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Incredible camera makes this Lumia a solid buy at $602 USD, unsubsidized

Finnish phonemaker Nokia Oyj. (HEX:NOK1V) today unveiled the latest colorful flagship entry in the Lumia family, the Lumia 1020.  This long awaited 41 MP Windows Phone shooter is in a pretty unique spot in the market -- in certain regards (cough, camera) it's the best.  In other regards (price, processing) it's a mediocre laggard.  Let's take a closer look at these storylines.

The Good:

The phone's highlight is clearly the camera.  It packs [white paper] a:
  • Second generation 41 MP, 1/1.5" sensor with 1.1 micron backside illuminated (BSI) pixels
  • 36 MP in 4:3 ratio and 34 MP in 16:9 ratio (with oversampling to 5 MP)
  • Six piece floating lens assembly for optical image stabilization (OIS) (5 plastic lenses; 1 glass lens)
  • Ball bearing stabilizer
  • f2.2 (const. including while zooming) aperture
  • Macro range: ~15 cm (5.9 in.) (const., including while zooming)
  • Manual shutter for variable exposures
  • Zoom: 3x (in 5 MP), 6x (in 720p), or 4x (in 1080p)
  • Xenon + LED dual flash system
The xenon flash is one standout of the system, as it's quicker than your average flash (hence preserving more ambient light in the surroundings), yet more powerful (illuminating targets up to 3 meter away).  Nokia claims to get >90% theoretical resolution at 10 lux with the xenon flash, versus about 10 percent in a "competitor" device.
Nokia Lumia 1020
The Nokia Camera Pro app offers the following perks:
  • Multiple framing grids
  • Exposure: 1/16000 s to 4 s
  • Focus: 15 cm to "infinity" (10 m)
  • Exposure (-3 to +3)
  • White balance
  • ISO : 100 to 4000
Additionally, for taking video with audio, Nokia has built in a 0 to 200 Hz filter to tune down the bass when recording at noisy environments, e.g. concerts.

Nokia Floating Lens
Nokia's 6-lens system makes for super-sharp images.

Quite simply put, while imaging quality is somewhat of a subjective matter, from a technical standpoint there's no other smartphone camera that can match the Lumia 1020, particularly in high speed (due to the manual shutter and sensor size) or low light (due to the xenon flash and sensor size) scenarios.

Other star features:
  • Gorilla Glass 3
  • 2 GB DRAM
  • 802.11 b/g/n
  • Bluetooth 3.0
  • NFC
  • Dual microphone noise cancellation
  • 8-device Wi-Fi hotspot
  • 1020 mAh extra battery capacity via the tripod-attachable camera grip accessory 
The Bad:

Much of the hardware trails Nokia's rivals' 1080p handsets, but it could be worse.  Among these examples are:
  • 4.5" WXGA (1280x768 pixel) AMOLED display w/ PureMotion HD+, ClearBlack
  • 2000 mAh battery
  • 1.5 GHz Snapdragon S4 dual-core
  • Wireless charging requires accessory backplate
  • 1.2 MP (1280x960) f2.4 front-facing camera
  • 0.41 inch (10.4 mm) thick
  • 5.5 oz. (158 g)
  • AT&T Inc. (T) exclusive in subsidized form; $299 USD subsidized, $602 USD unsubsidized price
It's kind of disappointing to think that you can shoot such gorgeous high resolution images, but then will have to fiddle with zoom to preview them -- but serious photographers should be used to this (thanks to the low-res displays on entry-level SLRs).  Nokia's screen is interesting in that the OLED makes it among the sharpest and most colorful displays on the market -- but it can't keep up resolution wise versus a host of rival 1080p flagship designs.

The weight and thickness are also onerously high by bleeding edge standards, and the price at first blush is higher than any other flagship phone.  Add in that there's no microSD expansion and the processor is a generation old, and you see that there's a clear tradeoff to the spec sheet.
Nokia Lumia 1020
The single-carrier status is mitigated somewhat by the fact that you can buy an unlocked Lumia 1020 at a Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) Store for $602.  In that regard the price is also misleading.  Quite simply put AT&T's subsidy isn’t that appealing.  

Unsubsidized, the Lumia 1020 is cheaper than the Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (KSC:005930Galaxy S4 ("Pure" edition) and on par with HTC Corp.'s (TPE:2498One ("Pure" edition).  Subsidized, and you're talking $100 USD more than Samsung and $200 USD more than HTC.

