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Microsoft Office 2010 will hit retail stores next month. Perks include a full online edition for paid customers, a limited functionality free online version, and a 64-bit edition available to paid customers for the first time.  (Source: CentrumXP.pl)
Product will hit retail in June

Microsoft Office hasn't had a true competitor in years.  People, particularly news people, sometimes like to manufacture an opponent in such a case.  In the case of Office, people have hailed Open Office and Google Docs as finally giving Microsoft a "fight".  While this may certainly someday come to fruition, such predictions are at the very least premature.

As Microsoft prepares to launch the latest version of Microsoft Office at a special 11 a.m event ("Office 2010 + SharePoint 2010") in New York City, all the numbers look in Microsoft favor.  

Worldwide, 500 million customers use Office.  Office's marketshare has held steady at 94 percent for years according to market research firm Gartner.  The next closest competitor, Adobe has a mere 4 percent of the market.  That means that Open Office and Google Docs are the dedicated office software of less than 2 percent of the people covered in this study.

Google may brag about the thousands of paying business subscribers its adding to its Google Docs program, but ultimately most Google Docs users use the free edition.  Google Docs has 25 million users -- about a twentieth of the total user base of Office.  And its questionable how many of those users are "dedicated" users -- users who use that as their primary office software.

No, the true story of the Microsoft Office 2010 will be told not by how it fares against the competition, but rather by the amount of revenue it generates.  The last new version of Office came in 2006 -- that version still managed to pull in $19B USD in revenue last year.

Microsoft hopes to get a big boost in revenue when it launches Office 2010 to consumers next month, priced from $119 to $499.  Some late buyers of Office 2007 may even get a free upgrade.  And to try to lure in hesitant buyers, Microsoft is offering, in essence, its own Google Docs clone -- an free ad-supported version of the Office suite that lacks many of the suite's advanced features.  The move could squeeze out a bit more revenue in the long run.

However, Microsoft is offering much more to paying customers an even nicer online perk -- full online versions of the Office suite.  And for the first time it will be offering a 64-bit version of Office.

Microsoft will also be launch a special version for Mac OS X computers, later this year, dubbed "Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac".

Office 2010 looks to continue Microsoft's dominance of the office software market.  The real story won't be some "war" between it and Google Docs, but rather a numbers game of how many upgrades Microsoft can gain.  Hot off the success of Windows 7, the alluring new internet-ready product looks well set up to succeed in that department.



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Ribbons
By DrApop on 5/12/2010 1:19:59 PM , Rating: 4
I really, REALLY dislike the ribbon in Office 07. It is a complete waste of space.

Plus, Office 2003 had a ribbon....it was called the button bar. You could arrange like you wanted. You could combine buttons in any way or configuration that you like...while the ribbon seems to be like...this is how it is supposed to be configure...get used to it.

The day I spent 20 minutes in 07 looking for the damn search and replace command was probably the most pissed off I have been in a long, long time.

But as far as google doc being a replacement to Office....not by a long shot. I use google docs but not for anything official or that requires a moderate level of formating. OpenOffice is a much closer competitor. I do like google docs for collaboration at meetings, brainstorming, or draft documents due to being able to quickly and easily store in the cloud.




RE: Ribbons
By Luticus on 5/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: Ribbons
By wallijonn on 5/12/2010 3:56:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The day I spent 20 minutes in 07 looking for the damn search and replace command was probably the most pissed off I have been in a long, long time.


Reminds me of trying to find the print icon in MSO2007. Now I just use Control-P. Makes me feel like I took two steps back.


RE: Ribbons
By Chernobyl68 on 5/12/2010 5:10:15 PM , Rating: 2
couldn't agree more, replacing 1 click with 3 to do the same task is a step backward.

My workplace is going to upgrading to MSO 2007 this year, and I'm trying to get them to purcase an add-in software

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/defau...

reorganizes the ribbon to mimic the appearance of previous version's menus.


RE: Ribbons
By sieistganzfett on 5/12/2010 6:04:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I spent 20 minutes in 07 looking for the damn search and replace command

I pitty the fool who spends 20 minutes looking for a button on the home ribbon. It oughtta smack you for taking that long.


RE: Ribbons
By Nekrik on 5/12/2010 6:16:24 PM , Rating: 2
did you try the Help? Entering 'replace' as the search term showed me the location of 'replace' under the editing tab on the Home tab.


