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China Mobile Chairman Xi Guohua said that his company's alliance with Apple will be "broad"

Foxconn has shipped over a million iPhone 5S smartphones to China Mobile ahead of the big launch, and Apple is looking to expand its relationship with the carrier in hopes of seeing continued returns of the same vein.
 
According to a pair of reports from The Wall Street Journal, Apple is in talks with China Mobile about expanding the relationship between the two. More specifically, China Mobile Chairman Xi Guohua said that his company's alliance with Apple would be "broad" and likely go beyond just working on handsets together. 
 
Neither Apple nor China Mobile went into specifics on the deal, but Guohua did say that China Mobile plans to offer subsidies for the new iPhones. This would be significant for Apple, as its iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S are much more expensive than many of the Android-powered handsets offered. 
 
The 16GB iPhone 5S costs 5,288 yuan ($870 USD) while a 16GB iPhone 5C runs CNY4,488 ($738). This is pretty high compared to an Android-based phone with similar hardware from startup Xiaomi Inc., which only costs about $327 USD. 
 
While Chinese carriers do offer subsidies, they don't match those in the U.S., making smartphones in China much more expensive. The iPhone's high price could ward off many potential customers, so the introduction of iPhone subsidies would be helpful for Apple.
 

[SOURCE: tapscape.com]

Teaming up with China Mobile and looking to expand the relationship is a smart move on Apple's part, considering the Chinese telecom has over 760 million users. Foxconn, Apple's major iPhone manufacturer, shipped 1.4 million iPhones to China Mobile just last week ahead of the big launch this Friday (January 17). 
 
The new deal with China Mobile is expected to boost global iPhone sales by 10 million to 30 million this year. In the third quarter of 2013, Apple came in fifth place with a market share of 6 percent in China. 
 
Gartner reported that Apple's global smartphone market share fell to 12.1 percent in the third quarter behind Samsung's 32.1 percent. 
 
While Apple still trails behind Samsung, a recent report from Reuters said that Samsung could see a slower 2014 as far as smartphone sales go due to Apple's new deal with China Mobile. Analysts forecast that Samsung's mobile devices business will either grow by a single digit or to "shrink mildly" in 2014. This is considerably slow after the company managed to grow by eight times over the past five years, according to Thomson Reuters' Starmine SmartEstimate. 
 
But this hardly means Apple is going to march into China and take over. Samsung has been selling its phones through China Mobile for 7 years, and is the country's largest vendor with 70 million units shipped last year, which accounts for 20 percent of its total shipments.
 
To top it off, technology research and advisory firm Gartner just predicted that devices running Google's Android mobile operating system will achieve 1.1 billion shipments in 2014 -- and Samsung sells the most Android phones out of any other hardware maker. This represents a 26 percent boost from 2013's total.
 
Apple finally scored the deal with China Mobile in December 2013.

Source: The Wall Street Journal



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half a story
By Nortel on 1/15/14, Rating: -1
RE: half a story
By Solandri on 1/15/2014 2:11:02 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Samsung spent 14 billion on advertising in 2013. It's ironic when people call Apple enthusiasts 'sheep' when Samsung spends 14 billion on ads to lure in customers and nobody calls Samsung users 'sheep'.

Samsung makes a gazillion different products. TVs/monitors, cameras, printers, blu-ray players, stereos and speakers, flash memory, rice cookers, microwaves, air conditioners, refrigerators, ovens, washer and dryers, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, lamps, ultrasound machines, CT scanners, a theme park, a hotel chain, insurance, brokerage, construction, oil refineries, steel factories, power plants, water treatment plants, ships, cranes, and on and on. Oh, they also make phones and semiconductors.

Every one of these requires its own advertising campaign and budget. They're not like Apple which can make advertising campaigns for just a half dozen products and call it a day.


RE: half a story
By Nortel on 1/15/2014 2:22:52 PM , Rating: 2
Almost the entire budget was for 'Galaxy devices'. Probably should have mentioned that part.

Samsung also makes tanks but they aren't 'Galaxy' branded :)


RE: half a story
By Monkey's Uncle on 1/16/2014 9:05:47 AM , Rating: 2
Which will account for Samsung outselling Apple iPhones worldwide hand over fist.

