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PCI Express: Now with 8 gigatransfers per second; coming to a system near you in three years

The PCI Special Interest Group, or PCI-SIG, this week announced the speeds of the latest evolution to the PCI Express specification – PCI Express 3.0, also known as PCIe 3.0. PCIe 3.0 doubles the transfer rate of PCIe 2.0, bringing overall throughput to 8 gigatransfers per second, or GT/s.

PCI-SIG is designing the PCIe 3.0 standard for increased performance, but maintain backwards compatibility with PCIe and PCIe 2.0 devices. The group managed to double throughput of the existing PCIe 2.0 standard by removing the 8b/10b-encoding scheme used and additional optimizations. The 8b/10b-encoding scheme took 20 percent overhead on the overall raw bit rate, according to the group. The PCIe 3.0 standard also includes new signaling and data integrity enhancements.

"Backwards compatibility was a strong selling point for allowing our customers to migrate their technologies to the future technology, knowing that they had the connection point of being able to plug in older adapters and new adapters into existing whichever, whether it was an old or new platform,” Chairman and President of PCI-SIG Al Yanes said in an interview.  “This backwards compatibility we're maintaining with the 8GT spec.”

PCIe 3.0 remains in development and isn’t slated for finalization until 2009. The group doesn’t expect industry adoption of the upcoming standard until 2H 2010-2011 timeframe, according to Yanes. The group is unsure which companies will support the upcoming PCIe 3.0 specification, but hints there are 900 companies that are part the PCI-SIG group that push the technology.

“Graphics has been a strong proponent of PCI Express, they've always lead the charge of adopting a new generation,” Yanes said. “There's no reason to think this is any different. We certainly think graphic vendors will be a strong supporter with PCIe 3.0,” he added.

In addition to doubling the transfer speeds of PCIe 2.0, the group is actively looking at new protocol extensions for PCIe 3.0, according to Yanes. The group wants to enhance the specification with better efficiency and power management techniques through protocol extensions.

“We're also actively pursuing protocol extensions to take PCI Express efficiency and latency improvement to the next level,” he added.

Expect PCI-SIG to release the official PCIe 3.0 specification in 2009.


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Wheres PCIe 2.0
By woozy on 8/10/2007 1:22:43 PM , Rating: 2
Thinking about PCIe 3.0 already, i dont think most users have even started using PCIe 2.0 then why jump straight to 3.0 ??




RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By leidegre on 8/10/2007 1:31:58 PM , Rating: 4
I find these posts a bit meaningless, but that the hell. Sure it's ahead of it's time, but it's the same principle as always with these annoucnments. If you build it, they will come. Frankly I never did get the the whole PCIe/AGP switch but, if they say we need more bandwidth; we need more bandwidth!


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Xerstead on 8/10/2007 1:46:52 PM , Rating: 2
We will need more bandwidth... eventually. This is due in 3 years. I guess that will slip a little as well, plus a bit longer for the market to adopt it.
I remember 3 years ago my Geforce 4600Ti 4xAGP was a still reasonable card, now its in a box on the shelf.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By webdawg77 on 8/10/2007 3:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, my GeForce Ti4200 8X AGP card is still going good in my webserver. Yeah, I don't really need it for gaming, but it's not sucking up any RAM either :).


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By LogicallyGenius on 8/11/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Howard on 8/12/2007 1:38:55 AM , Rating: 3
Nothing will advance if you don't look ahead.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By S3anister on 8/10/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By MeTaedet on 8/10/2007 10:44:40 PM , Rating: 2
I'll take that card. Unfortunately I'll be using this hand-me-down, p.o.s. Dell with super-mega, amazing, radical, awesome extreme Intel integrated graphics with a whopping 64 mbs of memory until such time as I have saved enough money to buy my dream machine. Please, someone, save me from this cpu-gpu-and-ram-limited hell I am currently living in! I can hardly play videos of games, much less the actual games. It's a nightmare. Imagine having to wait 15 seconds for Firefox to open and 60 or more for iTunes to open... yeah...


