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Price cuts for a processor that hasn't launched yet

AMD was expected to launch its new line of socket F based Opteron revision F processors yesterday. Interestingly enough DailyTech has come across a distributor’s price list that reveals August 1st, 2006 price cuts for the Opteron revision F processors. The processors aren’t available yet as the Opteron revision F launch has been delayed till August 15th, 2006. Nevertheless the 82xx and 22xx series are receiving mild price cuts of $10-20 anyway.

Opteron Revision F Pricing
Processor
Number

Previous Price
August 1, 2006
Price
Opteron 8220 SE

$2638 $2621
Opteron 8218
$2143 $2127
Opteron 8216

$1515 $1498
Opteron 8214

$1169 $1153
Opteron 8212

$880 $864
Opteron 2220 SE

$1169 $1153
Opteron 2218

$880 $864
Opteron 2216

$707 $691
Opteron 2214

$533 $517
Opteron 2212

$390 $373
Opteron 2210

$268 $252

Eight-way capable Opteron models 8220 SE, 8218, 8216, 8214 and 8212 have dropped to $2,621, $2,127, $1,498, $1,153 and $864 from its previous prices of $2,638, $2,143, $1,515, $1,169 and $880 respectively. Dual capable Opteron models 2220 SE, 2218, 2216, 2214, 2212 and 2212 will be priced at $1,153, $864, $691, $517, $373 and $252 respectively. Previous prices for the Opteron 22xx series was $1,169, $880, $707, $533, $390 and $268.

Opteron Revision F Pricing
Processor
Number

Previous Price
August 1, 2006
Price
Opteron HE 8216

$1829 $1812
Opteron HE 8214
$1341 $1325
Opteron HE 8212

$1024 $1008
Opteron HE 2216

$794 $777
Opteron HE 2214

$620 $604
Opteron HE 2212

$462 $446

Low power eight-way capable Opteron HE models 8216, 8214 and 8212 have dropped to $1,812, $1,325 and $1,008 from its previous $1,829, $1,341 and $1,024, respectively. The dual capable Opteron HE models 2216, 2214 and 2212 cost $777, $604 and $446. Previous Opteron HE 22xx series were $794, $620 and $462 respectively. All Opteron HE models consume 68 watts, 13 watts more than previous Socket 940 based Opteron HE models.

The price war between AMD and Intel is currently in full swing.  AMD cut prices on all of its desktop processors on July 24, 2006, but quickly followed up with a second batch of price cuts to distributors.  Intel responded with a salvo of price cuts on July 27, 2006AMD and Intel are both expected to revisit pricing in late October


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The difference is too small
By mino on 8/3/2006 7:14:28 AM , Rating: 2
Seem to me pretty much like comparing different price sheets - like distributor vs. MSRP.

Doesn't make any sense for AMD to announce such a small price correction.

IMHO this data was just misunderstood by DT.




RE: The difference is too small
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/3/2006 7:16:39 AM , Rating: 2
The "previous" pricing and "August 1" pricing were provided in the same guidance documents from AMD. I'd gladly just publish the documents but I've been running into some "copyright" problems with AMD about that.


RE: The difference is too small
By peldor on 8/3/2006 10:32:05 AM , Rating: 2
Disirregardless of accuracy it still doesn't make sense.

A 0.6% price drop? Who was sitting on a 8-way server purchase thinking "God if only it were $100 cheaper!"?


RE: The difference is too small
By dice1111 on 8/3/2006 11:28:21 AM , Rating: 2
"Disirregardless"

Isn't that an oxymoron of an oxymoron?

Nice word!


RE: The difference is too small
By mino on 8/3/2006 1:53:59 PM , Rating: 2
OK, I take that last sentence back.

Even so this seem like nonsense - meaning either were the previous numbers really just preliminary or there's something wrong.


By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/4/2006 12:52:18 AM , Rating: 2
If anyone wants the PDF files, please feel free to send me an email and I'll gladly hadn them out.


Blah, stupid numbers
By Furen on 8/3/2006 8:05:12 AM , Rating: 2
What are the clocks again? I would guess that the SEs are 2.8GHz parts and the that clocks go down by 200MHz? I havent had too much exposure to the new Opteron numbers.




RE: Blah, stupid numbers
By Kiijibari on 8/3/2006 10:49:21 AM , Rating: 3
Yes you are right.
Little bit more information & European retail prices here:

http://www.geizhals.at/eu/?fs=sockel-f&x=0&y=0&in=

cheers

Kiijibari

P.S: In case somebody is interested, there are also Opteron AM2 prices available:
http://www.geizhals.at/eu/?fs=opteron+am2&x=0&y=0&...


RE: Blah, stupid numbers
By mlittl3 on 8/3/2006 10:49:38 AM , Rating: 2
I was wondering that myself. 2.8 GHz for the SE parts sounds about right since there was a previous price listed. SE parts are usually available to the most premier AMD customers like Sun. The only other two possibilities is that the SE parts are 3.0 GHz or 2.6 GHz. If you look at the energy efficient parts, the numbers would have to include 2.0 to 2.4 GHz which sounds a bit high. I would have though energy efficient parts would go down to 1.8 GHz which would make the SE parts 2.6 GHz.

We will know for sure in the coming two weeks. :)


Ask yourself.......
By crystal clear on 8/4/2006 4:16:29 AM , Rating: 2
Ask yourself how much of these price cuts are really passed
on to the end user.Do you see it in real terms,in what you
actually pay for.All of it is swallowed up by manufacturers,
dealers,retailers to boost their profits/margins.
AMD tends to use these price cuts announcements more like a
form publicity or advertisement,all in their effort to keep
themselves in the news/headlines.
Do they bother to check if the end user really gains/gets
those discounts/price cuts.
Price cuts sound nice as announcements/publicity/adverts etc
but in real terms,the end user hardly feels the impact.
These announcement dont really impress...




RE: Ask yourself.......
By smut on 8/6/2006 12:44:20 AM , Rating: 2
Are you serious? So your saying the recent AMd price drops havent had any effect on what we pay? Have you seen the 3800X2 drop down to 150ish and the countless other chips that have dropped down in the past few weeks. Alot of these price drop do turn into money saved for the consumers so I dont know what your talking about. YOu just sound like an AMD hater....


RE: Ask yourself.......
By JeffDM on 8/6/2006 11:32:44 AM , Rating: 2
It would be an interesting thought, if true, but the sale prices to the end user does drop. You ask whether AMD bothers to check whether the end price drops, but I wonder if you bother to check whether the price drops.

Frankly, for the Opterons, there probably aren't any retailers in the consumer sense involved because they aren't consumer chips.


By stephenbrooks on 8/3/2006 3:19:04 PM , Rating: 2
All the price drops are $16 or $17, with it seemingly random where the $17 are. It looks like integer rounding errors: I suspect they just subtracted a constant of roughly $16.30 out of the calculation they use to determine prices. The rounding suggests that whatever this calculation is, they do it in floating point and then round to the nearest $ at the end. Looks like their pricing is very much "computed" rather than set.




Smile :)
By Clauzii on 8/4/2006 4:17:57 PM , Rating: 2
It's allways nice - whith lower price :)




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