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Nokia uses an infographic to tout the Lumia 920's advantages

Samsung has definitely had its time to poke fun at Apple's recently announced (and soon to be released) iPhone 5. Last weekend, Samsung released a print ad that proclaimed "It doesn't take a genius" to select a Galaxy S III over the iPhone 5. Yesterday, Samsung got even bolder by releasing a new TV commercial that not only poked fun at the iPhone 5, but also the rabid fans that camp out for hours (if not days) to be the first to have the latest Apple smartphone.
 
Now, Nokia is having its fun in the sun with an infographic that touts the advantages of its Windows Phone 8 device -- the Lumia 920 -- over the iPhone 5. Naturally, Nokia points to a number of Lumia 920 highlights including wireless charging and the ability to use the touch screen with gloved hands.
 
 
 
So what do you guys think? Does Samsung or Nokia make a better case in countering the iPhone 5 juggernaut?

Source: Nokia [Twitter]



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By Motoman on 9/20/2012 3:25:01 PM , Rating: 5
I'll repeat and paraphrase myself:

Apple consumers don't care. About anything. Specs, quality, cost, fitness-for-purpose, whatever. And certainly not realistic reviews.

If it's an iPhone, they're buying it - without spending the slightest amount of effort to even think about it. It's an Apple iPhone. Therefore they buy it.

It wouldn't matter if the latest Nokia washed your car, printed money, and somehow got you laid by supermodels every night...if the iPhone 6 was literally a burning turd in a box guaranteed to give you cancer, it would still sell out to 100% of the Apple fan base.




RE: Again
By Nortel on 9/20/2012 3:58:24 PM , Rating: 3
iPhone user here. I have hundreds of dollars invested in the apps I use. Yes, I don't care that this phone has 'pureview', 'puremotion', wireless charging or whatever new 'features' this phone has. I'll stick with the device I know I'll like. If I had bought a Android device and put $ into apps I may be in a situation where I wouldn't want to leave the Android camp but not a single person has this same problem with the Windows phones (of course those WM7 people who can't get WM8 got burned already).


RE: Again
By drycrust3 on 9/20/2012 4:17:33 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I have hundreds of dollars invested in the apps I use.

That is exactly why application libraries are so important! They keep you locked into a particular operating system. Your next smartphone choice will be hugely influenced by the availability of your "essential" apps, which effectively limits you to either Android or iOS because it is unlikely any other operating system will have those apps in their application library.
As I see it, the general rule will be that second time smartphone users will change operating systems towards the larger application library, not towards the smaller application library.


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:26:46 PM , Rating: 3
100K applications aren't enough?

Maybe some people just want directions that work
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/...

New Apple iPhone 5 maps app frustrates users
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/09/20...


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
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By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
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By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:56:34 PM , Rating: 2
Where is your Microsoft Office?

"Angry Birds," "Angry Birds Space" Coming to Windows 8
http://www.cio.com/article/715228/_Angry_Birds_Ang...

Some things they want to announce on launch day.

GAMES:

Rovio - titles starting with Angry Birds Space join the original Angry Birds game in coming to Nokia Lumia and Windows Phone consumers
Rovio is building a dedicated design and development team to create games for Nokia Lumia smartphones and the wider Windows Phone ecosystem, with the goal of developing and publishing all future Rovio titles as soon as possible. Nokia and Rovio will partner to develop innovative new consumer products and content exclusively for Nokia Lumia smartphones, alongside cross platform multi-channel integrated marketing initiatives.


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 5:21:47 PM , Rating: 3
You are familiar with Product Launches right? I believe Microsoft's Official Windows Phone 8 launch is October 29th.

But I believe Nokia made it a 3 month exclusive and their launch date I believe is October 21st?


RE: Again
By Ringold on 9/21/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By dark matter on 9/21/2012 5:14:09 AM , Rating: 4
Temper tantrums now is it.

Careful folks, toddler on the loose.


RE: Again
By ClownPuncher on 9/21/2012 11:47:49 AM , Rating: 4
Entitlement!

Did I use that term correctly? No? :(


RE: Again
By nafhan on 9/21/2012 9:57:23 AM , Rating: 2
Really, MS Office is all you got? Because, I'm able to edit and create MS Office docs on a pretty old Android phone, no problem, and this has been the case for longer than WP7 has existed.

If you want to talk about the Lumia, talk about the camera. Now, that seems interesting!


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:53:07 PM , Rating: 1
Im still waiting for you to figure out that tiles are nothing but icons with a background color and that Windows 8 is just like scrolling on an Android but you claim its the end of the world and you cant figure it out.

What Apps do you think necessary are missing because I dont seem to be missing a thing that I feel is necessary or I cant find an alternative too. With Windows Marketplace approaching 120K apps and sure to be some surprises on Windows 8 launch day please elaborate or go do a google search and reference an article from 2011 like you did the last time and try to pass it off as happening today.

