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Nokia's next generation Windows Phone will have to vie with Samsung for supremacy of Microsoft's ecosystem

Wondering what Nokia Oyj. (HEX:NOK1V) has in store for Windows Phone 8?  You're not alone.

Window Phone 8 is suddenly very well positioned, thanks to a potentially precedent-setting verdict against Android and Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) via Apple, Inc. (AAPL).  Samsung is already eyeing Windows Phone 8 as a potential safe haven from Apple's litigation, unveiling a gorgeous 4.8-inch Galaxy-like Windows Phone 8 handset.

That pickup is both good news and bad news for Nokia.  On the one hand, it brings attention to the Windows Phone platform, and by proxy Nokia's efforts.  On the other hand, it means that Nokia needs to step up its game because Samsung looks to be getting serious about Windows Phone.  Nokia and Samsung are already trading jabs on Twitter.

Now Nokia posted a teaser to YouTube:



...which suggests that a Windows Phone 8 device announcement is coming on Sept. 5 (5.9.2012 in European notation).  That's just seven days before Apple's anticipated iPhone 5 announcement.

It should be interesting to see what Nokia has cooked up.  Its first generation Windows Phone -- the Lumia 900 has been a mild sales success in the U.S., despite being exclusive to AT&T, Inc. (T) only.


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Wait a minute...
By daveinternets on 8/29/2012 6:25:56 PM , Rating: 1
Things changed on May 9th and I missed it?!?




RE: Wait a minute...
By Flunk on 8/29/2012 7:04:59 PM , Rating: 3
Who taught you how to read dates? Damn American school system trying to race to the bottom.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Tony Swash on 8/29/2012 7:19:28 PM , Rating: 2
I kept expecting her to crash into something.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Belard on 8/30/2012 9:04:07 AM , Rating: 2
Same here... Some sort of ending... or maybe a Japanese Tentacle monster grabs her...

Curses, our evil American Minds!


RE: Wait a minute...
By w8sk on 8/29/2012 8:05:56 PM , Rating: 1
Well, personally I prefer the "american" version of how the date is ordered. Although it would be better if the year was 1st instead as follows; YY:MM:DD. YY is to the right for US and YY:MM:DD is just reversed for others.

YY:MM:DD is a better format (closer to US ver.) due to the technological age we are in now. On the computer that uses any filing system (ie all), its best to put the least changing digit first ie the year, then month, then day. It makes the filing format more linear and organized even by default (by name). Its metadata at its most simplest form.

It just makes more sense to me in this day n age and it applies well to how current technological systems are filed.

TL;DR : US has it 2/3 correct, and the rest of you guys have it backwards in todays age.


RE: Wait a minute...
By ritualm on 8/29/2012 8:30:01 PM , Rating: 5
No, it isn't. The US date format is horrible to use.

Try binary or hexadecimal.


RE: Wait a minute...
By w8sk on 8/29/2012 8:42:41 PM , Rating: 2
Now you are getting too technical. Binary or hexadecimal is something I will never see on the surface. Also I never said I "liked" the US date format, I just said I preferred if over ddmmyy.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Samus on 8/30/2012 2:17:04 AM , Rating: 3
The day should always be first. America has it just stupid. The actual day is the most critical part of a "date."

Generally people already know what month and year it is when, for example, buying a newspaper, looking up movie times or a train schedule, or even writing a check. How many times have you been to the bank and looked around for the day only to read the month first where it was posted. Chances are you already knew the month.

It's just basic efficiency. This is why the rest of the known universe (outside of the United States) uses the metric system, as well. Don't even get me started on 220v electricity and why it's superior (hint: efficiency)


RE: Wait a minute...
By bobsmith1492 on 8/30/2012 7:16:26 AM , Rating: 2
240V is dangerous.

It is also more expensive to convert for use in devices (less so now than it was just 10 years ago, though).

Yes it's more efficient but only for very-high-load devices which we run on 240V anyway (stoves, dryers).


RE: Wait a minute...
By NellyFromMA on 8/30/2012 9:17:21 AM , Rating: 3
Actually, Year Month Day is most superior. I state this because it's my opinion and I want to promote it as if its an indisputable fact.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Mitch101 on 8/30/2012 10:05:07 AM , Rating: 2
Why not the corporate standard that no one uses.

