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OCZ launches new enterprise class SSD

OCZ has updated its Deneva 2 enterprise SSDs by incorporating 19nm toggle mode NAND. The SSD uses 19 nm NAND flash. The new 2.5” SSD family continues to use a 2.5” form-factor and features a SATA III interface.

OCZ says the new Deneva 2 SSDs also use a completely new power architecture design to optimize server backplane functionality. This optimized power architecture also offers enhanced management of in-rush current and power fluctuations. Those features increase the drives performance and give it better endurance, reliability, and better quality.


Deneva 2 uses the LSI SandForce SF-2281 controller that and promises up to 550 MB/s read speeds and up to 520 MB/s write speed. The drive also has random read throughput with 4K blocks of over 45,000 IOPS.
 
The SSD is available in 120 GB, 240 GB, and 480 GB capacities, however pricing for the SSD's is unannounced at this time.

Source: OCZ



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On the way into oblivion
By Gondor on 9/24/2013 1:12:11 PM , Rating: 3
" OCZ launches ..."

That's the problem. Never again; getting shafted twice was quite enough.




RE: On the way into oblivion
By LBID on 9/24/2013 2:22:42 PM , Rating: 3
Amen, brother. After being an unpaid beta-tester for a couple of their SSDs and having their 'support' belittle me for daring to ask for a working product, I'll never buy their trash again. Avoid OCZ drives at all costs!


RE: On the way into oblivion
By Flunk on 9/24/2013 2:54:05 PM , Rating: 3
Really? I loved the intermittent boot issues I had with my OCZ Vertex 2. The mark of quality hardware is when you can't boot your computer up properly from a cold boot!


RE: On the way into oblivion
By superstition on 9/29/2013 12:50:28 PM , Rating: 2
I lost three 240 GB Vertex 2s and finally just stopped using them. So I had to eat the cost of two of the drives.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By AMDftw on 9/24/2013 5:05:08 PM , Rating: 2
I have 4 OCZ SSD's with zero problems. 3 480GB Agility 2 and 1 90GB Agility.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By Moriicon on 9/24/2013 7:25:18 PM , Rating: 2
Remember the Petrol Line from OCZ, I bought a batch of them to go in laptop upgrades, 13 of them, and every one failed!

Also had at least 4 vertex 2 fails as well as several friends have had OCZ drive fails.

Out of every OCZ drives I have touched (And that is quite a few) Only the Agility drives have not failed ( Running 2 x 60GB relegated from a Raid 0 array to Scratch disks for fear they will too go pop)

You only need to look at the massive amount of refurbished OCZ drives for sale (scan.co.uk as an example) to see how un-reliable OCZ is.

NEVER EVER in a Million Years will I touch a OCZ drive.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By bug77 on 9/25/2013 6:26:12 AM , Rating: 2
Ok, some of their products (which aren't sold anymore) had problems. They're ok now. Sure, having just one drive fail on you is enough to make one switch suppliers, but OCZ today is really good. I myself have two Vertex4 drives at home and we have several of them in the office. Not one problem so far.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 12:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
OCZ had a horrible reputation as a DRAM reseller (buy DRAM in bulk from Tier 1 DRAM makers, rebrand them, and sell them). That rep was passed onto their power supplies (ohai dere, B-stock Modstream!) and SSDs (stealth changes to components without notice, horrible firmware, and the stuff lasts maybe a year... IF you're lucky).

Corsair did much better than that.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By bug77 on 9/25/2013 2:59:54 PM , Rating: 2
What are you smoking? OCZ was one of the best DRAM makers on the market. Everybody rebranded someone else's chips since only Samsung and Micron actually built any. PSU's are rebranded, too. Gee, you haven't heard about OEMs until today?


RE: On the way into oblivion
By ritualm on 9/25/2013 5:34:37 PM , Rating: 2
No, they weren't - unless you live on the performance bleeding edge. From the way you wrote your posts, you don't belong in their target audience either, so what are you blithering about?

Plextor is better known for its optical drives than SSDs, and even they built a better rep in a few years than OCZ ever did for double that time period.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By zeve on 9/25/2013 3:52:02 PM , Rating: 2
It depends on how you see it...

I had 3xVertex 2 drives out of which 2 failed. I tried to broke the 3rd one without success (removing the drive while flashing it...overcharging its 5V input with 12 V and other things -> that's how and SSD is supposed to be - reliable, unbreakable), and now I have a Vertex 4 - zero problems in 2 years.

