it comes to internet purchases, you're supposed to
individually list them on your yearly tax return and then pay back
sales taxes to the state. Of course, few people do this.
Now the government of North Carolina and other
states are battling Amazon.com
and other e-tailers to get these records.Amazon.com this
suit against the North Carolina state government --
specifically, the Department of Revenue (DOR) -- claiming that
the state's demand for records of virtually every North Carolina
resident who has purchased anything from Amazon since 2003 was
not only unreasonable, but a violation of privacy.Amazon
writes in a filing for the case, "In re: Amazon.com LLC vs
Kenneth R. Lay", Case No. 10-00664, U.S. District Court, Western
District of Washington, "[T]he DOR has no business seeking to
uncover the identity of Amazon's customers who purchased expressive
content, which makes up the majority of the nearly 50 million
products sold to North Carolina residents during the audit
period."If the case is lost, Amazon may have to turn
over the records of millions of its customers in North Carolina.
Those individuals who purchased from Amazon (but did not report their
purchase on their tax returns) might be audited and face civil
penalties. At the very least, they would likely be expected to repay
back taxes on the items they failed to report to the government.In
North Carolina, failing to pay state sales taxes is handled as a
civil infraction. Under the codes
105 236(5)c. and 105 236(5)a., citizens can face additional
fines for dodging state taxes. The penalty would likely be to
pay 25 percent more tax, except on small items, which would require
taxpayers to pay only an additional 10 percent fine.The fight
is the latest in the growing trend of states hungering for internet
tax revenue. Many states have passed or are debating laws that
digital downloads such as those offered by Amazon, Steam,
Apple's iTunes store, or others. While many in the public have
complained about excessive taxation on the federal level, it is
actually the states that have been pushing the most for bigger taxes
of late. The federal government has made some mild efforts
taxation of the internet.
quote: I just don't understand the constant need for the government to steel from it's citizens
quote: Hell, they subsidise entire industries (Farming anyome?) to keep them economically viable. Hell, farming subsidies may cost several hundred billion, but they do increase the supply of food, driving down prices for everyone else. Of course, since we dont "see" where the money is going, we yell about how much we pay (which is still less then any other western nation).
quote: Of course, our two biggest expenses are Medicare/Medicade and Military Spending, and one party in particular has made it clear that we can never under any circumstances cut funding for those two entities, so where exactly does that leave us?
quote: Maybe people should start looking in the mirror before asking why government doesn't work right...government in a democracy mirrors its people, after all.
quote: Why does the government knowingly pay 10 times the going rate for contracted services when the people doing the work could get paid the same if they would be hired by the government directly? Why is it that we don't see government looking at COSTS as the reason for budget problems, rather than on just looking at increasing tax revenue dollars as the solution?
quote: So you think the money the government spends dissapear into the air? The billions of dollars in the annual budget that you might consider "waste" are in actuality funding millions of jobs.
quote: If government was reduced to the bare essentials, measures like sales taxes would like be unnecessary.
quote: But seriously UMMMM it's called taxes... you realize that's how governments pay for the things their citizens demand from them, like roads and schools and police, right?
quote: Whether I have to pay sales tax or not on something is a major factor in where I choose to buy.
quote: If I stole $5 from the corner gas station every day for a year, then on the 366th day when I got caught do you think I'd say something like "...but I've stolen $5 from you every day for a year - you should just let me keep doing it!"
quote: However, the fact that you got away with breaking this law in the past doesn't mean you should expect to be able to get away with breaking it in the future.
quote: All I've been doing is explaining the law, and giving a 100% perfect analogy. Not paying taxes is the same thing as theft from the government.
quote: It's amazing that you think the fact that a law isn't enforced is the same as granting you the privelege to break it. Even more so that if a law exists but you don't know about it...apparently you think that means you get to break that law?
quote: So if I didn't know it was illegal to douse cats in lighter fluid and set them on fire, it should be OK for me to do that?
quote: Even more so that if a law exists but you don't know about it...apparently you think that means you get to break that law?
quote: If the case that was noted proved that use tax laws were unconstitutional, the federal government would have forced every state in the union to get rid of them.
quote: And exactly where do you get the idea that you have the privilege of ignoring laws you don't like - whether they seem obviously stupid or not? Exactly where did you receive such education? I'd certainly like to know.
quote: You do understand that it is, and always has been, illegal to purchase something out-of-state and then not report that purchase on your tax return, and pay the associated use tax...right?
quote: As in a number of other cases involving the application of state taxing statutes to out of state sellers, our holding in Bellas Hess relied on both the Due Process Clause and the Commerce Clause. Although the "two claims are closely related," Bellas Hess, 386 U. S., at 756, the clauses pose distinct limits on the taxing powers of the States. Accordingly, while a State may, consistent with the Due Process Clause, have the authority to tax a particular taxpayer, imposition of the tax may nonetheless violate the Commerce Clause....Indeed, even if we were convinced that Bellas Hess was inconsistent with our Commerce Clause jurisprudence, "this very fact [might] giv[e us] pause and counse[l] withholding our hand, at least for now. Congress has the power to protect interstate commerce from intolerable or even undesirable burdens.
quote: However, in the meantime, if you don't pay use taxes on your out of state purchases, you're still breaking that law. And you're still a criminal.
quote: In this case we decide whether North Carolina's "intangibles tax" on a fraction of the value of corporate stock owned by North Carolina residents inversely proportional to the corporation's exposure to the State's income tax violates the Commerce Clause. We hold that it does.
quote: But because North Carolina has no general sovereign interest in taxing income earned out of state, Maryland v. Louisiana teaches that the Secretary must identify some in-state activity or benefit in order to justify the compensatory levy. Indeed, we have repeatedly held that "no state tax may be sustained unless the tax . . . has a substantial nexus with the State . . . [and] is fairly related to the services provided by the State."The Secretary's theory is that one of the services provided by the State, and supported through its general corporate income tax, is the maintenance of a capital market for corporations wishing to sell stock to North Carolina residents. Since those corporations escape North Carolina's income tax to the extent those corporations do business in other States, the Secretary says, the State may require those companies to pay for the privilege of access to the State's capital markets by a tax on the value of the shares sold. So, the Secretary concludes, the intangibles tax "rests squarely on `the settled principle that interstate commerce may be made to pay its way.' "The argument is unconvincing, and we rejected a counterpart of it in Oregon Waste, where we held that Oregon could not charge an increased fee for disposal of waste generated out of state on the theory that in-state waste generators supported the cost of waste disposal facilities through general income taxes.
quote: The statute exempted the use of any article that had already been subjected to a sales tax equal to the use tax or greater, so that the use tax effectively applied only to goods purchased out of state. Although the use tax was itself facially discriminatory, we held that the combined effect of the sales and use taxes was to subject intrastate and interstate commerce to equivalent burdens. "`There is no demand in. . . [the] Constitution that the State shall put its requirements in any one statute,' " we said; rather, "`[i]t may distribute them as it sees fit, if the result, taken in its totality, is within the State's constitutional power.' "
quote: state's demand for records of virtually every North Carolina resident who has purchased anything from Amazon since 2003
quote: A sales tax is a true progressive tax, as it affects big spenders more then anyone else.
quote: Three words: Value Added Tax.
quote: Amazon may not have your SSN but the credit card companies or banks will have the info.
quote: Then they would have the sue the banks to get that info too. Sounds like a long, expensive process.
quote: While many in the public have complained about excessive taxation on the federal level, it is actually the states that have been pushing the most for bigger taxes of late. The federal government has made some mild efforts to fight taxation of the internet.