In that light the AT&T subsidy is pretty weak.  Most should stay way unless you're stuck on an AT&T family plan.  As the phone is dual-mode (CDMA/GSM) if you're going to buy it, get it at a Microsoft Store and go with a carrier of your choice.

Concluding Thoughts

Nokia has indeed produced "a smartphone like no other" as it brags.  But it's not all good.

For mobile photography aficionados, this is a must-get device.  The combined package is a photographers dream in this form factor and an answer to most of the first-generation camera package in the Nokia 808.

But from a speed, screen resolution, size, and form factor perspective Nokia trails its rivals' flagship phones.  For example, for the same (unsubsidized) price you can get HTC One, which packs a 1080p, 1.7 GHz Snapdragon 600, and sleeker form factor.

Given the number of users who are enamored to a single platform -- primarily either Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android or Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) iOS, Nokia may have a tough time convincing the "zombies" (as it dubs fans of rival platforms) to embrace Windows Phone, particularly given the phone's hardware shortcomings.

Apple vs Samsung
Many users are too in love with either Apple or Android to consider a Lumia.
[Image Source: PhoneBuff]

On the flip side of the coin, Nokia may be able to drive sales by offering something no one else in the market really is.  Other flagship devices are basically all shots at being a "jack of all trades", with the primary focus being the hardware features (screen, processor, etc.).  

By contrast the Nokia device aims to be in a league of its own in one of the most common areas of smartphone use -- mobile photography -- while maintaining passable hardware that equates to a last-generation iPhone or Android flagship device.

Thus when it comes to the Lumia 1020, beauty will truly be in the eye of the beholder.

Sources: Nokia [1], [2; PDF]



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Your list of bads are bad
By nav111 on 7/11/2013 5:34:06 PM , Rating: 3
I'll agree with the weight of phone being on the heavy side and thickness. The screen resolution is good for 4.5inch display. The processor being a generation old does not make windows phone 8 slower, it runs smoother than any other android phones out there.




RE: Your list of bads are bad
By JasonMick (blog) on 7/11/2013 5:45:08 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The processor being a generation old does not make windows phone 8 slower, it runs smoother than any other android phones out there.
Yes, but last generation's processors are less power efficient. Exactly how much this impacts the battery life remains to be seen, but you can't just dismiss it, particularly when the Lumia series has been on the moderately poor end in terms of battery life (trust me, I own one and know).
quote:
The screen resolution is good for 4.5inch display.
Maybe last generation's flagships or this gen.'s mid-range, but not compared to other flagships.

GSIV: 441 ppi (AMOLED)
One: 468 ppi (SUPER LCD 3)
Optimus G Pro: 400 ppi (True HD IPS LCD)
Xperia Z: 440 ppi (Bravia TFT LCD)
iPhone 5: 326 ppi (IPS TFT LCD)
Lumia 1020: 332 ppi (AMOLED)

Clearly the iPhone 5 and Lumia 1020 are the weaklings of the bunch...

I get if you're willing to settle for mid-range quality, but don't claim silver is gold.

As I said, the camera makes the phone worth buying. Some other parts of the spec are good, but not game changing, others are clearly a step behind the competition. All in all though, I'm seriously considering the phone STILL for my own use given the camera quality.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By stephenBA on 7/11/2013 5:54:32 PM , Rating: 3
I agree it would be nice to have higher res display. BUt come on, have you ever used a windows phone 8 device? They are incredibly fast. Never once have I ever wished I had a faster processor. Its much faster than any other device I've ever used... and I have used many.

I'm not settling for mid range quality. I'm telling you the processor is fine considering the phone is GOLD compared to everyone elses SILVER speed.

As for battery life, no. I disagree. Go read any of the reviews over the past few years from Anandtech. The newest mobile CPUs do sip less power... but hardly. They mostly just go faster and have higher dynamic range. AKA, use it more and the battery drains faster. Older CPUs use just about the same amount of power if they are doing the same amount of work. Subjectively, I've never had a battery issue with my 920. I can use it for multiple days.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By ClownPuncher on 7/11/2013 6:04:10 PM , Rating: 3
Meh, WP8 is a better OS than Android. People don't care much about specs, or they wouldn't still be in love with their iPhone 5 or GS3.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/12/2013 1:27:43 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
People don't care much about specs


Well then you're in trouble. Because camera specs are pretty much the only reason anyone would even look at this phone. It laggs in every other subjective category!

quote:
WP8 is a better OS than Android.


