President-Elect Obama's transition team is planning to scrap NASA's Ares program, the successor to the Space Shuttle, say NASA advisors. The transition team is demanding deep cuts from the agency, and is investigating whether old military rockets such as the Delta IV and Atlas V could be used in place of Ares.
NASA plans a permanent moon base by 2020, followed by a manned mission to Mars; plans which the agency says require Ares.
The Space Shuttle is due to make its last flight in 2010. Without a replacement, NASA may be without a manned space capability entirely, for the first time since the 1960s, a gap that NASA says would destroy the U.S.'s primacy in space technology.
Prior news reports have hinted at a great deal of tension between Obama's team and NASA, a report that NASA Administrator Michael Griffon has denied.
On the campaign trail, Obama blew both hot and cold on plans for NASA's budget. In the NASA-friendly states of Texas and Florida, he promised to expand NASA's budget by more than 10%. In other states, however, he promised cuts and delays to the agency, in order to help fund his education policies.
Lori Garver, a space policy advisor for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, was selected by Obama to lead the NASA review transition team. Despite being criticized for her lack of an engineering or scientific background, Garver has been called a favorite to be the next NASA Administrator.
Ares program manager Steve Cook says that, with Ares due for its first test flight next summer, halting the program now would be an expensive mistake. "We would be really stepping backwards" by opting for a different launch platform.
Space Historian Andrew Chaikin said that, "Obama's first priority for NASA should be to get the Shuttle's replacement on track".
quote: "The notion of a world war, at this point in time, is far fetched.
quote: your telling me that if the US, Russia, France, and the UK exhausted even 10% of their nuclear arsenal, that there wouldn't be a nuclear winter?
quote: "...on scientific grounds the global apocalyptic conclusions of the initial nuclear winter hypothesis can now be relegated to a vanishingly low level of probability."
quote: I'm calling shenanigans.If a couple of hundred modern warheads were detonated (1 warhead being ~100 megaton),
quote: The billions of Curies of newly formed I-125 and I-131 alone...
quote: What on earth makes you think that there is going to be a major (WWII scale) war within the next 25 years? You do realize that this isn't 1955 don't you?
quote: What good is a 2 million dollar tank if it can be destroyed by a 200 dollar shaped charge being detonated by a 12 year old?
quote: you're saying that wars (or "conflicts") are fought much differently than they used to be?
quote: You're saying that traditional hardware and tactics aren't that useful in a modern battlefield?
quote: 60 years ago we went into a war to kill as many people on the other side as possible and break their will to fight and it was over when they surrenderd. Now we go into a war and try to kill as few people as possible so we don't make them mad at us. That is a job for a police force, a military is there to break things and kill people not patrol the streets of major cities waiting to get shot at so they can respond.
quote: I'm saying that traditional tactics with modern hardware would be far more effective than what we are doing now.
quote: most of it has outlived its usefulness. What good is a 2 million dollar tank if it can be destroyed by a 200 dollar shaped charge being detonated by a 12 year old?
quote: As is, the US military is a inefficiently ran money pit, and most of it has outlived its usefulness. What good is a 2 million dollar tank if it can be destroyed by a 200 dollar shaped charge being detonated by a 12 year old?
quote: It is not a gorilla warfare vehicle.
quote: The size of our military budget *does* reflect the end of the cold war. It's come down 50% since before the Berlin Wall fell, and is less than half what it was in the '50s and '60s.
quote: by sgw2n5 on December 22, 2008 at 12:11 PMMilitary funding is ridiculously excessive. The US spends more on its military than every other nation in the world combined. We should not be expected to be the world's police force, and it is bankrupting us. We should cut our military by 70%, re-distribute 40% of the savings into WPA like programs, and the other 30% to NASA.
quote: Cut the budget of the military by 70%.. you are either a child or tree hugger. Because even the peace nics know that is a receipe for disaster. The world is dangerous, now more than ever with Iran, Syria, China, Russia, and Venezuela. And you want to cut funding to the military???
quote: What the hell was I thinking, going on about having a bloated military and whatnot.
