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Sony PS3 Netflix streaming loses disc requirement  (Source: Sony)
Service also gets faster and higher resolution

Over the last year, Netflix has greatly increased the number of devices that are capable of streaming content making it easier than ever for consumers to try the company's streaming offerings.

In 2009, Netflix streaming landed on the PS3 making the owners of the console very happy. That streaming content announcement was tempered a bit with the news that you couldn't just stream that content natively through the PS3, and that a disc would be required. The Blu-ray disc used the features of BD Live to stream the video and allow Microsoft to continue to claim exclusive streaming rights to the service.

Sony has now announced that starting next week that disc will no longer be required to stream content from Netflix over the PS3 console. An update will land for the PS3 on October 18 that will allow for native and direct streaming through the PS3. Along with losing the disc, the new service will also bring a richer and faster browsing experience. The content of the streaming library will be searchable directly from the PS3 and Sony promises "dramatic" improvements in the speed with which content starts to play once the content is chosen.

Other new features that will come along with the update include some movies and TV shows that will be offered in 1080i resolution with Dolby 5.1 surround sound. A larger part of the content will also be offered with subtitles, which are great for the hearing impaired and those that don't speak the language well.

"Netflix is committed to delivering an unparalleled experience to its members who watch TV shows and movies streamed instantly over the Internet," said Greg Peters, Netflix vice president of product development. "Netflix required an audio solution that could efficiently deliver an outstanding surround sound experience for a wide range of consumer devices.  Dolby Digital Plus proved to be the best solution to meet our needs and the needs of our device partners."



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fail
By inperfectdarkness on 10/14/10, Rating: 0
RE: fail
By Zinabas on 10/14/2010 1:20:32 PM , Rating: 1
It would seem you missed one important concept. If they're using a disc to hold the necessary data to stream then it most likely has a considerable amount of it. The PS3 and XBox 360 both have hard drives to hold the same data. The Wii has minimal permanent storage on a flash chip.


RE: fail
By inperfectdarkness on 10/14/2010 1:39:45 PM , Rating: 2
that would make sense...if the disc was actually used for anything. once you start netflix, the drive doesn't budge.

concept fail.


RE: fail
By Akrovah on 10/14/2010 2:10:13 PM , Rating: 2
1. The Wii DOES have downloadable games. It's called WiiWare.

2. Well we knew that was going to happen the isntant the Wii became an overnight success.

3. My only thought is... yet. Though with the Wii's previously mentioned severly limited app storage it may not be possible to install the netflix app directly to the Wii's internal storage without taking a signifigant chunk of it.


RE: fail
By inperfectdarkness on 10/14/2010 4:00:13 PM , Rating: 1
1. i never said it didn't. what i said was that games released for xbox/ps3 aren't released for wii. i expect SOME console exclusives for all three consoles. i expect some xbox/ps3 only STORE BOUGHT games (due to hardware capabilities). i don't expect that downloadable content released for xbox/ps3 shouldn't be released on wii also. there is no reason for this--other than an intentional slight of the wii. hardware capability is NOT an issue for downloadable games.

2. naturally. yet the maker which pioneered and perfected it is being treated like wastewater by software developers. and i guarantee that has little to do with hardware capability either. thank god for goldeneye (although i'm sure that it will be "leaked" to other platforms, completing the royal screw-job developers are continuing to pursue against nintendo.) the de-facto "boycotting" of the established leader in console sales by software developers is unprecedented in ANY generation of gaming consoles.

3. bull. even IF internal memory is too limited to run netflix (which i HIGHLY DOUBT), it could easily run off a flash card, just like the 40+ games i already have downloaded.

what amazes me the most is that microsoft has demonstrated failure to aptly grasp the console market. xbox1 was too expensive, hard to develop for, and an ergonomic biohazard. the 360 was never designed properly from the get-go. yet, despite (or rather IN SPITE) of these shortcomings, fans still embrace microsoft's offering as some kind of "holy grail" of gaming. and that's not even to mention the monthly fee associated with live access.

admitted or not, fans everywhere would be better off with a 2-pony war in consoles (sony & nintendo)--and having microsoft go back to software only. don't listen to what a fanboi might tell you, nintendo knows how to do hardware RIGHT. gameboy's haven't survived house-fires and still worked for NOTHING.


RE: fail
By Akrovah on 10/14/2010 6:53:48 PM , Rating: 2
1. Even downloadable games can still require more than the Wii's hardware is capable of handling and new assets would have to be created to accomadate that. This requires extra time and money on top of the time to port the game code. With PSN/XBLA releases they can at least (in theory) re-use the assets from one version to the other. On top of that is again the storage issue. Yes you can expand with SD cards, but even the Wii's ability to handle cards larger than 2 GB was a relatively recent addition. That's not alot of space when you consider that some of the downloadable games on PSN/XBLA can be 2 GB each. Your mention of having 40+ games on your SD card is impressive, but it leave only a little more than 50 megs per game. And this does not take into account the cost of the SD cards, which for a 32GB card can cost as much as a 250GB drive for the Xbox. And you also have to consider adoption rate of expansions. Historically expansions for consoles have never sold well and games that require those expansions usually do not fare well on the market.