Why 94% of the market?
By mydogfarted on 5/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: Why 94% of the market?
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 10:46:03 AM , Rating: 4
Open office is not a replacement for MS office. The only time i recommend open office is if you meet one of two conditions:

1. you use linux/unix/etc.
2. you are to cheap to buy MS office.

No most people will not use Office to 100% of it's feature set but office is designed to please a wide variety of users and not just one target group. this is why they sell multiple editions with different software included. most people get either the most basic edition or whatever the student edition has.

open office is nice and it works well, but it does not compare to Microsoft office. For instance open office has no e-mail client, granted you can overcome this with Thunderbird or others, but if you think these compare with outlook you're sadly mistaken.

the mac/pc argument i can almost get, the linux/windows argument i can understand to a point. in the office software field Microsoft dominates - no contest!


RE: Why 94% of the market?
By ekv on 5/12/2010 1:11:16 PM , Rating: 2
ok, call me cheap. Open Office does what I need. I don't need super-sophisticated stuff. I can see having to do some "automation tasks" with Word or Excel that OO may not handle, but that would be a job I'd do for somebody else, not something I'd run on my machine.

Sure, if I'm a business then I'm going to standardize on MS Office. But otherwise, there's no compelling justification. Email is simply web-based. Etc.


RE: Why 94% of the market?
By JediJeb on 5/12/2010 7:23:29 PM , Rating: 1
I agree. Unless you are trying to do some fancy formatting or complicated spreadsheet MS Office is just not worth it. Heck I can get by most of the time with Notepad or Wordpad. OpenOffice is nice for when I need a simple spreadsheet. Gmail is what I use so no need for Outlook. I know about 4 or 5 people who actually use MS Office that really need it because what they do would not work on anything else.


RE: Why 94% of the market?
By alcalde on 5/18/2010 8:27:45 PM , Rating: 2
"Sure, if I'm a business then I'm going to standardize on MS Office."

There's no real need for a business to standardize on MS Office. You can see at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_Ope...

that many state and local governments and departments around the world have switched to OO and saved taxpayers a lot of money.


RE: Why 94% of the market?
By alcalde on 5/18/2010 8:21:07 PM , Rating: 2
Let's try your same logic with cars and see where you miss the point:

The Ford Taurus is not a replacement for a Ferrari. The only time I recommend the Taurus is if

1. You live somewhere where you can't buy Ferraris.
2. You are too cheap to buy a Ferrari.

No, most people will never need the acceleration or top speed of a Ferrari, but it's designed to please a wide variety of users.....

Seriously? The point you're not addressing is that most people don't need or use some of the esoteric features of Office, and thus the three-digit price tag is not worth it (same with most people not needing Photoshop).

Your only argument is that OpenOffice doesn't bundle an e-mail program??? And even then you don't explain how Outlook is better than Evolution or many of the other open source e-mail/calendar/collaboration software packages. You then state that there is no contest between OO and Office, yet you never compared one feature of the two.


Bloatware since the mid nineties
By Motoman on 5/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: Bloatware since the mid nineties
By Nekrik on 5/12/2010 6:00:13 PM , Rating: 2
...what a waste of money and time to do the user research, monitor incoming requests, writing the code and testing. I bet they would still be at 9x% if they decided to strip them all out. I mean, increasing the maximum number of cells in Excel when no one uses it doesn't sound too smart. Also can't remember the last PowerPoint presentation I saw, or anyone needing Access for that matter. Using the calendar in Outlook, or it's integration with the rest of the suite and SharePoint, no one ever uses that either.

Sorry, but you sound like a 'fresh out of college' kid who hasn't had much experience in the business world if you even remotely think the suites are 'close enough'. For those that don't need the features there's always the Home/Student versions, and as long as they don't require compatibility with the rest of the suite maybe they can get by with alternatives. Those who require the features in the Professional or Business versions there's really not a viable replacement.


RE: Bloatware since the mid nineties
By JediJeb on 5/12/2010 7:30:18 PM , Rating: 2
But how many people out there are actually "business" people. You seem to think that everyone sits at a desk and types presentations all day long when as the OP said most people out there never do that. I work in a laboratory and even here 90% of us could get by with Wordpad and a simple spreadsheet like what is in OpenOffice. I can't find anything in MS Office that would make it worth more than $30 let alone the $100+ for some versions.


