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Nokia N900
N900 promises PC like multitasking capability

Nokia is looking for every edge it can sharpen in its fight with Apple and RIM for the high-end smartphone market. Smartphones are growing in popularity and Nokia is seeing its market share drop faster than average rates in the industry.

DailyTech reported yesterday that Nokia would be unveiling a new high-end smartphone at Nokia World that ran Maemo. Today Nokia has made the Linux-derived Maemo device a reality with the official announcement.

The new Nokia N900 packs an ARM Coretex-A8 CPU in with up to 1GB of application memory and OpenGL ES 2.0 graphics acceleration. According to Nokia, the result of the powerful processor and the Maemo OS is that users of the N900 get a PC-like multitasking experience. Nokia says the power of the N900 allows many applications to run simultaneously.

The N900 features a slide-out QWERTY keyboard and supports up to ten personal email addresses. The device is designed for easy texting and email and sports 32GB of onboard storage. Memory expansion is offered with up to 16GB via a microSD card. The device sports a 5-megapixel camera with Carl Zeiss optics.

"With Linux software, Mozilla-based browser technology and now also with cellular connectivity, the Nokia N900 delivers a powerful mobile experience," says Anssi Vanjoki, Executive Vice President, Markets, Nokia. "The Nokia N900 shows where we are going with Maemo and we'll continue to work with the community to push the software forward. What we have with Maemo is something that is fusing the power of the computer, the internet and the mobile phone, and it is great to see that it is evolving in exciting ways."

Nokia says its N900 supports Adobe Flash 9.4, something lacking from the iPhone. Other features of the handset include a high-resolution WVGA touch screen, HSPA internet connectivity and integrated Wi-Fi. The handset runs the Mozilla web browser. Nokia expects to launch the N900 in October for select markets at a price of 500 EUR.



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Looks....
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/27/2009 11:46:06 AM , Rating: 4
Sexah! When can I touch it? :O




RE: Looks....
By niva on 8/27/2009 12:05:12 PM , Rating: 2
Oh yes, wonder how much it will cost. If it's under $1k at release I'll be pleasantly shocked. I have an N95 which I absolutely love, the camera is outstanding. Not too crazy about Symbian but I'd definitely like to see one of these in action with a fully featured linux OS.


RE: Looks....
By Kuukko on 8/27/2009 12:26:39 PM , Rating: 3
Nokia says it'll be around 500e before taxes when it comes out in October.


RE: Looks....
By Mojo the Monkey on 8/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: Looks....
By jRaskell on 8/27/2009 1:26:21 PM , Rating: 5
The Maemo platform has been Nokia's primary mobile platform (not just for smartphones, but was originally for tablet PCs) for around half a decade now. So your assumption that it is a new OS is completely false. It's just getting more attention because that's what the cell phone market is focusing on these days.


RE: Looks....
By Mojo the Monkey on 8/27/2009 2:04:58 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the clarification. All of the language about new software development and "showing where Maemo is going" gave me the impression that this was somehow new - perhaps a drastic change in the underlying architecture. My mistake

In that case, disregard my post. I do, however, wish that WebOS/Maemo/Android could join forces one day.


RE: Looks....
By segerstein on 9/1/2009 3:45:43 PM , Rating: 2
Maemo is Linux based, whose kernel is mature.

Nokia has been offering Nxxx tablets for quite a while. But they were 250g beasts.

Now the components have miniaturized, so a Linux based computer can be crammed into a bit less, ie 181g.


RE: Looks....
By mforce on 8/27/2009 1:59:24 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously now if you were the nr. 1 phone manufacturer in the world would you use an OS made by Google. It might be free and it might also be OK for the smaller companies out there but Nokia is in a position where they can and should have their own OS.
Just look what happened to other phone manufacturers that depended on Windows Mobile , Apple came with their own OS and swiped the floor with them.
Google takes all the decisions in Android development even if phone manufacturers get to modify it and stuff.
I don't even like Android with all their Java stuff , Maemo uses native code which should be better.
Google is getting too strong anyway , they really do need the competition.


RE: Looks....
By adiposity on 8/27/2009 4:02:30 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the phrase is "wiped the floor"

:)


RE: Looks....
By chagrinnin on 8/28/2009 2:21:41 AM , Rating: 2
Dora: Wiper! No Wiping! Wiper! No Wiping! Wiper! No Wiping!

