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President Obama will meet up today with three of the tech industry's top visionaries -- Google CEO Eric Schmidt, Apple CEO Steve Jobs, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg.  (Source: Geek Daily)
President will discuss how to promote "innovation" with top tech luminaries

On Thursday in San Francisco, U.S. President Barack Obama plans to hold meetings with some of the tech industry's top names.  

According to the White House Press secretary [press release], "In the evening, the President will meet with a number of business leaders in technology and innovation at a private residence. The meeting is a part of our ongoing dialogue with the business community on how we can work together to win the future, strengthen our economy, support entrepreneurship, and get the American people back to work. The President and the business leaders will discuss our shared goal of promoting American innovation and discuss his commitment to new investments in research and development, education and clean energy."

Among those leaders he will be speaking with is Eric Schmidt.  Though Mr. Schmidt will be stepping down as Google's CEO later this year, he has orchestrated a brilliant smartphone campaign, propelling Google to the top spot in sales worldwide on an OS basis.

Mr. Schmidt has never been afraid to voice his mind.  Recently he expressed strong support of Google executive Wael Ghonim, who used the company's influence and technology to help Egyptian protestors to successfully organize and oust president/dictator Hosni Mubarak.

Another key tech figure meeting with the president will be Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg.  Despite public outcry over privacy problems and a less than favorable depiction in the recent blockbuster The Social Network, Mr. Zuckerberg remains perhaps the tech industry's most influential under-30 player.

And Mr. Obama is also expected to meet with Apple founder Steve Jobs.  If you've heard the National Enquirer's predictions of his impending demise, it appears they may be a bit off the mark.

Mr. Jobs, currently on medical leave, should be plenty healthy to talk to the president.  He should be returning to familiar territory for the meeting.  San Francisco is his typical stomping ground for product announcements.

The meeting will be the second between the President and Mr. Jobs on the economy in the past several months.

Last, but not least, the president is expected to meet with his chairman of the new White House Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt.

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Last I checked....
By Hieyeck on 2/17/2011 10:20:21 AM , Rating: 4
...Apple wasn't innovative. Ever. The mouse? Bunch of Xerox engineers (at least in the form we know it today) who had their idea shot down by people in the very position that these 3 hold today. Innovations in marketing are about its only claim.

Facebook? Proof that timing is everything. Myspace and various other sites launched before it.

Google was hardly the first search engine.

As the POTUS, why not just visit Area 51 or talk to DARPA :/

RE: Last I checked....
By Bioniccrackmonk on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
RE: Last I checked....
By woofersus on 2/17/2011 10:34:11 AM , Rating: 2
Have you been to Myspace lately? I'm not saying Facebook doesn't have issues to deal with, but Myspace is a black hole.

RE: Last I checked....
By Jeff7181 on 2/17/2011 10:58:18 AM , Rating: 5
Facebook's strength is that drugged up teens can't put flashy animated gifs and 42 videos and 86 songs on the page that all start playing at the same time.

RE: Last I checked....
By CZroe on 2/17/2011 5:19:48 PM , Rating: 5
Dammit!You've been voted up too high for me to add another up-vote. :)

RE: Last I checked....
By StraightCashHomey on 2/18/2011 3:24:36 PM , Rating: 3

RE: Last I checked....
By superPC on 2/17/2011 10:51:01 AM , Rating: 5
or people from IBM, or Microsoft, or other tech company that really do something that moves the technology forward.

this is obviously a publicity stunt. even though IBM has the largest number of patent under their name, even though they just build a computer that can win jeopardy, even after helping build guidance computer that put MAN ON THE MOON, IBM is not a household name. that's why it doesn't get invited. as for MS, they've been doing some amazing stuff with kinect, the next windows, image composite editor, photosynth, and a whole bunch of other stuff from MS labs but still in the public minds they're the bad guys. that's why they're not invited.

boring corporate guys (IBM) and the bad guys (MS) don't sit well with the public and don't generate as much publicity as google, facebook or apple, even if they're the ones that really innovate.

RE: Last I checked....
By Suntan on 2/17/2011 11:46:41 AM , Rating: 2
Pretty much my thoughts when I read this.

The facebook guy, really? What’s he going to offer as far a federal guidance for moving the economy forward.

“Obama, you need to make a federal webpage where anybody can post a sentence that goes something like – ‘I’m watching a movie while eating a bowl if ice cream’ and then, Barack my man. The secret to sustainable long term economic growth… ready for it? You make it possible for some other Joe 6 Pack to add on that, ‘Joe P likes this.’ Bam! Instant fuel for economic expansion!”