RE: Bloatware since the mid nineties
By Nekrik on 5/12/2010 7:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
looking at the amount of revenue taken in by the enterprise version indicates the're a lot of people out there, and for MS to not offer the features they need would be a deal breaker. I would imagine most of the people working in the clerical area of any business would use it more than those who are working in a lab (RND, pharmacuetical, engineering, etc...). I think a similar comparison would be any specialized software you guys (or any scientist/engineer) might use for a specific task compared to the OOS version. I'm not saying that everyone sits at a computer and crunches numbers all day, but if the feature isn't there and you need it then you are SOL with all the alternatives. If you use SP you are SOL. If you use anything different than the industry standard you are SOL when you try to work with other groups or send a file to an outside source, sure there's a bit of compatibility in OO but not enough to make it a replacement


By Motoman on 5/13/2010 12:02:13 AM , Rating: 2
I've worked for software companies for 15 years.

I know of no one...ever...who used anything in Word more sophisticated than mail merge. Nothing in Excel more exciting that the occasional @ function. Most people can't manage to use animations in PowerPoint.

...in other words, the VAST majority of people, business or otherwise, have not the slightest use for the VAST amount of BS in MS Office. Or WordPerfect Office for that matter.

Just don't. You have to be a highly specialized person to need much of anything beyond what WordPad can do. And I mean HIGHLY.


About Mac users...
By Micronite on 5/12/2010 10:54:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Microsoft will also be launch a special version for Mac OS X computers, later this year, dubbed "Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac".


I thought this was great (Office 2011). This way Microsoft is still letting Apple users think they're better than everyone else, but they really just give them the same product.




RE: About Mac users...
By corduroygt on 5/12/2010 2:13:23 PM , Rating: 2
As a former user of Office for Mac 2008, I can affirm that it's indeed "special", like "special olympics."
Downloaded 2010 from MS partner portal the other day and I like it so far.


2010 is worth it
By xler8r on 5/12/2010 10:39:43 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a big fan of 2010 and have been using the beta for almost 5 months now. They've rearranged some buttons in places that I don't care for (right click to delete in Outlook, the delete button is almost at the bottom).
Publisher finally got the makeover it needed and its light years better then the past versions.
Excel got "powerpivot" tables which are great if your not using another software for reporting like Qlikview.

The sleek look is hot, but aside from the before mentioned gripe about Outlook, I think the new backend menu system got overhauled when it didn't need to and is introducing extra steps that are unnecessary....




SharePoint 2010
By Nekrik on 5/12/2010 12:47:29 PM , Rating: 2
been using the beta for a while now and I'm pretty happy with the changes, the SharePoint editing applications are really nice to have. We've had each version of SharePoint at work and each version seems like a huge improvement over the last, this alone looks worth upgrade for most businesses.




We need competition
By dgingeri on 5/12/2010 3:47:05 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is that nobody puts in enough effort to actually create a decent competitor. It's not MS's fault that the only competition they had died off long ago because they just didn't invest the time and money into making something that could actually compete.




An improvement or not?
By porkpie on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: An improvement or not?
By Lord 666 on 5/12/2010 10:30:10 AM , Rating: 3
Give 2010 a try; the stability improvements in Outlook are alone worth it.

Have to admit 2010 is the first version since 2003 I can justify purchasing. Doesn't look like MS is going to give out free copies this time like they have in the past at release parties.


RE: An improvement or not?
By frobizzle on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: An improvement or not?
By Taft12 on 5/12/2010 10:57:14 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure why he would be pimping Outlook, you should not be using it unless it's connecting to your work's Exchange server


RE: An improvement or not?
By corduroygt on 5/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: An improvement or not?
By Mitch101 on 5/12/2010 2:54:20 PM , Rating: 3
Maybe both of you are confusing Outlook Express with Outlook. Outlook is excellent for home use. Nothing is better. If your a one e-mail account person Thunderbird is good but Outlook has some great things built in and it will only get better when Windows Mobile 7 comes along.

*Its 64 Bit
*Conversation View Yes I know G Mail has this too.
*Cleanup Conversation for removing dupe message clutter
*Quick Steps
*Built in Image Editing great for cropping and editing pictures without having to fire up mspaint.
*Great for handling multiple e-mail accounts if you have more than one e-mail address.