Words with Friends? We have it.
Skype - Microsoft owns skype.
Onkyo Receivers - We have it now.
Etrade - We have it now.
Audible - We have it.
HBO Go - We have it.
Dropbox use Boxfiles

The Samsung Galaxy S3 will be replaced by the S4 only 9 months after it launched.


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 5:26:35 PM , Rating: 5
Calling someone a dick and someone with downs is really keeping it civil.

Yes every chance you get you tell the world how much you hate the Windows 8 gui.

Is the article about Android? No then why are you here trying to threadcrap on Windows Phone?


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 5:45:32 PM , Rating: 3
I guess you forgot your meds today. Your getting as bad as Tony.

You guys talk as if the Windows Phone only has 50 apps your stuck back in the day that Windows Phone 7 launched and have no clue whats been happening with the eco system.

Are you Worried people might find out you can get the Hardware of Android but an OS thats actually stable and will still supported 2 years later instead of 6 months want to upgrade got to buy new?

Whats your point of being in here the article isnt about Android? You have some deep rooted issue toward anything Microsoft.


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 6:29:55 PM , Rating: 4
Why cant anyone enjoy a device or enjoy something that is not the same choice as yours?

Im glad you feel the need to win the Daily Tech forum posting. Your a winner.

Your so smart when are we going to be seeing great articles from ReclaimerTech.com


RE: Again
By Chaser on 9/20/2012 7:18:29 PM , Rating: 1
I'd subscribe. hehe


RE: Again
By Pirks on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Spuke on 9/20/2012 7:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO!!! You guys are murdering me right now!


RE: Again
By dark matter on 9/21/2012 5:13:10 AM , Rating: 4
Still being a prick I see reclaimer.


RE: Again
By mondo1234 on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
RE: Again
By rkgriffin on 9/20/2012 5:41:42 PM , Rating: 2
I had to switch from a Samsung Focus to the iPhone 4s due to lack of device encryption required by my company. I am hoping to switch to Windows 8 in Nov and have been going through my iPhone apps I use and here is a quick list that Windows still does not have. I am sure I will find more when I actually take the time to look closer. 100k apps sounds like a ton until you look at the apps you actually personally use. Not to even mention the ones I will need to re-buy once I switch. I want to switch badly but isn't always that easy.

Tivo
Amazon price check
Xfinity
Watch ESPN
Chess with friends
myZenfolio
My Movies
Accessline
Denon
Tons of games!


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 6:35:01 PM , Rating: 2
No only my personal experience with me owning several android devices that had the software updates abandoned and the constant freezing and battery pulls. Because Im having a good experience on Windows Phone im wrong because I don't share the same opinion as you. I must be delusional.

Forget that I support mobile devices in the corporate workplace and see the issues the clients have. Nope Im not allowed to use my personal and professional experience to draw my own conclusions. I must choose what reclaimer tells me is the best or my life is lost.


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 10:02:28 PM , Rating: 2
By your logic I shouldn't buy a Wii-U because of the lack of games. I guess I shouldn't have bought a X-Box 360 at launch because of the lack of games. Hmm how did that work out? Sure there are a few exclusives but there are always equivalents to the genre.

With Windows Phone being the fastest growing app market and there being close to 120,000 apps I can certainly find something to keep myself entertained. But if its not 500,000 then its somehow lacking and you shouldn't buy it?

Im only interested in upgrading the camera on my device. Ive said in a number of posts I really want a low light camera that I can take everywhere. Thats the only feature I want. Im perfectly happy with my device but since Im close to upgrading I can upgrade and get the improved camera. I also want off Sprint because I dont have coverage in two key areas. My phone is super fast and responsive and all my apps work great. If I could upgrade the camera only sure.

Its you that ran out of excuses why people shouldnt consider the Windows Phone or an iPhone. You told everyone how silly they were about not having the latest highest spec product and completely avoided us telling you how our OS's are optimized and work perfectly fine. All you could brag about were android specs the specs and more specs well now Windows has the same specs and your running away oh the apps the apps you dont have this niche app and that one.

Way to change your tune Reclaimer and yes I recall seeing your post how you called yourself a Android Fanbois so funny you call us that.

Do you drink tigers blood? I only ask that because your winning.


RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/2012 10:33:25 PM , Rating: 1
"Our OS is 'optimized' and runs perfectly fine" is usually rhetoric you hear from iPhone users. You should watch out for that kind of hyperbole.

And what are you on about with me telling people NOT to buy Windows Phone? Where am I doing that? Just because I'm pointing out facts about the apps doesn't mean I'm saying you shouldn't buy one. That is YOU being ultra defensive and taking things personal about something you like. This is silly, GROW UP.