That's your opinion. But as a response to Jason's reply, it's lacking in reasoning.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By themaster08 on 7/12/2013 3:45:10 AM , Rating: 1
I'll admit, I was kinda hoping for a quad-core processor in this thing, but to say it lags in every other subject category is just an outright lie.

Best camera of any phone - without any doubt.

It has a large battery, in-line with its competitors.

It has 2GB RAM to power that huge camera. Again, in line with its competitors.

Screen quality on the Lumia is outstanding, regardless of its resolution. Is the average Joe ever going to notice the difference in quality on this screen over, say, the S4? Pixel density may not match that of some of the high-end Android phones, but so what? I can't see a single reason why that would hinder the Lumia. What applications are you running on our phone that are taking full benefit of that resolution? It's nothing more than a paper spec to masturbate over, and a battery drain. it's the new version of the megahertz war.

What does it not have that you need so much?


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By cyberguyz on 7/12/2013 7:48:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Best camera of any phone - without any doubt.


Camera is good for a phone. It is still beat by mid-level any decent good quality camera (please do not point at 41MPix -- that is Nokia's marketing joke on everyone) in regards to glass and 1/1.2 sensor size. The phone part of the package is mediocre at best.

quote:
It has a large battery, in-line with its competitors.


You call 2000 mAh large? lol. If you are trying to power that camera and xenon flash, you had better have that much or better. As it stands this phone will eat that battery in no time flat.

quote:
2GB RAM to power that huge camera. Again, in line with its competitors.


2GB is the norm on top line phones today. If you have less you are a second-line phone. But that 2GB internal ram memory will have very little bearing on the camera usage beyond buffer space for a continuous shooting.

Keep in mind this phone has no expandable SDCard storage. If you are buying this phone primarily for its camera (the only people that would IMHO) and shooting tons of 41 mp pictures with it, you will be feeling the space of even 32GB internal storage really, really tight.

Here are some things you need to know about that phone+camera combo.

It uses a last gen Krait S4 dual core. When you are shooting 41 mpix snapshots, it will be that processor that has to process and move all that data from memory to your storage. The faster the processor, the faster that happens. This one ain't all that fast.

it is a decent camera phone, but for $600, you can do better by buying a last gen phone for about $300 and using the rest to get a dedicated top end P&S camera.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By themaster08 on 7/12/2013 8:25:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Camera is good for a phone. It is still beat by mid-level any decent good quality camera (please do not point at 41MPix -- that is Nokia's marketing joke on everyone) in regards to glass and 1/1.2 sensor size. The phone part of the package is mediocre at best.
I understand that it's a marketing gimmick, but its oversampling of 5 megapixel shots will no doubt make the photos look fantastic. Just look at the PureView 808 camera shots.

quote:
You call 2000 mAh large? lol. If you are trying to power that camera and xenon flash, you had better have that much or better. As it stands this phone will eat that battery in no time flat.
Who spends 2 hours taking photos, especially on a phone? Usually they're just quick shots, which will have little impact on battery life. The Xenon flash is on for milliseconds. The battery is a good size considering the specifications and screen size. There is also an accessory with an additional battery in it for this phone if you use the camera a lot more.

quote:
2GB is the norm on top line phones today. If you have less you are a second-line phone. But that 2GB internal ram memory will have very little bearing on the camera usage beyond buffer space for a continuous shooting.
Therefore the RAM is for the camera. Have you ever used Windows Phone? It runs butter smooth, even on a paltry 512MB RAM.

quote:
Keep in mind this phone has no expandable SDCard storage. If you are buying this phone primarily for its camera (the only people that would IMHO) and shooting tons of 41 mp pictures with it, you will be feeling the space of even 32GB internal storage really, really tight.
Perhaps. You can always set the images to upload to SkyDrive. You can set this to do it only on WiFi as well, so it doesn't eat into your data.

quote:
It uses a last gen Krait S4 dual core. When you are shooting 41 mpix snapshots, it will be that processor that has to process and move all that data from memory to your storage. The faster the processor, the faster that happens. This one ain't all that fast.
The PureView 808 seems to pull it off with weaker specs, although I did think that they would put a quad core in this.

quote:
it is a decent camera phone, but for $600, you can do better by buying a last gen phone for about $300 and using the rest to get a dedicated top end P&S camera.
It depends on your preference. I personally prefer to carry one device with me.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By icanhascpu on 7/18/2013 4:00:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Who spends 2 hours taking photos, especially on a phone?


