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Touchstone charger
Palm introduces new pre smartphone

Palm today held a special event to announce its answer to Apple’s popular iPhone and finally bring the company into the modern era of smartphones. Palm is starting with a blank slate thanks to a new operating system and a new smartphone which aims to please.

Palm started off with a new way of thinking -- as Palm Executive Chairman Ron Rubinstein stated, “Mobile is in our DNA.” Palm’s new efforts don’t revolve around the desktop as a tethering device or “home base” -- instead, Palm is looking to connect to the “cloud” of information online. Palm hopes to achieve this with its brand new webOS operating system. According to Rubinstein, anyone who can program for HTML, CSS, or JavaScript will feel right at home with webOS. The purpose of the webOS is to focus on “Your People, Your Time, and Your Critical Information”.

Tying Palm’s new philosophy to mobile telephony and the new webOS together is the new Palm pre phone. Palm’s 4.8-ounce pre aims to right the wrongs of its competitors while at the same time adding a few new twists of its own. The pre features EvDO Rev A, Stereo Bluetooth (a feature oft-requested from iPhone owners), 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, GPS, a fast OMAP processor, accelerometer, 3.0MP camera with an LED flash, and 8GB of internal storage.

The device features a 3.1” display with a 320x480 screen resolution. It also has a single, center button at the bottom of the device and a Gesture Area which provides direct access to the OS. Instead of a proprietary dock connector, the pre uses a microUSB connector located on the right side of the device and can be used as a USB Mass Storage Device. At the top of the device is a power button, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a ringer switch.

Palm’s Matias Duarte took more than a few jabs at the feature set of the iPhone and talked about how no one wants to use a finicky onscreen keyboard. Duarte then went on to show the pre’s keyboard which slides out from the bottom of the device. Duarte also pointed to a feature that was implemented by “popular request”: a removable battery. And speaking of the battery, the pre is charged using an innovative wireless “Touchstone” charging dock. You simply place the dock on your desk, plug it into the wall, then place your pre on top of the dock. The device is held in place thanks to magnets built into the dock – there is no need to plug the pre directly into in an AC adapter.

Martias also went into great detail about the webOS and the numerous gesture-based commands available on the pre. I cannot possibly cover every single feature in this space, but here are a few highlights:

  • The pre can have multiple applications open at once
  • The pre uses a "cards" system which shows open applications and allows you to flick through them using your finger
  • Bringing up the four traditional Palm application icons is done by placing your finger on the Gesture Areas and flicking up. This gives you access to what were once "hard buttons" on older Palm devices.
  • The OS supports Universal Search
  • Contact information can be pooled into a single place from multiple places (i.e., Gmail, Facebook)
  • The pre can be used in portrait or landscape mode -- the cards orient themselves automatically on device position  

Sprint will be a launch partner for the pre. The pre will be available the first half of 2009 exclusively from Sprint. Pricing is not available at this time.



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How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Targon on 1/8/2009 3:32:20 PM , Rating: 4
Ok, I will probably be modded down for this, but Sprint is probably the worst choice of launch partners, simply because they are in third place behind AT&T and Verizon. If it were up to me, I would have picked AT&T since by going GSM, the phone would also very easily be released in Europe without a carrier tied to it.

I guess Sprint paid some good money for this one...




RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Mitch101 on 1/8/2009 3:48:54 PM , Rating: 4
Like if Taco Bell is promoting a kids movie you know its not good.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By dj LiTh on 1/8/2009 7:22:55 PM , Rating: 4
Hey hey, hey, hey hey hey! You leave taco bell out of this!


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By heffeque on 1/8/2009 9:54:47 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah... Taco Bell "me tiene hasta los webOS".


By Gul Westfale on 1/8/2009 10:47:26 PM , Rating: 2
so... if i buy a palm i get diarrhea?