RE: Again
By french toast on 9/21/2012 11:19:39 AM , Rating: 2
Ha ha I remember coming on to a review of some windows phone ages ago, and you 3 were at it then!!! At that time I was on reclaimed side, saying wp7 was a feature phone compared to android..it was...I javelin since gone on mad bought a galaxy s3...and I love it!!.

However, wp8 fixes many of the wrongs of wp7....it's MUCH better...a proper smartphone now...and the lumia 920 is the best of the bunch...I now think its right up there with the very best.

All microkia has to do is get the top 50 apps on the platform...the newest games...it doesn't matter about angry birds space...as long as they get the next newest one at the same time as everyone else....ditto with modern combat 4, nova 4, real racing 3...etc etc...all the old games are obsolete when the new version comes out..

So I was on reclaimed side before because I thought he had point about wp7..which was an over priced mid range smartphone.....now I disagree...wp8 is going to rock. :)


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/21/2012 9:21:52 AM , Rating: 2
I mean, is it wrong of us to enjoy better hardware when ti does finally come around?

That platform didn't really feel like it needed it, as essentially EVERYONE has acknowledged, but that doesn't mean we are somehow anti-hardware and must now shun it when it comes around.

I mean, what SHOULD we have done?


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 6:21:42 PM , Rating: 3
By all means I can understand if you have a need for those then you might be limited in your device choice.

When Windows Phone 8 gains ground the niche items will come.

TivoMote is available for Windows Phone
Amazon app for windows Phone
ESPN Hub will be on Nokia exclusive I think for 3 months
The whole Zynga line is coming
Zenfolio has been out for a while
My Movies not familiar with
Accessline - Use visendo - seems very niche
Denon - now that Onkyo has one I expect Denon will soon enough.

Windows Phone has a lot of games but Windows Phone 8 is going to be excellent

Microsoft: 'Amazing games coming to Windows Phone 8'
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/ingame/microsoft...
Windows Phone 8 also will support gaming middleware such as Havok Vision Engine, Autodesk Scaleform, Audiokinetic Wwise, and Firelight FMOD, as well as native DirectX-based game development.

Wait till the launch day in October I think Microsoft will have a few surprises. If not oh well stick with what you got its not a blackberry.

Im not reclaimer telling everyone anything other than an Android Samsung Galaxy S3 is garbage and you have ruined your life with your decision making. Im saying Windows Phone is a serious choice and a great OS dont overlook it. If Android didnt crash on me and I could upgrade some of the devices that I bought with it then I might be loyal to them but Im not and that makes me public enemy number one for Reclaimer.


RE: Again
By Pirks on 9/20/2012 6:44:00 PM , Rating: 3
There are also really high quality exclusive WP7-only games not ported to iOS or Android, for example Tentacles.

So guys don't you listen to lame trolls like Reclaimer who says there are no apps on WP7. You may get a pleasant surprise if you look closer.


RE: Again
By ctodd on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
RE: Again
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/21/2012 9:27:22 AM , Rating: 2
The S3 is great, I didn't have a choice other than to buy a new phone and it was clear the S3 was the best option at the time. It still probably won't stop me from picking up a Win8 device though.

The market potential for Win8 is just better. There are more devs that are more interested in bringing solutions to that platform vs any other.

Has anyone here tried to DEVELOP software for Android? It's an AWFUL and painful experience. I've heard softer versions of that for the iPhone.

The reality of the situation is MS knows software better than ANYONE. They also know DEVELOPERS better than anyone.

Put two and two together. No quality devs, no quality apps.

Let's reserve condeming Win 8 until, oh, idk.... it actually releases and has been out fo rmaybe a month?


RE: Again
By jimbojimbo on 9/21/2012 10:28:18 AM , Rating: 2
The Samsung SII and up have device encryption included. I have the Note 10.1 and am the Exchange administrator for our company and it is 100% fact that other than the Windows PC 6.1 devices this has THE best integration with ActiveSync. Samsung and Motorola are the only onese I've seen so far that handles Out of Office setup and the Samsung is the only device I've seen so far display free busy schedules. The Motorolas have an option to view it but it doesn't seem to work right.
The Playbook with its ActiveSync doesn't have free busy time.
Sadly, the Blackberry is for the current devices the best integrator with Exchange but nobody seems to care any more.


RE: Again
By jeffkro on 9/21/2012 1:03:41 AM , Rating: 1
I would be worried that the winphone 8 wouldn't tie into the Google universe as well as android. Almost all my computing is done through Google related apps/sites these days.


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/21/2012 9:08:56 AM , Rating: 2
If google is smart, it will likely develop apps for the Win store. It could be a strategy to siphon MS users towards Android if Ms flops big somehow.