So yeah...they were bad...but I think with their Indillix 'inside' developed controller are much more reliable. Plus, they and Intel are the only manufacturers ( AFAIK - don't stone me) that offer 5 years warranty for their driver (OCZ only for Vertex 4 and Vector).


RE: On the way into oblivion
By flyingpants1 on 9/25/2013 8:34:03 AM , Rating: 2
So you won at Russian roulette, congratulations. Jesus, how could you possibly think this is a good thing to post in any way.

Of course there will be some people whose OCZ SSDs didn't fail. The point is the mass failures and poor support. Other companies generally don't have that.

Don't buy OCZ.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By Darksurf on 9/28/2013 4:23:40 PM , Rating: 2
I've put several OCZ vertex 4's into production machines and now own an OCZ Vector for my personal machine. I love them. 5yr warranty, no issues so far.

Saying that, I must admit. had a friend buy a agility 2 and it came DOA. I had him switch to vertex 3 (they had been out a while). No issues for him either.


RE: On the way into oblivion
By palmira_friend on 9/25/2013 3:34:21 PM , Rating: 1
my parents inlaw just got a 2013 Audi TT Convertible by working part time off of a computer. additional info.......... http://fave.co/18pfsID


Where's the VNAND?
By techxx on 9/24/2013 11:53:03 AM , Rating: 2
NAND is so 2012...




RE: Where's the VNAND?
By amanojaku on 9/24/2013 12:58:00 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung is the first, and apparently only, company to have begun mass production of V-NAND. It started in August, so first generation products will likely pop up next year.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/samsungs-3d...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7203/samsungs-3d-ver...

Don't forget, Crossbar is claiming it's RRAM solution is a viable NAND competitor, although we have yet to see working silicon...

http://www.dailytech.com/How+Silicon+Valleys+BestK...


RE: Where's the VNAND?
By techxx on 9/24/2013 1:22:26 PM , Rating: 2
Good links. The bottom line is that OCZ just released a new lineup using NAND which is going obsolete quickly.


RE: Where's the VNAND?
By Reclaimer77 on 9/24/2013 2:24:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Samsung is the first, and apparently only, company to have begun mass production of V-NAND.


That's because they invented it.


RE: Where's the VNAND?
By amanojaku on 9/24/2013 3:18:40 PM , Rating: 2
Sort of. Charge trapping NAND was first created by AMD and Fujitsu (Spansion) back in 2002. And the original technology was created in 1967 by H.A.R. Wegener.

http://blog.spansion.com/tag/charge-trap-technolog...

Samsung has done a lot of work enhancing the technology in order to create V-NAND. Toshiba has also worked on it (2007), and seems to have started before Samsung (2009).

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_06/pr120...
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/200908...

And 3D memory was developed as early as 1999, by Matrix Semiconductor.

http://www.cypress.com/?rID=889

I'm sure you can find other companies or academic institutions that played around with this stuff even earlier. Samsung is simply the first company that claims to have gotten it to work.


Interesting
By bug77 on 9/24/2013 12:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
SF-2200 line is not aimed at enterprises, SF-2500/2600 is.




RE: Interesting
By ritualm on 9/24/2013 2:48:48 PM , Rating: 2
This "PR" is awfully misleading. It's not even aimed towards the enterprise market - all of this is to mislead the potential customer to buy a prone-to-fail OCZ product over a proven-dependable competitor's product.

To sum it more clearly: OCZ is selling a "slightly more reliable" (as per their claims) "enterprise-class" (read: higher performance than typical consumer drives, but merely competitive against similar offerings from the likes of Corsair and Plextor) SSD using the same old tired SandForce controllers.


RE: Interesting
By Flunk on 9/24/2013 2:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
They needed some way to get rid of all those controllers left over from the Vertex 3.

I'm not even really sure this qualifies as a new product. OCZ is the master of taking the same product, hacking one small firmware parameter or NAND package and marketing it as a new product.


I dunno
By Ammohunt on 9/24/2013 2:05:05 PM , Rating: 2
I hope their enterprise products are better than their consumer products. I am on my second RMA in 3 years for two vertex 2 drives i bougth a few years back. I would never put anything important on these drives..




RE: I dunno
By bill.rookard on 9/24/2013 6:50:56 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah - I prefer Crucial M4's for most of my stuff. Are they the fastest drives? Nope. Rock solid though, and I have never had a single issue except for the 5000 hour bug which was simple enough to correct with a simple firmware update.


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