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Likely ill-fated voyage never left the dock

Did Oracle Corp. (ORCL) feel like it could be king of the smartphone world? 

Reuters is reporting that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison testified that his firm considered buying the remains of Canadian phonemaker Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM) and dead Californian phonemaker Palm (a shuttered subsidiary of Hewlett-Packard, Comp. (HPQ)) in a bid to form a massive vessel to house the IT giant's budding smartphone ambitions and sail the mobile seas.

While Oracle may have considered RIM-Palm an attractive proposition and while HP and RIM might have viewed Oracle as their knight in shining armor, numerous icebergs would have loomed if this voyage came to fruition.

Aside from the fact that Oracle would be setting sail into waters ruled by veterans Google, Inc. (GOOG) and Apple, Inc. (AAPL), it would also be doing so with two firms who were rejected by consumers and left for dead.

Some might call this romance madness, but Mr. Ellison testified that his firm seriously considered making a life with the RIM-Palm, but that critical market research sunk the dream.  Instead, Oracle's heart will go on, as it tries to scuttle Google's Android operating system in court on grounds of intellectual property infringement.

In that regard, Oracle could hitch a profits joy-ride aboard Google's wildly successful Android operating system.  Oracle shouldn't count its smartphone dollars before they hatch, though, as Google isn't about ready to succumb to it in court.  The pair will continue their bitter legal dance in weeks ahead.

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By MechanicalTechie on 4/17/2012 11:57:28 PM , Rating: 3
Seems to be a golden age for Patent Lawyers!

They must be loving life!!!

RE: Ka-ching!
By Scootie on 4/18/2012 2:34:01 AM , Rating: 1
Time will come when new companies will have nothing to invent and patent because everything is already "invented" patented.

RE: Ka-ching!
By WalksTheWalk on 4/18/2012 11:35:24 AM , Rating: 3
According to the current state of the USPTO, all you need to do is word the patent to escape current patent wording and you're in.

For example, Apple's patent for multi-touch is:
A touch panel having a transparent capacitive sensing medium configured to detect multiple touches or near touches that occur at the same time and at distinct locations in the plane of the touch panel and to produce distinct signals representative of the location of the touches on the plane of the touch panel for each of the multiple touches is disclosed.

If I have the dollars to file a bunch of patents, all I need to do describe the new patent as being across multiple screen planes or for a curved panel since a curved panel is not technically within the same plane. Or I could change capacitive to non-capacitive. Or I could describe the patent as not for a panel, but for some other wording for panel.

These examples are to point out the ridiculousness of some of the patents. In this case, there are so many prior art cases for multi-touch it's ridiculous.

RE: Ka-ching!
By geddarkstorm on 4/18/2012 12:22:14 PM , Rating: 2
I should change professions...

RE: Ka-ching!
By sportswear13 on 4/18/2012 11:58:37 PM , Rating: 1
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By daveinternets on 4/18/2012 12:51:14 PM , Rating: 3
I'm sorry, but in an article discussing RIM and Palm, I would hardly refer to the Android and Apple platforms as "veterans" in the smartphone world.

At best they are teenagers while RIM is a grumpy old man stuck in his ways, Palm is a coma patient on life support and M$ is an old man with a hair piece driving a Corvette and trying to act young and hip.

Nice Photoshop Job
By EyesWideOpen on 4/18/2012 11:37:48 AM , Rating: 2
Give the fact that HP bought Palm, it would be an interesting Cat Fight between HP and Oracle to see who would have controlled Palm. Good Photoshop Job Ellison looks very lustful.

By sportswear13 on 4/18/12, Rating: -1
Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By BushStar on 4/18/2012 6:33:44 AM , Rating: 3
Personally I find the changing landscape of the big names in computing quite fascinating. I'm gobbling up all these RIM stories.

Gobble, gobble gobble...