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/21/2012 9:07:46 AM , Rating: 2
You know what, you're not wrong. It's true, its not the volume of apps. It's simply that MS needs some GREAT apps that I haven't quite seen to be available yet.

With that said, however, there's really only been one platform to populate the store with: WP7. Lets face it, WP7 was a technilogical win, but a commercial fail. I won't get into why but frankly I think it's because they'd rather have saved tyhe money pushing WP7 to instead push all things coming next month.

Either way, the REAL platform unrolls next month. Then people will be incentivized towards developing apps.

I've been waiting to dev for Win RT. The problem is NO DEVICES. I really don't have a good device to put Win 8 on as it clearly is better with touch so that hlds me back but in a month, our business is diving in ina big way. I expect all businesses to jump all over the first signs of consumer interest.

We'll see I guess, but you can't write off MS just yet because honestly, their best platform is due next month and the devices aren't around to dev for.


RE: Again
By Nortel on 9/20/2012 4:46:23 PM , Rating: 4
Apple will fix the map issue, which are way overblown at this point, from my own usage of the app. Not buying a phone/upgrading to ios6 because of a small issue with a brand new app which is easily patch-able (its software people) is no reason at all.


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 5:00:57 PM , Rating: 2
Why Apple Maps Won’t Get Better Anytime Soon
http://gizmodo.com/5945014/why-apple-maps-wont-get...

Apple's maps are not off to a good start. They're getting killed by critics and users alike. And rightly so! They don't hold their own against last generation's Google Maps on iOS 5. And what's worse for Apple and its fans? Things probably won't be getting better any time soon.


RE: Again
By GPig on 9/21/2012 3:37:36 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not really sure how miss placing a major airport city just north of London hundreds of miles away in the west country is a overblown.

In the UK they're totally screwed.


RE: Again
By fishman on 9/21/2012 7:42:54 AM , Rating: 1
Of course, those 100K apps are for WP7. If you run them on a WP8 phone with a higher resolution screen, the app isn't run with the higher resolution - it is just scaled up so it doesn't look as good.


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:18:41 PM , Rating: 2
As a Windows Phone 7 user im only really interested in upgrading the Camera. Everything else is rock solid, fast, and works. The fact that Microsoft isnt upgrading the OS on my device so it works like a Commodore 64 is pretty admirable. I also like that even after 1.8 years we still get upgraded to some functions of the new os and not forgotten 6 months later like other devices Ive owned.


RE: Again
By ctodd on 9/20/2012 6:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like you would happily bring the vasoline. Good luck with that!


RE: Again
By french toast on 9/21/2012 12:17:46 PM , Rating: 2
Ha ha ha...classic


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/20/2012 4:36:34 PM , Rating: 1
Seriously? Hundreds of dollars?!? Wow, I love technology, but I will never throw my money away on useless mobile apps. The quality just isn't there, really.

Did you buy every bad dollar app available or something?


RE: Again
By vignyan on 9/20/2012 4:41:00 PM , Rating: 2
So, you are admitting that you will choose iphone over better (in the sense of features) phones because (a) you have significant investments in it and (b) you are afraid of adapting new ecosystems - unless apple announces it...

I always wondered why apple fans are so annoyingly loyal... Now I understand - They have to!

Sidenote: I love my windows phone. I only miss google voice to make calls over wifi and international calls... Wish for that to be fixed with Windows8 and skype.


RE: Again
By kleinma on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
RE: Again
By fredgiblet on 9/20/2012 5:31:22 PM , Rating: 2
I have a phone that's 1.5 years old, it never got upgraded from Android 2.2. Granted with Android I can, and did, put a different ROM on it, but the idea that not going from 7 to 8 is a crucial, MS-only issue is false.

The only real issue I have with the lack of an upgrade is that it's the second generation in a row where they are skippign old hardware, but I suspect it will be the last.


RE: Again
By ctodd on 9/20/2012 6:57:23 PM , Rating: 2
I doubt it.


RE: Again
By ctodd on 9/20/2012 6:50:37 PM , Rating: 2
I don't have hundreds, but I agree with you. I was also burned with a 10 month old WP7 device. Won't happen again! My only options right now are Android and iOS. Most of the apps I need or want do not exist on Android yet. I will probably switch when they do.


RE: Again
By Dr of crap on 9/21/2012 8:18:10 AM , Rating: 1
TOO bad you spend you money so needelessly.
Really hundreds of dollars on APPS!!!!

I have an island I'd like to sell you!


RE: Again
By Da W on 9/21/2012 10:53:36 AM , Rating: 1
Wp7 apps work with WP8, the reverse won't be true.
All it means is my HTC surround won't run new apps by december, but neither would a 2 years old iPhone run iOS6 or 2 years old HTC android phone run Jellybean.