The same morons that bought it because of 41 MP.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By themaster08 on 7/12/2013 8:25:35 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Camera is good for a phone. It is still beat by mid-level any decent good quality camera (please do not point at 41MPix -- that is Nokia's marketing joke on everyone) in regards to glass and 1/1.2 sensor size. The phone part of the package is mediocre at best.
I understand that it's a marketing gimmick, but its oversampling of 5 megapixel shots will no doubt make the photos look fantastic. Just look at the PureView 808 camera shots.

quote:
You call 2000 mAh large? lol. If you are trying to power that camera and xenon flash, you had better have that much or better. As it stands this phone will eat that battery in no time flat.
Who spends 2 hours taking photos, especially on a phone? Usually they're just quick shots, which will have little impact on battery life. The Xenon flash is on for milliseconds. The battery is a good size considering the specifications and screen size. There is also an accessory with an additional battery in it for this phone if you use the camera a lot more.

quote:
2GB is the norm on top line phones today. If you have less you are a second-line phone. But that 2GB internal ram memory will have very little bearing on the camera usage beyond buffer space for a continuous shooting.
Therefore the RAM is for the camera. Have you ever used Windows Phone? It runs butter smooth, even on a paltry 512MB RAM.

quote:
Keep in mind this phone has no expandable SDCard storage. If you are buying this phone primarily for its camera (the only people that would IMHO) and shooting tons of 41 mp pictures with it, you will be feeling the space of even 32GB internal storage really, really tight.
Perhaps. You can always set the images to upload to SkyDrive. You can set this to do it only on WiFi as well, so it doesn't eat into your data.

quote:
It uses a last gen Krait S4 dual core. When you are shooting 41 mpix snapshots, it will be that processor that has to process and move all that data from memory to your storage. The faster the processor, the faster that happens. This one ain't all that fast.
The PureView 808 seems to pull it off with weaker specs, although I did think that they would put a quad core in this.

quote:
it is a decent camera phone, but for $600, you can do better by buying a last gen phone for about $300 and using the rest to get a dedicated top end P&S camera.
It depends on your preference. I personally prefer to carry one device with me.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By nav111 on 7/12/2013 10:54:44 AM , Rating: 2
I dont think you understand the point of a 41Mpix, its not a markteing joke. its called spatial averaging to a lower megapixel and theortically you reduce noise..
2GB is the norm for android phones not Windows Phone OS.
Stop comparing hardware specs of two different OS phones, rather compare the features they are bringing to the market.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By ClownPuncher on 7/12/2013 11:58:20 AM , Rating: 2
People don't care about the camera specs. They care that it is "better".

WP8 is a better OS than Android. Easy to manage on the back end, snappier, less prone to crashing and definitely doesn't have a fragmentation issue. It's also very functional and well designed.

The vast majority of consumers don't give a crap about tech specs, nor do they understand what those specs mean. If something feels faster to use, in their minds, it is faster.

So, what we have with this phone is something that takes better pictures and feels just as fast as anything else on the market. The only thing that stands out as a negative to your average customer is the lower screen ppi.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/12/2013 7:00:14 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
WP8 is a better OS than Android.


That's your opinion. Frankly to claim an OS is "better" that doesn't even have access to Google apps in 2013, and is starving for app development, is an absurd suggestion.

quote:
definitely doesn't have a fragmentation issue.


Right unless you bought a Windows Phone 7.5 device. In which case you got fucked up the ass. But that's somehow not "fragmentation" in the WP crowds eyes...

quote:
less prone to crashing


Wow apparently Windows Phone fanbois are the new Apple fanbois...

"our stuff doesn't crash or get viruses or have any issues whatsoever about anything ever ever".

Almost everything on your list is subjective opinion or nonsense.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By themaster08 on 7/14/2013 4:24:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Frankly to claim an OS is "better" that doesn't even have access to Google apps in 2013, and is starving for app development, is an absurd suggestion.
That's also your opinion. The only Google apps I personally use are Chrome, search and Youtube, 2 of which are available on Windows Phone. I personally care little for Google apps beyond these 3 things. Mobile IE runs better on my budget Lumia 520 than I've seen the Chrome app run on most high-end Android devices.