The fact that Apple is only just now starting to get into the Chinese market speaks volumes of exactly where their advertising priorities are. It costs a hella lot less to advertise in North America than it does world wide.


RE: half a story
By troysavary on 1/16/2014 4:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
They should brand their tank with the Galaxy name. Recalimer77 would buy one then.


RE: half a story
By datdamonfoo on 1/15/2014 2:12:32 PM , Rating: 4
Nortel,
quote:
Samsung spent 14 billion on advertising in 2013. It's ironic when people call Apple enthusiasts 'sheep' when Samsung spends 14 billion on ads to lure in customers and nobody calls Samsung users 'sheep'.


But this actually proves what people are saying. Sheep buy Apple products regardless of advertising, while Samsung is forced to spend more in order to show why people should buy its products.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/15/2014 2:27:34 PM , Rating: 3
You aren't going to convince Nortel of anything. Its like trying to explain the advanced specifics of evolution to a creationist. There are no ways to explain to someone that isn't listening. Apple = the best no matter what.

This is the guy that is convinced that Samsung's gold GS4 is copying Apple's gold iPhone even though Samsung has made many gold phones going back a decade now. Nope, everyone and everything copies Apple and Apple = the best no matter what.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/15/2014 2:28:50 PM , Rating: 2
I meant to add, he is also the guy that says the GS4 copied Apple by using 16gb, 32gb, 64gb RAM sizes. I kid you not...


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 5:27:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is the guy that is convinced that Samsung's gold GS4 is copying Apple's gold iPhone even though Samsung has made many gold phones going back a decade now


Yes, Samsung has made Gold phones in the past, nobody is claiming Apple is the first to make a gold phone. But Samsung's gold phone was indisputably a reaction to Apple's gold iPhone.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 10:51:34 AM , Rating: 2
Right... So Samsung makes several gold phones over a long period of time... Then years later Apple makes a gold phone, then Samsung makes another gold phone and Samsung is copying Apple?

You Apple zealots and your "stop copying me, stop copying me" crying has got to stop. It's just ridiculously funny at this point. Color is irrelevant anyhow, its just color... I was just illustrating the contant double standard that exists. Aple copies others blatantly and constantly and gets a pass for it. Others copy Apple and the whinning starts ""stop copying me, stop copying me"

Shut your childish little yaps already and just let the phones compete.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:05:01 PM , Rating: 2
King of the angry, hurt, overreactions...

quote:
So Samsung makes several gold phones over a long period of time...


But not for their flagship phone, ever .

quote:
Then years later Apple makes a gold phone, then Samsung makes another gold phone


Then years later, Apple makes their flagship available in Gold, and Samsung immediately makes their flagship available in Gold.

quote:
and Samsung is copying Apple?


You might want to re-read my post where I said 'reaction to' and where I didn't say 'copied' .

It's plain to anyone who isn't so defensive about their precious Android companies that Samsung was responding to Apple, there's no need to get so pathetically wound up and angry about it. It's nothing to do with 'copying', it's just responding to something Apple did.

quote:
Apple copies others blatantly and constantly and gets a pass for it.


Firstly - how? Your whole endless rants are constantly based on how Android is DIFFERENT and Android hardware is DIFFERENT.

Secondly - who says Samsung isn't getting a 'pass' for this - I didn't say they did anything wrong. I just said what they did. And that hurt you, for some bizarre, pathetic reason that I'll never understand.

quote:
Shut your childish little yaps already and just let the phones compete.


If I go quiet will it help your denial where you don't believe that Samsung releasing a Gold S4 was a reaction to Apples iPhone?


RE: half a story
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2014 12:12:43 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
It's plain to anyone who isn't so defensive about their precious Android companies that Samsung was responding to Apple


And it's plain that Apple going to a 4" iPhone was them responding to Samsung. With even larger sizes rumored to be on the way.

Oh but I guess using a color, gold, is more influential than changing the entire form factor of the iPhone to keep up with the competition...

How about the iPhone 5C looking like a pathetic Nokia ripoff? The colors even look EXACTLY the same as Nokia's! And plastic? What's up with that!

