DailyTech - Pakistan Offers China Glimpse of Downed U.S. "Stealth" Helicopter

Submit News

Blog: Science Pakistan Offers China Glimpse of Downed U.S. "Stealth" Helicopter
Michael Hatamoto - August 15, 2011 7:45 AM

21 comment(s) - last by dsumanik.. on Sep 3 at 3:35 AM

Stealth helicopter wreckage (Source: New York Times)

Chinese military engineers may have gotten a glimpse of the US stealth Black Hawk helicopter

The daring raid that killed Osama Bin Laden unfortunately left behind part of a next-generation, modified Black Hawk "stealth" helicopter. The helicopter was destroyed by the SEAL team, as expected of downed aircraft in foreign locations, though part of the aircraft remained after the tense raid.

However, it seems that Chinese engineers -- with the permission of Pakistan -- collected images and other possible footage of the wreckage according to recent media reports. According to the Financial Times, the Chinese engineers were given direct access to the crash site and were able to take samples of the helicopter’s radar-absorbing skin.

China is the top weapons supplier to Pakistan, with many of those weapons being used to fight Al Qaida and the Taliban. However, there is just as much concern that those weapons can be funneled to the very groups the U.S. military is trying to combat.

The current political climate between the United States and Pakistan remain tense, and this won't help future discussions. U.S. officials already cut one-third of Pakistan's yearly $2.7 billion money care package aimed at defense and military aid -- though will continue to offer civilian aid.

The Chinese Navy recently started first sea trials for the country's first aircraft carrier, while China looks to develop its own fleet.

Comments

Threshold

Username
Password
remember me

This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

Hence why

By FITCamaro on 8/15/2011 1:27:19 PM , Rating: 2

China doesn't need to spend nearly as much on defense as the US. They steal everything.

RE: Hence why

By ZorkZork on 8/15/2011 6:00:52 PM , Rating: 2

Not stealing from the US would be unpatriotic.

And when labor cost 10 times less than western labor they can get by with significantly less spending.

There is no doubt that within the foreseeable future China will be a military power to recon with. And in the not so distant future, it will overtake the US in terms of raw power and military sophistication.

Let's just hope that capitalism in both countries and other world powers make everybody see that war among major powers is bad for business. That goes for proxy wars too.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By Master Kenobi

(blog) on 8/15/2011 6:41:36 PM , Rating: 5

Well it will be interesting to see if China's R&D capabilities can get them pushing ahead long term. Right now the game is great because the USA, and Russia have been a convenient source of technology for a long time. At one point they will reach the point that they can't steal anything new, they will be on par with the USA and Russia. At what point do you have to adjust your strategy to develop your own based on nobody elses stolen technology. I think once they get there they might have a hard time adjusting for the first 25 or so years. I dunno, it really remains to be seen if China can develop anything from the ground up. Now as for effeciency, China isn't really any better either since their biggest effeciencies are much lower regulations and a much cheaper labor force. Neither of those will last forever, we had it in the USA before people decided they wanted better working conditions and regulations to help with pollution and other problems plaguing us. Now we are losing the global position that we attained by doing exactly what China is doing now, granted we didn't steal a whole lot of technology after WW2, but we did acquire many foreign scientists and engineers from foreign countries, so much the same in the long run.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By inperfectdarkness on 8/18/2011 10:47:38 PM , Rating: 2

that's my conclusion as well. that, and the closer china gets to parity, the more beneficial it is for the USA to utilize those same espionage tactics against china; we can't really steal useful secrets from someone still tied to the dark-ages.

p.s.
pakistan has pretty much proven itself to be an uncooperative nation with regards to supporting war on terrorism. i suspect the "hinderance" of our efforts in afghanistan by pakistan actually dwarfs the same type of efforts iran used against our iraqi occupation.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By dsumanik on 9/3/2011 3:35:51 AM , Rating: 2

Furthermore.... the OP mentioned war is bad for business....even proxy wars.

IMO a little short sighted...it just depends on your business.