2. I will agree to your point here. Nintendo is still trying to pull itself out of the perception of being the kiddy gaming zone. They made vailant efforts during the gamecube era, but the public perception still persists. Add that to the current mainstream perception that the Wii is home primarily to shovelware minigames and Ninento has a hard road trying to regain the respect of the AAA third party developers.

3. Absoluetly. Whatever software is required to run netflix could be stored on an SD card, but see my above comment about expansion attach rates. Netflix may not consider it financially relevant to develop native, disc-less software for the Wii with the low rate that people would be using it.

And I'm nto sure I would considerMS demonstrating failure in the console market. The original Xbox, IIRC, sold at the same $300 price point as the PS2, but had internal HDD and network capabilities. Both of those things were add ons for the PS2. And as I understand it, the original Xbox had an programming interface much like Windows, actually making programming games for it fairly easy for anyone with Windows programming background. It was the PS2 that was the beast to program effectively, something that reportedly persists with the PS3. Add to that the launch of Xbox Live, the online model that other console manufacturers have been striving for ever since, and I would say MS made some pretty awsome and moves with the original Xbox. And now, hardware failures aside the 360 is still the #2 best selling console of the current generation, and with good reason. It has good games and unparalled online service (which is an annual fee, BTW, not monthly).

I don't agree that a 2 pony console war would be best for the consumers. All three have brought something great to the table, to the point that they are all ripping each other off. They are spurning inovation in each other, whether you want to see it or not.


RE: fail
By SpaceOddity85 on 10/14/2010 11:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
You are an idiot.

1. Yes you did say it didn't. Reread your first post moron.
Also, duh games released for the XBox & PS3 aren't going to Wii...the publishers/developers might have too much pride in their artwork/production to dilute the experience with standard definition graphics and gimmicky controls.

2. Motion controls ripped off huh? It's not like the inevitable march of progress would have enabled all consoles to do this anyway. What, did the N64 rip off 3d from the Playstation?

3. Run off a flash card? How is that substantially different from running of a disc?

You are obviously a teenager.


RE: fail
By inperfectdarkness on 10/16/2010 11:42:54 AM , Rating: 2
1. 95% of downloadable games on any of the three systems do not begin to tax system requirements. insinuating that a port to the wii for something like "bionic commando: rearmed" won't happen because of "poor graphics & gimmicky controls" is beyond bunk; it's absolute BS. classic controllers have been available practically since launch. i personally use a turbo GCN controller for several classic games. classic remakes such as bionic commando, blaster master, excitebike, and contra--don't require hi-def graphics. you should be taken out and shot for perpetrating the myth of supposed "inferiority via hi-def".

2. really? wasn't ps1 3d ripped off of the PC? or at least the SNES? i have no problem with progress in gaming. i have a HUGE problem with the consistent innovator being ridiculed and besmerched by the likes of you. microsoft's mass marketing machine (as well as you and your ilk) would like everyone to believe that somehow an add-on, imitation gaming experience is superior to the original invention of a proven innovator. the market naturally gravitated to the ps1 because of disc media > cartridge media (in home based systems). it naturally gravitated to the NES over atari because of similar superiority. same for gameboy's battery life > game gear's. the wii is unique...because instead of hailing it as the victor, sony & MS have united in a giant mudslinging campaign (which owes no small part to respective fanboi's).

3. i can run many different games/apps off a flash card. i.e. i don't have to swap out cards every time i want to do something different. with a disc, i have to swap it out every time.

you are obviously a 13 year old halo player on xbox live, and probably the same one being pwnd in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1hFak1Du0


RE: fail
By darkblade33 on 10/15/2010 11:01:36 PM , Rating: 2
What amazes me is as bad as 360 has been in reliability in thepast they have still outsold the PS3 by roughly 5.5 million worldwide www.vgchartz.com

And even worse the 360 has outsold the PS3 in TOTAL games since launch by about 120 million units ( OR ROUGHLY 8 or 9 BILLION DOLLARS )

Sony really screwed up Epic this round.. they went from having the PS2 domination to PS3 last place in consoles sold and a distant last place in games.. PS3's best selling game sold MILLIONS less then 360's best.. In fact PS3 best selling game sold about what 360's 3rd best selling game did.. If you compare top ten games sold to top ten games sold - 360 really destroys PS3s numbers


RE: fail
By DarthKaos on 10/14/2010 2:52:40 PM , Rating: 3
The Wii does not have a hard drive. If it had a hard drive and a DVD drive it would not get shafted all the time.


RE: fail
By inperfectdarkness on 10/14/2010 4:03:18 PM , Rating: 2
it doesn't need a dvd drive. more bs excuses for "hating" on the wii. and i've been perfectly content with a 2gb flash card--versus having an overpriced, underperforming hard-drive.

p.s.

i will never forgive microsoft for blocking the virtual console release of goldeneye64/perfect dark.