DAY-ABR-YEAR
5-SEP-2012

By abbreviating the month the mystery is solved.


RE: Wait a minute...
By foolsgambit11 on 8/30/2012 8:09:03 PM , Rating: 2
Great, as long as it's being used in countries with similar abbreviations for the months (and let's not even get into whether they use the Latin alphabet). A lot of paperwork in the U.S. Army calls for that format, because there is no way to misread it.


RE: Wait a minute...
By leexgx on 8/29/2012 10:26:33 PM , Rating: 2
as this is an muti english site (ok its more USA site) the date format yyyy:mm:dd is better, as far as i know no one els has that format mixed up

only time DD MM YY is not an issue if the day is 13 or higher (something AMD do normaly with drivers, to bad they cant just release working drivers all the time)


RE: Wait a minute...
By inaphasia on 8/30/2012 6:00:27 AM , Rating: 2
A rare Dailytech comment outlier. Your logic is sound, Spock-like even... yet it's at -1.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Belard on 8/30/2012 8:48:32 AM , Rating: 1
Here Here!

When recording DVR, my photos and saving files... the best sorting formatting is YEAR / Month / Say.

If my file structure was USA, by Month - then my folders & data would be staggered.


RE: Wait a minute...
By stm1185 on 8/29/2012 9:48:09 PM , Rating: 2
"It's 40 rods to the hog's head thats the way I likes it!"


RE: Wait a minute...
By tayb on 8/29/2012 11:00:59 PM , Rating: 3
MM/DD/YY or DD/MM/YY are equally stupid. ISO 8601 or bust.


RE: Wait a minute...
By GPig on 8/30/2012 1:54:37 AM , Rating: 3
At least DD/MM/YY makes some logical sense. You would not read the time out in Hours/Seconds/Minutes would you?

The American date format has been the bane of pretty much every software engineer outside the US at some point or another.


RE: Wait a minute...
By NellyFromMA on 8/30/2012 9:15:48 AM , Rating: 2
lol this comment is funnier because of your username :)


On the Reclaimer Scale of Angriness
By Reclaimer77 on 8/29/12, Rating: 0
RE: On the Reclaimer Scale of Angriness
By ritualm on 8/29/2012 8:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know which is worse. A cheesy teaser ad, or one that encourages cyclists to not wear helmets and look at the front side while bicycling.

Either way, I do agree with you, in that this commercial sucks.


By jimbojimbo on 8/29/2012 11:24:56 PM , Rating: 1
In the countries with the most bicyclists nobody wears helmets so what makes you right? Do you wear a helmet when you go running?

I cycle to work every day and I don't wear a helmet but it's 100x more likely the idiots going the wrong way down a one way street or riding in the night without any lights are going to be killed long before I do.


By bobsmith1492 on 8/30/2012 7:17:47 AM , Rating: 2
She's not a "cyclist," she's cruising an empty bike-only area.


RE: On the Reclaimer Scale of Angriness
By Paj on 8/30/2012 7:21:59 AM , Rating: 2
Welcome to advertising! Most of it is a giant load of manipulative crap, which is why I got out of it.


By NellyFromMA on 8/30/2012 9:18:47 AM , Rating: 2
'Commercials' and 'quality and talents' do not go together. Not even on Super Bowl Sunday anymore. Fact of life.


By BSMonitor on 8/30/2012 11:09:45 AM , Rating: 2
Most probably believe that happened already, and we all have to deal with the aftermath.


att exclusive
By Gunbuster on 8/29/2012 7:36:42 PM , Rating: 1
I read the high end Nokia wp8 handset is going to be an att exclusive like the lumia 900. Over here on t-mobile where we got the shit budget lumia...




RE: att exclusive
By jimbojimbo on 8/29/2012 11:25:49 PM , Rating: 2
Hey at least you have that. Verizon has mostly pure crap with nothing to look forward to either.


RE: att exclusive
By mcnabney on 8/30/2012 12:59:03 AM , Rating: 1
Verizon is still pissed at MS for dumping the steaming turd called Kin on them.


RE: att exclusive
By Mitch101 on 8/30/2012 10:53:49 AM , Rating: 3
Wasn't anything wrong with Kin except the data plans Verizon tried to force with it. The better deal was to just get a smartphone. No fault to the Kin it had a high satisfaction rate but Verizon messed up the deal.


