Source: The Independent
quote: "Some feel the President shouldn't have the power to order the warrantless killings of Americans on U.S. soil.""Some"!?
quote: If you're trying to assume that Jason Mick is playing partisan politics, and that he is a hard core republican, you haven't been following Dailytech long enough.
quote: I started reading here because of Masher, and didn't like Jason's perspective at all back then (it seemed as though he were on a liberal global warming spree).
quote: Jason has never struck me as a Reagan lover and I think you're trolling is in very poor taste.
quote: Yet neither of you addressed the not hidden at all message that every president has used the US military to attack nations outside of Congressional approval. Now we attack individuals in areas that the de facto nation has little control (Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan).
quote: Suddenly the reason why Congress and the President support a lot of operations and invasions that are unpopular and at times nonsensical/counterproductive makes a lot more sense. Feed the hand that feeds.
quote: I tend to be "party democrat" liberal, however, This is just terrible. You should ask these family members, what will happen when a republican or somebody they doesn't like comes to power?
quote: Obama is pretty much doing the exact same thing with drones as Bush - let the CIA and DoD kill bad people in lawless lands that we don't want to invade
quote: You keep forgetting that drones have been in use since Clinton. They are just getting more press coverage because the Right can't seem to find anything else to complain about.
quote: The public has the same kind of fascination with drones as they did with our nuclear umbrella in the 80s and precision munitions and night vision in the 90s. Drones and stealth are the 'cool military toys' of the age.
quote: Do those "bad people" include civilians? If so, why is the Pentagon paying grief payments for these "bad people" (or "bad civilians"?) deaths?
quote: I know there's reasonable people on both sides of the aisle, my intention was not to blast "Party Democrats", but rather to suggest that there's unreasonable people (on both sides of the aisle) who baffingly see no harm in warrantless killing of Americans and other unconstitutional actions.
quote: There's never been a conflict this major in the history of armed combat that's resulted in so few civilian casualties. Especially considering it's sometimes impossible to identify the civilians from the insurgents.
quote: Yup, I've broached the topic with certain Obama-obsessed "Party Democrat" family members and they argued it was fine (I kid you not) because "the Constitution is outdated" in their opinion, and they believe Obama would never abuse that unchecked power and that "we live in a scary world today where people want to kill Americans (so warrantless deathstrikes are necessary)."
quote: Yeah we're on year 5 of the Democrats new plan of making the world love us more. How's it working out so far? Not that I care about world opinion personally, but you have to admire the complete and utter failure of Obama and Hillary in the foreign relations arena.At least under Bush there seemed to be clear goals. Even if they were unwise. Obama to the rest of the world looks more like a random assassin, we're everywhere now randomly killing everyone. What was Libya even about again? We violate a sovereign nations boarders to raid Bin Laden. He even wants to kill US citizens with drones!! We don't even defend our own people from a clear assault on our own embassy in Benghazi, we try and cover it up.
quote: Lets not forget Syria, Obama talks tough about a "red line" on the use of chemical weapons. So it happens, innocent people are gassed to death. So this would be a CLEAR cause for us to do something about it, right? Wrong, Obama issues more rhetoric.Where's the consistency? If it was so important to use military assets (illegally without Congress) to intervene in a civil war there, why is it NOT equally important to intervene in Syria when civilians are being killed by biological weapons? What's the reasoning behind this!?
quote: Drone strikes started in Pakistan in 2004. Whoops!
quote: Do you still want to get involved?
quote: You're a Fox 'News' parrot. Just repeat what your told. Make sure not to use critical thinking or deductive reasoning. Just repeat what you're told. The truth? Irrelevant.
quote: I have no sympathy whatsoever for ANY government in that crazy stupid region of the world nor do I have any sympathy for religious fanatics of any faith, but these two items beg for comments:I wonder how we'd feel if the Pakistani government killed US citizens in the US and then offered "grief payments of a few thousand dollars per body." I think I know.
quote: We are trying to stop it, and yes, almost always each side loses innocent lives in war. That's what wars are unfortunately.
quote: They are just whining because the President is a black Democrat.
quote: Obama is a moderate through and through.
quote: The number of innocents kill in 9/11 is a so small compared to the number of innocents killed in Irag, Afghanistan, and Pakistan combined.
quote: Firstly, it IS NOT war
quote: Firstly, it IS NOT war, if you think you it is, the MASS MEDIA complex has truly done its job to convince the avg joe the US is at war.
quote: A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.
quote: War is an organised and often prolonged conflict that is carried out by states and/or non-state actors. It is characterised by extreme violence, social disruption, and economic destruction.[
quote: 1. a conflict carried on by force of arms, as between nations or between parties within a nation; warfare, as by land, sea, or air.2. a state or period of armed hostility or active military operations
quote: (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations(2) : a period of such armed conflict
quote: a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state
quote: We probably wouldn't feel much of anything because they'd be killing our citizens as a result of our savage asymmetrical warfare strategies that put exponentially countless more innocent civilians in harms way.
quote: "Some feel the President shouldn't have the power to order the warrantless killings of Americans on U.S. soil." "Some"!?
quote: IF ANY other countries decided to start using drones to kill SUSPECTED targets in the US and civilians, that would be an immediate declaration of war.