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By xsilver on 8/10/2007 11:46:32 PM , Rating: 2
Your post is in gibberish.
let me rephrase for u

some kid is going to go "LOL OMG PCI-3" must have and gets a dell machine with a 64mb PCI-3 graphics card that has 4 pipes and 400mhz clock speed and barely runs sims 2 and the kid goes OMG CUTTING EDGE GRAPHICS!!
feel free to substitute kid for stupid dad.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By krotchy on 8/10/2007 2:04:28 PM , Rating: 5
Remember, PCIe is not just for video. Sure its the most common use. But the PCIe bus is envisioned to be the universal bus for the future. Currently 2K Capture cards, Raid controllers, TV tuners, sound cards (a few so far), firewire cards, lan controllers and everything can be found in PCIe with more coming. If you dont have enough bandwidth with a PCI slot you are stuck. However in PCIe, if your card requires more than 1x, make it 4x, not enough in 4x, go 8x/16x... to get your functionality up, you can simply add lanes to the device rather than try to just fit into the 64bit PCI bus on hand. The flexibility and serial nature of the bus is incredibly powerful.

Currently PCIe 8x raid controllers are the fastest you can buy, and without a bus to fight traffic on they get dedicated speed. In the enterprise market PCIe is growing fast and becoming excessively important. Once more PCIe-1,4,8 devices become more common for consumers it will eventually replace PCI altogether.

Also remember AGP couldn't support multi-gpu's or pretty much anything non video related at all.

I personally want to see a chipset with no PCI slots, no parrallel/serial ports, no ps2 ports. Just maybe 50 PCIe lanes, USB, SATA, GigE and eSATA. Get rid of the clutter of legacy stuff. Clearly the chipset would only be useful for the high end, but i think it would help push the market to a better place in the end.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By ninjit on 8/10/2007 2:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I personally want to see a chipset with no PCI slots, no parrallel/serial ports, no ps2 ports. Just maybe 50 PCIe lanes, USB, SATA, GigE and eSATA. Get rid of the clutter of legacy stuff


Sound's like you want a mac
:o
;)


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Polynikes on 8/10/2007 5:44:33 PM , Rating: 2
I'd love to have more room for the possible 3 GPU (2 video, 1 physics) setup. Just give me a PCI-E 1x slot for my sound card and that's all I'd need.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Zandros on 8/10/2007 3:32:43 PM , Rating: 2
I'm quite sure that AGP 8x was and is capable of multi-GPU configurations.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By dgingeri on 8/10/2007 3:49:01 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, AGP can only control one device at a time. Remember the old ATI Rage 128? They made a card with dual video chips, but it had to use a PCI bridge to allow 2 devices. Then problems came up with the drivers in Win2k and WinXP so it couldn't be used. The Win2K and WinXP AGP drivers couldn't handle a PCI bridge.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Anh Huynh on 8/10/2007 3:51:35 PM , Rating: 2
The AGP 8x spec allowed for dual slots/GPUs, but no manufacturer or chipset designer took advantage of the feature.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By ATWindsor on 8/10/2007 3:53:47 PM , Rating: 3
If only the moronic mobo-makers could make their 16x-slots work with other stuff than graphic-cards, you would be suprised at how usual it is for it not to work.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By bfonnes on 8/11/2007 12:33:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'll bet it can even get me to work on time :)


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Googer on 8/17/2007 2:04:00 AM , Rating: 2
You personaly may not need RS232 Serial, but there are still plenty of (medical/scientific/home theater) devices out there where the only way to interface with them is via legacy serial. I happen to have Garmin eTrex Legend (Still produced) and it requires an RS232 port for mapping and firmware updates.

Also there are tons of POS laser scanners and die hard IBM Model M keyboard users that still depend on the old PS/2 port.

Instead of getting rid of PCI, why not supplant it in future motherboards with one or PCI-x slot that maintains reverse compatability with most older PCI devices while at the same time giving them a boost in performance. And the rest of the space on the motherboard can be dedicated to five or six 16/32 lane PCI-e.

Plus there is still a blank spot in the peripherals business, not enough PCI-e devices have come to market to completely replace legacy PCI (i.e. Soundcards). There are some of us whom don't really want to get rid of their M-Audio Revolution any time soon, so keep PCI legacy.


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By DallasTexas on 8/10/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By onereddog on 8/10/2007 6:34:48 PM , Rating: 4
Do you always write in bold?


RE: Wheres PCIe 2.0
By Scabies on 8/10/2007 9:35:25 PM , Rating: 2
BETTER.THAN.CAPS.PERIODS.ITALICIZEDS.