RE: Again
By Pirks on 9/21/2012 1:11:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
neither would a 2 years old iPhone run iOS6
Please stop lying, iPhone 3GS from 2009 DOES RUN iOS 6


RE: Again
By inperfectdarkness on 9/25/2012 2:18:52 PM , Rating: 2
Problem is, if you had android and were "locked" into android apps, you could always pick a different phone if you didn't like the one you had.

Since you use apple, you're stuck with whatever apple decides it will make.

This is why apple is the antithesis of freedom; because once you're "locked in", you pay a heavy penalty to switch. At least with Android/WP7, you'll have SOME amount of choice between phones--and that's a lot more than you can say for ios.


RE: Again
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:04:17 PM , Rating: 2
People tend to stick with the eco system that they have had a good experience with.

Apple devices have barely changed with each revision and people that already know the device and like it will just upgrade. Where Apple goes bad is no memory slot and changing connectors causing you to spend more on an adapter than the original product cost. If they are something your care about you move on.

Same with Android if they like the OS and device they will upgrade to newer hardware. Where Android goes bad is not every hardware device is a winner or ever can be upgraded. Is anyone even talking about an Android device other than the Samsung Galaxy S3?

Unless youve had a bad experience with Android or Apple your most likely going to stick with them when its time to upgrade.

In Microsoft favor there are people who actually like Microsoft OS's and the X-Box. The Phone OS is excellent rock solid and stable. Nokia is a well respected brand and so is Samsung so people who like those brands might give Windows Phone a try. The hardware is cutting edge now so those interested in 1080P video recording and expansion and items like usb standard may look at Windows Phone.

Microsoft is also building a top notch eco system - Microsoft Smart Glass - x-box and x-box live integration, cloud services, Sharepoint, Outlook/MSN, Exchange, Microsoft Office, 100K+ apps, marketplace was revamped recently, Microsoft Music service which is top notch zune pass although thats going be changing. Every one of them Microsoft says how can we be one step better than our competitors and I believe they are starting to deliver.

With Microsoft its not just about the Phone its about the eco system surrounding it. Microsoft is firing on all Cylinders going into the end of the year were going to see the most amazing things come from them in ages over the next year.


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/20/2012 4:40:10 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I'm excited to see the inter-product synergies that people are only now starting to really consider.

It's certainly Microsoft's stage, hopefully they will execute well. All signs point to yes.


RE: Again
By michael2k on 9/20/2012 4:26:23 PM , Rating: 1
Of course we care. We care about brand reputation. Apple has a 5 year reputation of OS updates, free apps in the App Store, neat and useful dock accessories, great games and apps in the App Store, synchronization of apps and data between iPhone/iPad/Mac/iPod, and generally one of the best phones in general.

Nokia may also have "one of the best phones", as well, but it doesn't have any reputation for OS updates, no reputation for accessories, not a lot of great games and apps, and certainly very little synchronization between the phone, PC, XBox, and tablet, though that should improve quite a bit with Windows 8, Surface, and future XBox releases; but that's all future and it's stupid to buy for future potential.


RE: Again
By NellyFromMA on 9/20/2012 4:38:02 PM , Rating: 2
If you like reputation, I advise you check out everything Microsoft. They have a reputation for running the world for the passed 15-20 years. Doesn't really get better than that. Unless by reputation you more mean what other people think as opposed to the reality of the situation.

Just having some fun is all :)


RE: Again
By michael2k on 9/20/2012 8:15:26 PM , Rating: 1
You mean the reputation where people who bought WP7 could get an update to WP7.5 but not WP8, and people who bought WP7.5 got an update to WP7.8 but not WP8?

Where people actually have to wonder whether WP8 will see the upgrade to WP9, or just be stuck at WP8.5?

Apple has released iOS 4, iOS 5, and now iOS 6 on my original 2010 iPhone 4. That's the reputation I'm talking about.


RE: Again
By sviola on 9/21/2012 11:04:13 AM , Rating: 2
Nokia invented the mobile market. It has over 20 years of cell crafting and support. Also, almost all communication tech that runs in a cell phone was created by them.

But no, they have no reputation in the market.


RE: Again
By michael2k on 9/24/2012 9:39:32 AM , Rating: 2
They have a reputation for being staid and conservative and old fashioned.

They stuck with resistive way too long.
They stuck phones with weak GPUs way too long.
They stuck phones with Symbian, instead of Maemo or MeeGo, way too long.

How is that going to help them sell phones against the likes of Apple, Samsung, and Google?


RE: Again
By Bateluer on 9/20/2012 7:13:14 PM , Rating: 2
Man, this post needs a 7 rating.


RE: Again
By kmmatney on 9/20/2012 9:29:14 PM , Rating: 2
Does a Windows phone have the equivalent of a Jailbreak, and an equivalent App to MyWi so I can tether for free? if not, then sorry it just won't work for me.