:)


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By elessar1 on 1/9/2009 6:15:17 AM , Rating: 3
Seriously, i can see that Palm gives "webOS" about spanish comunity... :P

Imagine, two mexicans talking:
M1: Hi this is my new cellphone
M2: wich OS does it use?
M1: webOS (nuts, balls)
M2: <kills M1>

cheers...


By heffeque on 1/9/2009 8:06:44 PM , Rating: 2
Next OS Palm is going to offer is going to be Palm Pene (Palm Penis), just for the laughs I guess xD


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By mcnabney on 1/8/2009 4:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
You are quite right.

Palm is drowning and this device is their last chance to regain any marketshare.

And what provider do they restrict themselves to?

Bloody Sprint?!?!?!

The home of the worst network and customer service to be found in the United States!

Palm has tied their hopes to the biggest sinking boat-anchor in US telecom. Nice knowing you Palm.....


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Dreifort on 1/8/09, Rating: 0
RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Dreifort on 1/9/2009 8:59:12 AM , Rating: 2
with bad 4Q earnings, rumors are flying about a Sprint merger with T-Mobile or takeover by AT&T.

Alltel & Verizon have already begun the process of becoming one.


By mcnabney on 1/9/2009 12:01:50 PM , Rating: 3
Will not happen.

A CDMA company is just not going to be bought by a GSM company. The idiot idea of CDMA Sprint buying iDEN Nextel is the source of many of their problems.

Sprint could be bought by another industry player (Comcast?) Also, Deutsche Telecom (T-Mobile) is likely looking for a buyer for their US assets. Now AT&T might buy T-Mobile, which if approved could lead to Verizon buying Sprint. But do you really want just two wireless companies?


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By cocoviper on 1/8/2009 6:35:50 PM , Rating: 5
You might want to update some of your stances sir

Worst Network? Gizmodo recently evaluated all 4 carriers 3G data networks and Sprint came in first place. http://gizmodo.com/5111989/the-definitive-coast+to...

Worst Customer Service? All the key metrics have shown Sprint climbing the customer service charts rapidly and taking first in several categories. http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/20/sprints-csr-res...

Sprint also scored as the highest telecom carrier in the recent CIO Insight Vendor Value survey http://internet.ziffdavisenterprise.com/CIOI_Downl...

Considering Sprint stuck with Palm through thick and thin with ATT and Verizon giving them the snub- it makes total sense to launch on Sprint.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By UNCjigga on 1/8/2009 7:18:21 PM , Rating: 3
Sprint and Verizon use the exact same tech, but you want to know why Sprint came first? Because they have fewer subscribers, they have relaxed QoS restrictions on individual bandwidth. Verizon is very stringent, which is why they actually lowball the quoted EVDO Rev. A data speeds. I'd like to see which markets they tested in. All I know is that I can breeze along on the Amtrak Acela at 130mph and watch a full movie on Netflix/Hulu between NYC and DC.


By UNCjigga on 1/8/2009 7:20:55 PM , Rating: 3
(My laptop has embedded 3G from Verizon)


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By djkrypplephite on 1/9/2009 2:40:16 AM , Rating: 2
Everybody rips on Sprint for being so bad, but you know what? I got the $99 everything plan (which is the best out of all the carriers that I have seen), along with a Palm Centro, and I am extremely happy with it. I have never had to call customer service about anything, and when I do talk to anyone from the company, I don't have any problems whatsoever with them.

Say what you want about them if you have AT&T, but honestly, I really like them as my provider. They gave me a good phone, awesome plan, and hell, I get free NFL network, so when I go to my drill center on weekends, I get to watch games in our downtime.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Targon on 1/9/2009 7:33:27 AM , Rating: 2
Yea, Sprint isn't bad, when you are in an area with decent coverage. You go to a more rural area, and you will discover that Sprint is horrible, just because there are so many holes in their coverage.

Now, AT&T and Verizon also have their holes, but there are far fewer holes in the coverage map compared to Sprint. To be fair though, T-mobile is MUCH worse than Sprint when it comes to rural area coverage.