As for apps, everything that I personally require is readily available on Windows Phone, but that's just me. I understand your point regarding lack of apps.

I use my 25 GB of SkyDrive storage which integrates straight into the phone, such as the Office app and photos, and works perfectly.

I use Nokia's HERE apps for transport and location services (which in my opinion are FAR superior to Google's).

I use mobile, web-based, and Office 2013 on my PC, which wipes the floor with Google's alternatives.

I use Outlook.com for email services which is vastly improved over Windows Live/Hotmail.

quote:

Wow apparently Windows Phone fanbois are the new Apple fanbois...

"our stuff doesn't crash or get viruses or have any issues whatsoever about anything ever ever".

Almost everything on your list is subjective opinion or nonsense.

As your usual style, you exacerbate the point to make it look in your favour. You're clearly referring to other Microsoft products, which nobody mentioned, only Windows Phone, so let's try to stick to the point at hand, shall we?
If you've ever used Windows Phone (which you clearly haven't other than perhaps a 2 minute demo at a store) you would know it is an extremely stable OS, and far less prone to app and OS crashing than Android. You see, some of us actually use devices from all the main competitors in the mobile space. You could perhaps do this too and open your mind a little, instead of seeming like a raged teen.

Why are your posts always so hostile when someone has a differing opinion to yourself? Do you have some sort of superiority complex? Are you not getting enough? Or is it that you're just an elitist and everyone else's opinion counts for nothing?


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By themaster08 on 7/14/2013 4:24:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Frankly to claim an OS is "better" that doesn't even have access to Google apps in 2013, and is starving for app development, is an absurd suggestion.
That's also your opinion. The only Google apps I personally use are Chrome, search and Youtube, 2 of which are available on Windows Phone. I personally care little for Google apps beyond these 3 things. Mobile IE runs better on my budget Lumia 520 than I've seen the Chrome app run on most high-end Android devices.

As for apps, everything that I personally require is readily available on Windows Phone, but that's just me. I understand your point regarding lack of apps.

I use my 25 GB of SkyDrive storage which integrates straight into the phone, such as the Office app and photos, and works perfectly.

I use Nokia's HERE apps for transport and location services (which in my opinion are FAR superior to Google's).

I use mobile, web-based, and Office 2013 on my PC, which wipes the floor with Google's alternatives.

I use Outlook.com for email services which is vastly improved over Windows Live/Hotmail.

quote:

Wow apparently Windows Phone fanbois are the new Apple fanbois...

"our stuff doesn't crash or get viruses or have any issues whatsoever about anything ever ever".

Almost everything on your list is subjective opinion or nonsense.

As your usual style, you exacerbate the point to make it look in your favour. You're clearly referring to other Microsoft products, which nobody mentioned, only Windows Phone, so let's try to stick to the point at hand, shall we?
If you've ever used Windows Phone (which you clearly haven't other than perhaps a 2 minute demo at a store) you would know it is an extremely stable OS, and far less prone to app and OS crashing than Android. You see, some of us actually use devices from all the main competitors in the mobile space. You could perhaps do this too and open your mind a little, instead of seeming like a raged teen.

Why are your posts always so hostile when someone has a differing opinion to yourself? Do you have some sort of superiority complex? Are you not getting enough? Or is it that you're just an elitist and everyone else's opinion counts for nothing?


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By ClownPuncher on 7/15/2013 2:04:45 PM , Rating: 2
Go use one and tell me what you think.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By vignyan on 7/11/2013 7:58:20 PM , Rating: 2
Wait - Are you saying that you can tell the difference between 332ppi and 441ppi? I am impressed with your sight. /sarcasm (sorry!)

I think the phone is designed to the spec and what are you talking about older generation processor? It still has a krait core in the Snapdragon S4 (since it is 1.5GHz) should be either a plus or a pro. Also I should add - on a 28nm tech. May be the new DSP may lower the power, but I think Nokia would have done some due diligence on their part while designing their flagship phone.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By radium69 on 7/12/2013 7:13:42 AM , Rating: 3
And what about AMOLED screen with superior contrast and readability in sunlight with clearblack.