RE: Again
By themaster08 on 9/21/2012 2:17:19 AM , Rating: 2
No jailbreak per se, however tethering is built into the OS.


RE: Again
By Donkey2008 on 9/21/2012 5:38:10 PM , Rating: 2
Motoman meet Frank Grimes. One and the same.


RE: Again
By TakinYourPoints on 9/21/2012 6:05:06 PM , Rating: 2
Well then its a good thing that the iPhone 5 has the fastest performance and best apps out there. At least those mindless drones aren't lining up for trash, right?


fire the marketing department
By headbox on 9/20/2012 3:30:13 PM , Rating: 5
PC/tech companies in general need to fire their marketing departments completely. Lumia 920 doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Or how about the Asus G75VW laptop with the 3720QM processor. Yeah, everyone's going to remember that one. Or how about that new Samsung UN50EH6000FXZA TV? People are lining up for that one!




By StevoLincolnite on 9/20/2012 3:42:06 PM , Rating: 2
They should have just called it the Nokia Lumia "2" or whatever.

Then used the extra letters and numbers for lesser models... At-least then the top-end phone will be easy for consumers to recognize and remember, a single digit is much easier than 3 for the average joe.


RE: fire the marketing department
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/2012 4:16:24 PM , Rating: 1
LOL some of these...just lol!! What?

iPhone: Sensitive Touch Screen
Our Phone: SUPER Sensitive Touchscreen!!

Like really?


RE: fire the marketing department
By Nortel on 9/20/2012 4:28:41 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer, did you just defend the iPhone!? They also list the accessories for the iPhone as Earpods (only) where the Lumina has JBL PlayUp Portable Speaker and Wireless Bluetooth Headphones. Both of these accessories are not included of course.


RE: fire the marketing department
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/2012 4:31:44 PM , Rating: 2
No? I just think that's some...interesting marketing speak they choose to use. I guess the use of "super", which is kinda amateurish.

It's like if you said you had a sandwich and I said "oh yeah I have a SUPER sandwich"

Why so serious? I just found it humorous.


RE: fire the marketing department
By Nortel on 9/20/2012 4:42:28 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, meant to be humorous :)

I think they really are getting desperate at this point. Going head to head with the iPhone 5 and SG3 is super sandwich impossible.


RE: fire the marketing department
By Reclaimer77 on 9/20/2012 4:56:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Going head to head with the iPhone 5 and SG3 is super sandwich impossible.


AHAHAHA

I think they are crazy too. I mean, it's kind of a reach at this point. Set your sights a bit lower/realistic for now.

My Lumia 920 commercial would be some average guy holding the phone and kind of shrugging with a caption at the bottom:

The New Lumia 920 Windows Phone 8 Phone.
Hey...it's better than a Blackberry


By themaster08 on 9/21/2012 2:36:06 AM , Rating: 2
Here's an idea, Reclaimer. Why don't you reserve judgement until you've actually used a Lumia 920?
Sorry, that would be much to hard for a flaming troll such as yourself, because you might actually enjoy the device.


RE: fire the marketing department
By nikon133 on 9/20/2012 6:00:00 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, I'd always go for super sandwich!


RE: fire the marketing department
By vapore0n on 9/20/2012 4:43:02 PM , Rating: 2
Thats so they can finish doing what they are doing quicker...


RE: fire the marketing department
By qkool on 9/20/2012 6:16:56 PM , Rating: 2
It can get really cold in Finland and many other countries. Having to take off your gloves to be accurate on your phone sucks.


By dark matter on 9/21/2012 5:15:17 AM , Rating: 2
Do you actually have a job?


Accessories Box
By fhumphrey04 on 9/20/2012 3:49:11 PM , Rating: 3
It's not really fair of Nokia to list all of the optional accessories and compare them to the standard headphones that come with the Apple. The iPhone has an incredible amount of aftermarket accessores that are specifically designed to work with it, including watches, pedometers, CARS, etc.

With that being said, I will still likely look to purchase the N920 once there are some hands-on reviews and comparisons with the apple device, assuming it proves to be a quality phone with nice features and that jawsome l33t camera.




RE: Accessories Box
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 4:41:20 PM , Rating: 2
Here is something missed in the graphic.

Nokia’s Wireless Charging Stand is not just a dumb wireless charger, but also comes with a NFC tag which will launch an app you specify automatically when you place it there.

This would for example let you automatically launch a clock application at work or say Xbox Smartglass at home without needing to do anything besides dropping it in the cradle.


RE: Accessories Box
By chmilz on 9/20/2012 5:20:23 PM , Rating: 2
What they really need to advertise is that the rest of the modern world has forgone wires completely. Wifi, Bluetooth, NFC, LTE... and now even power.