It still comes down to my not being able to use Sprint where I live because there are so many holes in their coverage here(the South Fork of Long Island, NY) that I need to avoid them. The sad thing is that Sprint was chosen at one point for certain emergency services, and it made it difficult to get in touch with people as a result.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By RamarC on 1/9/2009 9:12:40 AM , Rating: 2
sprint has free roaming so being out of their service area is not really an issue. the only problem is if there's a weak sprint signal, the phone won't roam.

and their coverage has stabilized and increased tremendously in the past 3 years. rural southern west virginia, western virginia, and eastern tennessee used to be cellular blackholes but now sprint is the only major carrier with full coverage in those areas.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By TheSpaniard on 1/9/2009 12:03:57 PM , Rating: 2
I have had free roaming w/ att for a while now


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Totally on 1/10/2009 2:20:08 AM , Rating: 2
...Aannnnnnd your point? I could wait, I'd just like to hear it that's all.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By Bender 123 on 1/9/2009 9:24:23 AM , Rating: 3
I agree. A year and a half ago, it was awful...Now, when I do call, I get a real English speaking person. One rep was working and the issue and shock of shocks! HAD A PERSONALITY AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT OTHER THINGS WHILE SHE WORKED!

They have upgraded coverage of 3G, even to Central/Northern Wisconsin. And anybody who likes Verizon will do fine on Sprint and Vice Versa, because they have network reciprocity.

I am slowly becoming a Sprint fan. They now have, for me, the best data, price, and customer service in the industry and the call area is moot due to being able to piggyback Verizon, when needed.

They have me for another 2 years when the Pre comes out.


By mcnabney on 1/9/2009 12:20:15 PM , Rating: 2
The recent telecom edition of Consumer Reports said it all about Sprint. They suck at everything, except price. They may have a 3G network, but it is poorly designed (non-seamless coverage), frequent glitches in hardware (poor maintenance and inadequate testing), and the worst customer service in the industry. Their disaster coverage is non-existent.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By scavio on 1/8/2009 4:40:09 PM , Rating: 4
Or maybe they should have lauched with T-Mobile like Google did, eh (fourth place)? They managed to sell a few million Centros with Sprint as it's launch partner so it can't be all bad.


By mcnabney on 1/8/2009 5:07:30 PM , Rating: 2
Having a carrier restricted launch gets a manufacture a special fee or special pricing. Companies that are otherwise solid (like RIM or Apple) can do these things. But Palm needs to sell a lot of devices, and quickly at that. They needed to launch this new device, the first premium Palm since the Treo700s, at every major carrier.
The G1 was practically a beta-test and it appealed to the cheap - so T-mobile and their barely-3G network kind-of made sense.


RE: How to lose sales, pick Sprint
By BillyBatson on 1/8/2009 5:48:57 PM , Rating: 2
Sprint has been a long standing partner with Palm and many of Palms initial releases have been with Sprint before versions for other carriers arrived.
I was with sprint for 6 years up until 2 months ago and owned 2 different Treo models in the last 2 years. I am now with AT&T only for the iphone but I miss my Sprint service over AT&T which was superior in every way other than quality phone options.
Though this phone will most likely not live up to the hype just as the BB Storm didn't I can't help but hope a real iphone killer is eventually released for a proper carrier such as Sprint or Verizon so I can switch back.


By Rodney McNaggerton on 1/9/2009 12:36:20 AM , Rating: 3
You should read the ars article on this, it really covers the new UI much better. The new UI system sounds elegant and well thought out, and I think it could definitely be a hit.

Dailytech really doesn't do this new phone justice.