WP8 is more of the same
By mcnabney on 8/30/2012 1:04:13 AM , Rating: 1
The logic hasn't changed much in smartphones.

Apple - do everything our way and we get 30% of everything you spend and get to veto apps.
MS W8RT - do everything our way and we get 20-30% of everything you spend and get to veto apps.
Google - buy whatever device you want from whoever wants to make it. Use our marketplace or don't, heck, feel free to bypass markets all together and sideload.

Yeah, I think we will be sticking with the freedom of Android thanks.




RE: WP8 is more of the same
By Belard on 8/30/2012 9:14:05 AM , Rating: 2
Apple - Don't like the UI - too bad. Unless you root it.

MS-WART/WP - Don't like the UI - too bad. Nobody developing for it anyway. 3000 fart apps to choose form!

Android - Change it, with or without rooting. Want to make it into an iPhone or WP7 UI... knock yourself out.

Blackberry - You're on crack.


RE: WP8 is more of the same
By DFranch on 8/31/2012 9:38:48 AM , Rating: 2
I think you forgot the 15,000 fart apps on Android.


RE: WP8 is more of the same
By Rukkian on 8/30/2012 9:16:21 AM , Rating: 2
This pretty much sums it up in my book. I don't plan on getting anything but droid (unless stupid court decisions make it too difficult). I will, however have no problems having others get competitors that hold their hand for them. My wife has pretty much said she will not use anything be an iphone cause she likes not having choices.


So....
By anactoraaron on 8/29/2012 7:16:52 PM , Rating: 3
is the beta test over now?




RE: So....
By MindParadox on 8/29/2012 9:44:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
by anactoraaron on August 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM is the beta test over now?


Yep, right about the time they gave up on Win Mo 6.

Oh, you hadn't heard? so three years ago


Should've returned it
By Ringold on 8/30/12, Rating: 0
RE: Should've returned it
By MarcLeFou on 8/30/2012 9:34:08 AM , Rating: 2
While WP7's app collection was a little lacking, aren't apps between Windows 8, Windows RT and Windows Phone 8 supposed to be compatible between versions ? If so, watch the number of apps in WP8 skyrocket even past apple's in less than a year.

I agree about the app ranking though. Even in the Windows 8 RC, the few apps they have in there are painfull to browse through. They need to fix that ASAP. But to be fair, I can't ever find apps in either Platform without searching for it and that's what I miss the most in Windows 8. Where do we search for apps in the store by name ??? That's the only part I find is bad design on it.


RE: Should've returned it
By mcnabney on 8/30/2012 9:47:31 AM , Rating: 2
Apps written for Metro can run on both Win8 and WinRT - not WP8. Sorry.


By fteoath64 on 8/30/2012 11:02:45 AM , Rating: 2
They only impress if the roll-out a handset to match GS III, one to match the G Note II , a 7 inch tablet to match Nexus 7 and a 10 inch tablet like MS Surface RT.

The last one is easiest to do but the first 3 devices, well ?. Nokia really do not need to worry about Apple because their old customers have already moved there some time ago and are not about to leave .....




By Mitch101 on 8/30/2012 11:23:35 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung just partnered with Microsoft
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/08/...
The world’s biggest smartphone maker is in talks with major telecom carriers on Apple’s home-turf such as Verizon Wireless about modified designs in Samsung Galaxy devices. It is also closely partnering with Microsoft (MS) to cut its dependency on Google Android , according to officials Wednesday.

Samsung To Announce Galaxy S III-like Smartphone For Windows Phone 8
http://www.complex.com/tech/2012/08/samsung-to-ann...

However you might want to wait for the Nokia phone which has a 21megapixel camera which is hidden in the commercial above.


NEW WINDOWS 8 PHONES
By sikku on 9/2/2012 2:53:25 PM , Rating: 2
HTC WINDOWS8 PHONE LEAKED OUT CHEK IT OUT http://sevencolourgossips.wordpress.com/2012/09/02...




greaaaat
By sikku on 9/5/2012 6:10:17 PM , Rating: 2
nokia lumia 920 and nokia lumia 820 great phone with amazing specs ... have alook in detail at "http://sevencolourgossips.wordpress.com/2012/09/06...




nutrollin
By chµck on 8/29/12, Rating: 0
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