I'm personally looking forward to accessories that wirelessly charge and connect to any device I want it to... except an iPhone, because they apparently don't care about that.


Cyan
By BillyBatson on 9/20/2012 3:20:53 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone else see the blue colored Lumia but not mentioned?




RE: Cyan
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 3:22:44 PM , Rating: 2
AT&T exclusive.


RE: Cyan
By Belard on 9/21/2012 9:07:33 AM , Rating: 2
But there is a purple one shown... they say "5 colors" but there are 6 ones drawn. You'd think they'd get the colors and numbers right.

Also, the Accessory comparison is a joke... with iPhones have thousands.


Too much emphasis on specs
By KPOM1 on 9/20/2012 3:15:45 PM , Rating: 3
I think this ad still relies too much on specifications. People don't buy phones based on specifications. They should just show a glossy color ad with a big picture of a gloved hand using the phone with gloves (or a similar feature) without trying to present a laundry list. It would be far more effective.

I could see them buying all the ads on a subway passageway. One would show the gloved hand. The other could show the phone sitting on a mat with the word "Charging" in big letters.




Mittens
By Mitch101 on 9/20/2012 3:08:55 PM , Rating: 2
I dont wear gloves year round but when I go skiing I can see this as being a nice touch.

Im mainly interested in the camera the Nokia has excellent low light camera you dont need to switch it to low light either it also has excellent video stabilization.

The exclusive apps to the Nokia is also a nice perk.




By salomonskier720 on 9/20/2012 3:45:35 PM , Rating: 2
It would almost be great if this ad listed, "not an Iphone" as an advantage. I have grown to hate the Iphone just because so many people have them. Don't get me wrong, there are a TON of great phones out there these days that are all very good so please no flaming. I am just excited for something different that not everyone has... I am not saying that like a hipster or someone super trendy would say, but more of a I am interested in something new and refreshing.

I have really liked the concept of Windows Phone since it first came out and I really hope that WP8 is successful enough to stick around. I really don't care that there are not 1 billion apps available as I realistically only use a couple apps a day. As long as they are quality apps, I am in.

I usually check this website daily for news but now that the Nokia Lumia 920 is on my radar, I cannot stop hitting refresh all the time looking for the latest! I am really hoping that they will release this phone on Sprint (however, it doesn't look like it will right away). It would be a real bummer if they kept it only on ATT again.

Anyways, enough rambling, I am pumped for this phone!!!




most people stay with what they have
By tharik on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
By Pirks on 9/20/2012 11:27:51 PM , Rating: 2
don't listen to this clueless troll, there is a 4.8 inch wp8 phone from samsung, do not believe his lies about 4 inches!


Better to be fair
By H.Kh on 9/20/2012 4:18:44 PM , Rating: 2
Seldom see a fair comparison in such cases.




Bad color for background
By Dug on 9/20/2012 4:44:19 PM , Rating: 2
Light blue background makes it very hard to read. They want to talk superior design, but honestly that is not the right way.

What they call a feature may work against them.

Some people may like a larger screen, but many don't-
There is something to be said for one handed navigation.
There's also something to be said for thin and light.
I look at the Lumia 920 as too big and heavy. The recently announced HTC on the other hand looks a lot better.
I know several people that bought a larger phone because they were attracted to the larger screen, but now wish they had a smaller phone again.

Being able to navigate the UI with anything might be a burden-
Imagine if you left your phone on and slipped it in your pocket. Just walking would trigger different things on the screen. Or anything that accidentally touches the screen such as a shirt cuff or jacket. I think it would get annoying.

I don't see too many people using 3D Maps or Augment Reality Map. I think Google's street view is better than both.

I don't see the benefit of the wireless charging-
You have to place it in the same spot every time unless you want to carry the charging pad around with you or buy multiple charging pads which will be expensive.

The accessory part is a joke-
Who named it JBL PlayUP Portable Speaker for Nokia Monster Wireless Bluetooth Headphone? That really roles of the tongue.

The one thing that may be better is the camera. Although I think showing off panorama is a mistake. It's just not often used or practical.

I would be more interested in speed, battery life, call quality, usable apps, integration with other devices.

I would also like to see how it handles voice commands. One thing I like is being able to say and address and get directions. I also like it to read texts so I don't have to look at my phone.




Nokia marketing sucks
By corduroygt on 9/20/12, Rating: 0
RE: Nokia marketing sucks
By silverblue on 9/20/2012 5:55:40 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, but it also shows purple instead of red. Make of that what you will.


A waste
By tayb on 9/20/2012 6:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia is going after the wrong audience with this. Apple has more brand loyalty than any other player out there.

Also, what is with the weird specs. Super sensitive touch screen? Couldn't they think of something better than that?