Arstechnica:
quote:
Task-based, not app-based
By ditching the app + window paradigm (which the iPhone still essentially uses) in favor of a card paradigm, Palm was able to invent a truly task-based interface that lets you use the interface to do things, instead of using apps to do things. Let me give an example. Instead of having multiple communications apps on the phone, any of which you can use to carry on a conversation via multiple services, you just open up a single chat card with that user. That chat card hosts a continuous stream of conversation that combines SMS messages and IM in a single, seamless interface and chat experience. That way, the focus is on the conversation, and not the medium (SMS, Gtalk, iChat, AIM, etc.). It's very nice, in an "I want to be able to do that right now on my iPhone" kind of way. Palm has saddled this fantastic approach with an overused buzzword-turned-name: synergy. But, in light of how compelling both the idea and the implementation seem to be (at least based on this staged demo), the annoying name is a minor issue.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090108-micr...


By retrospooty on 1/9/2009 9:24:14 AM , Rating: 2
You said it... Sprint paid good money... Or Verizon and ATT dont much trust Palm to put out a product anymore... either way, unlike apple, Palm does not sign exclusivity contracts, so flash forward several months and you will see it available on all major carriers.


By clovell on 1/9/2009 12:41:38 PM , Rating: 2
I won't mod you down, but I will disagree a bit. Launching with another partner would have put the Pre in direct competition with the iPhone and the Storm.

The advantage it has with Sprint is that it has no blockbuster competition within Sprint (no, the BlackJack doesn't count).

Now, let's try something - raise your hand if you like paying to use all your smartphone features a la carte. Not too many people I know do. Sprint's 'everything' plans are an awesome concept. Imagine never having to argue with some sawed-off college dropout at the AT&T outlet again, or calling to figure out a charge. One fee, that's all.

The Pre builds a synergy with Sprint's plans. I think it will do well.


WOW!
By Smilin on 1/8/09, Rating: 0
RE: WOW!
By Smilin on 1/8/2009 4:30:06 PM , Rating: 2
If you Palm zealots mod me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!


RE: WOW!
By HelToupee on 1/8/2009 4:49:21 PM , Rating: 2
RTFANOOB!!! They were demoing a working device at the keynote: http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/live-from-palms... In fact, they're about to get a meet-n-greet with the device: http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/palm-pre-first-... .

I'm no Palm fanboy, but at least their hardware has the current featureset -- which was always Palm's weakness -- old, slow, boring hardware. There's still alot that can go wrong - the UI could be flawed, Sprint could crap all over it, no mention of PalmAppStore(tm) yet. They don't have all their bases covered yet - but it looks like they're capable of playing with the big boys again.


RE: WOW!
By Black69ta on 1/8/2009 6:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
What is exciting about the palm spec.

Here is the Touch Pro specs:

640 x 480 2.8" Screen!
Port or Land Mode!
Audio Output w/ adapter!
802.11b/g WiFi
GPS!
Accelerometer!
microSD Card Slot! (unlimited Storage)
Slide out QWERTY keyboard!
Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR!
Primary Camera 3.1MP!
Secondary Camera 0.3MP!

0.3" smaller Screen but other than that is has the same or better specs and it is already out and it runs Windows Mobile 6.1 (While maybe not the best OS, I think it will be the most widely supported OS for years yo come.)


RE: WOW!
By v3rt1g0 on 1/8/2009 7:11:05 PM , Rating: 3
Dear Sir,

I regretfully inform you that your sarcasm detector is broken.

Regards.


RE: WOW!
By UNCjigga on 1/8/2009 7:14:52 PM , Rating: 1
You forgot to mention the Touch Pro FAILS because at it's core is a 3-year old OS (WinMo 6.1, built on top of WinMo 6, built on top of WinMo 5....)


RE: WOW!
By retrospooty on 1/9/2009 9:26:02 AM , Rating: 2
Yup... and all Winmobile OS are gutwrenchingly aweful.


RE: WOW!
By Totally on 1/10/2009 2:33:19 AM , Rating: 2
Hey! Hey! Hey now, let's keep things civil. This is palm glorious return lets keep it on topic.