RE: An improvement or not?
By corduroygt on 5/12/2010 7:11:09 PM , Rating: 1
I am forced to use Outlook 2007 at work and it's pure dog crap compared to both Mac Mail and Mozilla Thunderbird. And they're both great at handling multiple mail accounts, even smartphones are fine handling multiple mail accounts!

Do a search on your inbox in Outlook and tell me how dog slow it is, tbird and mac mail returns in less than a second while outlook fails to find the message that has the partial text "6606" in it.

I like Excel, Powerpoint, and even Access, and Word can drive me nuts sometimes but it's usable, but Outlook is crap. Unless you have an Exchange server that will let you synchronize everything and enable you to schedule conference rooms, etc, Outlook is crap and not needed for someone who just needs to sync their yahoo and gmail accounts plus maybe another pop3 mail account.


RE: An improvement or not?
By RjBass on 5/12/2010 11:23:38 AM , Rating: 2
Been there, done that. Office 2010 is pretty nice, I love the layout and all the new features, but as I have continued to use it, it has gotten slower and slower, even on newer pc's. I think there are still a few bugs that need to be worked out as last I checked I wasn't the only one with these issues.


RE: An improvement or not?
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 10:30:17 AM , Rating: 5
Personally i really like office '07, at first it took some getting used to but for me it's much nicer after a little use. Then again i can easily adapt to just about whatever i'm in front of so i guess my opinion may be one sided.

I think that office 2010 looks good. as far as competition, when you're selling software that is $100+ and for the more advanced editions $300+ and your competition is GIVING theirs away and yet you still retain 90%+ market share, well that about speaks for itself... doesn't it?


RE: An improvement or not?
By JediJeb on 5/12/2010 7:35:20 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I think that office 2010 looks good. as far as competition, when you're selling software that is $100+ and for the more advanced editions $300+ and your competition is GIVING theirs away and yet you still retain 90%+ market share, well that about speaks for itself... doesn't it?


Not really, how many average users even know about the alternatives? If it isn't on the shelf at WalMart or Best Buy they would never know it exists.


RE: An improvement or not?
By Nekrik on 5/12/2010 7:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
maybe they should use a ballot box on first launch of Office :).

Are you sure you want this amount of functionality? You can almost do the same thing with A. Google Docs, B. OpenOffice C. Star Office D. WordPerfect 1.0.


RE: An improvement or not?
By quiksilvr on 5/12/2010 10:31:59 AM , Rating: 2
You can customize your own ribbons and have multiple commentators edit the same document at the same time without having to send everyone separate copies and merge them together. That alone makes the upgrade worth it.


RE: An improvement or not?
By Dr of crap on 5/12/2010 10:32:49 AM , Rating: 2
Showing your age?


RE: An improvement or not?
By porkpie on 5/12/2010 10:57:18 AM , Rating: 2
Quite probably so.


RE: An improvement or not?
By FaceMaster on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: An improvement or not?
By amanojaku on 5/12/2010 10:40:57 AM , Rating: 3
I don't use Office extensively enough to understand the improvements from 2003 to 2007, but I do know one thing: I HATE THE RIBBONS. I've tried to ignore my initial confusion over the the "Fluent UI", and the stream of complaints other people have expressed. Like you, I gave it two years knowing that I'm a crusty old fart in love with a 10+ year old habit. But I hate the current implementation of the Fluent UI. Would it have been so hard to include themes, with a theme that looked and behaved like the classic Office UI?


RE: An improvement or not?
By ImSpartacus on 5/12/2010 11:00:17 AM , Rating: 2
If you used it for more than 10 minutes, you'd discover the custom toolbar at the top.

Every command that would've been on a number of Office 2003 toolbars, all in one toolbar.


RE: An improvement or not?
By Mitch101 on 5/12/2010 1:01:44 PM , Rating: 5
These same people just figured out Office 4.3's interface and Microsoft has the nerve to change it in 2007. Well if they are going to change the GUI after 15 years why learn the ribbon.

I love the scene in a Bug Life where the leaf falls in the path of the ants and one starts screaming I'M LOST! I deal with that constantly. Thats a good portion of what my IT job is pointing to where it is right in front of them.

I cant explain how many people wont bother to look for themselves or give up so quickly then start complaining or making phone calls. The problem is they have access to someone who knows and it makes them stop thinking for themselves. Same way a lot of people cant recall someones phone number after they programmed it into their cell phone because we trained the phone to remember for us.