RE: fail
By Akrovah on 10/14/2010 4:35:18 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed re: goldeneye64/Perfect Dark

Absolutely fantasic games

At least PD is available on XBLA. May not be where it shoudl be, but at least it is available.


RE: fail
By ThatMatthew on 10/18/2010 11:10:35 AM , Rating: 2
Aaand the Wii loses its disk requirement the same day as the PS3.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/10/18/netflix-native-a...


Wooohoooo!
By msheredy on 10/14/2010 11:27:30 AM , Rating: 5
I'll say it again... Woohoooo!!!




RE: Wooohoooo!
By Shig on 10/14/2010 11:31:37 AM , Rating: 2
^^


RE: Wooohoooo!
By amanojaku on 10/14/2010 11:33:07 AM , Rating: 5
I had visions of Kenny, cheesing and awesome, rockin' boobs.


RE: Wooohoooo!
By Anoxanmore on 10/14/2010 11:36:53 AM , Rating: 1
First movie that should be watched is "Bitchslap". It has Michael Hurst and Kevin Sorbo in it.

Plus lots of clevage for you men, amongst other things.

Best "B" movie I've seen in a long while.


RE: Wooohoooo!
By RugMuch on 10/14/2010 11:43:46 AM , Rating: 3
God I know that movie. They should just cut all the scenes with the brunet and stream together and release it. Oh wait I already did that.


RE: Wooohoooo!
By Quadrillity on 10/14/2010 11:49:10 AM , Rating: 1
*bewbs


RE: Wooohoooo!
By FITCamaro on 10/14/2010 12:13:09 PM , Rating: 1
You should've seen'em.....You should've seen the titties!!!


RE: Wooohoooo!
By mydogfarted on 10/14/2010 5:29:53 PM , Rating: 2
This is so awesome. Now my PS3 is no longer an ugly brick on my entertainment center. My Blu-Ray drive failed and paying Sony $120 to fix it hasn't been a financial priority.


Windows Media Center?
By MrFord on 10/14/2010 12:14:03 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Other new features that will come along with the update include some movies and TV shows that will be offered in 1080i resolution with Dolby 5.1 surround sound. A larger part of the content will also be offered with subtitles, which are great for the hearing impaired and those that don't speak the language well.


Is this something already available on Windows Media Center?
That would be great.




RE: Windows Media Center?
By BZDTemp on 10/14/2010 12:45:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...subtitles, which are great for the hearing impaired and those that don't speak the language well.


I would think subtitles should be more important which does not understand the language well :-)


RE: Windows Media Center?
By The Raven on 10/15/2010 3:20:45 PM , Rating: 2
I think it is more important for people with toddlers.


Uh...
By Iaiken on 10/14/2010 2:14:24 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe we're just crazy up in Canada, but my Netflix has never required a disk...




RE: Uh...
By Iaiken on 10/14/2010 2:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
On my PS3 that is...


finally!
By teng029 on 10/14/2010 3:55:57 PM , Rating: 2
it's about damn time!




Nice going Sony
By ET on 10/14/2010 4:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
It's nice to see Sony taking seriously the PS3's position as a media centre.




5.1
By tomt4535 on 10/14/2010 4:47:38 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone know if the 5.1 surround sound and 1080i resolution is just for PS3 or is that coming to the Xbox as well?




By rvd2008 on 10/15/2010 10:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
should not require XBox Live Gold subscription or other fees. Period. The sooner they grasp this the better for XBox. I use my XBox less and less and only for gaming. The great idea of multimedia hub is basically sinking with MS not able to understand this simple issue. There is plethora of fee-free Netflix players on the market.




wow
By darkblade33 on 10/15/2010 10:55:45 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, PS3 is getting NETFLIX to be 'disc-less' two years after Xbox 360 which began disc-less.. pretty lame-o..

Netlfix is ok, but they really stink compared to the Selection on Xbox Live Zune, or even what is offered on most Cable companies On-Demand systems..

Netflix streaming is unfortunately in need of newer movies..




Where's my Hulu+
By sapiens74 on 10/14/2010 1:28:17 PM , Rating: 1
Not paying for PSN!




words cna not describe...
By zinfamous on 10/14/2010 3:12:08 PM , Rating: 1
...how excited I am over this. I really hope the PQ improves as they say it will. While I've been surprised how good some of it is ("HD" offerings are ~DVD quality to my eyes--and I consider this surprisingly good, actually), the vast majority of the content has been abysmal from a PQ standpoint. Everything from Starz that flooded the content a few months back is a joke, tbh.

I really, really hope that the browser is much better, as are speed and playback functions: pause, rewind, fast forward--all of the simple functions are nearly unusable with the current disc system. That being said, I still find the service to be nearly unmatched to all of the digital entertainment services that I frequent.




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