-oil, mining and most forms of resource gathering will see a boost
-war causes stock prices to fluctuate, whether prices are nosediving or skyrocketing...someone is making money off of it.
-war fuels R&D in all sorts of applications, again somebody is making money off of the tech somewhere, and so is the workforce required to develop it. The businesses continue to profit after the war ends by commercializing said technology, or using it to develop previously impossible technologies.

And no trolls....I'm not advocating war, but if you are of the impression senseless killing will be avoided due to cost...you are sorely mistaken....

Or do you honestly believe iraq was invaded for WMD's LOL!!!

oh and p.s.

how have oil prices been since then?

LOL

That war was cha ching on so many levels....just not for me and you.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By Phoque on 8/16/2011 7:51:40 PM , Rating: 2

quote:
There is no doubt that within the foreseeable future China will be a military power to recon with.

I'd dare say it is the case pretty much right now.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By cruisin3style on 8/17/2011 2:22:02 PM , Rating: 3

regionally maybe, but not globally

Parent

RE: Hence why

By AEvangel on 8/17/2011 3:49:34 PM , Rating: 2

quote:
regionally maybe, but not globally

How do you come up with that logic??

Parent

RE: Hence why

By mindless1 on 8/17/2011 5:33:11 PM , Rating: 3

Global prowess depends on air support.

"The Chinese Navy recently started first sea trials for the country's FIRST aircraft carrier,"

Parent

RE: Hence why

By cruisin3style on 8/18/2011 3:41:53 PM , Rating: 2

lack of what i guess is called a deep water navy for starters...especially aircraft carriers, and I don't think they have any bases in any countries other than their own...but i could be wrong about that.

They could project power to neighboring or regional countries, but attacking an area on the other side of the globe from them like say europe is almost certainly out of the question.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By dark matter on 8/22/2011 11:49:44 AM , Rating: 1

You heard of ICBM's?

Duh!!

Parent

RE: Hence why

By rcc on 8/30/2011 4:29:53 PM , Rating: 2

sigh

There you go, spanking the baby with a battle axe, again.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By jms102285 on 8/19/2011 9:16:09 PM , Rating: 2

Uhh, because the Chinese navy's first "aircraft carrier" is a retrofitted decommissioned 1980's era Russian carrier that was originally bought to be turned into a casino?

That's not their first aircraft carrier, it's basically a non-threatening symbol meant to try and make regional powers fearful.

The United States is currently researching/developing an aircraft to carry a payload at mach 20, with the goal of a precision strike anywhere in the world in under one hour.

That boat is useless.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By gamerk2 on 8/23/2011 10:59:26 AM , Rating: 1

So are ours. Aircraft Carriers are basically floating deathtraps in my eyes. Especially when long-range anti-ship missiles have about 40nm longer range then interceptors longest range missile...[Hence why the Navy developed the AIM-54 Phoenix, which no plane aside from the F-14 and F111-B can carry.]

Parent

RE: Hence why

By voodoochile123 on 8/30/2011 8:48:56 PM , Rating: 2

I think they are pretty safe these days. They have computer controlled mini-guns on them which can just shoot down any missile that even gets close. Or at least the ships do, not sure about carriers, but carriers will be escorted by those ships.

Parent

RE: Hence why

By dark matter on 8/22/2011 11:48:58 AM , Rating: 1

You see those nukes..

How far do you think they can fly buddy?

Parent

RE: Hence why

By dark matter on 8/22/2011 11:45:29 AM , Rating: 1

You're such a tard.

Parent

PAk will sell anything and so will any other country ...

By fteoath64 on 8/20/2011 4:21:16 AM , Rating: 2

These are scrap junk to the Pak's so if they can fetch top dollar for the Chinese or whoever why not ?.

Besides, if the US had no bribed so many countries using "Aid Money", we might not have been in so much trouble!. But wait!. It was planned.

uhh

By AssBall on 8/15/11, Rating: -1

RE: uhh

By BugblatterIII on 8/15/2011 11:14:12 AM , Rating: 2

However it's concise and doesn't spend the first five paragraphs recapping and linking to everything DailyTech has ever written about China or Pakistan... ;o)

Parent