Apple: OOH! Man! (snap!)


RE: Looks....
By drycrust on 8/27/2009 1:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
There is a logic to using a different Linux version, although it isn't, on the face of it, an economical one nor a good customer service one nor a longevity one. By having slightly different Linux Operating Systems it will, over time, show which versions are better and better supported, and which ones aren't. For example, I have tried all the main Linux OSs and have gone back to Ubuntu (fairly new) simply because it has less problems than any other version of Linux and that when I do have a problem I can generally find a solution.
If the people behind Ubuntu had tried to improve Fedora or OpenSuse or PCLinuxOS then they would still be hamstrung by the lack of control over the direction the OS improvements and repairs take. As it is, they get their own brand recognition and now lead the other Linux flavours in DIY customer service and ability to compete with Windows XP. No, they aren't there yet, but they are getting there.


RE: Looks....
By Hare on 8/27/2009 3:11:16 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia has their own service suite called OVI. It has appstore, music store, sync services, photo sharing, chat, etc etc. Using android with google services would be playing straight to the pockets of Google. OVI services are quite competitive so it's interesting to see how this turns out.

...and Maemo is superior to android from both consumer and developer perspective.


RE: Looks....
By sdsdv10 on 8/27/2009 4:17:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...and Maemo is superior to android from both consumer and developer perspective.


Explain please.


RE: Looks....
By sprockkets on 8/27/2009 5:06:16 PM , Rating: 5
Consider:

1. You find that Maemo has http://maemo.org, a community driven app development, all the tools to run those apps kernel level, not just on a java layer or whatever both Android and webOS do. In other words, Maemo is more "Linux" oriented in development than those other Linux based OSes

2. This: http://flors.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/screensho...


RE: Looks....
By the goat on 8/27/2009 1:08:12 PM , Rating: 2
This is the first smart phone I have been interested in getting.

Looks like the O.S & applications for this wont be [as] proprietary and locked down (compared to iphone, palm pre, etc.). Heck I can see an icon for a linux terminal emulator application in some screen shots. So they are not afraid of letting the user get their hands dirty.


RE: Looks....
By koenshaku on 8/27/2009 12:46:23 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like an excellent phone, if it doesn't overheat like the 3GS and comes out in a timely manner and doesn't cost above $600 I would get one. My iphone contract is over in 6 months anyway.

It does have only 256mb of ram though the extra 744mb is virtual memory, the 1gb sounded misleading 256mb is still a lot for a smart phone and the processor is 600mhz which is nice I look forward to the reviews for the battery life! Maybe they will make up for the N97 which was a disappointment.


RE: Looks....
By themaster08 on 8/28/2009 5:10:44 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
It does have only 256mb of ram though the extra 744mb is virtual memory, the 1gb sounded misleading 256mb is still a lot for a smart phone and the processor is 600mhz

What we have to remember is that Nokia have always been the type of company to push and fine tune their software to it's limits, and use basically average hardware compared to competitors.

The specs of this phone, and the fine tuning that Nokia makes, I have a feeling this phone will aboulutely fly!

I've always been a huge fan of Symbian, and it's quite sad to no longer see it in the shape of the N900. However, this phone is still very appealing, even to a Symbian fan such as myself.

The only gripe I have is, if Nokia wants this phone to be their flagship device, it will be their fourth flagship to have a 5 megapixel camera (N95, N96, N97, and now this). Time to step up the mark a little, Nokia!


RE: Looks....
By munky on 8/28/2009 3:43:37 PM , Rating: 4
Are you kidding me? The image quality depends on the size of the sensor, not how many megapixels are crammed into it. I'm using a 6MP DSLR that would absolutely blow away any 12-14MP compact or phone camera. In fact, image quality starts to degrade when you have too many megapixels.


RE: Looks....
By themaster08 on 8/28/2009 7:46:47 PM , Rating: 1
No, I'm not kidding.

1)Each of these 5 megapixel cameras in their past and present flagship devices have only seen very minor increases in image quality, and I'm sure this is no exception. The hardware in these cameras is more or less exactly the same. The only difference is tweaking of software which results in only minor image quality increases.