RE: An improvement or not?
By Chernobyl68 on 5/12/2010 5:41:37 PM , Rating: 2
While the custom toolbar may allow you access to some buttons, it doesn't do anything towards re-organizing the menu structure which is all f'd up from before.


RE: An improvement or not?
By TheHarvester on 5/12/2010 11:31:11 AM , Rating: 2
I'll be honest-- the ribbons, while purportedly easier to use and more intuitive, have been hard to adjust to over time. When I found the "Search Command" add on from Microsoft Labs, which literally, instantly, saved me hours upon hours of time, and helped me navigate the new interface. I don't understand how it isn't a standard install on ALL workplace computers... for all the older folks still used to the normal Edit>Paragraph>this and that style menus, it's a godsend. I witnessed three people working together for about 10 minutes the other day to try and find "undo" in Office 2007 (I couldn't resist waiting to see how long it took them). With Search Commands, you click the search tab, type undo, and it pops up. And, you can hover over it and the tooltip tells you where it's located in the ribbon structure, to help you learn for the future. Sorry if I sound like an ad here, but it's one of the most under-utilized features of Office that makes insane boosts to productivity for the average workplace.

http://www.officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/...


RE: An improvement or not?
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 12:34:45 PM , Rating: 2
undo = ctrl + z, hasn't changed a bit and it's the same in EVERY program :-)

it's just a new interface... i don't know what all the fuss is about. it's not that hard to learn, sure there are some things that i had trouble finding at first but i'd have to shoot myself if i had trouble with something as trivial as "undo"

hell the icon for it is right there in front of your face on the (3 icon by default) custom tool bar!

i'm not going to say the interface isn't hard to get used to if you were an experienced user of the old interface, but seriously i think some people just aren't even trying.


RE: An improvement or not?
By DanNeely on 5/12/2010 2:41:51 PM , Rating: 2
If you really want the classic UI in office 2007 there's an addin that replicates the menu/toolbars as a new ribbon tab.

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/


ms office 2010 vs open office
By 1crazywolf on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 3:16:06 PM , Rating: 5
Open Office is NOT a viable replacement for MS Office unless you just specifically hate MS. MS office has far more feature wise than Open Office. As I said before I only recommend Open Office to 2 groups of people.

1. People to cheap to by MS office, which is understandable.
2. People on Linux/Unix/etc. as there is no MS office on those platforms.

Other than that, MS office all the way.

Yes, open office is nice and I'm sure many people out there could make due with it; however, it just doesn't compare with MS Office. It's literally the difference between the Gimp and Photoshop... anyone in professional photo editing would tell you which they'd prefer.


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By jimhsu on 5/12/2010 3:52:10 PM , Rating: 2
Openoffice calc is just -- sad. I tried using it for actual work and it was frustrating.

1. 65K row limit. Um.. seriously? A 1/4th of my dataset is longer than that. I heard Openoffice 3 bumped this up, but still.

2. Horrible custom error bar support. No try it, make a graph and try to display custom error bars.

3. Horrible PivotTables implementation. I actually use this.

4. Solver? (heard this is actually an add-in for 3, so congrats).

5. Plugin support - the killer. For example, I have some apps that require Monte Carlo simulation for modeling economic systems. With Excel, I type in "excel monte carlo" and get thousands of results to useful plugins. With open office, I type in "openoffice monte carlo" and get a bunch of forum posts asking how to port the Excel plugin over. I think that says a lot for developer support.


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By JediJeb on 5/12/2010 7:18:07 PM , Rating: 4
That is fine if you need all that stuff, but 90% of the people using it probably don't. In our lab maybe 4 out of 50 people need advanced functions, the rest of us type up a one or two page memo, make a spread sheet to do simple calculations and that's about it. Problem is the HR guy puts out the time sheets in docx format and another Admin puts out forms in the same format so everyone in the company needs to have MSOffice07 to be able to fill them out. Huge waste of money buying all those licenses for 50 people when we barely need Wordpad.

I tried to get our IT guy to get OpenOffice but he refuses because there is no tech support. But then he would buy MS stuff even if it didn't work. He actually blocked the OpenOffice webpages so we can't even browse them and see what is new.

I usually do all my work at home on OpenOffice and just bring the files back to work in excel format and noone ever knows the difference, it does everything I need it to and more.