Who gives a shit that either of these companies used a color first anyway? Seriously the lengths you Apple retards go to maintain the anti-Samsung hype is pathetically comical.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:25:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And it's plain that Apple going to a 4" iPhone was them responding to Samsung


It's plain that they were responding to Android manufacturers in general, yes. What's that got to do with Gold phones? Nothing.

quote:
Oh but I guess using a color, gold, is more influential than changing the entire form factor of the iPhone to keep up with the competition...


Where did I comment on screen size, its importance, or how important or influential it was compared to colour? You're totally deluded.

What is being said, is that Samsung introduced Gold as a response to Apple . What's so desperately tragic is that you can't just say 'well obviously' like any normal, balanced person, you have to desperately try and 'fight back' by saying that Apple copied X or Y - because you're a total fanboy.

quote:
How about the iPhone 5C looking like a pathetic Nokia ripoff? The colors even look EXACTLY the same as Nokia's! And plastic? What's up with that!


Apple has been consistent in evolving products and later introducing colour ranges, they've done it with every big product I can think of, and probably will with the iPad too. That wasn't a break in their pattern timed exactly when Nokia did something. What Samsung did was.

quote:
Who gives a shit that either of these companies used a color first anyway? Seriously the lengths you Apple retards go to maintain the anti-Samsung hype is pathetically comical.


It seems that the only one who 'gives a shit' about it here, is you. After first desperately denying it, you're then scrabbling about trying to find examples of completely irrelevant things which you claim have been copied in the past. Man up, and just admit Samsung responded to Apple. I know it hurts.


RE: half a story
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2014 12:52:40 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung had gold phones before Apple. Which others have pointed out, yet you just smeared more BS on the discussion to make this seem irrelevant.

And, again, I could honestly care less about a gold phone or who did it first or anything like that. But it's these little stupid things you and your Appletard ilk pounce on and turn into huge points of contention.

quote:
What Samsung did was.


Except as the other posted pointed out, Samsung would have needed a freaking TIME MACHINE to do so by your logic.

quote:
Apple has been consistent in evolving products


1. Iteration isn't evolution.
2. EVERYONE'S products "evolve" for the most part.

quote:
What's so desperately tragic is that you can't just say 'well obviously' like any normal, balanced person


Ironic as you're being equally stubborn in admitting Apple also responds to it's competition, which is currently Samsung.

"Android manufacturers in general" don't sell as much as Galaxy phones. Nice try. Samsung directly competed with the iPhone with the Galaxy line, and took much marketshare and sales from Apple. You can be as cute as you want and deflect the truth all you want, but everyone knows Apple views Samsung as their true nemesis and rival.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 12:48:51 PM , Rating: 2
"If I go quiet will it help your denial where you don't believe that Samsung releasing a Gold S4 was a reaction to Apples iPhone?"

It was a reaction, I agree. I am not saying it wasnt, I am just saying it was done before and will be done again and who gives a crap who did it first or in reaction to who? Its a stupid thing to even mention in the first place much less argue over. You are such a joke. Like I said, I dont care about color, or about who did what first, its just funny how you guys sound like spoiled children "stop copying me"

" Firstly - how?"

Ugh, I dont know why I bother with you, but if you cant see the following, then I just dont give a crap.

- Apple copied notifications from Android
- Multitasking from Palm
- copied task switching UI (half assedly)from Palm
- Voice recognition and RONS of other features from other companies
- copied RIMM and Palm with the entire smartphone concept

Now dont get me wrong, I am not saying Apple did anything wrong by copying those and many other things. It's fine, what ISNT fine, let the best prodcuct win. It's Apple and the zealots getting all pissed of when Apple gets copied, yet not when they copy themselves that is my issue. Its a pointless double standard and you know it.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 12:53:48 PM , Rating: 2
Ack... retry

- Apple copied notifications from Android
- Multitasking from Palm
- copied task switching UI (half assedly)from Palm
- Voice recognition and TONS of other features from other companies
- copied RIMM and Palm with the entire smartphone concept

Now dont get me wrong, I am not saying Apple did anything wrong by copying those and many other things. It's fine, let the best product produced win. What inst fine is Apple and the zealots getting all pissed of when Apple gets copied, yet not when they copy themselves that is my issue. Its a pointless double standard and you know it.