RE: Last I checked....
By Wiggy Mcshades on 2/17/2011 2:25:46 PM , Rating: 1
IBM's number of patent's is just proof that they abused the system worse than anyone else. The RISC patent they have/had is an insult to every person who had some sort of academic pursuit. If you want any real advice (that works) you'd find the most pissed off engineers working at one of these companies and ask if any of them think they're being stolen from by showing up to work. The ones that answer yes will be able to tell you exactly how, where, and when to make changes that will positively effect education and innovation. Those are the only two valuable things we can competitively provide in the US for the foreseeable future and there's no CEO on earth who's going to tell you how to change them because it'd end up ruining the system that supports them.

RE: Last I checked....
By mellomonk on 2/17/2011 1:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
Innovation isn't always about being first to think about or prototype something. It can be about making something successful and useful for the first time. Creating and combining ideas and concepts, sometimes new, sometimes not, to create products and services that are useful, inspiring, entertaining. And have others follow your path.

Remember, pioneers get arrows in the backs, settlers get the land.

RE: Last I checked....
By Tony Swash on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
RE: Last I checked....
By Iaiken on 2/17/2011 2:47:15 PM , Rating: 2
Incidentally I assume you are looking at this web site on a PC that allows you see different fonts on the screen, and in a window that can be resized and moved around - both Xerox innovations .


Apple and MS operating systems have always contained technology that was "stolen" from each other and yet others besides as they evolved. Some of this "theft" happened so long ago that the features have become part of the computing landscape.

Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology. Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.

Like it or not Tony, you're wrong again.

RE: Last I checked....
By Tony Swash on 2/18/2011 6:39:25 AM , Rating: 2
Apple and MS operating systems have always contained technology that was "stolen" from each other and yet others besides as they evolved. Some of this "theft" happened so long ago that the features have become part of the computing landscape.

Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology. Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.

Such a tired old meme, almost as tired as the ever popular 'Apple is doomed " meme.

Making something in a lab is not the same as making something that is tens times cheaper, works much better, sells in their millions and actually changes the world - that much should be obvious.

But let's dig a little deeper and explore a little of what Apple 'copied' from Xerox.

When Apple saw the early Xerox GUI at Palo Alto in November 1979 they realised that the GUI was the future but the GUI they saw was hardly anything like the GUI that you and I use all the time. In the Xerox version if you wanted to move or resize a window, in fact if you wanted to pretty much do anything on the screen using the cursor you had to click and invoke a menu and then select the action you wanted to perform. This didn't just apply to window resizing, it applied to moving files (from one folder to another for example), opening a file etc. Everything was done by a menu invoked by a mouse click, nothing was done by using the cursor to directly manipulate objects on the screen.

Apple took the work at Xerox and transformed it into the fundamentals of the GUI grammar that we all use so much we hardly think about it anymore.

So every time you sit at your computer and click and drag something on the screen think of Apple and say a little thank you for their innovation.

Its true that the Apple team, led by Steve Jobs, who were given a tour of the Small Talk and Altos systems at Palo Alto in December 1979, were inspired and took that inspiration into the design of the Lisa and then into the Macintosh. But being inspired is not copying. Van Gogh was inspired by Gauguin but no one describes him as copying Gauguin.

The team from Apple saw the Smalltalk integrated programming environment, with the mouse selecting text, pop-up menus, windows, and so on. The Lisa group at Apple built a system based on their own ideas combined with what they could remember from the Smalltalk demo, and the Mac folks built yet another system. There is a significant difference between using the Mac and Smalltalk.

Smalltalk has no Finder, and no need for one, really. Drag-and- drop file manipulation came from the Mac group, along with many other unique concepts: resources and dual-fork files for storing layout and international information apart from code; definition procedures; drag-and-drop system extension and configuration; types and creators for files; direct manipulation editing of document, disk, and application names; redundant typed data for the clipboard; multiple views of the file system; desk accessories; and control panels, among others. The Lisa group invented some fundamental concepts as well: pull down menus, the imaging and windowing models based on QuickDraw, the clipboard, and cleanly internationalizable software.

Smalltalk had a three-button mouse and pop-up menus, in contrast to the Mac's menu bar and one-button mouse. Smalltalk didn't even have self-repairing windows - you had to click in them to get them to repaint, and programs couldn't draw into partially obscured windows. Bill Atkinson did not know this, so he invented regions as the basis of QuickDraw and the Window Manager so that he could quickly draw in covered windows and repaint portions of windows brought to the front.