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By jarman on 5/18/2010 12:25:43 AM , Rating: 2
If you're using Microsoft Excel for Monte Carlo simulations of anything, then you have bigger problems than the shortcomings of OpenOffice.org.


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By alcalde on 5/18/2010 8:30:08 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, you said it, but never justified it. You're making Apple fanboys look rational. And people down-voting someone to -1 for saying that like OpenOffice? Seriously?


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By mckinney on 5/12/2010 7:10:47 PM , Rating: 4
Ok, this is funny

quote:
Why is Microsoft Office so expensive? Ask Bing [Pic]


http://i.imgur.com/zs3cM.png


RE: ms office 2010 vs open office
By semo on 5/13/2010 6:49:18 AM , Rating: 1
Who cares???
By frobizzle on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares???
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 10:55:24 AM , Rating: 2
windows 95 is also comparatively smaller than windows 7. hey, there's an idea use WordPad, who needs and office sweet with WordPad around! WordPad and a dictionary, ya know, for spellcheck! man that's like the smallest office software ever!

in a world where a 500gb hard disk is less that $50.00 and 4 gigs of ram is so cheap new computers are shipping with it by default... are we really that strapped for resources that we cant run an OFFICE suite!?

Your either:
1. useing a dinosaur computer
2. very cheap (see above)
3. a resouce nazi!

photoshop i can understand, that thing is such a hog that it takes lots of time to even open, MS office opens in seconds and runs beautifully on any modern computer.


RE: Who cares???
By frobizzle on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares???
By Luticus on 5/12/2010 12:20:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
without having a clue about me, you display the maturity of a grade school student.


Interesting that you take such offense to an obviously sarcastic post. usually i include my <sarcasm> tags but people tell me there's no need too. Now i know that there is in fact a need.

you say i know nothing about you but you've provided obvious clues such as that you're still using office 95. if there's no compelling reason to upgrade for YOU then thats great, you obviously shouldn't upgrade as you apparently do little more than word processing and maybe some spreadsheets on the side. For someone like me (and people like me aren't that rare) who do the least bit of web editing, advanced word processing, financial people (excel), or anyone who works in an office of any sort (outlook at the very least), these people would be quite interested in the newer features.

For the reccord, my statment:
quote:
Your either:
1. useing a dinosaur computer
2. very cheap (see above)
3. a resouce nazi!

was a conditional in which one of the conditions was correct (true) making the statement entirely valid (thank you for owning up to it). My statement wasn't some random slander that i pulled out of nowhere, it was an educated guess based on information from your prior post, and obviously a good one at that!

My post was obviously sarcastic because yes i can see why SOME people wouldn't want to upgrade because they can "function" just fine on older software, but i think it's safe to say that the vast majority would be unhappy if they were still working on pre office 2000 editions... hell I'm unhappy working on pre office 2003 editions. ever since i switched to 07 i really don't want to look back and i think there's a large majority out there who would agree with me.


RE: Who cares???
By Etsp on 5/12/2010 5:24:56 PM , Rating: 2
Don't use office for web editing... Just... don't.


RE: Who cares???
By psypher on 5/12/2010 10:55:57 AM , Rating: 2
If you don't need the new features, or they won't make you more productive, then you shouldn't upgrade.

Personally, I am loving Outlook 2010, SharePoint Workspace is a breath of fresh air after a couple years using Groove, using formulas in Excel is significantly easier (I have found so many formulas because I just hoped they were there since the formula navigation is so simple - it has made financial modeling significantly easier at work). I'm more productive in word, and the changes to Access since 2003 don't piss me off, which is enough for me.

I don't get why most people bitch about upgrades to office... 90% of the people complaining don't even use office to its full potential. If you use it as a business tool as opposed to just using it for basic word processing and simple spread sheets, you would discover that most of the changes made are a major boost to productivity. The only hitch is occasionally relearning keyboard shortcuts (all my Wall Street trained coworkers hated that at first, but got over it pretty quick because they are smart capable people - now they love the new versions).


RE: Who cares???
By RjBass on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares???
By xler8r on 5/12/2010 1:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
Let me just tack on to this.
College students at any half decent school now are required to learn the MS suite in a class. In most cases, the class's directed study is for advanced usage of such programs.

In short, if your a college student/graduate within the past 5 years, your probably making usage of these advanced options as before said.
Even more so, most desk jobs that need a degree to do, will require usage of these advanced functions.
Yep.


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