RE: half a story
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/16/2014 11:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
And yet, it was already released in other parts of the world before the iPhone..

quote:
In dealing with the gold Samsung Galaxy S4 “announcement”? Turns out, that was nothing more than a reminder. The gold Galaxy S4 was actually announced on August 27th for United Arab Emirates and made available in stores for purchase on Sept 8th, 2 days prior to the gold iPhone 5 ever becoming official. As it stands, the gold color option hasn’t been made available anywhere outside of UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar, with no current plans to do battle with the gold iPhone globally.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, that is what Samsung claimed.

However, two days before the Gold iPhone was officially announced almost everybody knew that Gold would be an option on the upcoming iPhone, it had leaked.

Samsung hadn't released a Gold iPhone for a long time prior, and then suddenly when rumours of a Gold iPhone surface, they announce their own?

Come on, even you have to admit this one. It's not even a bad thing Samsung did, responding to competition is good, you don't have to be so overprotective.


RE: half a story
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/16/2014 12:03:51 PM , Rating: 2
So, in 2 days, they just made a gold S4, and....Yes, totally!

LOL!

Admit what exactly? The gold S4 was FOR SALE 2 days PRIOR to the gold iPhone announcement. And now, here you are, trying to somehow claim, that Samsung just happened to make a gold S4 within DAYS...

ROFL!


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:07:06 PM , Rating: 2
RE: half a story
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/16/2014 12:50:28 PM , Rating: 2
And? Your point?

That somehow negates the fact that the S4 Gold was out before the gold iPhone? No?

Stupid iTroll.


RE: half a story
By troysavary on 1/16/2014 4:14:34 PM , Rating: 2
Dem Arabs like their bling.


RE: half a story
By Tony Swash on 1/15/14, Rating: -1
RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/15/2014 3:42:41 PM , Rating: 2
"My advice to you would be to try to raise your self esteem a bit and feel less threatened by other people people's different choices"

Says the guy that spends his time online defending a company...... A COMPANY. ;)


RE: half a story
By Tony Swash on 1/15/2014 5:02:26 PM , Rating: 2
I am a fan of Apple, have been since I got my first Mac back in in 1987. It was a Mac II with a massive 8 Meg's of ram. I thought then and think now that Apple make distinctive and very influential products that make the tech world more interesting. I like they way they go about design. I think they are tremendous company and I am so glad they so succesful. So?

What I don't do because I am not a twerp is dribble on about how people who choose not to buy Apple products are idiots. I don't say that people who buy Android or Windows are stupid, sheep, zombies or making a mistake of any sort. People can work out what they want and what they don't. The only idiots are those that proclaim with all the pomposity of the simpleton that anyone buying anything they wouldn't are idiots.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/15/2014 5:30:37 PM , Rating: 2
"I am a fan of Apple, have been since I got my first Mac back in in 1987. It was a Mac II with a massive 8 Meg's of ram. I thought then and think now that Apple make distinctive and very influential products that make the tech world more interesting. I like they way they go about design. I think they are tremendous company and I am so glad they so successful. So?"

Nothing wrong with that part... I was just commenting on your "self esteem" comment above. I found it quite ironic as beyond just being a "fan" you get noticeably upset when other people don't like Apple and/or say anything negative about the company, its, users, its politics, processes or products. You don't see the irony there?


RE: half a story
By Tony Swash on 1/15/2014 6:22:34 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Nothing wrong with that part... I was just commenting on your "self esteem" comment above. I found it quite ironic as beyond just being a "fan" you get noticeably upset when other people don't like Apple and/or say anything negative about the company, its, users, its politics, processes or products. You don't see the irony there?


I get upset by people acting stupid by actually saying stupid things. I don't get upset by people making different shopping decisions to mine or liking stuff I don't. If you say "I don't like the iPhone because of" ------fill in the blank------, or I prefer 'Android because of' ---fill in the blank------, that's OK. Boring, but OK. If you say Apple (or Google or whoever) are evil, or Apple (or Android) customers are stupid, then I get irritated because life is short and people saying stupid juvenile crap just makes it seem shorter. It's the active embracing of crassness, the avoidance of thought, the retreat from adult discourse that offends.

