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Nokia and Microsoft shared 1,200 patents with a notorious patent troll MOSAID

Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) and partner Nokia Oyj. (OMX:NOK1V) are under fire for transferring 1,200 patents to MOSAID, a so-called "patent troll" (a company that does not produce product, but which subsists off junk lawsuits).  MOSAID is reportedly targeting Google Inc. (GOOG) with patent litigation.

Nokia spokesperson Mark Durrant in a comment to Reuters defended his company's track record.  He accuses some Android devices of "significant (intellectual property) infringement issues."

And he adds, "Though we have not yet seen the complaint, Google's suggestion that Nokia and Microsoft are colluding on intellectual property rights is wrong.  Both companies have their own intellectual property rights portfolios and strategies and operate independently."

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Nokia arguably started the global patent war by suing Apple, Inc. (AAPL) and Android phonemaker HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) (among others) for patent infringement.  Its efforts were highly successful accounting for €500M (~$618M USD) in licensing fee earnings per year.

Apple and Microsoft have since taken the torch from Nokia, targeting Google and its partners with similar lawsuits.

Microsoft has long been implicated, at least peripherally, in accusations of patent trolling.  Its former chief technology officer (CTO), Nathan Myrhvold went on to found Intellectual Ventures, a firm some have called the biggest patent troll in existence today.

Source: Reuters



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Black Ops
By dark matter on 6/2/2012 5:05:52 AM , Rating: 4
Nokia and Microsoft have passed the patents so they can hold their hands up and claim "Well, THEY didn't sue"

If it smells like shit, it usually is.




RE: Black Ops
By Sagem123 on 6/2/2012 5:22:38 AM , Rating: 4
Nokia may have passed on the patents in order to protect their IP in the event of a hostile takeover by the biggest patent troll: Apple!


RE: Black Ops
By nick2000 on 6/2/12, Rating: -1
RE: Black Ops
By Reclaimer77 on 6/2/2012 10:48:50 AM , Rating: 4
Apple's pattens aren't on products though. The real points of contention being used against Android products are ubiquitous and vague conceptual patents on gestures and other obvious things.

That makes them a troll.


RE: Black Ops
By vol7ron on 6/2/12, Rating: -1
RE: Black Ops
By Reclaimer77 on 6/2/2012 6:53:44 PM , Rating: 5
Oh please. How can you hold the sole patent to where a button goes? Or how many one uses on a phone? How on Earth can anyone seriously consider these patentable things!


RE: Black Ops
By sprockkets on 6/2/2012 8:48:06 PM , Rating: 3
How about sending a text message over 160 char as one on the other side? MS sued Moto for that and won a ban for it in germany.

Amazing. I mean, what new novel methods were invented to make a txt message go from 1/2 2/2 to just one? And even more surprising is how MS owns that patent.


RE: Black Ops
By mcnabney on 6/4/2012 9:24:41 AM , Rating: 1
You don't understand what the patent office does.

All they do is check if a prior patent exists. They deliberately leave it to the courts to decide matters of prior art or common sense.


RE: Black Ops
By kleinma on 6/4/2012 9:57:43 AM , Rating: 2
Just imagine if some clothing company was able to patent where the buttons go on your shirts and pants... that would make for some interesting design concepts from the competition.


RE: Black Ops
By melgross on 6/2/12, Rating: 0
RE: Black Ops
By Jalek on 6/2/2012 3:43:17 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe this way they won't look as silly when they lose their "look and feel" lawsuit number ten.


RE: Black Ops
By michael2k on 6/2/2012 9:16:48 AM , Rating: 2
Why is Apple bigger than Nokia when Nokia shot first AND passed on 1,200 patents to an IP company?

Apple is definitely abusing the patent system but thus far no worse than Google, Microsoft, or Nokia.


RE: Black Ops
By FaaR on 6/2/12, Rating: -1
RE: Black Ops
By name99 on 6/2/2012 9:00:57 PM , Rating: 1
When was the last time Apple engaged in a hostile takeover?
Heck, how many companies does Apple take over in a given year? And how large are those companies? And what is Apple's motivation for acquiring them?

To assume Apple has any interest whatsoever in a hostile takeover of Nokia represents paranoia run riot.


RE: Black Ops
By drlumen on 6/2/2012 12:10:37 PM , Rating: 2
It wouldn't be the first time the MS has been found slithering behind some rocks. As a reminder, MS was found pumping money into SCO, through a third party, to help fund SCO's lawsuits against linux.

Hmmm, I wonder where the CEO of Nokia was working at the time of the SCO trials...


Easy fix
By bug77 on 6/2/2012 7:22:56 AM , Rating: 3
Just invalidate any patent used this way. That'll curb the practice in no time.




RE: Easy fix
By Solandri on 6/2/2012 1:38:56 PM , Rating: 4
Well I wouldn't invalidate the patent, but I'd just limit the award for a successful patent infringement lawsuit to damages (or 3x damages if you insist). If you make no competing product, you suffer no damages, and thus your max award is $0.

That would force you to either use your patent, or sell it to someone who will. None of this lurking under the bridge and collecting a toll from anyone trying to cross - classic troll behavior.


RE: Easy fix
By bug77 on 6/2/2012 6:22:26 PM , Rating: 2
When I said "invalidate" I meant make it public domain. Either way, it appears we have provided two solution just by brainstorming a little on DT. Makes you wonder why is this so hard for those that are actually supposed to fix this.


RE: Easy fix
By FaaR on 6/2/2012 6:49:00 PM , Rating: 2
Nice idea, but it wouldn't fix a company claiming they suffered umpteen bajillion in damages from a patent on say, beveled corners on the protective glass over the graphical display, or something equally trivial.

Also, since your idea's a nice, sensible idea, it'll never go through. The patent lawyer lobbyists would send hitmen at you for even suggesting it, should your idea look like it might start to catch on, not to mention what the patent trolls themselves would do... ;)


RE: Easy fix
By foolsgambit11 on 6/2/2012 7:33:05 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, but I hold a patent on a "System of Patent Enforcement Whereby Infringement Is Punished in Proportion to Damages Only." Governments will have to license this patent if they wish to use this method.


...but Google deals with Mosiad as well
By Krinosy on 6/2/2012 7:30:35 PM , Rating: 1
Google's attack on Mosiad and calling them a patent troll is pretty laughable considering that they themselves bought patents from them last year http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4228503/Mo...




By bug77 on 6/2/2012 7:49:47 PM , Rating: 2
Why is it laughable? Google bought patents from them, they didn't sell them patents so that they could sue on Google's behalf.


By sprockkets on 6/2/2012 8:53:25 PM , Rating: 2
Why don't you read the link in the article for this tidbit?

quote:
Mosaid also initiated at least a couple of high profile legal battles this year, with a suit filed in March against Dell and a number of other defendants, and another started in June (pdf) against Sonny Ericsson Mobile Communications (USA), Inc. and HTC America, Inc.


And the patents in question that google is referring to happened right as soon as they bought theirs from them.

http://www.seobythesea.com/2011/09/google-acquires...


By T2k on 6/4/2012 1:04:30 PM , Rating: 1
...of its mothership aka clown Ballmer's fag show corporation.

Well, oh well, there won't be Nokia for too long anyway, the high-pitched sweaty fat fuck and his scum-scuking lawyers will pick the carcass once that PoS Windows Phone bankrupted Nokia for good.

Monkey Dance v2.0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wftxoo77toA




By DarkUltra on 6/4/2012 7:11:29 PM , Rating: 2
I hope not, I rather like my Windows Phone :)


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