As you may be gathering, the difference between the Xerox system architectures and Macintosh architecture is huge; much bigger than the difference between the Mac and Windows. It's not surprising, since Microsoft saw quite a bit of the Macintosh design (API's,sample code, etc.) during the Mac's development from 1981 to 1984; the intention was to help them write applications for the Mac, but it also gave their system designers a template from which to eventually design Windows.

RE: Last I checked....
By Iaiken on 2/18/2011 10:14:24 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't say that they copied it.

Long before any of that, the GUI was a invented by engineers over at Xerox for the PARC; Apple merely licensed the technology . Microsoft then "stole" the idea of licensing the technology from Xerox and Apple as well for the privilege of bringing Windows 1.0 to the world.

I've added boldness in an effort to counteract your inability to read and comprehend.

Without the licensing agreement from Xerox extending them express permission to go ahead, there is a good chance that Apple would have been sued into oblivion. I'm fine with giving credit where credit is due and like I said, there are features from all manner of OS that have since become ubiquitous parts of the computing landscape.

Tips for next time Tony:

1. Read each sentence within the context of the paragraph
2. Understand what you are reading
3. Write a response was written, not to what you wish were written.

Fail again Tony... fail again...

RE: Last I checked....
By sleepeeg3 on 2/17/2011 11:40:36 PM , Rating: 2
Pillars of innovation, those three. Fits right in with the pillar of fiscal responsibility...

Eh, Schmidt may be worth his salt. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Not helping his rep, though.

RE: Last I checked....
By callmeroy on 3/10/2011 3:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry for the necro of the thread...but I just found it!

Anyway...yeah what you say might have some truth behind it...but .....

yet all three of those guys are worth BILLIONS and if they wanted to stop working tomorrow they could and just relax the rest of their lives and still die financially better off than any of us here in this thread can ever dream to be...

Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By XZerg on 2/17/2011 11:07:29 AM , Rating: 5
Holy talk about burning the guys whose company drives most of the computers in the world...

RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By SSDMaster on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By Gary Oak on 2/17/2011 11:46:56 AM , Rating: 4
because facebook, google and apple never "take others ideas and make them work" right

RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By SSDMaster on 2/17/2011 12:38:13 PM , Rating: 1
Microsoft didn't even create DOS. They bought it and added onto it. I never said facebook, google, and apple never used others ideas. Though they at least had a few original ones even if it was just taking an MP3 player and making it shiny.

RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By XZerg on 2/17/2011 2:53:36 PM , Rating: 2
hahaha... So M$ bought DOS and added few things to it; Apple took mp3 player and made it shiny... The difference of sky and earth :p

Anyhow read what I said - the company that drives most of the computers world wide, not just a small percentage of population.

I am not disputing why Apple/Google/FB were worthy or not, but why skip these guys.

RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By KoolAidMan1 on 2/17/2011 3:40:09 PM , Rating: 2
Gates' innovation was, six years after the Macintosh with Windows 3.0, having a GUI based operating system that could go on any PC. The initial innovation of popularizing GUIs wasn't his, and it likely wouldn't have happened without Apple taking the core concepts from Xerox, improving upon them, and releasing them to the mass market.

And Ballmer? Give me a break, you want to talk about luck, if it wasn't for his buddy Bill he'd still be selling soap at P&G. The man is not a technologist, he is the epitome of the MBA running the company who has zero clue about technology or design.

RE: Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer?!?!
By B3an on 2/18/2011 5:18:22 AM , Rating: 2
But Gates actually coded and created things by himself. Jobs cant do any of this stuff, that was all Steve Wozniak. Jobs just added the smoke, mirrors and marketing. Without Woz Apple would not exist.

steve jobs?
By Murloc on 2/17/2011 10:45:37 AM , Rating: 2
didn't he have 6 weeks to live?

RE: steve jobs?
By SSDMaster on 2/17/2011 11:02:41 AM , Rating: 2
You need to stop reading the national inquirer.

RE: steve jobs?
By radicledog on 2/17/2011 12:32:20 PM , Rating: 5
Are you crazy... the enquirer is the only news outlet left that speaks any truth. That and TMZ.

RE: steve jobs?
By SSDMaster on 2/17/2011 12:40:17 PM , Rating: 2
The inquirer is pretty awesome, but still their not reliable enough. Though they are usually the first to publish news, and the most brutally honest about it.

RE: steve jobs?
By thefrozentin on 2/17/2011 1:33:42 PM , Rating: 2
Atleast his sex life was pretty good ;)

RE: steve jobs?
By amanojaku on 2/17/2011 6:23:26 PM , Rating: 2
I call bullsh1t on that. He had pancreatic cancer AND a diseased liver. I'm pretty sure he wasn't having sex that often, or that vigorously. Add to that the fact that he hates porn and I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't even masturbate. On top of that he's a liar: say what you want about Apple's marketing, but Steve actually submitted a signed statement to a court denying paternity of his first child because he was sterile. Steve has four children; if he'll lie to a court he'll lie to anyone about anything...