On this forum that sort of stuff is mostly directed at Apple, elsewhere there are other bogey men that attract the mentally undead (try the comments pages of the Guardian on anything to do with climate change where the green crap flow neck deep). I find it interesting that you don't feel compelled to call out the terminally cretinous comments of datdamonfoo but do feel compelled to call out me for pointing out how cretinous they are. Go figure.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/15/2014 7:40:24 PM , Rating: 2
OK, point taken, datdamonfoo's comment was off... But I dont see him spending his time here defending a particular company, that would be you (and a few others).

And lets be honest... You don't care about people saying what you perceive as "stupid things" you only care when they say what you perceive as "stupid things" that are negative about Apple and they are always "stupid" to you if they are negative about Apple, no matter what the subject or content.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 5:25:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
you only care when they say what you perceive as "stupid things" that are negative about Apple


This theory hasn't been tested. Almost all of the comments on this site are anti-Apple and therefore almost all of the stupid ones are, too.

Also, for anything stupid and pro-Apple, it gets corrected immediately by lots of angry Apple-haters, so there's less of a requirement for his intervention.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 7:16:37 AM , Rating: 2
Says the runner up in the Apple fanboy olympics. Pfapf.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
Just illustrates my point nicely...


RE: half a story
By ClownPuncher on 1/16/2014 12:40:05 PM , Rating: 2
Logical fallacy.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 12:49:51 PM , Rating: 2
LOL


RE: half a story
By Monkey's Uncle on 1/16/2014 4:00:45 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Says the runner up in the Apple fanboy special olympics. Pfapf.


Fixed that for you 'spooty.


RE: half a story
By Monkey's Uncle on 1/16/2014 9:13:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I am a fan of Apple, have been since I got my first Mac back in in 1987. It was a Mac II with a massive 8 Meg's of ram. I thought then and think now that Apple make distinctive and very influential products that make the tech world more interesting. I like they way they go about design. I think they are tremendous company and I am so glad they so succesful. So?


Mac. Whatta joke. Considered junk even back in the '80s.

My first commercial computer was an Apple II clone that happened to have an onboard Z80 CPU for dual-booting AppleDOS and CP/M-80. Guess which mode I spent most of my time in (it wasn't AppleDOS). Even back then Apple was behind in their products choosing to use cheap, inferior hardware to run their software stack - believe me, there are some huge differences between 6502 and 8080 CPUs.


RE: half a story
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/16/2014 11:50:16 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't say that people who buy Android or Windows are stupid, sheep, zombies or making a mistake of any sort.
Nope, you just call them other names, like iphobe...


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 5:32:35 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
But this actually proves what people are saying. Sheep buy Apple products regardless of advertising, while Samsung is forced to spend more in order to show why people should buy its products.


Amazing. For years, people have been describing Apple purchasers as sheep because they only bought due to Apple's 'marketing', sucking them in to believing their products were better than they actually were. Now, when it turns out that the products pretty much sell themselves on their own merits, and it's Samsung who are ramming adverts down peoples throats to achieve sales, it's a bad thing to not have to advertise much.

You guys have your own world of logic, don't you, which changes every time you get data you don't like.


RE: half a story
By ritualm on 1/16/2014 2:37:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Amazing. For years, people have been describing Apple purchasers as sheep because they only bought due to Apple's 'marketing', sucking them in to believing their products were better than they actually were. Now, when it turns out that the products pretty much sell themselves on their own merits, and it's Samsung who are ramming adverts down peoples throats to achieve sales, it's a bad thing to not have to advertise much.

The smart and educated folks who buy Apple products aren't sheep - they know what they're getting themselves into. All other users are just that, sheep. They buy Apple because they wrongfully believe the company is synonymous with quality and innovation.

Apple doesn't need to advertise at all. Its products literally sell themselves. People willingly line up outside their retail stores like plantation slaves waiting to be flogged of their money.

Your arguments amount to "if your stuff are good, why advertise?" Oh wait, Apple does ads because its offerings suck compared to the competition, and the only advantage it has is brand recognition. Your arguments are constructed on soggy mud and you're trying to strengthen the foundations by making it too big to fail. What a waste of human intelligence and electrons.
quote:
You guys have your own world of logic, don't you, which changes every time you get data you don't like.

Says the guy who does the very obnoxious behavior he's accusing the rest of us for doing.

I'm more likely to click "Worth Reading" on Tony Swash's posts on Apple articles like these, than I would with any posts from yours truly. In fact, yours belong to a special place in hell, one that even a convicted serial child molester on death row is forbidden to enter.


