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OCZ Solid 3  (Source: OCZ)

OCZ Agility 3  (Source: OCZ)
SSDs have impressive performance

OCZ is putting lots of money and effort into the SSD market. This comes after OCZ vacated some of the markets it was known for like computer RAM to focus more on SSDs and other emerging tech. The move has proven to be good for the company with the popularity of SSDs growing at a very fast pace.

OCZ has announced the addition of two new SSD lines to its portfolio. The new lines include the 2.5-inch Solid 3 SATA III SSD and the Agility 3 SATA III SSD. Both of the SSDs are designed to cater to the needs and wants of the computer enthusiast and gamer. OCZ claims that the new SSDs offer twice the performance of the previous versions and are more cost effect than current 6Gbps SSDs on the market today.

“With increased availability of SATA III platforms, the demand for the latest generation SSDs has grown rapidly,” said Ryan Petersen, CEO of OCZ technology Group. “We are addressing this demand with new products that offer both the best performance and value for consumers. The new Agility 3 and Solid 3 SSDs make it easier than ever for consumers take advantage of the new SATA III interface. When coupled with the speed and reliability benefits that our SSDs offer over traditional hard drives, it makes the two new series the ideal choices for mobile and desktop applications.”

Both of the SSDs use the SandForce SF-2200 SSD processor and have impressive performance. The Agility 3 SSD is capable of 525MB/s reads and 500MB/s writes with up to 50,000 4KB random write IOPS. The Solid 3 is a more value oriented SSD with 500MB/s reads and 450MB/s writes with 20,000 4KB random write IOPS per second. The new SSDs will come in 60GB, 120GB, and 240GB capacities. Both SSDs also have TRIM support and a 3-year warranty.

Back in March, OCZ acquired fabless controller company Indilinx to further bolster its SSD efforts.



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Good but
By room200 on 5/10/2011 12:50:29 PM , Rating: 3
I'm using SSD's now as my boot drive. I think we won't get full integration until we're talking about terabyte drives at less than 200 bucks. Good start though.




RE: Good but
By kensiko on 5/10/2011 1:04:27 PM , Rating: 2
I would say in 4 years.

We are currently almost at 300$ for 240GB.


RE: Good but
By MooseMuffin on 5/10/2011 1:28:00 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not paying more than $200 for a drive, and I'm not buying a drive that's smaller than 150gb. Looks like its going to take at least one more generation.


RE: Good but
By Souka on 5/10/2011 2:16:12 PM , Rating: 2
But how massive and inexpensive with HDD be compared to a 1TB SSD?

1TB SSD = $200
6TB HDD = $75?

For me....I'll be runnign SSD+HDD setup in desktops for now and in the future...


RE: Good but
By Gungel on 5/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Good but
By therealnickdanger on 5/10/2011 3:12:41 PM , Rating: 4
I think people are just spoiled by the incredibly low cost of large HDDs.

For a little perspective, turn your "way back machine" to 2004 (or was it 2005?). I bought two WD 10,000 RPM Raptors for nearly $500 total (on sale from Newegg!) and put them in RAID-0. I'm pretty sure they were the 36GB versions. So ~69GB for $500. The point?

For the same price today, a single $500 SSD will buy you about 4X the storage and 10X the overall performance of that old "Raptor RAID". For the cutting edge, it was worth it then, it's worth it now.


RE: Good but
By seamonkey79 on 5/10/2011 3:23:17 PM , Rating: 2
Or they could simply think that SSDs are really expensive for the capacity on them, regardless of whether they know how to set up the system or not.

I'm not paying that much for a drive that can hardly hold the OS by itself, never mind the fact that I want my programs and games on it as well... which takes up almost 100GB combined. I'm not paying $200+ for a drive that's 75-90% full with just what I have now, leaving no room to grow.

Give me a 250GB SSD for less than $200 and I'll start being interested, until then it's an expensive toy, not a tool.


RE: Good but
By icanhascpu on 5/10/2011 5:29:46 PM , Rating: 2
Its an expensive toy regardless. Difference between want and need.


RE: Good but
By baconsnake on 5/11/2011 3:33:29 PM , Rating: 2
True, but hasn't that really always been the case in the consumer market?


RE: Good but
By kensiko on 5/10/2011 3:16:05 PM , Rating: 2
A full SSD computer is my dream :)

Just thinking of the time it takes to defrag, format, copy files, scan for virus a 6TB HDD makes me impatient.

I will keep HDD, but only for backups, nothing else. I will use a SSD for storage in my day to day usage, and HDD for nightly backups that I would only access for restoring files or images.


RE: Good but
By bug77 on 5/10/2011 5:52:37 PM , Rating: 3
Add to that no optical drive. Just Flash. A computer with no moving parts, other than fans. Neat.


RE: Good but
By timbotim on 5/11/2011 9:52:51 AM , Rating: 2
Brazos platofrm (say asus E35M1-M, no need to use the supplied fan, it stays cool enough) with SSD and Nexus NX-VALUE-430 PSU. The PSU fan never turns on. Only the electrons move; as you say, neat!


RE: Good but
By hsew on 5/12/2011 9:50:10 AM , Rating: 2
Why stop there? Heck, we have fanless PSUs, and a core i3 2100T could most likely run with a passive heatsink!


NAND
By Gungel on 5/10/2011 2:21:51 PM , Rating: 2
Any word on what kind of MLC NAND in those drives? Brand and density?




RE: NAND
By kensiko on 5/10/2011 2:29:18 PM , Rating: 2
From what I know it's 25nm IMFT. Only the controller is slower.