It's marked as a bad but it is actually AHEAD of the competition.

I know because I have used one in bright light conditions.

Jason Mick is a spec-lover and does not care about actual usage scenarios and the product as a whole.
Else, he would have known that the screen automatically goes into "superbright" when outside.

The only BAD is the lack of MicroSD.
It is not justified in any way!

Still there a lot of extras on a Lumia such as free lifetime GLOBAL navigation on the 720-820-920-1020
With offline maps etc.

Article is just to start a flamewar or cause commotion about "inferrior" specs and brands etc.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By Paj on 7/12/2013 8:00:29 AM , Rating: 2
PPI is the latest meaningless arms race stat. Anything above about 350ppi is generally pointless as the human eye cant really perceive the level of detail, and more pixels places extra burdens on the battery and processor.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By Mint on 7/12/2013 4:26:55 PM , Rating: 2
People can see the difference, but to me it's has a very marginal benefit. I have a Galaxy Note 2, and I'll take its 720p screen with AMOLED blacks over any 1080p LCD screen. Nokia's Clearblack is even better.

I would love to see this camera make its way into the Note 3 or Nokia's version of one. I'm hooked on the stylus.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By Reclaimer77 on 7/12/13, Rating: -1
RE: Your list of bads are bad
By chripuck on 7/12/2013 10:56:12 AM , Rating: 3
Pray tell what else do I need a faster processor for then?

Last I checked a game like Infinity Blade runs just fine on my wife's crappy iPhone 4 with it's single core A4 processor. If the UI is smooth and games of Infinity Blade caliber run smooth on that processor who cares if it's latest gen (hint: no one but a subsection of the readers of Engadget/Verge/Ars/DT etc.)

You can make the same argument about the 41mp camera on this phone to and I'd acquiesce to that point, but don't perpetuate the stupidity of higher specs = better phone.


RE: Your list of bads are bad
By nav111 on 7/12/2013 11:01:09 AM , Rating: 2
No, Newer phones doesnt need the latest hardware. they need hardware good enough to provide you with the information you are seeking for in a competetive amount of time.


Camera emphasis without external storage?
By Concillian on 7/11/2013 6:47:40 PM , Rating: 1
Really? no external storage? On a "camera first / phone second" phone? Ever seen a serious camera that didn't have external storage?

I actually think the hardware specs are fine. How many REALLY uses an S8 to full capability? It's part of the reason that the smartphone market is slowing down. A decent speed dual core iphone 4 / GS2 / GS3 is "fast enough" that people don't feel a need for more speed. As for me, I'm still making due with a single core HTC Evo4G. Not the best, but it works. A pretty insignificant part of the market is rushing out for the latest phone CPU / RAM / screen combo. The midrange hardware makes the additional camera features affordable.

The bottom line is that these won't sell for $300 subsidized. Period. I think AT&T is testing the waters on that $300 price point, and they'll be quick to drop the subsidized price when these don't sell. The smartphone market is slow. Anything priced like this is going to move VERY slowly.




RE: Camera emphasis without external storage?
By TDMoses on 7/12/2013 12:07:46 AM , Rating: 2
Most cameras don't connect to cloud storage. Music is one thing, but pictures auto upload to Skydrive (which is far superior to google docs if you haven't tried it). Plus all your pictures on Skydrive auto sync to your phone anyways. So even if you deleted it from your phone's memory, it is still pseudo there. So you don't need an SD for photos.

The other argument would be that most people don't have larger than a 32gb card in their camera because they sync there photos to their computer often enough to not need the space.


By icanhascpu on 7/18/2013 4:03:21 AM , Rating: 1
Because everyone has access to skydrive at all times or wants to even use that feature. What a shitty excuse.


Spec Typo
By DaveTheDave on 7/11/2013 5:37:17 PM , Rating: 2
You have the zoom factors crossed for the video recording. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to zoom in more when recording 1080p versus 720p.




Yikes
By icanhascpu on 7/18/2013 3:58:40 AM , Rating: 2
41MP. No manner of tinyass glass magic is going to matter when most of that will be noise anyway. What rubbish.




Android is still slower
By greenchinesepuck on 7/11/13, Rating: -1
"If you look at the last five years, if you look at what major innovations have occurred in computing technology, every single one of them came from AMD. Not a single innovation came from Intel." -- AMD CEO Hector Ruiz in 2007














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