How to promote innovation
By arazok on 2/17/2011 1:08:44 PM , Rating: 1
1. Get government out of the way. You know, the opposite of what Obama is doing.

RE: How to promote innovation
By mellomonk on 2/17/2011 1:36:47 PM , Rating: 2
The government can be a speedbump or pothole in the road to success sometimes. But allowing the free market to totally reign without guidance can lead us down paths that we maybe shouldn't go as a society. Regulation, when applied correctly and watched over, can balance the needs of business, with the needs of the society. Not to mention a little government seeding can create an entire crop of new industries here in the US, rather then letting the free market locate them offshore, if they get created at all that is.

RE: How to promote innovation
By maven81 on 2/17/2011 1:40:55 PM , Rating: 4
Right, because it wasn't government involvement that created DARPA and paved the way for this little thing we call the internet right? And it wasn't NASA and the Pentagon that used up what, 90% of the chips developed in the 60s?

By umop apisdn on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
By SSDMaster on 2/17/11, Rating: 0
By Flunk on 2/17/2011 10:21:07 AM , Rating: 1
Well, constantly running huge deficits isn't working out so well. There really isn't another option.

By Shig on 2/17/2011 10:39:36 AM , Rating: 1
Obama is hoping these guys have some thoughts on the broader economic picture, because his staff does not, and seemingly no one in Washington does either.

By nikon133 on 2/17/2011 3:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
After this, Farmville will become official White House stress release application.

It will be delivered to employees on Apple Macs or Google Tablets (since iPad doesn't support Flash, dang!).

There you go. Everything works out.

By Gio6518 on 2/17/2011 3:32:24 PM , Rating: 2
More than likely, he wants to meet with Steve Jobs to learn how manipulate people to believe that the government is a good thing, since approval ratings are way down.

Selling old crap, not innovation.
By Tyhr on 2/17/2011 3:40:02 PM , Rating: 2
Replace "innovation" with "how to create fanatically loyal buyers of inferior goods".

Obama isn't looking for innovation. He wants to know how to get the American public to buy into old existing products/ideas. These guys have all done that.

Steve Jobs - has an uncanny ability to create blind followers despite having inferior products. From the current Mac and iPhone back to the days of his black/white Mac being outclassed by machines like the 4096 colored Amiga. All Job's computers are technically inferior products, yet all proved to be financially successful in the end. Why?

Don't get me wrong - I own an iPhone. In fact, it just crashed again today. But when a PC crashes, it's M$'s fault. When a Mac or iPhone crashes, it's just technology in general's fault. How did Steve Jobs convince the public to think this way?

Eric Schmidt - Alta Vista, Excite, Lycos, Yahoo, etc. Why did latecomer "Google" become the standard?

Mark Zuckerberg - myspace came before facebook. Why has facebook become the standard? That, plus he's got recent heat from the movie "The Social Network".

It's not the products that Obama is interested in - it's how to sell them.

By robinthakur on 2/18/2011 6:50:00 AM , Rating: 2
I think you are a bit bitter really because you don't understand the way business works, you're only looking at the technical aspects. The innovation was not just thinking of the ideas, bringing them to market successfully in a form which the public can get excited about, which is actually not easy. Regardless of Apple's PR, the public would still choose their designs because they are nice to look at, technically easy to use and each feature is well explained in human terms they can understand. The fact that they are priced at the higher end and the build quality is generally excellent actually helps the brand.

Bottom line is what you see as inferior products from purely a technical slant are not seen that way by the majority of the buying public. There are two explanation for this gap. One is that Apple's PR and RDF have conned a stupid populace into believing what they want, or you fail to understand the true value of Apple's proposition because you are not their target audience and place value on different things.

If I wanted to build a really powerful gaming PC, I certainly could, buying the best components and overclocking them as I have in the past, then installing the OS and configuring it. The value of my time these days, however, is too great to waste the hours/days, so I bought a Macbook Pro and it does what I want it to. It is not a question of money, it's a qestion what's going o give you the least hassle and choosing appropriately. Having said that, if my experience is a negative one, I will choose differently in the future, regardless of the brand.

By YashBudini on 3/14/2011 6:23:39 PM , Rating: 1
Another clusterfuck in the making.

Will he put the foxes in charge of the hen house?
Stay tuned.

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