RE: NAND
By Drag0nFire on 5/10/2011 4:49:31 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get it though. How are the controllers different. Is it just an artificial limitation placed in the firmware?


RE: NAND
By kensiko on 5/10/2011 6:44:41 PM , Rating: 2
Agility3 and Solid3 got the same hardware. I suppose the firmware is different.


RE: NAND
By ekv on 5/11/2011 4:50:18 AM , Rating: 2
That doesn't really make sense though. Why would you make a product that's exactly the same hardware-wise, and the only difference is that the firmware is crippled?

Unless the underlying hardware has been tested -- controllers and/or MLC -- and is not quite in the top-tier bin. But even then, would there be a large cost differential?


RE: NAND
By bug77 on 5/11/2011 5:10:08 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
That doesn't really make sense though. Why would you make a product that's exactly the same hardware-wise, and the only difference is that the firmware is crippled?


Because then you don't need different production lines?


RE: NAND
By semo on 5/11/2011 11:57:58 AM , Rating: 2
Intel and AMD do this all the time. Especially AMD who have almost no physical difference across their entire lineup of desktop CPUs (except for the Thuban).

A lot of people find SF's firmware games annoying as you can't figure out what you're buying until you find out which of the 6 firmware versions you are getting.


RE: NAND
By Mr Perfect on 5/11/2011 1:31:03 PM , Rating: 2
OCZ is already doing this with their Vertex 3 line. They have regular Vertex 3s and then they have even faster Vertex 3 Max IO drives. These are the same idea, just moving in the opposite direction.


Recent reviews comparing Disc HDD to SSD?
By XZerg on 5/10/2011 2:40:50 PM , Rating: 2
The thing that many of the reviewers have forgotten is to include a disc hdd when reviewing SSDs. Not all people have shifted from the disc based or even tested a SSD. So to understand the difference between how a disc based drive performs compared to SSD for various tasks would be a good to have. I realize that SSD would blow away the dHDD when looking at random IOs but for most other activities how bad is it for dHDD?

Would appreciate if someone can link a review that has Sandforce SSD (even the Sata 2 version) which includes a dHDD.




RE: Recent reviews comparing Disc HDD to SSD?
By kensiko on 5/10/2011 3:17:48 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Recent reviews comparing Disc HDD to SSD?
By XZerg on 5/10/2011 4:06:29 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't notice any disc HDDs in the review... any other links?


By kensiko on 5/10/2011 6:41:37 PM , Rating: 2
Ah I thought it was it all benches, it seems not.

At least, you can see here: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t...

After that I suppose storagereview would have some benches.


By Mr Perfect on 5/11/2011 1:34:05 PM , Rating: 2
Anandtech usually throws a couple hard drives into their SSD reviews. Just today they've put together a Z68 article comparing SSDs, HDs, and SSD+HD hybrid arrays. Check it out.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chips...


More segmentation? Idiotic company
By Taft12 on 5/10/2011 4:09:24 PM , Rating: 2
Is there really a need for Vertex 3, Agility 3, Solid 3 at (I'm sure) many different capacities? Why so many SKUs?

If this is anything like their last generation, there will be a $10 difference at most between those lines at the same capacities.

Finally, heavy reliance on MIRs and weaselling out of paying up (and frequently changing "MIR handling partner companies" ie. we're one step ahead of the suckers at the Better Business Bureau) makes OCZ a company whose failure I would welcome.




RE: More segmentation? Idiotic company
By Fritzr on 5/10/2011 5:12:03 PM , Rating: 3
There is also no sense in PATA, SATA, SCSI etc. multiple connection standards ... settle on one and throw the rest away.

With HDD drives why are there 5400, 7200, 10k, 15k speeds ... select one and abandon the others.

500GB+ drives are available in notebook & desktop sizes why do they continue to make anything smaller. Build the biggest and scrap the rest.

Even better abandon the 3.5" & 1.8" form factors and fix the 2.5" height at 9mm. This will solve so many problems in selecting the correct form factor that it is worth the loss of very high capacities for large equipment and drives that will fit in pocket devices.

They also need to remove CD&DVD drives from the market. There are now BD drives that will read/write all the formats.

There is absolutely no reason buyers should be allowed to choose hardware that fits their needs, they should always buy the maximum available.

Unless you agree with the above you may wish to rethink your opening statement and look for another hook to hang your attack on.


By tfk11 on 5/16/2011 10:22:02 AM , Rating: 2
Try commietech.com or hardwarerape.com for all your mandated hardware news.


SandForce panic-lock fix?
By sleepeeg3 on 5/10/2011 11:50:45 PM , Rating: 2
So did they fix the encryption "feature" of SandForce drives causing them to become irrecoverably panic-locked with complete loss of data anytime there was an issue? This was resulting in many vanishing Vertex 2 & Agility 2 drives on their forums...

OCZ is not the only SandForce manufacturer to have the problem, but probably the most popular. Last I checked, the issue was being ignored.

Also considering they recently deceived users by switching to slower, less reliable 25nm flash drives without buyer's knowledge, is room for concern. In addition to this, they were sued for fraud for misrepresenting their financial growth and for their CEO failing to disclose a criminal background involving charges of theft, drug violations, and forgery.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4256/the-ocz-vertex-...
http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2011-04/bears-sla...




RE: SandForce panic-lock fix?
By semo on 5/11/2011 12:01:35 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, OCZ suck but all is forgiven and forgotten somehow. Ever since Anand said OCZ are ok, everyone just ignored the fact that the "listening OCZ" never even issued a recall of the nerfed drives.

At least they won't be getting my $ or recommendation...


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