , Rating: 2
Have they fixed the plastic on them to where it doesn't feel like its going to cut you? The only problem I had with it was the cheap feel and sharp plastic edge when opened up.

RE: win-win!
By zerocool84 on 1/7/2010 8:16:24 PM , Rating: 2
In the Engadget hands on video they said it felt better than the original, the sliding mechanism was better, and the keyboard felt better. It's pretty much improved all around which is good. Sucks that there's no release timeframe for when Sprint is getting these.

RE: win-win!
By Jeffk464 on 1/7/2010 6:46:33 PM , Rating: 2
I have a dumb verizon phone and a seperate 3g usb modem for my laptop. I kind of like the idea of combining the two devices on one smartphone. Any idea if they are going to keep the 5 gigabyte monthly limit? I also kind of prefer the idea of google's driod operating system, I know palm's is suppose to be good, but I feel driod is going to dominate.

RE: win-win!
By FITCamaro on 1/8/2010 11:27:24 AM , Rating: 2
Verizon advertises unlimited but when you press them they admit to the 5GB data limit. However I will say that I have yet to even use over 1GB of data on my Droid.

Also, given that the literature nowhere even mentions the 5GB cap, I think Verizon will have a hard time charging customers for going over the 5GB. When I got my Droid I read all the terms for Verizon and couldn't find anything on the 5GB limit. However from this site I knew of it and asked about it. They refused to admit it existed at first (Verizon store employees) but when I pressed them they finally caved.

RE: win-win!
By Jeffk464 on 1/8/2010 7:57:24 PM , Rating: 2
I use verizon's 3g exclusively for my internet, so I'm always up against the 5gig cap.

RE: win-win!
By rudy on 1/11/2010 3:21:35 AM , Rating: 2
I think you will be correct, the problem with apple and palm is that they make their OS for their phones. Just like in the computer and internet industry eventually the whole unifies hardware and software will get displaced by better companies that are willing to work with anyone. Right now android seems most poised to do that but windows mobile could make a come back and their is always some symbian or other linux clone.

RE: win-win!
By bugsbunny651 on 1/7/10, Rating: -1
RE: win-win!
By bplewis24 on 1/8/2010 8:29:28 AM , Rating: 2
Keep telling yourself that ;)

Need to stop reading these
By djc208 on 1/8/2010 11:11:11 AM , Rating: 2
But still no non-camera versions. I'm getting tired of seeing all these cool new phones when I can't have any of them. Guess I'll just have to keep my little Sanyo SCP-7050 forever.

The only non-camera smart phones I can find are one or two options from Blackberry, and both cost as much or more as a Pre/Pixi or one of the Android phones.

RE: Need to stop reading these
By FITCamaro on 1/8/2010 11:29:38 AM , Rating: 2
Do you not want a camera due to your job? I agree that it can be annoying for anyone who works in a secure environment. At my office we're technically not supposed to bring cameras in. But given that we do not work on much that requires a clearance, our top boss in charge of our location lets us bring in our phones.

RE: Need to stop reading these
By djc208 on 1/8/2010 1:32:06 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not ALLOWED to have a camera phone at my job. I'm not even allowed to bring it through the gate and leave it in my car, let alone into my office. If security finds you with one they confiscate it and destroy it.

So if I got one I'd have to leave it at home while I'm at work, which is the one place I'm out of the house at most. At home I have broadband and real computers, I don't need a fancy internet enabled phone. Nor would I want to deal with a second line just so I could have one phone at work and another everywhere else.

By Mojo the Monkey on 1/7/2010 4:08:01 PM , Rating: 3
A carrier is finally adopting an idea that has been floating around and touted as one of the main reasons to hack/root/jailbreak various phones. Hats off for bringing this to the public.

I would seriously consider these phones for this ability alone... if my contract were not 10 more months from termination. I have so many other wifi enabled devices that are basically useless outside of my own home.

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