RE: half a story
By retrospooty on 1/16/2014 2:45:24 PM , Rating: 2
"I'm more likely to click "Worth Reading" on Tony Swash's posts on Apple articles like these, than I would with any posts from yours truly. In fact, yours belong to a special place in hell, one that even a convicted serial child molester on death row is forbidden to enter."

Same here... The guy is truly the most obnoxious human being I have ever come across. I really hope he doesn't act that way in real life and saves all his bile for the internet.


RE: half a story
By troysavary on 1/16/2014 4:20:03 PM , Rating: 2
You didn't just compare being an over-zealous Apple fan to being a child molester, did you?


RE: half a story
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2014 5:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
No it's actually worse :)


RE: half a story
By troysavary on 1/17/2014 6:08:37 AM , Rating: 2
Should we check your van for candy :)


RE: half a story
By saarek on 1/16/2014 8:52:22 AM , Rating: 2
Think I'd rather buy a product based on what it does as opposed to what an advert says it does.


RE: half a story
By Reclaimer77 on 1/15/2014 5:30:53 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Samsung shells out 5.4% of its revenue on advertising, rival Apple spends just .6% on promotion.


And those percentages would be informative if they both had the same revenue. But since they don't.....yeah, kind of a useless statistic.

quote:
It's ironic when people call Apple enthusiasts 'sheep' when Samsung spends 14 billion on ads to lure in customers and nobody calls Samsung users 'sheep'.


Whaaaa whaaaaa!!! People don't like the precious


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 5:30:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
And those percentages would be informative if they both had the same revenue. But since they don't.....yeah, kind of a useless statistic.


Er, what? The whole point of using percentages is that the absolute values of revenue don't matter, it's a spend per revenue.

The bottom line is that Samsung spends massively more on advertising per dollar sale than Apple does.


RE: half a story
By Monkey's Uncle on 1/16/2014 9:16:41 AM , Rating: 2

So, what's your point?

Samsung's smartphones OUTSELL Apple's smartphones by a huge margin WORLDWIDE. So who is benefiting from the advertising dollars, Hmm? Apparently Apple with it's stingy advertising budget isn't now are they?


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:15:00 PM , Rating: 2
Again, the number of sales doesn't matter. It's a PERCENTAGE of revenue.

For every sale, Samsung is having to spend more on advertising.


RE: half a story
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2014 11:33:06 AM , Rating: 1
Apparently you don't get how percentages work...

quote:
The bottom line is that Samsung spends massively more on advertising per dollar sale than Apple does.


And?

I love how suddenly advertising is evil, and adds to you idiots mystique that Samsung is somehow less legitimate.

Apple has historically ran big-budget advertising campaigns. It's only in the last few years that Samsung has passed them.

Yet I can't recall you people ever EVER having an issue with Apple running expensive add campaigns. All of a sudden when someone competing with Apple does it, is it bad and a point of contention.

Go eat shit.


RE: half a story
By Wazza1234 on 1/16/2014 12:19:56 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Apparently you don't get how percentages work...


Um, the whole point is that you don't?

quote:
And?


In this particular comment thread, I didn't draw any conclusions, I simply showed you that the revenue isn't relevant because it's a percentage. Samsung spends more on advertising per dollar revenue than Apple. It's a fact, make of it what you will, but it's not useless like you tried to imply.

quote:
I love how suddenly advertising is evil, and adds to you idiots mystique that Samsung is somehow less legitimate.


Er, where did I say this? YOU should be saying this since you have on countless occasions said the same about Apple. YOU should be being consistent and now say the same about Samsung. Of course, objectivity is way too much to ask from you.

quote:
Apple has historically ran big-budget advertising campaigns. It's only in the last few years that Samsung has passed them.


You're going to need to evidence this. Particularly I'd like to see evidence that Apple has EVER spent as much as Samsung per revenue.

quote:
All of a sudden when someone competing with Apple does it, is it bad and a point of contention.


Sorry, where did I say this? Again, it's YOU who should be saying this to be consistent, I certainly didn't.

I've personally never cared about advertising, still don't. The point is that it defeats YOUR comments and other Android fans who have been saying advertising is bad for years.

quote:
Go eat shit.


LOL.


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