<cuddles Touch Pro> I don't care what those mean people say about you, your still my baby </cuddles>


RE: WOW!
By Targon on 1/9/2009 8:05:11 AM , Rating: 2
Specifications are what cause so many people to be disappointed with many devices out there. The issue isn't about the specs, it is about the user interface.

The specs on the iPhone are not all that fantastic if you just look at them, people are more into how you USE the thing. The same applies here, how you use the Palm Pre(or whatever they call the AT&T or Verizon version) is what has many people excited.

Then you have to look at the OS as well. Is it fast and responsive? How about multi-tasking and stability? On paper it may look good, but if your phone crashes, have you lost your data? What about the quality of cell phone service, including things like speakerphone and how good the speaker/microphone are?

If you are willing to post on a DT article, you should know that the specs on paper for ANY device often sound a lot better than the product performs. You could see devices that on paper can handle 3TB/second bandwidth, yet can't keep up with 3MB/second rated devices.

You also need to look at how far Palm has come, not how long it has taken to get there. Palm was the leader a long time ago, but lost their lead. If they can even get back to the point of making truly competitive products again that are not just a niche product, they deserve credit for FINALLY getting back on track.

The lack of a SD card slot may very well be fixed by the time the product comes to market(remember it isn't available yet), or when an AT&T or Verizon version come out.

I personally HATE the feel of Windows Mobile, and the stability of the OS is far from great. It will take a while before we know how stable WebOS is, but if it is Linux based, it SHOULD be far more stable.


RE: WOW!
By Smilin on 1/9/2009 9:16:55 AM , Rating: 2
Blast you palm zealots... you want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Seriously it's nifty and all but it's seriously not that innovative considering every feature it has is already available and in some cases has been for years.

I can't believe you little worms modded me into oblivion. /sigh.


The New Aquaman
By Mitch101 on 1/8/2009 3:39:31 PM , Rating: 2
Palm seems like the Aquaman of superheroes. /sarcasm off

I wanted to be surprised but found myself feeling very ho hum about this. Maybe its something you need to see in person to appreciate?




RE: The New Aquaman
By Targon on 1/8/2009 3:48:33 PM , Rating: 2
When you talk about the user interface(UI) on a device, it is all about how to use it, not what it looks like. I think a big factor in the "wow" department is how quickly it works.

Keep in mind that the old PalmOS had a GREAT UI, but it was slow and the OS would tend to crash, so you are looking at two big changes, the OS, and the UI.

Many people out there still love the old PalmOS, not because of the speed or features, but because it was easy to use and the applications make sense(for the most part). If the new UI is as good as the reaction implies, and the OS is fast, Palm will have a winner on it's hands, at least once a version for AT&T and Verizon are made available.


RE: The New Aquaman
By Mitch101 on 1/8/2009 3:56:26 PM , Rating: 2
I had 2 generations of palm devices. One that did good and the second that lost data. For simplicity it was ahead of its time. But I just didn't find anything exciting about this. Seems like its all been done before. I would like to see it in person but since its sprint I may not until Verizon gets one. Sprint kind of kills it because I know the basic function of this being a phone will bite. Maybe its the Sprint part that got me on a downer and killed off everything else.


RE: The New Aquaman
By Targon on 1/9/2009 8:35:22 AM , Rating: 2
I feel the same way about Sprint being the launch partner on this one, but don't get down on the phone for that one. In time(hopefully by November 2009) we will see new versions for AT&T and Verizon.

I am honestly looking forward to this phone being available, not for myself, but so Palm can work the kinks out before releasing it for the other carriers.


RE: The New Aquaman
By foolsgambit11 on 1/9/2009 7:45:13 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why everybody's so anti-Sprint. I hear their customer service sucks. I wouldn't know. I haven't had to talk to them in the 8 years I've been with them. I've had them in rural Texas and rural Georgia, and been satisfied in both locations, as well as when I've traveled across country, and up and down both east and west coats. I don't know about data speeds, since I don't really use that. Nor am I on a 3G phone, so I can't speak to 3G coverage.