quote: if we're gonna spend so much funking money in the government, let's at least spend it on AMERICANS.
quote: We should cut our military by 70%, re-distribute 40% of the savings into WPA like programs, and the other 30% to NASA.
quote: Nazi Germany was entirely controlled by one person;
quote: Germany was definitely not a stupid country, yet it attacked all its own trading partners, and began wars that decimated its economy and infrastructure beyond belief.
quote: If China attacks one of our allies, their economy disappears. China is definitely not a stupid country.
quote: If Iran attacks one of our allies, the entire world would be on them so fast, it wouldn't matter how big our army was.
quote: It seems silly to me to cut a program that is such a prominent object in other country's minds.
quote: This doesn't sound like cancelling the program to me.
quote: Adequately providing health care and education for all Americans has been clearly proven as something that private citizens and corporations cannot sufficiently do or at least will not. The level of education in this country (and in other countries today) was criminally low prior to compulsory, government run schools.
quote: I'm not saying dont fund NASA at all, but while the rest of the country is taking a pay cut in some way or another, I dont think they should be immune.
quote: Perhaps the government should have thought of the peoples healthcare and education before they went to war in Iraq, and spent hundreds if not thousands more money bi-monthly than the entire NASA budget.
quote: Lori Garver, a space policy advisor for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, was selected by Obama to lead the NASA review transition team. Despite being criticized for her lack of an engineering or scientific background, Garver has been called a favorite to be the next NASA Administrator.
quote: It is better than having another warmonger in office
quote: He would have most likely died in office and pass the highest office in the country to his VP pick.
quote: trying to be the world's police force
quote: America and we as Americans are not liked in the majority of the rest the world.
quote: That is why many have rejoiced in other countries when we as Americans elected yes a black man
quote: they were also against removing saddam from power who was notorious for having people in dungeons being tortured as well as genocide against border tribes.
quote: by bmheiar on December 22, 2008 at 4:38 PMSNIPWhat I am suggesting is that, there was no reason for us to go into Iraq in the first place. Not like there was for Afghanistan. I admit there was reason, proof, evidence & etc., to go into Afghanistan. But what was there for Iraq? Yes we entered Iraq on the WMD decoy, which we found out later that there was none in Iraq. But the most possible scenario about the WMD is that they were shipped & hidden in another country, Syria or Iran anyone.Bush commented that there were no terrorists there before we entered into Iraq, but they are there now. They are there because of US & the old Iraqi regime not in power. And if we leave now, they will be one of the power players fighting for control along with Iran, Syria, anyone from the old Iraqi regime/military or tribal faction & etc. So since we committed ourselves to this, we are going to have to stay for the time being until the government can protect itself from internal/external conflicts.Sometimes don't you kick yourself for a decision you made or doing something or saying something, and then you realize that what you did or said was wrong. Even though you thought that it was the best decision at the time and you thought that you had all available intel (or in some cases not all available intel because it was being withheld by others). I know I have.
quote: On the campaign trail, Obama blew both hot and cold on plans for NASA's budget. In the NASA-friendly states of Texas and Florida, he promised to expand NASA's budget by more than 10%. In other states, however, he promised cuts and delays to the agency, in order to help fund his education policies.
quote: On the campaign trail, Obama blew both hot and cold on plans for NASA's budget. In the NASA-friendly states of Texas and Florida, he promised to expand NASA's budget by more than 10%. In other states, however, he promised cuts
quote: I also think that campaigning should be constrained to the calendar year that they election is taking place in
quote: NASA may be without a manned space capability entirely, for the first time since the 1960s
quote: by FPP on December 22, 2008 at 12:39 PMSNIPThe silver lining here is that private launch initiatives can now look at the Gov't as a real customer like Spacex. Spacex corp. must be doing a dance right now.
quote: I'd judge him much more likely to outsource this to Russia or China
quote: It showed foresight, vision and intelligence,
quote: you'd rather play blame the Democrat, completely ignoring the fact that the last Democrat in office left things (comparatively) in much better shape than the Republican who is currently leaving office.