Why so angry?
By ChicoMonster on 9/20/2012 6:33:57 PM , Rating: 2
Not everyone buys Apple products blindly and not everyone needs or cares about all of these features that are constantly compared. I like the way my iphone looks and feels, simple as that. I don't even use it for navigation and I have Suri turned off. I think Macs are worthless (I'm a gamer) and I've never owned ipod.

The Galaxy SIII running 4.1 is tempting me away from getting the iphone5. I may just switch to it and let my son use my old 4s for the games (lot of money invested there).

Anyone who says that either is the clear choice is wasting their breath.




The chart looks good but...
By Chaser on 9/20/2012 7:46:56 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not a power user. Or an eccentric phone user. I'd say I'm down the middle average smartphone type. After four Android phones I decided to give the Lumia 900 a shot. I made a financial investment for this phone and I wanted it to work for me.
The Lumia had some pretty cool unique features. The voice activated texting was very nice. The HUD like display was definitely advantageous. BUT after like three weeks it left me wanting. Key features that I had grown to take for granted on Android weren't there and, yes the lack of apps. Yes W7P had most the staples and many of those were written to take advantage of the tiles. But combining the lack of apps and lack of features I had grown to appreciate on Android I traded the phone back to AT&T and got a SG3.
Going back to Android was like a breath of fresh air that I hadn't gotten in a while. I didn't realize I had gone that long with the limitations W7P had given me in terms of both features and apps.
And for you App counters out there, I can't list the apps W7P didn't have that I had grown to like and expect on Android but it was enough to be a sizable annoyance rather than a minor inconvenience.

A smartphone is first and foremost about features, customization, convenience and apps. Which to me just augments features. Nothing beats Android.




Don't forget the enterprise
By pmt32577 on 9/21/2012 3:36:01 AM , Rating: 2
There are two aspects to the smartphone market, consumer and enterprise. iOS and Android has pretty much sown up the consumer market with Windows Phone 7 just having a toehold. In the enterprise Microsoft is preparing to fight a big battle to stop iOS and Android encroaching on its dominant position. I’m a developer in a big organisation and see iPads starting to come in but it is hard work for them as they run into security and integration issues. However, Microsoft is worried and is pushing back with Windows 8, Windows 8 RT, Surface tablets etc.
Now the key here is that with Windows 8, RT and Phone, the development platform comes together and a lot of security/integration issues go away. Therefore IT departments will like it, also hundreds of thousands of Windows developers (I’m one) will be able to transfer skills across devices.
So, as Windows 8 ripples across the enterprise a wave of Windows 8 based apps will start to flow. I think Microsoft is hoping to keep their toehold in the consumer market and then rely on this wave to push through into the consumer market. After all who wants to own 2 smartphones if there is pressure to use Windows Phone 8 at work.
The first battleground is tablets, if Microsoft start to win that one then it will move onto smartphones. So, at the moment iOS v Android v Windows is a consumer choice, but give it a year or two it may be a mixture and as soon as it is seen that Windows Phone 8 is on the up then that growth will drive consumer development efforts.
I’m planning to switch to Windows this autumn to try and catch this early.




This one is easily done.
By dark matter on 9/21/2012 5:12:06 AM , Rating: 2
"Don't buy an iPhone 5"
"Unless you're a twat"

Simples.




By BZDTemp on 9/21/2012 11:14:08 AM , Rating: 2
Also even with Windows on the Nokia the level of dickness is way lover than with the iPhone.

Oh, and finally without having tried an iPhone 5 it would surprise me if Nokia isn't far beyond Apple when actually using the phone as a phone.




WP8
By p05esto on 9/21/2012 12:44:50 PM , Rating: 2
WP8 is FAR supior to iOS or Android. Only if you've used them all will you realize this, WP8 is a very good and very smooth OS. It also feels much more modern than iOS.




Probably not for me.
By Scannall on 9/21/2012 7:14:38 PM , Rating: 2
I appreciate their efforts and all. And I do plan on at least looking at it in a couple months when I ditch this Samsung Android phone. But I just don't like the way it looks, and historically Microsoft has a really bad track record in this arena.

I'd agree that W8 is a more solid foundation than Android, since Android is stuck with that Dalvik mess. But maybe in 2 years when it's time for yet another phone we'll all know if W8 for phones actually made it over the hurdles.




quality
By Mike Acker on 9/22/2012 8:32:30 AM , Rating: 2
Steve Jobs would roll over in his grave, get up and fire about 25 people if he found out about the debauch with apple/maps. it was his insistence on things being right that made apple what it is today.

now that he's gone, -- well -- Mr. Cook -- ya done fumbled the ball.

ooops




What I think is..
By piroroadkill on 9/27/2012 10:24:05 AM , Rating: 2
Who put that infographic together?
It's awful, look at the high JPEG compression! It should have been a PNG from the start.
Also, it's iPhone, not iphone. Damn.




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