The fact that I'm not currently held to a contract with them is the one thing that would give me pause when considering upgrading to this phone with a data plan.


HVGA, Still?
By v3rt1g0 on 1/8/2009 7:07:22 PM , Rating: 2
> 320x480 screen resolution

Include a 640x480 VGA screen minimum, or you've already failed.
My FOUR YEAR OLD Axim x50v has a VGA screen, as do several of the new smartphones. Get with it Palm.




RE: HVGA, Still?
By Devo2007 on 1/8/2009 7:28:24 PM , Rating: 2
VGA resolution on a small screen like a cell phone works well for using a stylus, but not for using your finger -- icons and text is just too small.


RE: HVGA, Still?
By nvalhalla on 1/9/2009 12:41:31 AM , Rating: 2
Too bad they couldn't use a larger font...

Oh, wait...


RE: HVGA, Still?
By Targon on 1/9/2009 8:40:23 AM , Rating: 2
If all you are doing is watching TV on your phone, then a Palm won't be for you. Palm is NOT targeting the "kiddie" market, but the prosumer space, which means people who use their phones for work as well as for personal use. Do we REALLY need a 3.1 inch screen with a super-high resolution that only kids can read(once you hit 30-40, you find your eyes are not what they used to be).

I want to USE my phone as a phone/organizer, and having web access is a plus. That is what MOST people want as the primary use of these things. The focus on multi-media features at the expense of quality in the core functions just does not work for most people.


RE: HVGA, Still?
By v3rt1g0 on 1/10/2009 4:24:41 AM , Rating: 2
Nice inane rant, too bad it had nothing to do with the screen resolution of PDAs. Apparently you've never heard of increasing the size of fonts and GUI elements to make use of the higher DPI of a higher resolution screen.

Go back to your porch and continue yelling at the kids to get off your lawn, you crotchety old fart.


correction
By SigmundEXactos on 1/8/2009 4:18:09 PM , Rating: 2
Brandon, you said "At the top of the device is a power button, 3.5mm headphone jack, and a power switch." That switch is a ringer on/off switch. It switches everything to silent/vibrate as necessary--a very nice feature of Palm smartphones as at least my Treo 755p vibrates when I switch it to vibrate, so I can "turn my phone off" without taking out of my pants pocket.

This is a very exciting development--a much better phone than the iPhone, from both a hardware and, more importantly, an UI perspective--which can't be said of most other iPhone competitors.

What will really sell this device is if it is compatible with all PalmOS 5 applications. Some applications (like LJP) that allow me to emulate NES/SNES/Genesis/SMS/NeoGeo/GB/GBC/etc/etc/etc I really want to keep.

As for Sprint being a launch partner -- Sprint has been Palm's launch partner for pretty much every device they've had. Sprint is also the only one that ever really advertised Palm devices, so this is pretty much a no-brainer. It would have been nice (for Palm and users) to be available on multiple carriers (esp GSM ones), but that's the US mobile market for you. Sprint does have the lowest data cost though -- I have Sprint for my business and their all you can eat plan ($99/month, which is really $120/month with tax). With any other carrier plan that includes (unlimited, or at least more than the crap 5GB that Verizon gives you) costs $150 + tax.




RE: correction
By Targon on 1/9/2009 8:11:31 AM , Rating: 2
The only real advantage you get with Sprint is their unlimited minutes plan for voice. AT&T unlimited data is $20/month, going to $40/month for unlimited web/messaging/data. Voice is on top of that, but the data plans from AT&T are not THAT bad.


RE: correction
By clovell on 1/9/2009 12:46:56 PM , Rating: 2
$40 + how much for a realistic voice plan?


Wow!
By Gzus666 on 1/8/2009 3:30:36 PM , Rating: 2
Looks and sounds quite impressive. I only wish they would have thrown Android on there rather than something else proprietary. Honestly though, that is a pretty nice phone.