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/12, Rating: 0
RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By retrospooty on 4/18/2012 12:21:06 PM , Rating: 2
"Love how the Jason Mick cronies are voting me down to a -1."

That isnt why you are voted down. The tone of your post indicates you are an angry little puke, that is why you are rated down. That and the fact that this article is related to RIM in the sense that Oracle was going to try and but them or parts of them.

"Dailytech is quickly devolving into Boy Genius Report. Believe me that is not a compliment..."

Yet you come here and read articles, and even created a new ID today just to whine about it.

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By Pirks on 4/18/2012 3:32:58 PM , Rating: 1
DT is full of dumb anti-RIM and anti-Apple trolls, get used to it. No point in arguing with them, and Mick is just one of those trolls. Move along people.

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/2012 6:09:23 PM , Rating: 2
You aren't kidding. Look at Retrospooty's post below. People actually expect this type of journalism now and accept it as the norm. So sad. Wonder what would happen if they had to think for themselves rather than being spoon-fed what to think...

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By retrospooty on 4/18/2012 6:20:00 PM , Rating: 2
Dont make assumptions that other thinking differently than you aren't thinking. This is a tech site, not a national news site. RIM's failure is tech news. I don't need Jason or anyone else's article to tell me what to think about RIM. Anyone with half a brain can see whats going on there. Its just a topic when a huge industry leader fiddles for years and then starts fading away.

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/2012 7:27:48 PM , Rating: 2
Look back over the posts I've made so far today. At no time have I actually defended RIM or said that they weren't in trouble. Yes, this is news, especially for a tech site. I'm in no way saying that Jason (or any other tech writer for that matter) should ignore RIM's issues or give them a free pass. Whether or not you are a RIM fan has little to nothing to do with my complaints about Jason, and I have no problem whatsoever with people having varying opinions on matters (RIM's future in this case).

What I DO have a problem with is Jason's attempts to pass off his opinions as proven fact, and doing it over and over again. I already used this example, but in this article, Jason says that RIM has been left for dead and is defunct in the same way Palm is. His OPINION may be that this will happen eventually, and he may be right, but he is not only passing it off as a fact in this article, he's using in the past tense. He's so clairvoyant that his predictions are already true and therefore he can actually speak about them as if they already happened.

You say you can think for yourself. I have no doubts than you can. But how can someone who can think for themselves not take Jason (or any other tech writer) to task over such blatant attempts to spoon feed his views onto his readers, even if you happen to agree with his "predictions"?

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By retrospooty on 4/18/2012 7:47:11 PM , Rating: 2
"Jason says that RIM has been left for dead and is defunct in the same way Palm is. "

You are taking it way too literal. Read it again. He said "it would also be doing so with two firms who were rejected by consumers and left for dead."

In a very real sense this is true. RIM's part of the consumer market is virtually gone, and its in an industry that is growing like crazy. HE isnt literally saying the company is dead as if its a fact. Relax man.

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By McTardy on 4/18/2012 8:26:51 PM , Rating: 2
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel like that's exactly what he is saying. He believes its already happened, so he reports it as fact. It's irresponsible.

By retrospooty on 4/18/2012 5:02:55 PM , Rating: 2
Then dont read them if you dont like them. I dont see any "bashing" at all. He is talking about the deep hole they put themselves in by not innovating at all over the past 5+ years. THat is a fact, not a bash. They are in deep trouble and wont likely last the year as an independent company. That is tech news. Maybe a bit overkill, but smartphones are where its at these days and RIM so pathetically dropped the ball that people talk about it. Its all over the web, not just here.

RE: Jason Mick is OBSESSED with RIM
By mfenn on 4/18/12, Rating: 0
Capitalized words
By vailr on 4/18/12, Rating: -1
"We are going to continue to work with them to make sure they understand the reality of the Internet.  A lot of these people don't have Ph.Ds, and they don't have a degree in computer science." -- RIM co-CEO Michael Lazaridis

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