2)Numbers talk. People look at a 5 megapixel camera in a mobile phone and see this as the norm. There's no wow factor.

Look at the likes of Sony Ericsson, Samsung and LG pushing 8 megapixels on their flagship devices.

3)Nokia already have an 8 megapixel camera in the N86, which is known to be better quality than the 5 megapixel camera in the N97. However, the N86 is not considered Nokia's flagship device.
Shouldn't a flagship device incorporate the very best of everything the company has to offer at that particular time? Nokia obviously have something available that is better, why not include it?

4)Using your DSLR camera as a comparison is moot. Mobile phone cameras have much smaller lenses than your regular digital camera, especially SLR's. Thus mobile phone cameras will never surpass the image quality of your regular or SLR digital camera.


RE: Looks....
By FITCamaro on 8/27/2009 1:02:01 PM , Rating: 2
I really hope they bring this phone to the US as is and on Verizon's network.


RE: Looks....
By FITCamaro on 8/27/2009 1:02:53 PM , Rating: 2
Hell I'll even take it with slightly less onboard storage and just give me an expansion slot for a micro-SD card.


RE: Looks....
By themaster08 on 8/28/2009 5:15:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
just give me an expansion slot for a micro-SD card.

It already has this :P


RE: Looks....
By bbestar on 8/27/2009 9:08:26 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like Nokia is pulling out the heavy artillery.


That's all....
By x2c4me on 8/27/2009 2:27:04 PM , Rating: 3
So at the current exchange rate of 1.4349 that means it will ONLY cost $717 USD before tax. Talk about a steal!!!

/sarcasm




RE: That's all....
By FITCamaro on 8/27/2009 2:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
You forget phone subsidies in the US due to contracts. It'd probably be about $300.


RE: That's all....
By dubldwn on 8/27/2009 3:20:36 PM , Rating: 2
I'm skepticle. I don't think any carrier picked up the N95 or N97. Without that the value goes out the window.


RE: That's all....
By phillipn on 8/27/2009 7:58:40 PM , Rating: 2
actually us subsidaries are usually only around $200. This phone is coming to the US, but first on T-Mobile. It has already been approved by FCC and shows that it uses the AWS frequency 1700/2100MHz for HSDPA and HSUPA. This information has been out for almost a week now, DT is kinda slow at information. The price tag of 500euro has been known for a week, as is the 3g band it operates on in US.


RE: That's all....
By sprockkets on 8/27/2009 3:28:45 PM , Rating: 2
Or you can buy an unlocked iPhone 3GS for the low price of $915. Your choice.

http://www.hi-mobile.net/apple-phones-iphone3gs


One thing it probably won't have...
By Suntan on 8/27/2009 1:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
is a big "V" on the case somewhere.

If Verizion would offer it *AND* not neuter the heck out of its functionality, it looks to be a real dandy.

-Suntan




By Krashnicki on 8/27/2009 6:10:31 PM , Rating: 2
If Verizon offered this phone I would finally consider purchasing a smart phone. I am a long time Verizon customer and don't want to switch carriers. Unfortunately I am unsatisfied with their current smart phone options so I have avoided a smart phone purchase.


By Omega215D on 8/28/2009 8:31:34 AM , Rating: 2
It seems only Motorolas were neutered on the Verizon Network while the others were not save for lack of Wi-Fi on many devices (Samsungs have Wi-Fi) but a BB Tour with Wi-Fi will be available on both Sprint and VZW and so will other phones in the future. I have an LG enV Touch and nothing seems to be amiss.

As for Nokia Smartphones it'll most likely be made available to GSM markets since it is the global standard (CDMA is available in other countries but it's not as widespread). Still hopefully it will have the worldphone chipset though Nokia will have to pay licensing fees to Qualcomm and roaming won't be as easy as popping in a prepaid SIM like you can with unlocked GSM phones.


Website
By Hare on 8/27/2009 3:08:42 PM , Rating: 3
Check out

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RE: Website
By themaster08 on 8/28/2009 5:18:26 AM , Rating: 2
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almost perfect
By skyyspam on 8/29/2009 6:47:32 AM , Rating: 2
My only concern is the lack of a D-pad and a 4th row.

How am I supposed to run iNES without a D-pad? The arrow keys on the right side? Damn.




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