RE: Wow!
By Targon on 1/9/2009 8:08:15 AM , Rating: 2
Considering how few phones have Android on them, I don't see there being an issue with the new OS. Now, if Android had been out for years, and there were thousands of apps for it, that might be another story.

One thing that was planned for NOVA(the development code name for WebOS) was compatibility with older PalmOS applications. As a result, if the compatibility is good, it may be that the new OS gains adoption faster, once we get a GSM based version.


By dno1creator on 1/8/2009 5:18:42 PM , Rating: 2
I was wondering what device to get to replace by HTC Touch on Sprint but now I know I just wait a few months and it be the “Pre”...
When the IPhone came out it streamlined all the UI to a simple touch or flick which the Palm Treo could not do but had most of the feature i.e. you could have watch TV, play videos/music streaming office apps and so on.
For it being on Sprint, the folks commenting on this post clearly do not have Sprint and either had bad times or heard from folks about their bad experiences. But that I have to comment on and can tell you
Sprint Customer service has improve quite considerable. There coverage I have no problem in the 4 year I have being with them which has gotten better and better over those 4 years.
With that I think Sprint needs a device like this, the Instinct comes very close to the IPhone and the next generation of it will be surpass alot of expectations, now with that the Pre and Sprint Efforts to have great customer service, I think the Pre will do quite well. Palm and Sprint have a winner here, so haters go play with your inferior IPhones...




By Aeonic on 1/8/2009 5:37:16 PM , Rating: 2
I too have Sprint, my wife has a HTC Mogul and it's pretty sweet, but obviously doesn't measure up to an iPhone. Still, we've been with Sprint for years and remain pretty happy but not above switching if that changes.

I'm excited to see what looks like a competitive device from Palm. I hope whatever browser they use works well.


Want
By Bender 123 on 1/8/2009 3:46:21 PM , Rating: 2
Want! Want! Want! Need to replace Centro!

Now that I got that out, I am happy Palm is back with something looking good! They have always had a place in my office and I was starting to be swayed by pretty pictures of the iPhone.

As for choosing Sprint, I like it. They have been turning it around in service and expanding 3G almost everywhere (even in central WI) and they really need a cool phone. Also they have no competition from iPhone droolers in the CDMA world.

I cant wait to trade up!




Option for an onscreen keyboard?
By tdawg on 1/8/2009 4:13:10 PM , Rating: 2
I'm hoping that text input and phone dialing can also be done on a virtual touch keyboard/keypad, rather than relying solely on the slide out keyboard. I personally like having the option. If they'd implement a touch keyboard like the Samsung Eternity keyboard, I'd be quite interested(though still disappointed this is on Sprint, rather than AT&T).




yuk
By TO on 1/8/2009 7:04:01 PM , Rating: 2
damn that's an ugly phone...




what about the other
By neolord on 1/10/2009 10:03:34 AM , Rating: 2
The Pre is cool but I think it's specs may be a little short. There the new n97 (with much better specs) that's about to come out, I'm sure there will be an iphone update soon(or later), look at all the new WM phones that has came out in the last few months ( sony x1, touch pro, ect...) that are iphone like and lets not for get about all the new black berries!!! The OS looks nice but we all know there is WM upgrade coming, symbian update/upgrade on the way, the android (which just came out) has not even started to show what it can do and rim been updating their OS as well!! I would like to see palm make a come back!!! I just think that this phone is a bit low on specs (vga, 16 gb+ on broad, SDHC card and 5meg cam+ with a good flash would have been nice) and that their OS(which looks nice) still seems to have a been there done that(i.e. iphone) feeling that may not get many people (outside of those people on sprint who seem to love palm phones) to buy them!!! Now if they can keep the cost down for unlock phones (don't see how because HTC is building it!!) and come out with a phones that have lower and higher specs/price then they may make one heck of a come back!!!!




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